Did I miss what was funny about that or does brennen just not know?
He just… didn't know man.
HE JUST DIDN'T KNOW!
cries
Did I miss what was funny about that or does brennen just not know?
He just… didn't know man.
HE JUST DIDN'T KNOW!
cries
lol
Someday after OP is done it'd be cool to share everything else that's happened.
btw that slinky first thing in the morning made my decade.
…who took part in a Japanese show and battled against Oda's editors (correct me if I'm wrong) with raw facts :D
And he's got an autograph =)
Sorry Demon, one small qualifier. I have two autographs from Oda. I think the first one is covered in a YouTube video in my sig link and the second is my ava.
i mean…dont really care about having boobs or what. but none of the criteria fits violet.
she doesnt really stand out from the rest. (you can even mistake her for robin or boa)
her villain angle already done by robin and franky.
from how she is being portrayed, she most likely dont have a dream or sad backstory (her request to sanji is a trick)
luffy prolly wont like her.
aside from her cool ability. i cant see anything that makes her a candidate.
at least the toy soldier's lines most likely leads to a dream and sad backstory...and luffy already thinks he is funny.
Baby 5 and Violet can both join. Then we'd have 8 boobs on the crew 0.0
Robin alone can accomplish at least that, I think.
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What's the legit criteria for the NN nowadays?
I mean with the last three years alone I think we can agree it wont be as black and white as it used to be.
Boobs 32A wont cut it every time though.
Hmm.
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He got here first I was going for the BC type of date
What's the legit criteria for the NN nowadays?
I mean with the last three years alone I think we can agree it wont be as black and white as it used to be.
Boobs 32A wont cut it every time though.
Hmm.
It has never been black and white, people just can't comprehend the complexity that involves the recruitment of a new nakama
i think we can more or less agree on these criterias:
the criteria for a strawhat is to have all of the following (not necessarily that they need to have it all as soon as they got introduced…all im saying is, if , lets say, a new character gets introduced and he/she fits in some of these criterias, then iy is fine to consider them POSSIBLE strawhat candidate)
1. sad past (with his mentor/role model sacrificing or dying for him/her)
2. dream that requires travelling
3. introduced/revealed as an outcast
4. luffy likes him (the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)
5. being apt in one or more ability,skill.
6. the aftermath of the arc makes him unable to go back to his former group.
i think we can more or less agree on these criterias:
the criteria for a strawhat is to have all of the following (not necessarily that they need to have it all as soon as they got introduced…all im saying is, if , lets say, a new character gets introduced and he/she fits in some of these criterias, then iy is fine to consider them POSSIBLE strawhat candidate)
1. sad past (with his mentor/role model sacrificing or dying for him/her)
2. dream that requires travelling
3. introduced/revealed as an outcast
4. luffy likes him (the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)
5. being apt in one or more ability,skill.
6. the aftermath of the arc makes him unable to go back to his former group.
I'm sure Mocdonald fit the bill PERFECTLY. Afterall, Luffy did ask him to join his crew.
i think we can more or less agree on these criterias:
the criteria for a strawhat is to have all of the following (not necessarily that they need to have it all as soon as they got introduced…all im saying is, if , lets say, a new character gets introduced and he/she fits in some of these criterias, then iy is fine to consider them POSSIBLE strawhat candidate)
1. sad past (with his mentor/role model sacrificing or dying for him/her)
2. dream that requires travelling
3. introduced/revealed as an outcast
4. luffy likes him (the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)
5. being apt in one or more ability,skill.
6. the aftermath of the arc makes him unable to go back to his former group.
So why do you think Tashigi and Smoker will join if 1, 2, 3 are not fitting
Any of those criterias can be broken as soon as Oda decides to do something different.
The only real requirement is that the character is interesting and unique enough to make him a series regular.
So why do you think Tashigi and Smoker will join if 1, 2, 3 are not fitting
"not necessarily that they need to have it all as soon as they got introduced…all im saying is, if , lets say, a new character gets introduced and he/she fits in some of these criterias, then it is fine to consider them POSSIBLE strawhat candidate"
smoker
! 1. sad past (with his mentor/role model sacrificing or dying for him/her)
! 2. dream that requires travelling
! 3. introduced/revealed as an outcast
! 4. luffy likes him (the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)
! 5. being apt in one or more ability,skill.
