loLLLLLL, bepo is just too awesome.
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loLLLLLL, bepo is just too awesome.
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@Lordzeb121:
why is it that when Akainu mows down everyone in his path to accomplish his goal he's blood thirsty but when luffy mows down everyone in his path to accomplish his goal he's a great guy…
Pirates are evil, thats the real jist of this war. People live in fear of them. The marines now have an opportunity to erase some of the most feared pirates in the world, why wouldn't they. coby and Tashigi are saying that their objective is over but thats not the case, would you really let tons of world class criminals go just because you killed their leader. The only negative thing i see going on is them letting soldiers die who could otherwise be saved. But seriously its about time the marines showed that they have the same tenacity and passion for their justice as pirates do for their lawlessness...
Well said.
@Ace_san_is_awesome:
Akainu is blood thirsty because he's willing to mow down his allies too
Only his "allies" who aren't truly committed to justice i.e. cowards, traitors, etc.
You'll get mowed down if you abandon your fellow allies, especially in a war. You'll get mowed down if you side with the pirates and show them mercy.
I didn't see Akainu going around attacking marines for no reason. Those reasons were completely legitimate imo and when you really look at it you have to question whether these ppl are reall your allies to begin with. There are fodder marines getting maimed and losing their lives while we got marines trying to run away and trying to save everybody on some kumbaya shit.
Only time marines got hurt because of Akainu is when they wouldn't get out of the way of his magma fists raining down on pirates.
Mangastream page 7
I think that MAYBE Shanks put some words into his mind… and not that Coby is using mantra
@Lordzeb121:
why is it that when Akainu mows down everyone in his path to accomplish his goal he's blood thirsty but when luffy mows down everyone in his path to accomplish his goal he's a great guy…
But Luffy wouldn't mow down one of his own side because he thought they were weak. Akainu mowing down everyone in his path isn't evil because he was only attacking his enemies but when he purposley attacks his own side then he starts to become an evil Bas***d.
On a different note i'm glad to see Coby, helmelpo, Tashigi & Smoker again. I always become curious when characters disappear from the scene for a long time even when you know they're there somewhere :)
Lol just because Coby heard a 'single voice' in his head does not mean he has mantra. The voice could of been his conscience.
looks like akainu is actually scared of shanks
and coby got knocked out by shanks passive haki or he had a stroke because akainu was about to fist him ;0
But I loled hard. A simple sword can block magma-fisting but Ace body not. Not well trained my friend xD
And Kizaru, a man with the speed of light, are told by Ben to not use a single muscle.
God how awesome they are. I hope we will see Lucky and Co as well
Just got back from bashing Onemanga " "Theorists" " who still believe Ace is gonna be revived. What'd I miss?
http://i39.tinypic.com/2d0b6h5.jpg
looks like akainu is actually scared of shanks
and coby got knocked out by shanks passive haki or he had a stroke because akainu was about to fist him ;0
That's not fear, it's just shock like everyone else was shocked. Akainu isn't stupid. He knows the yonkou is strong he just took some blows from one after beating the crap out of him/nearly killing him.
First of all I want to pay some homage to Ben Beckman and his haki-powered kairoseki bullets. This man should be holding that rifle sideways he is so G.
More importantly though I am curious why everyone seems to think that Shanks has to give the SH back or else Luffy has to quit/change names/find Ace's hat. Luffy has accomplished more than enough with the hat. His nickname isn't changing just because he's not wearing it at this point. Right now though Luffy is at a point where he is going to need some strong motivation when he wakes up.
By taking his hat back publicly like that Shanks is essentially acknowledging his bond with Luffy. He's going to wipe everyone's ass for them and then leave word for Luffy to come get the hat back when he's ready. I don't see a better way to motivate a lifeless Luffy than a combination of challenge and acknowledgment from Shanks himself.
The only real question in my mind is who gets to tell Luffy. My guess is that it will be Coby. He will probably ask Shanks why he took Luffy's hat…. when he recovers from pissing himself.
