I have a little confusion about haki. In case, luffy punch akainu with haki when akainu is in magma mode, is luffy being melted by magma, or luffy can hurt akainu's real body instead? We know that rayleigh can hold kizaru, but light power isn't that harmless when being touched.
General 'Haki' Discussion
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I have a little confusion about haki. In case, luffy punch akainu with haki when akainu is in magma mode, is luffy being melted by magma, or luffy can hurt akainu's real body instead? We know that rayleigh can hold kizaru, but light power isn't that harmless when being touched.
CoA is an armor. It will protect Luffy from the magma.
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So luffy can hold real magma too?
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So luffy can hold real magma too?
or it just limited for magma from devil fruit?Armament haki gives the ability to protect yourself from any type of element (the only exeption is Water) and decrease the damage you can receive from an attack
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Armament haki gives the ability to protect yourself from any type of element (the only exeption is Water) and decrease the damage you can receive from an attack
Seriously? any link? (in the 'protect from element' part)
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I have a little confusion about haki. In case, luffy punch akainu with haki when akainu is in magma mode, is luffy being melted by magma, or luffy can hurt akainu's real body instead? We know that rayleigh can hold kizaru, but light power isn't that harmless when being touched.
it will cancel the logia transformation (magma) in the area that being punched with haki…
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I have a little confusion about haki. In case, luffy punch akainu with haki when akainu is in magma mode, is luffy being melted by magma, or luffy can hurt akainu's real body instead? We know that rayleigh can hold kizaru, but light power isn't that harmless when being touched.
Luffy's fist/attack would negate Akainu's ability but not neccessarily hurt Akainu's real body since he would defend himself with his own CoA.
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I know that but I thought cuz of this Sanji would be leaning mroe into CoA instead of CoO as Marigold
Its natural that Sanjis CoO evolved most- for two years he was trying to run from/ not get detected/ sense before they appear- Okamas :P
His biggest fear in this world
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Seriously? any link? (in the 'protect from element' part)
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-49210-12/one-piece/chapter-579.html
I think this is the best example of it.
Unless it's made of the strongest steel ever created , Shanks' sword should have melted.
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Luffy's fist/attack would negate Akainu's ability but not neccessarily hurt Akainu's real body since he would defend himself with his own CoA.
Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. Haki does not negate a a devil fruit. To logia it helps you hit and hurt the element of that person, but if your haki is not strong enough Akainu magma will melt/burn you and your haki just like Law cut Tashigi and her haki(her haki wasn't strong enough).
Big MoM ate - 2012
CC for nakama.
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Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. Haki does not negate a a devil fruit. To logia it helps you hit and hurt the element of that person, but if your haki is not strong enough Akainu magma will melt/burn you and your haki just like Law cut Tashigi and her haki(her haki wasn't strong enough).
I should have used bypass instead of negate… And I didn't say if your haki is too weak Akainu's magma wouldn't burn you.
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Dominating spirit energy.
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I always believe that you were born with Coc. The biggest reason being that Whitebeard don't have a big and neither does he want to be king or chief of anything but he have haki nonetheles while people like Crocodile don't possess it. But since the batoto site doesn't say such a thing and MK arguments I'm starting to have some doubt.
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I always believe that you were born with Coc. The biggest reason being that Whitebeard don't have a big and neither does he want to be king or chief of anything but he have haki nonetheles while people like Crocodile don't possess it. But since the batoto site doesn't say such a thing and MK arguments I'm starting to have some doubt.
You don't have to go after the One Piece in order to have big ambitions, he always wanted a family and he's ambitions to have were so big that it set him apart and gave him a place as a Conqueror user also I still think that you can be born with any type of Haki but you can also awake it through time, we have two people who were born with Observation and yet we don't know If Arlong sister was also born with it (If is a form of Observation) and we haven't seen anyone be born with Armament yet, just a guy with a really hard body
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I always believe that you were born with Coc. The biggest reason being that Whitebeard don't have a big and neither does he want to be king or chief of anything but he have haki nonetheles while people like Crocodile don't possess it. But since the batoto site doesn't say such a thing and MK arguments I'm starting to have some doubt.
I believe that the biggest factor to be considered for an individual to attain CoC is not how grand one's ambitions are but rather, how determined/resolute, etc. a person is.
