San Juan Wolf is a merman, right? I can see that from a mile…
Chapter 613:"The Mermaid Princess in Koukaku Tower" Discussion
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San Juan Wolf is a merman, right? I can see that from a mile…
A lil bit offtopic, but not that much. He COULD be a merman, after all he is called "Giant Battle SHIP", so it could be.
If he was a "regular" super-giant, he had to swim a lot to gain such a title.
If he was a merman, I'd say he'd be an orca-whale-merman (because of his facial hair in the face. It looks like the pattern of an orca-whale somehow).
Or he is a merman of the biggest whale-species. We call it "Blauwal" in Austria and Germany. -
A lil bit offtopic, but not that much. He COULD be a merman, after all he is called "Giant Battle SHIP", so it could be.
If he was a "regular" super-giant, he had to swim a lot to gain such a title.
If he was a merman, I'd say he'd be an orca-whale-merman (because of his facial hair in the face. It looks like the pattern of an orca-whale somehow).
Or he is a merman of the biggest whale-species. We call it "Blauwal" in Austria and Germany.He could be a Giant Wolffish Fishman.
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He could be a Giant Wolffish Fishman.
Well, he cannot be a fishman, because he has got normal hands, although his face looks kinda similar to the wolffish's face (a lil bit triangle-shaped).
But that is an ugly fish (I got a link there and I hid it, because IDK if there'd be trouble with hotlinkin):
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His facial hair reminds me of an orca-whale, IDK.
B2T:
this chapter wasn't as good as the last ones.
Too much goofyin' around between Luffy and the princess. Oda could have spend less panels with their interactions IMO.
Nevertheless this arc also needs funny parts too, so I'm ok with it - for now. -
Zoro's being hidden seems like a hint that his bounty did go up!
Just as his arm is hidden, that means that he lost it! Or got a transplant from mihawk!
There is no reason to asume that Zoro did something in the last years besides Bide Perona and Train with Mihawk, nothing that would grant him a bounty raise.
Especialy when the rest of the crew is due one soon.
BTW, the posters, Robin's and Franky's are the same that before, but the rest are all new, including Usopp's, no more Sogeking?
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Well, he cannot be a fishman, because he has got normal hands, although his face looks kinda similar to the wolffish's face (a lil bit triangle-shaped).
But that is an ugly fish (I got a link there and I hid it, because IDK if there'd be trouble with hotlinkin):
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His facial hair reminds me of an orca-whale, IDK.
B2T:
this chapter wasn't as good as the last ones.
Too much goofyin' around between Luffy and the princess. Oda could have spend less panels with their interactions IMO.
Nevertheless this arc also needs funny parts too, so I'm ok with it - for now.We never clearly saw Sanjuan's hands.
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We never clearly saw Sanjuan's hands.
Yeah we did, or at least one of em. Chapter 575 page 10
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I wonder why we have again only 17 pages…
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How about instead of making guesses about what hands he uses, we wait until Oda tells us, mkay?
Calm down.
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How about instead of making guesses about what hands he uses, we wait until Oda tells us, mkay?
Calm down.
16 chars of drugs are bad
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I agree that we should wait on Oda. It less than a week till next chapter. We could be guessing, and arguing for a week and still be wrong.
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what happened to. VVD is the one who Shirley saw destroying FI instead of luffy. theory?
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what happened to. VVD is the one who Shirley saw destroying FI instead of luffy. theory?
He doesn't have a straw hat D:
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About that glove thing…. I was aginst the idea of it having a devil fruit because of the Zoan needing to animate it thing but... If the stapler on my desk were to eat the gomu gomu fruit it would be a rubber stapler, big whoop, but if it were to eat the target target fruit I can now terrorize my coworkers by firing staplers at them where ever they are in the building.
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and it wouldn't look good to see two namis in the same spreadshot :-)
i want to ask u about ur sig , is this a one piece game ? i mean the 2 pics
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Or like Mr. 2 could copy people he had touched before.
So it could mean that he can only target one people at a time, and only the last person he touched ? And so the princess was the last person he touched at least 10 years ago ?About Black Kabuto: it will be the same as Kabuto, but painted in black :-D
If my theory is correct, the last person he touched with his right hand was the Princess, 10 years ago.
@Roronoa:Croc also could have used his left hand to suck up water. The reason why he only used his right hand, is quite simple: his left hand is gone and replaced by a hook! And Mr. 2's ability aquired both hands because he had to transform into another person and back to himself.