! 6. the aftermath of the arc makes him unable to go back to his former group.
tashigi
! 1. sad past (with his mentor/role model sacrificing or dying for him/her)
! 2. dream that requires travelling
! 3. introduced/revealed as an outcast
! 4. luffy likes him (the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)
! 5. being apt in one or more ability,skill.
! 6. the aftermath of the arc makes him unable to go back to his former group.
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Any of those criterias can be broken as soon as Oda decides to do something different.
The only real requirement is that the character is interesting and unique enough to make him a series regular.
but as we speak, all of those criterias fit, so unless oda changes it on the next recruit…its what i will go by. and its what i will go by in determining the next likely candidate.
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I'm sure Mocdonald fit the bill PERFECTLY. Afterall, Luffy did ask him to join his crew.
let me quote myself
"(the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)"
"not necessarily that they need to have it all as soon as they got introduced…all im saying is, if , lets say, a new character gets introduced and he/she fits in some of these criterias, then it is fine to consider them POSSIBLE strawhat candidate"
smoker
! 1. sad past (with his mentor/role model sacrificing or dying for him/her)
- shown as a child during roger's execution, seems to admire him but why did he suddenly appeared to have hate pirates now? bah. whatever. ill give you this one. there is still a possibility of him getting his backstory since he is one of the characters in the series with deep, adamant principle to AVOID being a pirate at first.(yep. just like the rest of the strawhats)
! 2. dream that requires travelling
- wowkei. not shown (yet) but if there ever will be one, im betting its connected to aokiji resignation, robin's wisdom on poneglyphs, dragon's organization and the current corruption in the marines.
! 3. introduced/revealed as an outcast
- stray dog of the marines, marine's version of monkey d. luffy. nuff said.
! 4. luffy likes him (the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)
- luffy already said he likes him.
! 5. being apt in one or more ability,skill.
- wiretapping. and entrapment, tactics?
! 6. the aftermath of the arc makes him unable to go back to his former group.
- as i said, i dont wanna predict anything, but the marines are pretty messed up right now (told y'all doflamingo is connected with WG)
tashigi
! 1. sad past (with his mentor/role model sacrificing or dying for him/her)
- her desire to collect the blades from "bad guys"??? i doubt it just came out of a stupid hobby.
! 2. dream that requires travelling
- collect the swords around the world. nuff said. (you cant freely travel as a marine being stationed and all)
! 3. introduced/revealed as an outcast
- him and smoker got their sense of justice, very much like the strawhats and very much different from the marines.
! 4. luffy likes him (the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)
- well, i dont know about this one. LOL. though luffy likes offering help to weak guys who he sees got good heart. we'll see (soon)
! 5. being apt in one or more ability,skill.
- if she's the supposedly rival to zoro, then she would get better…heck, she got the will to get stronger anyways. and scrap that, just her knowledge on swords is an enough skill.
! 6. the aftermath of the arc makes him unable to go back to his former group.
- im telling you all right now, the gorosei will all start show their true skin after this doflamingo arc, it will avalanche from here on out.
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but as we speak, all of those criterias fit, so unless oda changes it on the next recruit...its what i will go by. and its what i will go by in determining the next likely candidate.
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let me quote myself
"(the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)"
And you see… With your own theories EVERY single character can be nakama with the argument not yet shown... which well... is damn stupid
We have discussed these Criterias before and its a good thing that you made it
Because it shows how complex One Piece is when it comes to recruit a New Nakama, you can have dreams, be an outcast, have a sad past and everything else already mentioned but at end of day is pretty clear that those are not the only things that is need for new Crew member since almost every character in One Piece can fill those Criterias
And you see… With your own theories EVERY single character can be nakama with the argument not yet shown... which well... is damn stupid
not really. i never said all criterias should fit all at once. but you can refute the fact that smoker and tashigi fit some of it.
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We have discussed these Criterias before and its a good thing that you made it
Because it shows how complex One Piece is when it comes to recruit a New Nakama, you can have dreams, be an outcast, have a sad past and everything else already mentioned but at end of day is pretty clear that those are not the only things that is need for new Crew member since almost every character in One Piece can fill those Criterias
i agree, it might not be perfect but its kinda cool to have some standards anyway, i know my guess about smoker and tashigi could be really wrong, but at least i can explain it. not just because of some wishlist some people see after a few panels.
i think we can more or less agree on these criterias:
the criteria for a strawhat is to have all of the following (not necessarily that they need to have it all as soon as they got introduced…all im saying is, if , lets say, a new character gets introduced and he/she fits in some of these criterias, then iy is fine to consider them POSSIBLE strawhat candidate)
1. sad past (with his mentor/role model sacrificing or dying for him/her)
2. dream that requires travelling
3. introduced/revealed as an outcast
4. luffy likes him (the one where luffy thinks he is a good guy, not the running gag luffy randomly does)
5. being apt in one or more ability,skill.