It has more to do with actual willpower than the ambition/goal.
Hancock's a good example for this. She has no explicitly stated goal/ambition, much less a grand one at that, yet she has CoC.
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@Gol:
I believe that the biggest factor to be considered for an individual to attain CoC is not how grand one's ambitions are but rather, how determined/resolute, etc. a person is.
It has more to do with actual willpower than the ambition/goal.
Hancock's a good example for this. She has no explicitly stated goal/ambition, much less a grand one at that, yet she has CoC.
The thing is people keep taking those guys as examples (Hancock, Rayleigh, WB) but they already accomplished what they wanted to accomplish and what they were fighting for before, so it doesn't really help in comparing those guys and asking why do they posses Conqueror If they are just some lazy people
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The thing is people keep taking those guys as examples (Hancock, Rayleigh, WB) but they already accomplished what they wanted to accomplish and what they were fighting for before, so it doesn't really help in comparing those guys and asking why do they posses Conqueror If they are just some lazy people
I used Hancock as an example because I'm trying to make a point that attaining CoC isn't exclusively dependent on having seemingly impossible dreams (by OP commoners' standards) but also having innately incredible amount of willpower.
Whitebeard's real ambition was to have a family. Not something that requires him to be a king and certainly not an impossible to attain at that. He didn't have the grand ambition Roger had (Or Luffy has for that matter) what he had was tremendous willpower.
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You remember that one time or to some every time you wake up and don't feel like doing anything but just lay there and watch TV all day? But somehow you gain the confidence to standup and go to school or work, that confidence is HAKI, your ambition to go to work or school was stronger than that to stay and watch tv all day.
But this is rare now, most teenagers now don't have that confidence to do that by themselves, either someone in their family will force em to get out of the house or a friend will bother them to do so. This means 80% of teenagers now don't have strong enough ambition which in turn makes their HAKI weak compared to a veteran like me, which leads to only 1 in a million having it.
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@wolfwoof:
Just a thought. But what happens if you attack a user with haki who uses his own haki to counter-attack the effect. Like when Vista slashed Akainu in the throat, he commented on how annoying haki users are. But visually it looked just like when anyone else slashed him. Sure didn't look like he hit his true body or what you want to call it.
@CCC:
I always filled in the blanks there as "Damn Haki users… [they're really annoying because I have to make an effort to defend with my own haki, which I just did, if I don't want to actually get hurt]." Or "I can still reform because I defended with my own haki, but this cut still stings a little more given that Vista is a haki user. Yowchies." Something like that.
Chiming in just to say my thoughts are the same as CCC's.
Now in actuallity i dont know if it would be that simple because that would seem to render the diamond fruit pretty useless against a haki user, and Oda might not want that.
See above. If two equally skilled haki users fight each other, then they'd be cancelling each other out so to speak, leaving the Devil Fruit body to handle the rest of the attack.
Where I do disagree with you is on the "Breath of all things" and cutting Das and or steel. I believe that Zoro gained a perception ability that lets him cut steel. However, he is only able to cut steel because his swordsmanship/physical ability/sword are of a high enough quality to allow it. I think we can all agree that Zoro is not currently at a level that can cut diamond. So this would mean that although he can cut Jozu, because he has a DF, he cant cut a real diamond.
I [suggested] that swordsmen use/create techniques that have their own unique application or manifestation of haki. It's less about forcing haki into the equation and more about Oda tying things together, which he does frequently. Like some of CP9's forms, for example. Or Mantra. At this point a 'technique' that cuts metal but not a logia is obsolete because for the purpose of the narrative it's the latter that is a problem, not the former. Make sense?
At this point I think we've both made our arguments and there's little more to discuss, particularly given the lack of conclusive evidence from the manga. To be clear, most of my position revolves around keeping the mechanics of the story simple and connected, as Oda has done throughout the story.
To your last point yeah, seastone is harder than diamond, and more likely to be seen in a fight where cutting it would mean something.
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@CCC:
Haki doesn't nullify anything… we literally had the walking textbook Nico Robin take several sentences to explain that to us.
It doesn't make logias tangible (i.e. it's not like Luffy could grab CC with haki and then have Nami run over and slap him in the face because all of a sudden he's not gas). It just makes the user's fist/sword able to cause pain to the logia even though it's just striking vapor/grains of sand/an electric current, which are still distinctly those very things.
