Purple haired shouju tomboy straight out of a miyazaki movie and various folktales aspiring to be a pirate kunoichi who can control beasts!
I just had to.
Tama > Carrot
Tama for Cabin Girl would be more interesting.
You´re going into directions of role, personality and goals.
Which wouldve been more relevant if Carrot was a three-eyes, a ninja or a CD.
but not, she had to be a transforming humanoid animal, and you want to act as if this wasn't in the crew already. that's really really really faith that you got there.
I see the animal theme similarity it's not enough to dismiss the possibility Carrot could be made a member, it also doesn't prove she won't be.
It's a pointless argument and opinion that you think solid ground of her not getting in is having two furry characters.
Your Transforming opinion is pretty thoughtless too. Luffy has all these gear transformations, Sanji transforms into a germa suit, Zoro transforms into Asura, Franky is a literal transformer. I think this opinion is starting to make Carrot fit in with her Sulong transform now lmao. Could it be you actually want furries uwuuu stop trying to justify her getting into the crew dudeee
blue animal person
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You're whole reply is mistaken, I'm not talking about designs. but about concept.
Samurais, other fishmen, cooks, musicians, robots, furries. all covered.
Implying Chopper's and Carrot's only concept is being a furry. Must be the most interesting thing to you about them, what Beastar's character do you have on your Dakimakura?
I've been around this block. Carrot "has had one line of dialogue in the last year" ain't joining.
I hope you're correct, I'd rather see her as a relegated character. I just find this super suspect that she was introduced so forcibly and has no presence on Wano yet… Could be a mismanaged character but arcs not over yet, just like how popular opinion swayed from Paulie to Franky due to arc progression.
Also I think I remember you used to have a crazy husky avatar, what happened to that?
I'll by that thing that Carrot is the ace under Oda's sleeve after we see the minks and she's not with them. By now, we can say she's just like Cockycent says Paulie was, a character who is there just to be the voice of their group.
I'm interested to see how her absence is dealt with, hope its intentional.
I definitely agree with you and Cockycent about the Paulie similarity.
It feels similar in that a lot of the audience is led to believe Carrot fits as a potential crewmember since her stowaway from Zou. Especially with how during Water 7 we were explicitly looking for a Shipwright so the intro and fleshing of Paulie was meant to make the audience think he was fitting but was a red herring to distract from Franky.
Also the Carrot = Pirate Disciple sounds a lot like a Cabin girl
As long as Carrot is a humanoid furry that transforms.. and as long as that's already covered within the crew, she and every other Mink are out the question.
Doesn't matter what animal she's based of, her concept its already in.
Sorry this is not solid ground evidence at all.
Just your subjective opinion on the character designs being similar which I subjectively disagree with.
Not even one of Chopper's forms is similar to Carrot. I would love to rule out Carrot visually but it just isn't happening. The only similarity you reach for is fur and animal inspired.
I don't think that's enough to stop her from being included. Sulong = Werewolf, its quite different from the Human Zoan awakened drug induced transformations Chopper does.
The character designs are very different in race, size, shape, gender, role, silhouette, height etc. They both also assist each other as characters with the Bropper dynamic as seen from their interactions. My job is character/concept design so It's just my opinion but it is also informed from experience. I don't think Carrot and Chopper's designs cancel each other out otherwise she wouldn't have even left Zou. If anything Minks seem to be quite important and there is no mink in the crew.
Trust me I don't want another furry character on the crew, but I still don't agree with your point at all even though I want to dismiss Carrot as a member.
Shachi and Penguin are almost carbon copies, that doesn't stop them from being central characters on a crew too. Too big of a stretch for me.
Also as all the other people in the forum posted it's obvious you are just hating the furry meme. I understand disliking it but it's clouding any logic you have for reasons she might actually be in.
Except there is, its called Chopper.
Oh yes I forgot Chopper the sulong using, female, minkman, electro user, bunny inspired, non devil fruit user. They are practically the same character…
Seriously though do explain further, I'm interested in your logic.
Not being important since they entered Wano is a solid ground to say she's not joining.
This is very suspect, Her disappearance is a red flag for sure. It feels intentional, but if it's not that's some real character mishandling.
It feels too early still to judge this, it's like being upset like the villagers that Oden started dancing like a fool when there is obviously context that's been omitted.
Thing is, according to 20 years of serliaziation. Things are already planned.
There's no most popular or most logical ground here, if she's not intended to join, she will not. Doesn't really matter if you want to stay in the 'But why would Oda bubble'.
We've seen it with Perona, Shirahoshi, Hancock, Rebecca. People got overly obsessed with whatever their participation in their arcs was and stretch it into 'Strawhat material' with no solid ground for any of them, and as of now, there's no solid ground for Carrot either.
Regardless of if she joins or not, I don't really care.
Just as of right now it seems that the story is pushing her as a Strawhat member or an honorary one like Vivi by including her for so long. That is the logic for me. It could easily be subverted of course.
There's no solid ground for Carrot joining, but there is no solid ground for her not joining. I just see lots more flags leading to her being more than a relegated side character than not. Especially how well she fits visually into the diversity of the Strawhats lineup.
Also about the 20 years of serialization, of course there are many plot points set in stone to make the long term storytelling hit harder and smarter. We must be reading different stories though if you haven't recognized how much unplanned improvisation goes into it as well to reach those plot points.
Examples like stating the One Piece and ending will be changed if it's guessed too early and Zoro originally going to be in Buggy's crew.
Either way I don't like Carrot, but being unbiased I still feel that she adds more to the Strawhats than she detracts and if it's in the cards for her to be a member it will probably work well.
If she's not, I'd rather that as I would rather see other Strawhats get more spotlight and fleshing out, but so far she feels more integrated than the princess side characters who have too much responsibility to join the crew.
Also lol at Perona as Strawhat. Waifu warriors do like to reach.
Gonna preface by saying I don't like Carrot at all. Feels too forced, however…
Carrot is by far the most logical choice right now. Subverting and red herring her like Paulie, or being a temporary member like Vivi would just feel lazy and repeated.
Anyone extremely against it is really grasping at straws and having to ignore a lot of her spotlight time probably from bias of disliking her.
Lots of people say she has to fill a role.
She doesn't need a specific role as an inexperienced Cabin boy(girl) was always a role I felt the crew would eventually have.
Chopper doesn't exactly fill this slot as he is Doctor, Older (17) and somewhat experienced now.
Carrot so far has the highest probability aside from Jinbei, but there's room for both. The story can always go in any direction of course that's the fun.
Not gonna list obvious examples as I'm sure this dead horse has been beaten. (Pedro relationship, Sulong intro,
Rather list my main points against her. 1.) No proper fleshed backstory, 2.) no main dream or goal, 3.) lack of use in Wano currently
All 3 don't feel like enough to deter her chances so far.
Backstory flashback can happen at any pivotal moment for her (Senor Pink), Main dream or goal was Pedro telling her Straw hats would bring Dawn of the World(seems quite important to her and pedro), The less she is used in Wano the more suspicious I am of her.
I don't really care either way if she's a Straw hat or not. I just want to enjoy the ride. Hope something interesting develops with her.
So Pedro mirrors Sanji quite a bit on that cover spread and also was saying he's a good guy without much interaction. Visually he has been given too much attention, I think Carrot is also somehow related since they all have blonde hair. I also think the full moon makes people who stay on Zou long enough become "Were-men" whereas people born on the island are "Mink-men" also a nice origin spot for Zoan devil fruits to be reverse engineered. Whatever just throwing out ideas, don't attack me…