6. the aftermath of the arc makes him unable to go back to his former group.
Having character chemistry with, and as, a straw hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything mentioned there combined
You know it's true.
This is, after all, a story.
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lol
Someday after OP is done it'd be cool to share everything else that's happened.
btw that slinky first thing in the morning made my decade.
Sorry Demon, one small qualifier. I have two autographs from Oda. I think the first one is covered in a YouTube video in my sig link and the second is my ava.
そう かんけいないね
殺してでもうばいとる
ゆずってくれ たのむ!
I hope you're a Romancing Saga fan.
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ある意味ハリネズミのジレンマ。
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Did I miss what was funny about that or does brennen just not know?
A little of both, but mostly the latter. In short I thought it was another instance of rumor gone wild. I mean it's not like you are around here anymore, and you've always had a cult following. Anyway, the jokes on me this time, haha.
I mean it's not like you are around here anymore
I pop in once every week or two to see how things are below :ninja:
Having character chemistry with, and as, a straw hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything mentioned there combined
well nico robin seemed like she wont be a very fun strawhat at first right? what youre saying is AFTER joining, which oda would work on….like giving quirks to nico robin and giving her connection to strawhats like nami, zoro, franky and chopper....etc.
well nico robin seemed like she wont be a very fun strawhat at first right? what youre saying is AFTER joining, which oda would work on….like giving quirks to nico robin and giving her connection to strawhats like nami, zoro, franky and chopper....etc.
Well if anything, Robin's the exception to the whole "set-up as a Straw Hat before joining" pattern. Franky, Brook and Jinbei resumed the pattern afterward.
Well if anything, Robin's the exception to the whole "set-up as a Straw Hat before joining" pattern. Franky, Brook
and Jinbeiresumed the pattern afterward.
yeah, but all of my said criterias fit with robin as well.
yeah, but all of my said criterias fit with robin as well.
Yes, but only 5 and 6 were applicable before she joined.
(sorry, I'm pulling hairs here)
Yes, but only 5 and 6 were applicable before she joined.
(sorry, I'm pulling hairs here)
all of the strawhats never fulfilled ALL criterias before they joined seriously.
as i said: (not necessarily that they need to have it all as soon as they got introduced…all im saying is, if , lets say, a new character gets introduced and he/she fits in some of these criterias, then iy is fine to consider them POSSIBLE strawhat candidate)
all of the strawhats never fulfilled ALL criterias before they joined seriously.
as i said: (not necessarily that they need to have it all as soon as they got introduced…all im saying is, if , lets say, a new character gets introduced and he/she fits in some of these criterias, then iy is fine to consider them POSSIBLE strawhat candidate)
My fault, I just skimmed down the page.
My fault, I just skimmed down the page.
no problem at all, i never said it was the absolute truth though, i might be wrong as well. LOL
Here are the chances of joining for some characters, how I see it anyways:
Momo : 50%
Violet : 10%
Kinemon : 2%
Bonney : 0.05%
Rebecca : 0.02%
The tin soldier : 0.01%
Monet : 10^-100
Momo : 50%
Violet : 10%
Here are the chances of joining for some characters, how I see it anyways:
Momo : 50%
Violet : 10%
You left out "Kinemon: 2%"
…It's gonna be Jinbe.
Speculation: The very last member will be a Zoan Fruit user, or a "weak trio" member in a specialty we don't have yet. Scientist (Vegapunk?) makes some sense, but that depends on his actual personality.
Storywise? Here is what you need to look for. They can't be obviously stronger than Luffy or obviously weaker than Usopp. They're unlikely to blur the lines between the three "strength" categories in the Strawhats either, and are also unlikely to have a skill that directly overlaps with another Strawhat. So no one with the... Sniper-Sniper Fruit or a Fruit that lets them imitate Luffy's stretching.