So tell me if this is correct
when someone strikes jozu with haki, the person will be striking the diamond,but the diamond will not have its indestructable quality allowing jozu's original body to be cut. -
It's an air waves/pressure/cut attack, if it can be imbued with haki, then it will ruin the power scale in One Piece
Because if he did, then we have to accept a haki version of "KAMEHAMEHA"i dunno where you get that idea of "kamehameha", and that it somehow would ruin the power scale in OP.
Maybe the slash did had haki imbued and jozu also used haki to protect(reflect the attack) himself?
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i dunno where you get that idea of "kamehameha", and that it somehow would ruin the power scale in OP.
Maybe the slash did had haki imbued and jozu also used haki to protect(reflect the attack) himself?
Don't tell me you don't mind seeing Luffy and all others haki user throwing/shooting a haki energy ball? because it will be fundamentally similar with what you're expecting. Mihawk's slash waves = he releases a haki energy attack.
And then Luffy will just sit quietly and let Zoro finish all their problem, and Zoro even doesn't have to leave the ship. He just have to shoot the beam of haki from their ship to kill the DF user enemies… and you said that will not ruin the power scale.That's why a haki energy releases have to envelop something solid. Just like Rayleigh's explanation, it can imbued into weapon.
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So tell me if this is correct
when someone strikes jozu with haki, the person will be striking the diamond,but the diamond will not have its indestructable quality allowing jozu's original body to be cut.Strictly speaking, he would be cutting diamond. If he cuts through it then he will cutting Jozu, who is made of diamond. And Jozu is not a Logia, he's a Paramecia.
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Don't tell me you don't mind seeing Luffy and all others haki user throwing/shooting a haki energy ball? because it will be fundamentally similar with what you're expecting. Mihawk's slash waves = he releases a haki energy attack.
And then Luffy will just sit quietly and let Zoro finish all their problem, and Zoro even doesn't have to leave the ship. He just have to shoot the beam of haki from their ship to kill the DF user enemies… and you said that will not ruin the power scale.That's why a haki energy releases have to envelop something solid. Just like Rayleigh's explanation, it can imbued into weapon.
That is of course assuming three very unlikely things
1 that there is no way to block a haki infused attack
2 that no one is capable of dodging
3 that haki attacks somehow are able to instakill whoever it hits
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@wolfwoof:
That is of course assuming three very unlikely things
1 that there is no way to block a haki infused attack
2 that no one is capable of dodging
3 that haki attacks somehow are able to instakill whoever it hits
It will eliminate the DF speciality, and potentially create a over-powered character/battle
(imagine jinbe's karakusagawara attack imbued with haki)
1. if the target is a non haki df user
2. & 3. assuming Pekkom is Zoro and the attack wasn't shigan but haki imbued slash, and the target is Caribou… yeah, it's an instant kill -
No it won't. Long distance attacks are just a complement, just like Zoro's been using them up 'til now, nothing game breaking
In the new world there's not anyone worth his salt who's gonna just stand there and be target practice
They'll block, or avoid, and then come in close just like they've been doing so far
As for the Caribou comparison. Is your point that a vastly stronger character will KO the weaker one easily?
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It will eliminate the DF speciality, and potentially create a over-powered character/battle
1. if the target is a non haki df user
2. & 3. assuming Pekkom is Zoro and the attack wasn't shigan but haki imbued slash, and the target is Caribou… yeah, it's an instant killFirst you need to determine what's actually happening, then you can discuss whether or not it is overpowered. Margaret and the Amazon Lily inhabitants taught us that projectiles can have haki covering them or 'imbued' into them to provide reinforced strength plus destructive power, right? So what's happening is a "physical attack" (arrow) is being sent through the air with the given users' haki imbued into it. This much already exists, with proof.
The issue then is whether or not something like Zoro's 108 Pound Cannon is considered a physical attack or not. Given it's a shockwave or otherwise projectile sword slash that physically damages the opponent, it seems to qualify as an in-world "physical attack" no different than an arrow and should therefore be able to have haki imbued into it. We haven't seen it happen yet, however, so it's up to Oda whether or not it can actually happen. There is a difference between a tool like an arrow or a sword and a shockwave, after all.