Bloodthirsty-> thirst for blood, let's be honest Akainu is one, it doesn't matter whether or not it's 'just' the guy wants to kill. He went behind the scenes and killed people who ran away, he could easily have had squad do that, but no he did it himself.
Pirates are bloodthirsty in their pillaging and battles, they kill innocent people that have done nothing, Akainu wouldn't unless there was a need for it. So both parties are bloodthirsty although they are doing their natural jobs.
Btw Coby was sobbing so much he mustered all his might to say those words, he passed out because of the tension and fear of death, not Shanks moving around haking. We have yet to see people pass out from haki if it was not intended for them.
coby clearly has some type of haki. right when he said "a single voice dissapeared," a marine died.
coby clearly has some type of haki. right when he said "a single voice dissapeared," a marine died.
Or he has some sort of Mantra.
I don't like the idea, but you make a darn good point. Law is leaving and the hat is still left on the site. There seems to be no way for Luffy to retrieve it again, unless he meets with Shanks prematurely and that doesn't feel right yet. There's a reason why Luffy is unconscious right now.
Also, to all the people who feel this arc is dragging, I fail to feel the same. Look at Bleach for the last 100 chapters. That is dragging, because hardly any plot development is being made when all they do is fight and fight and fight one character after another. One Piece however is making good development every chapter. Ace dying. Luffy going mental. Blackbeard appearing. Whitebeard dying. Blackbeard obtaining Gura Gura no Mi. All escape paths being blocked. Luffy dropping the strawhat. Trafalgar Law appearing. Tsunami heading towards Sabaody. Coby standing up to Akainu. Shanks appearing. And that's just 6 chapters worth.
I think there will be 5 more chapters before the war ends. That's just about enough to have it end with Volume 59 and then Volume 60 will deal with the aftermath. And Enies Lobby still lasted longer than that.
And on another note, we need a Scanlation using cnet's translation this week. This week Mangastream's version had weird written all over.
ha no kidding. lets grab a decent spot to start this bleach arc. chapter 237 was the chapter that orihime said her goodbyes to sleeping ichigo to go be hostage in hueco mundo.
that was as said 237, now we are 396 plus the -negative chapters in there. that is roughly 170 chapters. i mean damn, that is almost 3 and half years. where were we in one piece 170 chapters ago. hmm we were watching nami fight kalifa and monster chopper being first seen.
and we could consider the current bleach arc to have started when they returned to real world after saving rukial, which happened 182. I mean damn 182-397 +10 for -108 chapters. that is insane. A good 225 chapters or so.
225 CHAPTERS. HOLY SHIT. All of Fairy Tail is 177. All of Negima is 283. 225 chapters ago one piece we were at water 7 learning franky's past. naruto was in process of trying to save gaara. its just insane how long this current arc for bleach has been going on.
THANK God that oda is not showing a long ass battle for every commander, admiral, vice admiral, supernova, shichibukai, sengoku, garp, each blackbeard pirate, and so on. If this was bleach, we would be seeing all of that. And that is why Bleach hasn't gotten to a new arc in 225 chapters. In that tiem one piece had entire enies lobby, thriller bark, shaondy, amazon lily, impel down, and now after thsi chapter looks like in 1-2 chapters marineford arc as well. though to be fair impel down and marineford should be considered same arc. both are all for saving ace.
He kicked 2 admirals.
Technically 3, if you count slashing Akainu with his Big Bird feet as a kick.
First of all I want to pay some homage to Ben Beckman and his haki-powered kairoseki bullets. This man should be holding that rifle sideways he is so G.
More importantly though I am curious why everyone seems to think that Shanks has to give the SH back or else Luffy has to quit/change names/find Ace's hat. Luffy has accomplished more than enough with the hat. His nickname isn't changing just because he's not wearing it at this point. Right now though Luffy is at a point where he is going to need some strong motivation when he wakes up.