If someone would fit much better as a "late game alliance" like Hancock/Amazon Lilly or Vivi/Alabasta, then they're unlikely to join as well.
Here are the chances of joining for some characters, how I see it anyways:
Momo : 50%
Violet : 10%
Kinemon : 2%
Bonney : 0.05%
Rebecca : 0.02%
The tin soldier : 0.01%
Monet : 10^-100
Wait why are people talking about Bonney again? She hasn't been seen simce the timeskip, and there wasn't the slightest hint of her joining prior to that…
Wait why are people talking about Bonney again? She hasn't been seen simce the timeskip, and there wasn't the slightest hint of her joining prior to that…
Because she has boobs
Wait why are people talking about Bonney again? She hasn't been seen simce the timeskip, and there wasn't the slightest hint of her joining prior to that…
Personality mostly. Her Tomboy attitude is generally popular and distinct from both Nami and Robin (and is pretty much the only woman so far to have it). She also apparently has some significance to the WG, given by Sakuzi's attitude towards her when he captures her, which could possibly lead into a story arc later on in the story.
Because she has boobs
She's actually a cool character, which makes the random as hell inclusion of here there really annoying because you're right and she is only there because boobs.
Better for boring whocares people like Baby5 to be treated as sex objects than the actual personality having semi-important more fleshed out characters like Bonney.
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Personality mostly. Her Tomboy attitude is generally popular and distinct from both Nami and Robin (and is pretty much the only woman so far to have it). She also apparently has some significance to the WG, given by Sakuzi's attitude towards her when he captures her, which could possibly lead into a story arc later on in the story.
Hey! Great point! You know, I bet there aren't many characters with important secrets that could lead to storylines down the line! This really helps narrow Bonney down from the crowd!
I don't seriously see Bonney joining! She does seem like an interesting character and I'm curious about her past but her devil fruit is a bit too hax for SHs! If she got to fight a miniboss she could either change him to a baby or old man and automatically win! Either that or the enemy would find some way to reflect her power in which case it would be useless! She just couldn't provide interesting fights if she was with the Strawhats.
Does anybody really think ANYONE would want Bonney in the crew if she were a dude? Same personality, same backstory, but a guy? Because I seriously doubt that
Does anybody really think ANYONE would want Bonney in the crew if she were a dude? Same personality, same backstory, but a guy? Because I seriously doubt that
Well, that depends. Would he still have nice breasts?
@Panda:
Well, that depends. Would he still have nice breasts?
Somehow I knew this was coming :ninja:
Judging by the original crew sketch from Green, I'm just going to keep my eyes on one of these dwarves. Unless Chopper took on that physical trait, the super tiny mate seems like something unique enough aesthetically that Oda might want to have on his all star team.
The problem that has been brought up before about a dwarf being a nakama is the fact that during a scene like the Enies Lobby one, the dwarf would not be able to be seen. I believe that not only have we not seen a dwarf capable of having crew mate qualities, but because of the fact they are too small to see without zooming in makes them very unlikely to be a crew mate.
The problem that has been brought up before about a dwarf being a nakama is the fact that during a scene like the Enies Lobby one, the dwarf would not be able to be seen. I believe that not only have we not seen a dwarf capable of having crew mate qualities, but because of the fact they are too small to see without zooming in makes them very unlikely to be a crew mate.
Well its a great thing Enies Lobby happened before the dwarves were introduced… :getlost:Still they aren't microscopic.
No a dwarf has not displayed any Straw Hat qualities in the sense of character development, relationships, etc. We've had 1 chapter actually seeing what they look like, that just needs time.
Still my point is Oda originally intended for a really small crew mate, a "Gardner" too and these guys are self proclaimed experts with plants. Not to mention the majority of them are super fast and are probably just as strong as the one hanging with Zoro.
Considering the above I think everyone should be paying attention to the tribe of dwarves if they are n the look out for potential crew mates.
Of course 35 of you might jump on me with Usopp's, Robin's and Nami's plants, saying they can do the gardening themselves. Well they could, but one do these dwarves could do it better. Much like Franky's craftsmanship ship VS Usopp's.
Why does the crew need a gardener? They probably don't. But why not make Usopp's pop greens even more abundant/potent or Nami's oranges even sweeter? :ninja:
Bonney will be interesting, If she could Join the SHs for an arc or two, her personality would piss off Nami, she will have contest with Luffy and I think she can drink as well but as a crew member nah, I do t see it.