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@wolfwoof:
No it won't. Long distance attacks are just a complement, just like Zoro's been using them up 'til now, nothing game breaking
In the new world there's not anyone worth his salt who's gonna just stand there and be target practice
They'll block, or avoid, and then come in close just like they've been doing so far
As for the Caribou comparison. Is your point that a vastly stronger character will KO the weaker one easily?
Potentially game breaking if the "haki energy realease" applied. Long distance fighting can happen too…
That's why we see Mihawk have to get close to Mr.1 (non haki user) so he can land a solid attack to hurt him. Or Smoker still need his fist launched to attack the target, not his smoke.They will block if they're a haki user, they don't have another option. How can they avoid Kizaru's Yasakani no Magatama if he imbued it with haki? or Mr.1 (if he's haki user) fingers attack. Haki energy realease will ruin potentially good battles.
For Caribou, Pekkom attack did a physical damage, while Zoro's long distance horizontal haki imbued slash will cut him in two.
First you need to determine what's actually happening, then you can discuss whether or not it is overpowered. Margaret and the Amazon Lily inhabitants taught us that projectiles can have haki covering them or 'imbued' into them to provide reinforced strength plus destructive power, right? So what's happening is a "physical attack" (arrow) is being sent through the air with the given users' haki imbued into it. This much already exists, with proof.
The issue then is whether or not something like Zoro's 108 Pound Cannon is considered a physical attack or not. Given it's a shockwave or otherwise projectile sword slash that physically damages the opponent, it seems to qualify as an in-world "physical attack" no different than an arrow and should therefore be able to have haki imbued into it. We haven't seen it happen yet, however, so it's up to Oda whether or not it can actually happen. There is a difference between a tool like an arrow or a sword and a shockwave, after all.
Well, we need that to be clear, otherwise we have to accept non solid haki imbued attack kamehameha type will be played by Oda
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I really think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Like when have you ever seen someone get sliced in half in this manga?
If haki is transferable like that it'll be just another part of fighting. Nobody is going to use it to OHKO someone they wouldn't already do that to.
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Um, Buggy? Duh.
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I know when i have been bested
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@wolfwoof:
I really think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Like when have you ever seen someone get sliced in half in this manga?
If haki is transferable like that it'll be just another part of fighting. Nobody is going to use it to OHKO someone they wouldn't already do that to.
It's never have but it doesn't mean can't be done, that's what i mean about overpower about "haki release energy".
But, like Brennen said, lets just hope it's a physical attack or not issue, not a "haki release energy" issue. -
No that's actually something i can guarantee that it an't ever gonna happen.
This ain't Berserk. Nobody is getting sliced open with their guts out in this manga
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Well first of all, according to Oda, a Logia's elemental attack is still part of their 'body,' so Kizaru's laser beams can be imbued with Armament because… putting it around your body is the first thing you learn to do. So questions about long range Logia Haki attacks are pointless. We have the answer. It's still their body, so their Haki is in it.
On a different note, being able to put Haki in ranged attacks changes nothing. They are the same attacks that you'd normally try to avoid or block. People with Observation will be better at avoiding or blocking, people with Armament will be better at tanking the hit. The big game changer with Haki is being able to hit Logia. Otherwise, Haki is a useful technique, but nothing that can't be over powered with raw muscle, skill or a Devil Fruit.
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@wolfwoof:
No that's actually something i can guarantee that it an't ever gonna happen.
This ain't Berserk. Nobody is getting sliced open with their guts out in this manga
Well, i said it can be done, not it will be done. (or the mistake was mine? …dang! english!)
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Don't tell me you don't mind seeing Luffy and all others haki user throwing/shooting a haki energy ball? because it will be fundamentally similar with what you're expecting. Mihawk's slash waves = he releases a haki energy attack.
And then Luffy will just sit quietly and let Zoro finish all their problem, and Zoro even doesn't have to leave the ship. He just have to shoot the beam of haki from their ship to kill the DF user enemies… and you said that will not ruin the power scale.That's why a haki energy releases have to envelop something solid. Just like Rayleigh's explanation, it can imbued into weapon.
did i say anything about throwing/shooting energyballs? who said mihawk slash exist soly out haki? when did i say this? all i said it was that its imbued with haki, meaning when he uses his air slash attack he adds haki to it for extra damage.
what did zoro do in this image?