By taking his hat back publicly like that Shanks is essentially acknowledging his bond with Luffy. He's going to wipe everyone's ass for them and then leave word for Luffy to come get the hat back when he's ready. I don't see a better way to motivate a lifeless Luffy than a combination of challenge and acknowledgment from Shanks himself.
The only real question in my mind is who gets to tell Luffy. My guess is that it will be Coby. He will probably ask Shanks why he took Luffy's hat…. when he recovers from pissing himself.
Luffy HAS to get the hat back. Not only is it his trademark now, but it also represents the promise that was made between them when Luffy was younger. He's supposed to give it back only once he becomes the pirate king. That's why he's always been so hell bent on protecting it, it's a physical representation of his promise and his dream.
@S.C.:
Technically 3, if you count slashing Akainu with his Big Bird feet as a kick.
That was vista, Marco simply kicked Akainus hand.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-574/page007.html
I want to see Lucky more than anything at this point. Hes probably ready to shoot heads and eat meat.
Oh and dont forget everyone, a foot(with sandels on btw) blocked light, so Magma being blocked by a sword is nothing special.
That was vista, Marco simply kicked Akainus hand.
I think he was aiming for his stomach, but it's been a while since I saw that image.
Luffy HAS to get the hat back. Not only is it his trademark now, but it also represents the promise that was made between them when Luffy was younger. He's supposed to give it back only once he becomes the pirate king. That's why he's always been so hell bent on protecting it, it's a physical representation of his promise and his dream.
Wrong Shanks said to him she should bring it to him when he becomes a great pirate
Shanks: It's my very favorite hat. Come and bring it back to me sometime. Once you've grown up into a great and splendid pirate.
Actually all marines are here, fodder and top.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/550/06-07/
Read the caption, 100.000 ELITE troops. Thesre are just those who they think could do something against this caliber of opponent. I mean did you honestly think that they just pulled out all the troops stationed around the world and stuffed them onto a single battlefield even after Sengoku said that this was a battle that couldnt be won with sheer numbers?
Even when we're talking about these kind of massive numbers it's quality and not quantity.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/548/05/
Heck there are atleast ten thousand troops still avalible outside of Impel down, that if anything proves that not all troops are fighting at Marineford. All the strongest marines of each rank are there. But those are not even close to all Marines.
The 100k marines here would mostly die if the island was sunk, the ships and maybe Aokiji freezing the ocean would save a bunch "top tiers", but in the end they would be devastated as their power lies in numbers.
You really think that Oda would let 100K people die :p
They'd be saved by Aokiji, or stuffing themselves onto boats. A few grunts are probably all the casualites that such an act would claim. Now it would however hurt their pride immensly. But nothing that would "destroy" them.
Shanks crew is so badass because they look and act like pirates could in the real world. None have any devil fruit or other special abilities, except being like real life pirates just probably 100 times stronger / faster (haki) . Shanks just used a simple regular sword to stop Akainus magma fist and Beckmann a normal gun to stop a admiral who moves at light speed. Here is hoping Lucky Roux puts a gun at Aokijis head next chapter.
And I want to see Yasopp. But the most interesting… Will Shanks somehow reunite in SA with Luffy or will Luffy won't have a hat anymore from here on
Couldn't resist Buggy's face….. again
Shanks crew is so badass because they look and act like pirates could in the real world. None have any devil fruit or other special abilities, except being like real life pirates just probably 100 times stronger / faster (haki) . Shanks just used a simple regular sword to stop Akainus magma fist and Beckmann a normal gun to stop a admiral who moves at light speed. Here is hoping Lucky Roux puts a gun at Aokijis head next chapter.
So true… But still it's to fast to say they have no fruit. Most of us believed WB didn't have one as well.
Shnaks hasn't one but Ben and Co could... But I agree they are more bad-ass. The admirals are pretty scared. Akainu wasn't scared of WB.