After the time skip, have Luffy ever asked somebody to join his crew besides Jimbi?
Well its a great thing Enies Lobby happened before the dwarves were introduced… :getlost:Still they aren't microscopic.
His point is that we'll obviously have more crew shots like that in the future. Just as we did prior to Enies Lobby (namely the end of Alabasta with Vivi). Or you know, every single color spread and promotional image…
Still my point is Oda originally intended for a really small crew mate, a "Gardner" too and these guys are self proclaimed experts with plants. Not to mention the majority of them are super fast and are probably just as strong as the one hanging with Zoro.
He also didn't draw Robin at all, has given us a Fishman in a different context, traded it's jobs with the Franky character who looked almost nothing like Franky, and Usopp has ended up the plant guy on the crew inarguably, nor is their strength in any way impressive by the standards of even like East Blue fights…
I don't know why we're taking that Data Book thing as evidence really. It's not a reliable indicator of anything, and even what you have there has largely been stripped down and switched around to other people. All you're left with is "small".
Considering the above I think everyone should be paying attention to the tribe of dwarves if they are n the look out for potential crew mates.
Considering above I don't think they should at all.
Especially when paired with the fact that Oda said the Strawhats will end up the size of a soccer team, 11 people. With Jimbei that makes for only one more. Who I doubt will be some typical "we met a wierdo on an island" story eyet again, but something much bigger, and likely saved for later. Probably even someone we already know. The Magus of the party basically.
Of course 35 of you might jump on me with Usopp's, Robin's and Nami's plants, saying they can do the gardening themselves. Well they could, but one do these dwarves could do it better. Much like Franky's craftsmanship ship VS Usopp's.
No actually Usopp is explictely shown as being now a plant expert. Not someone who plays with occasionally. But a plant expert.
Comparing this to his tinkering before Franky is asinine. You're randomly shoohanding the two entire years he spent on MAGIC PLANT island learning a million plant things, which he has used in a ton of important moments already since the time-skip ended.
What you're reading into this plant thing with the dwarves, is way more likely the other way around. That Usopp because of his plant expertise along with their gullibility, means he's going to end up leading them around. So it's some stuff for his character, not some brand new person.
Why does the crew need a gardener? They probably don't.
No they don't at all.
But why not make Usopp's pop greens even more abundant/potent or Nami's oranges even sweeter? :ninja:
I think even you know the latter point there is garbage lol.
As for the former, also garbage lol.
Oda isn't going to create a main cast member whose entire purpose is to supplement another one's skills. They're supposed to have their own roles.
Captain, Swordsman, Navigator, Sniper/Plantman/Tinker, Cook, Doctor, Scholar, Shipwright, Musician…..Assistant to the Sniper/Plantman/Tinker...??
Read that to yourself, does that make any sense at all?
Even Jimbei has the Helmsman role potentially, as well as being a strong combatant, and is uber able in water.
No one is joining the crew to grow plants for someone else.
Does anybody really think ANYONE would want Bonney in the crew if she were a dude? Same personality, same backstory, but a guy? Because I seriously doubt that
Why not ? She is one of the few (if not the only) so-called candidate that seems to have an important backstory.
Why not ? She is one of the few (if not the only) so-called candidate that seems to have an important backstory.
She's not a candidate at all. There's not a single indication in any way shape or form of Oda hinting or suggesting or setting her up as a crew member. Literally the only interaction with the crew she had was stopping and yelling at Zoro for almost getting an Admiral called in on their asses on Saobody. He didn't even know who she was lol. Nor her.
There isn't a single reason anyone should consider her a candidate.
I called her a candidate because some people thought she is a candidate not because I personally believe she will join the crew. And since it started when Akainu hinted at her backstory, I think that for once, that has little to do with the fact that she has boobs. But maybe I am too optimistic on this issue.
@Monkey:
Especially when paired with the fact that Oda said the Strawhats will end up the size of a soccer team, 11 people. With Jimbei that makes for only one more. Who I doubt will be some typical "we met a wierdo on an island" story eyet again, but something much bigger, and likely saved for later. Probably even someone we already know. The Magus of the party basically.
I'm being serious when I say this, but you definitely seem like one of the most knowledgeable people here. If you were to come up with someone to fit this criteria, who would be the most likely person in your opinion?