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(1)did i say anything about throwing/shooting energyballs? (2) who said mihawk slash exist soly out haki? (3) when did i say this? (4) all i said it was that its imbued with haki, meaning when he uses his air slash attack he adds haki to it for extra damage.
1. Did i say that you were? I thought my post was clear that i was asking a question.
2. I did.
3. Don't ask me.
4. And that's the problem i'm point out, AIR, which is raise another question if it's a solid/physical attack or not, because there is a group of non solid element waiting in line like fire, water, smoke, light, etc. And that's where "kamehameha" idea came from. If AIR can be imbued with Haki, then there's a possibility a "Dragon Ball" type attacks will exist (energy ball/attack, long range fight, over power characters, last minute haki burst ala FT's nakama power)what did zoro do in this image?
! http://img.batoto.net/comics/2012/11/01/o/read5092982a2a575/img000012.png
A clarification for number 4. ?
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4. And that's the problem i'm point out, AIR, which is raise another question if it's a solid/physical attack or not, because there is a group of non solid element waiting in line like fire, water, smoke, light, etc. And that's where "kamehameha" idea came from. If AIR can be imbued with Haki, then there's a possibility a "Dragon Ball" type attacks will exist (energy ball/attack, long range fight, over power characters, last minute haki burst ala FT's nakama power)
How is an "energy" attack any different than an air attack like Rankyaku? (From the recipients perspective anyway)
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we were talking about the possibilty that mihawk's attack was imbued with haki. and he let his imagination go wild, that we gonna get like dragon ball type of attack/nakama powerup…
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How is an "energy" attack any different than an air attack like Rankyaku? (From the recipients perspective anyway)
Ryankaku? If it's no haki imbued, we can see varies of way to deal with it. From DF abilities to solid object (sword/shield).
"energy/haki" attack is a " who have the stronger haki" matter, it doesn't matter what kind of DF you have.
When haki introduced in manga, i feel like it's kinda a cheat way to reduce the DF complexity, but at least i can enjoy the closed combat/physical attack.
But now we have non solid/physical attack haki imbued is in question that can lead to long range fighting/finishing move. It can diminish the DF complexity/uniqueness.Right now, there's a chance we can have Luffy's "thanking Blueno" scene with Dofla
! Luffy: I'm glad i came to Dressrosa…
Dofla: ??
Luffy: KING PUNCH!!! (haki imbued)
:ninja:we were talking about the possibilty that mihawk's attack was imbued with haki. and he let his imagination go wild, that we gonna get like dragon ball type of attack/nakama powerup…
I think we were discussing the possibilty of Oda's imagination go "wild"…
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Ryankaku? If it's no haki imbued, we can see varies of way to deal with it. From DF abilities to solid object (sword/shield).
"energy/haki" attack is a " who have the stronger haki" matter, it doesn't matter what kind of DF you have.
When haki introduced in manga, i feel like it's kinda a cheat way to reduce the DF complexity, but at least i can enjoy the closed combat/physical attack.
But now we have non solid/physical attack haki imbued is in question that can lead to long range fighting/finishing move. It can diminish the DF complexity/uniqueness.That's a valid complaint, but it seems to be more against haki in general than pseudo ki blasts or whatever.
Even so, I don't think your fear will come true. We have evidence that Devil Fruit powers themselves can be imbued with haki, and even if they can't, there were several examples in Punk Hazard where a Devil Fruit power triumphed over a (supposed) haki disadvantage.
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That's a valid complaint, but it seems to be more against haki in general than pseudo ki blasts or whatever.
Even so, I don't think your fear will come true. We have evidence that Devil Fruit powers themselves can be imbued with haki, and even if they can't, there were several examples in Punk Hazard where a Devil Fruit power triumphed over a (supposed) haki disadvantage.
Well, not really against haki in general, just the "less close combat" and reduced DF's charm possibilty.
Even Devil Fruit user can imbue their powers with haki, it will be back to "who have the stronger haki" issue.
In PH, it's an element of surprise that allowed Devil Fruit power triumph, it's not happen for the 2nd time.But, lets stop this topic for now, it's just a "no one piece this week" discussion, and it's getting more to "what i want to see in the manga" argument.
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Ryankaku? If it's no haki imbued, we can see varies of way to deal with it. From DF abilities to solid object (sword/shield).