But look at this face. He is fearing a ONE_ARMED Shanks! Damn fi Shanks would have 2 arms he would rock the world
Bloodthirsty-> thirst for blood, let's be honest Akainu is one, it doesn't matter whether or not it's 'just' the guy wants to kill. He went behind the scenes and killed people who ran away, he could easily have had squad do that, but no he did it himself.
Pirates are bloodthirsty in their pillaging and battles, they kill innocent people that have done nothing, Akainu wouldn't unless there was a need for it. So both parties are bloodthirsty although they are doing their natural jobs.
So because akainu personally dispatched traitors he's blood thirsty. Seems more like the kind of guy who if he wants something done right, he does it himself. He was the last admiral out on the battlefield if i recall, he purposely stayed behind to guard the platform until it was time for him to make his move. Meanwhile Kizaru eagerly joined the battle fray and even told sentomaru it was ok to destroy some marine battleships if they were in the way of the Pacifista, why isn't he considered bloodthirsty…
To me someone who is blood thirsty is someone who purposely goes out of their way to needlessly shed blood. Akainu hasn't displayed that yet. I feel bad that marines get in the way of his attacks sometimes but even the WB pirates know to get out of this way when WB is on the battlefield or whatever injury they get at his hands is their own fault. Yeah he took take of the cowards running away, he stayed behind while the other admirals were fighting in the war and you would have him divert precious troops just do deal with something he could handle himself? What kind of sense does that make. Throughout this entire war Akainu has moved with purpose and complete dedication to the mission, his goal is to stop piracy and he's very right not to allow a single one of the pirates who boldly stepped onto the home base of Justice to escape. That doesn't make him blood thirsty, it makes him a good marine. Can you imagine where the Marines would be if you took Akainu out of their war, they'd have probably accomplished nothing...
I think it's more surprise than fear… Whitebeard > all, that's for sure. I don't think anyone in the manga ever disputed that.
Luffy HAS to get the hat back. Not only is it his trademark now, but it also represents the promise that was made between them when Luffy was younger. He's supposed to give it back only once he becomes the pirate king. That's why he's always been so hell bent on protecting it, it's a physical representation of his promise and his dream.
The exact promise with regard to the hat was that he'd give it back when he becomes a great pirate. The part about surpassing Shanks and becoming PK is something Luffy swore to do on his own. Luffy's hat should belong to Luffy in the end. There is no reason for him to give it back, especially since it's his symbol. That's why this time the one doing the borrowing will be Shanks. When Luffy feels like he has surpassed him then he can come take it back. By publicly establishing this friendly rivalry Luffy becomes even more famous and gains a strong motivating factor.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/550/06-07/
Read the caption, 100.000 ELITE troops. Thesre are just those who they think could do something against this caliber of opponent. I mean did you honestly think that they just pulled out all the troops stationed around the world and stuffed them onto a single battlefield even after Sengoku said that this was a battle that couldnt be won with sheer numbers?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/548/05/
Heck there are atleast ten thousand troops still avalible outside of Impel down, that if anything proves that not all troops are fighting at Marineford. All the strongest marines of each rank are there. But those are not even close to all Marines.
You really think that Oda would let 100K people die :p
They'd be saved by Aokiji, or stuffing themselves onto boats. A few grunts are probably all the casualites that such an act would claim. Now it would however hurt their pride immensly. But nothing that would "destroy" them.
When WB pirates fodders fodder are fighting, I have hard time believing bunch of marines running before the battle begins would be 'elites' but i will take Odas word for it and that these 'elites' are sadly the best marines could muster up.
Also in Alabasta was the number not close to 1mill? Ohara lost thousands of people and EL there were 10k marines of which I assume shittons died after luffy beat them and they were bombarded.
Anyways 100k sinking was just scenario, so was WB pirates being wiped out, if the scenario of WB pirates being wiped played out, yes l believe Oda would let BB sink the island.
And After BB left ID I'm assuming he destroyed it or at least killed most of their guards and fleet around it.
In the end, this was just scenario that could play out, but shanks is here.
Would the whole blowing up a ship full of refugees be considered bloodthirsty or just doing his job?