About the discussion of VDD being in a bubble under water with half of his body and the question if the water weakens him when his legs are surrounded by it:
Didn't we see Luffy using gear 3rd with CoA underwater? And his giant fist was outside the bubble, wasn't it? Oda needs to explain the DFs powers underwater more precisely. Maybe when Vegapunk shows up or in an SBS.
Or maybe the water around VDD's legs doesn't weaken him that much because he is a fishman. All I know is DF users can't move themselves when dropped into water. They can only be moved by others (Nojiko and Gensan pulling up and stretching Luffys neck to the surface @ AP). But VDD as well as Luffy still could walk by themselves underwater when the upper body was in a bubble.
And a fishman still can breathe underwater, even after eating a DF.Though i hadn't thought of that (DUH!!), i still think i'm right: Croc can't use any other part of his body to make something dry, can he?
Example: if Luffy makes a Pistol attack to the chest, the fist goes right through his body but he's unable to dry Luffy unless he grabs him, no?
About Bon Kurei, someone please correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't he only able to commit to memory with one hand and only change his face to one of those he stored in memory with the other? I mean: he couldn't switch hands to do it, IIRC.
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I find it odd 2 of the 3 major villians need to join forces to take on king neptune but Zoro seems to be able to handle the king himself
I don't think Zoro can handle Neptune, I just think we haven't seen Neptune in true action yet, I may be wrong, though
and the way he broke out of prison just case he wanted to a bit like silver in the auction house me thinks
Hmm? I thought they still hadn't arrested him, he was still eating and they were gonna try to arrest him now.
New cover story trumps already awesome chapter. I'm hoping for a Blackbeard cameo at some point during it. I want to see just what two years did to that beard of his.
Doubt it, Blackbeard is the new Younkou, he'l only appear when Oda wants to reveal this plot point
The two antagonists team up to try and convince the readers that they're the biggest danger in this arc. I don't buy it, but they'll get plenty of revenue without me.
Why does no one buy this? D:
Hey I dunno if this has been discussed or not (my bad if it has), but with FI being "threaten" by the Strawhats and all… what's the chances that we may see Big Mum in this arc? I mean, isn't she suppose to protect FI from pirates causing them trouble.... especially if mermaids being kidnapped? I mean seeing a yonkou in this arc would make it Q amazing!
At most, she gets pissed off and starts sending people after the SH's, we won't see her meet the SH's just yet.
@Sniper:
O_O That's not a cool fight, that's a perfect fight.
Unless they're too much of a match….
Usopp couldn't dodge anything and he'd have to aim while being targeted by shit, pretty exciting fight.
@Don:
Maybe the shark gathers information from outside to tell her…afterall she never was outside her room and that shark could be the preciuos mirror of the world who tells her lot of interesting stuff from the outside world.
Great theory
I wonder why we have again only 17 pages…
Double spreads count as two pages
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Just as his arm is hidden, that means that he lost it! Or got a transplant from mihawk!
There is no reason to asume that Zoro did something in the last years besides Bide Perona and Train with Mihawk, nothing that would grant him a bounty raise.
Especialy when the rest of the crew is due one soon.
BTW, the posters, Robin's and Franky's are the same that before, but the rest are all new, including Usopp's, no more Sogeking?
There are no posters, just photos. And Choppers is the same as well. And maybe Nami, but I can't really tell there..
@TheMidnightRift:Double spreads count as two pages
It only has 17 pages including the coverpage.
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i dont see any reason why it would tho…...
we dont know what happened in two years.
could be any reason to make it go up.and if anyone from the crew would need a new bounty, its zoro.
anyone got an idea about how much it's gonna be?
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Don't know whether it has already happened or will happen in the near future, I do hope that some of the crew members get a bounty increase as Luffy's is too far ahead of everyone else's at the moment
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People need to face reality. WE ARE NOT GETTING ANOTHER CREW MEMBER! Anyone after a two-year time skip would feel kind of cheap coming to the crew. It can only be someone the SHs or Luffy meet before the time-skip and as of now Luffy is getting allies and not crew-members. Besides the crew is cramped as is, we have already seen how people are getting limited face-time, another person would overcrowd the story. Even though I know people won't stop I am going to ask anyway…stop, its become so annoying and if you are actually serious than there is probably no helping you either way.
Who are you?
we dont know what happened in two years.
could be any reason to make it go up.and if anyone from the crew would need a new bounty, its zoro.
anyone got an idea about how much it's gonna be?
190 mill or something like that?I say Sanji could use one more than Zoro. He's just as worthy as him to be a Supernova.