"energy/haki" attack is a " who have the stronger haki" matter, it doesn't matter what kind of DF you have.
When haki introduced in manga, i feel like it's kinda a cheat way to reduce the DF complexity, but at least i can enjoy the closed combat/physical attack.
But now we have non solid/physical attack haki imbued is in question that can lead to long range fighting/finishing move. It can diminish the DF complexity/uniqueness.Right now, there's a chance we can have Luffy's "thanking Blueno" scene with Dofla
! Luffy: I'm glad i came to Dressrosa…
Dofla: ??
Luffy: KING PUNCH!!! (haki imbued)
:ninja:I think we were discussing the possibilty of Oda's imagination go "wild"…
Hmmm… This would depend on their profiency in Haki. Law's DF was still able to cut Tashigi who has Haki while Smoker was fine since he is more proficient in Haki than Tashigi. There is also the fact DF users while not using haki(Law) can still beat Haki users by attacking their blind spot. Look back when Smoker fights Law. Monet was also beating Tashigi due to being fast. The only time it will come down to "the one who has the stronger Haki will win" is if they coat their entire body in Haki like Vergo where there are no blind spots. You'd have to use Haki greater than the opponents to break his defenses.
The Logias were too OP. They needed to get nerfed. All Oda is trying to do is balance out the powers in his universe.
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@•Ace•:
Hmmm… This would depend on their profiency in Haki. Law's DF was still able to cut Tashigi who has Haki while Smoker was fine since he is more proficient in Haki than Tashigi. There is also the fact DF users while not using haki(Law) can still beat Haki users by attacking their blind spot. Look back when Smoker fights Law. Monet was also beating Tashigi due to being fast. The only time it will come down to "the one who has the stronger Haki will win" is if they coat their entire body in Haki like Vergo where there are no blind spots. You'd have to use Haki greater than the opponents to break his defenses.
The Logias were too OP. They needed to get nerfed. All Oda is trying to do is balance out the powers in his universe.
I don't really understand the dislike/worry for long range fighting.You see the Zoro flying slash monet image above? I know Zoro just want to hurt her. But lets replace her with "diamond" guy or "barrier" guy, and the (long range) slash is a "to K.O them" slash, as long as the haki's stronger. Am i wrong to worry?
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Okay. Lets see… When we have a Haki user vs a Haki user, having stronger Haki isn't the only way to win. Look at Amazon Lily, Law vs Smoker, and Monet vs Tashigi. Logias can still have their advantage by having greater Haki. Look at Akainu vs Marco and Vista. Now with the body coating thing. Haki is like an armor like Rayleigh said meaning Haki users have two different defenses; their normal defenses and Haki defenses. Lets have Jozu cover himself in Haki. Lets say Zoro's Haki surpasses his and breaks it. What Zoro broke is his Haki defense and not his diamond skin because Zoro can't cut diamond yet. Hope that helps.
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@•Ace•:
Okay. Lets see… When we have a Haki user vs a Haki user, having stronger Haki isn't the only way to win. Look at Amazon Lily, Law vs Smoker, and Monet vs Tashigi. Logias can still have their advantage by having greater Haki. Look at Akainu vs Marco and Vista. Now with the body coating thing. Haki is like an armor like Rayleigh said meaning Haki users have two different defenses; their normal defenses and Haki defenses. Lets have Jozu cover himself in Haki. Lets say Zoro's Haki surpasses his and breaks it. What Zoro broke is his Haki defense and not his diamond skin because Zoro can't cut diamond yet. Hope that helps.
Lets just hope it's true, because if it's not …
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Meh you guys are overthinking things. Typically Haki allows a haki user to bypass a DF users DF defenses like where Luffy loses his blunt damage rubber defense. So with haki any haki user should be able to cut Mr.1 or Jozu…........but the thing is Oda is most likely making some exceptions to the rule due to "PLOT" for hard substance DFs like Mr. 1 (steel) and Jozu (diamond) that even with haki you need to be able to strong enough to cut a certain substance. So if Zoro ever faces Jozu (or probably someone from Blackbeards crew like Shiliew that stole his DF since I don't really see a reason for Zoro to fight Jozu seriously) when he's able to cut him that'll mean he is able to cut diamond. Not becuase he used haki.