Coby finally paid back his dept to Luffy! Now that they're even, they can start fighting for real the next time they meet.
Buggy is priceless, as usual ;)
Ben Beckman has Kizaru on the leash, how badass is that?!
Akainu is totally affected by Shanks intimidation-haki, because Shanks is too wide open towards Akainu if he weren't affected. I mean, he bows down and picks up his hat right in front of him AND with his hat pick up in his one and only hand, where is there a sword to defend any lavapunch? Shanks seems to be way underhyped right now… counting the seconds to the next chapter :)
I can't wait to see Shanks put on the hat and fight. He has to since he only has one arm (no hand to hold the hat). Then ppl would be like omfg a Yonkou is wearing Luffy's hat! (though it's the other way around)
Wow this chapter gave me a fangasm. Shanks is a real gmae changer. The goverment can't afford to fight both him and Bb and the rest of the WB pirates and the same goes for BB who doesn't stand a chance against both the marines and Shanks. It lookes he will be the ultimate winner from this fight if he forces them to stop the way and will become the heir of Whitebeard
@Lordzeb121:
why is it that when Akainu mows down everyone in his path to accomplish his goal he's blood thirsty but when luffy mows down everyone in his path to accomplish his goal he's a great guy…
Pirates are evil, thats the real jist of this war. People live in fear of them. The marines now have an opportunity to erase some of the most feared pirates in the world, why wouldn't they. coby and Tashigi are saying that their objective is over but thats not the case, would you really let tons of world class criminals go just because you killed their leader. The only negative thing i see going on is them letting soldiers die who could otherwise be saved. But seriously its about time the marines showed that they have the same tenacity and passion for their justice as pirates do for their lawlessness...
Because Luffy doesn't kill people, he doesn't hurt kill his own Nakama and because he isn't an asshole
That' a overtly simple view. Some pirates are evil but quite few are not. Did you forget what Jimbei said? There are islands depending on the protection of Whitebeard
This is going to be interesting. I have to go out for a while and I'm curious as to see how the conversation in this thread will change between this time and later. :P
@Cyan:
Would the whole blowing up a ship full of refugees be considered bloodthirsty or just doing his job?
What if Ohara scholars were smuggled amongst them? It was a possibility that was very realistic. He was doing his job.
So true… But still it's to fast to say they have no fruit. Most of us believed WB didn't have one as well.
Shnaks hasn't one but Ben and Co could... But I agree they are more bad-ass. The admirals are pretty scared. Akainu wasn't scared of WB.
But look at this face. He is fearing a ONE_ARMED Shanks! Damn fi Shanks would have 2 arms he would rock the world
Shock not fear, if the war was vs the red haired pirates and Whitebeard suddenly appeared with his crew you can bet that Akainu would make the same face.
@Lordzeb121:
So because akainu personally dispatched traitors he's blood thirsty. Seems more like the kind of guy who if he wants something done right, he does it himself. He was the last admiral out on the battlefield if i recall, he purposely stayed behind to guard the platform until it was time for him to make his move. Meanwhile Kizaru eagerly joined the battle fray and even told sentomaru it was ok to destroy some marine battleships if they were in the way of the Pacifista, why isn't he considered bloodthirsty…
To me someone who is blood thirsty is someone who purposely goes out of their way to needlessly shed blood. Akainu hasn't displayed that yet. I feel bad that marines get in the way of his attacks sometimes but even the WB pirates know to get out of this way when WB is on the battlefield or whatever injury they get at his hands is their own fault. Yeah he took take of the cowards running away, he stayed behind while the other admirals were fighting in the war and you would have him divert precious troops just do deal with something he could handle himself? What kind of sense does that make. Throughout this entire war Akainu has moved with purpose and complete dedication to the mission, his goal is to stop piracy and he's very right not to allow a single one of the pirates who boldly stepped onto the home base of Justice to escape. That doesn't make him blood thirsty, it makes him a good marine. Can you imagine where the Marines would be if you took Akainu out of their war, they'd have probably accomplished nothing...