I guess the big difference is Zoro's job is that of a fighter, and Sanji a cook.
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I'm calling it now that Sanji is gonna be the one to stop Dekken from touching the Princess, making Dekken target Sanji from now on.
[Dekken VS Sanji]
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I'm calling it now that Sanji is gonna be the one to stop Dekken from touching the Princess, making Dekken target Sanji from now on.
[Dekken VS Sanji]
I'm more thinking that it'll be Caribou vs Sanji.
You can't just kidnap three mermaids and get away unharmed.
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Don't know whether it has already happened or will happen in the near future, I do hope that some of the crew members get a bounty increase as Luffy's is too far ahead of everyone else's at the moment
None of them have done anything to warrant a bounty increase. Luffy however punched out a Tenryubito, invaded Impel Down and caused a mass jail break, and then particpated in the war at Marineford.
Everyone will get a bounty increase when the time comes.
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I'm more thinking that it'll be Caribou vs Sanji.
You can't just kidnap three mermaids and get away unharmed.
Unless he learnt to use haki in the past 2 years - i very much doubt that'll be happening…
Sanji vs Van Derdeckan seems more likely - Sanji won't take too kindly to that a-hole harassing her.
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None of them have done anything to warrant a bounty increase. Luffy however punched out a Tenryubito, invaded Impel Down and caused a mass jail break, and then particpated in the war at Marineford.
Everyone will get a bounty increase when the time comes.
Usopp also "attacked" a Tenryubito :P
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I find it odd 2 of the 3 major villians need to join forces to take on king neptune but Zoro seems to be able to handle the king himself
and the way he broke out of prison just case he wanted to a bit like silver in the auction house me thinks
the king was showing obvious signs that he didn't think arresting them for crimes they did not yet commit was right and this is probably because of that
i dont see any reason why it would tho…...
zolo got busted using counterfiet coupons from the internet
@Roronoa:Well, he cannot be a fishman, because he has got normal hands, although his face looks kinda similar to the wolffish's face (a lil bit triangle-shaped).
But that is an ugly fish (I got a link there and I hid it, because IDK if there'd be trouble with hotlinkin):
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His facial hair reminds me of an orca-whale, IDK.
B2T:
this chapter wasn't as good as the last ones.
Too much goofyin' around between Luffy and the princess. Oda could have spend less panels with their interactions IMO.
Nevertheless this arc also needs funny parts too, so I'm ok with it - for now.that thing is hideous
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Unless he learnt to use haki in the past 2 years - i very much doubt that'll be happening…
Sanji vs Van Derdeckan seems more likely - Sanji won't take too kindly to that a-hole harassing her.
Luffy defeated Crocodile without haki, so it's not impossible for Sanji to beat Caribou.
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Now this was a great chapter!.
Loads of info, lot of stuff happening, you could feel story was progressing, designs were perfect as ever on top of that all a cover story and it is about the Straw Hats and how world will see them, so I really really enjoyed it.
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a bunch of stuff happening at once, classic oda.
Vander Deckens power reminds me of Sniper from YYH.
I lol'd when zoro said that he let himself out of the prison.
Looks like this new arc will have 2 main villians since Hosi Jones and Vander Decken are teaming up.
personal thought: I honestly believe that Caribou will un wantingly be on the strawhats side since he's a human, he'll probably get confronted by one of the fishman pirates. It would be nice to see a villianisk character get put on the protagonist side but not really wanting to help them out. Kinda like with Vegeta how he always got stuck with goku and his friends but wanted nothing to do with them.
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Do swamps have a weaknesS? like i hear about swams drying up all the time….would heat be a counter against caribou? if so...diablo jambe sounds like the thing to et this job done
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Don't know if this was mentioned before- but vander dekken seems to have a df and he is a fishmen :S so he actually can swimm :s that means Fishmen + DF = Swimm = EXTREME STRONG ???
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I don't think Decken can swim since he was in a bubble when he met Hodi Jones.
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None of them have done anything to warrant a bounty increase. Luffy however punched out a Tenryubito, invaded Impel Down and caused a mass jail break, and then particpated in the war at Marineford.
Everyone will get a bounty increase when the time comes.
We don't know that for Zoro or Franky. Blowing up vegapunk's lab seems like a big deal and we don't know what zoro did during the 2 years. Luffy's bounty being 3 times as much as the next person puts a dampener on the crew as a whole, makes it seem like the captain is leagues ahead of closest person.
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Do swamps have a weaknesS? like i hear about swams drying up all the time….would heat be a counter against caribou? if so...diablo jambe sounds like the thing to et this job done
haki sounds like the thing to get the job done, but yeah, mud dries over heat since water evaporates and thus becomes solid…
I think there are 100.000.000 of other stuff to debate though
For instance, who is the main villain, I still think those two are of no threat to SH's so...
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haki sounds like the thing to get the job done, but yeah, mud dries over heat since water evaporates and thus becomes solid…
If that's true then I can't think of a better match against Caribou than Sanji. Who would be more pissed about someone kidnapping and trying to sell beautiful mermaids?
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This. This should be fun…
I'm also for a Dekken vs. Ussop battle... SNIPER BATTTTLLEEE
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@Mr.:
If that's true then I can't think of a better match agaist Caribou than Sanji. Who would be more pissed about someone kidnapping and trying to sell beautiful mermaids?
I'm surprised that so many people are still debating this. When Caribou became a captive on the Sunny-go, he was planning to kidnap some mermaids. That alone should have hinted that Sanji will be after him some time later. The others wouldn't fit the role of "chivalrous knight" as well as he does.
Edit: Why do I have the suspicion that this fight will be one of the most hilarious chase scenes we have had since his adventure in Okama Land?
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This. This should be fun…
I'm also for a Dekken vs. Ussop battle... SNIPER BATTTTLLEEE
I would have refuted this notion, given the fact that Usopp has been known to have trouble with lesser villains in the past. He's taken a huge step forward though, and that fight would be an opportunity to showcase how awesome he's become.
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Luffy defeated Crocodile without haki, so it's not impossible for Sanji to beat Caribou.
I can't decide which is more likely, both Van Decker and Caribou are both enemies to women, but then the princess has been labeled as the most beautiful in the world and the whole 10 years stalking thing is the perfect thing to get him pissed off rather than a standard kidnapping, which is to say the more vile the crime the better emotion we get from him.
Conversly, I don't think the Haki thing will be as people expect, Sanji will unquestionably master haki as he is one of the "big 3" of the straw hat crew, I think another member of the crew will beat Caribou on these grounds as a surprise haki user is more dramatic than the expected ones…. as for which? Nico Robin is the most likely candidate, tho outside of haki I think franky could have an intersting fight with a swamp man.
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if he ate the devil fruit then how come he's still alive under the sea?
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@Cyan:
He has gills .
guys, please remember that he WAS in a bubble when he was talking with Hodi, and they WERE in water. so…
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The way I see the battles going this far…
Luffy Vs. Hodi
Zoro Vs. Hyouzou
Sanji Vs.Zeo
Daruma Vs. Chopper
Dosun Vs. Franky
Ikaros Vs. Brook
Vander Dekken Vs. Crew
Hate to leave out Usopp, Nami and Robin out. But I really doubt I am right. I'm sure there will be more characters to fight, or perhaps even some 2v1 fights, where two Strawhats fight against one enemy.
But I also think we will see the Monster Trio fight vs. the Princes. Perhaps that will leave Zeo, Hodi and Hyouzou for some other Strawhats.
Of course the chance of me being right is terribly low. I would also rather see Oda do something less predictable then this. This is just my fight predictions...
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The way I see the battles going this far…
Luffy Vs. Hodi
Zoro Vs. Hyouzou
Sanji Vs.Zeo
Daruma Vs. Chopper
Dosun Vs. Franky
Ikaros Vs. Brook
Vander Dekken Vs. Crew
Hate to leave out Usopp, Nami and Robin out. But I really doubt I am right. I'm sure there will be more characters to fight, or perhaps even some 2v1 fights, where two Strawhats fight against one enemy.
But I also think we will see the Monster Trio fight vs. the Princes. Perhaps that will leave Zeo, Hodi and Hyouzou for some other Strawhats.
Of course the chance of me being right is terribly low. I would also rather see Oda do something less predictable then this. This is just my fight predictions...
Except for the first two there are absolutely no indicators for these match-ups.
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Considering that it's highly likely that Van der Dekken can only persue one target at a time with his DF power a group battle seems highly unlikely. The other matchups are kind of random as well as Chocula said Zoro vs Hyozou and Luffy vs Hody is reasonable but the rest is still in the dark.
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I kinda want to see The SH crew blow threw Hodi and VDD. They just seem so weak, the only way I see them a challenge is if both VDD and Hodi team up to fight luffy.
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I don't think either of them will be the final villain.
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Well caribou will probably be the last bad guy to be defeated on FI.