He was not guarding the platform, he went behind and killed marines that ran, not because they would make everyone else run, but because he wanted to kill them, not discipline or arrest, but kill.
Secondly: OHARA
And like I said, you can be bloodthirsty and do your job, so his job has nothing to do with the fact that he goes out of his way to kill people.
He could arrest the marines that ran, he could chase oharans and then arrest them all. He wanted to take the easy way and finish them off.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/579-78/10
is that shanks on the marine mast?
i think the one thing we all wanna see next chapter is buggy and shanks reunion.
If blowing up a ship that with 99% probability had nothing but innocents on it is considered "doing his job", then the world government deserves to fall.
Lol just because Coby heard a 'single voice' in his head does not mean he has mantra. The voice could of been his conscience.
The "single voice" part is a fairly questionable translation. Steven told me it could easily be read "one by one voices are disappearing."
Seriously, who starts crying if they stop hearing their own conscience?
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/579-78/10
is that shanks on the marine mast?
i think the one thing we all wanna see next chapter is buggy and shanks reunion.
That would be Kizaru.
I thought Mantra is a form of Haki. Maybe not (since I forget if that was ever said).
akaniu is ruthless killing curiel he looked excited mowing down curiel
but seriously the whitebeard pirates have failed in my eyes the only one that struck me as a valiant warrior someone who can handle things was jozu he may have been
frozen by aokiji but seriously hes fast hes strong he fought evenly with aokiji until
getting distracted by you know who the let down marco he wipped crocodile
doflamingo knew he couldnt handle him so he asked croc for back up he has showed the best physical feat and handled the strongest slash in the world without moving
seriously i think oda had him frozen for good reason i do believe he was hard done by events and that if he was about right know akaniu wouldnt be mowing down all the pirates with so much ease
only if ace stayed alive long enough to freeze him
shanks should ask him to join hes crew
The very fact he uses "Voices" at all points to mantra.
The "single voice" part is a fairly questionable translation. Steven told me it could easily be read "one by one voices are disappearing."
Seriously, who starts crying if they stop hearing their own conscience?
That would be Kizaru.
Unless Coby heard the voice of that one marine that Doberman told Smoker and the others to abandon. Farfetched I know.
I am wondering about Kizaru, he puts his hands up, but is he actually scared of Beckman? I mean he always kids around like that. Or can Beckman fire haki bullets, that would be damn strong in a world full of DF users!
I can't wait to see Shanks put on the hat and fight. He has to since he only has one arm (no hand to hold the hat). Then ppl would be like omfg a Yonkou is wearing Luffy's hat! (though it's the other way around)
ha makes me realize that while being within 10 feet of Aikanu, Shanks sheathed his sword and bent over to pick up and is holding a hat. Man does that guy have balls to do that in front of Aikanu
When WB pirates fodders fodder are fighting, I have hard time believing bunch of marines running before the battle begins would be 'elites'
Yeah i never understood that either, had a rant on how stupid that scene was a while back.
but i will take Odas word for it and that these 'elites' are sadly the best marines could muster up.
But then again when you have in mind that the Marines outnumber the pirates atleast 10 to 1 it's not all that suprising to find that there are some troops who cant quite match their quality.
EL there were 10k marines of which I assume shittons died after luffy beat them and they were bombarded.
Nah that Fidel Castro looking VA ( was his name Strawberry? ) saved all of the Marines on that island before they commenced operation bomb the crap out of our island.
Anyways 100k sinking was just scenario, so was WB pirates being wiped out, if the scenario of WB pirates being wiped played out, yes l believe Oda would let BB sink the island.
He could absolutly sink the island, and i'm expecting him to do so. But all that i'm saying is that in the end it would probably just be a shitload of structural damage and embarrasment and not brutal mass death.
An Admiral who is a Light Logia being held at gun point by Beck Beckman…
Just how strong are the Red-Haired Pirates?
Holy shit... :blink: