@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I guess you’re not understanding what you’re reading.
You know what? Maybe I'm not.
If you wouldn't mind explaining your point of view a little more, we could get to the bottom of this.
But you clearly don't want to. I've asked you to elaborate on your thoughts, and you obviously are not interested in doing that.
If they do not apply to current crew mates (there are no former crewmates) then there is no reason to think any of that will apply to future crewmates.
The entire thing is baseless.
You're comparing current crewmates and future crewmates as if though you don't see the big elephant in the room: The series is very, very close to ending. That changes things, does it not?
The final crewmate is not going to be like the current crewmates so far. The proximity to the end of the series does not allow for that.
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
You still agree that Vivi and Jinbe refused Luffy though, right?
In fact, seeing as how Jinbe in particular still came back after Jinbe refused Luffy back then, then I don’t feel obligated to believe that Yamato’s statement of still wanting to join the crew in Chapter 1059 is a red herring after all.
That said, I’m sure I don’t say this as a reality denier either, because if it turns out that Yamato is more like Vivi in that she admits to loving Wano above freedom, and even gives up on Luffy, Oden, and freedom in favor of babysitting in Wano, possibly for the rest of her life, then I’ll admit to being wrong, like I’ve said before.
And that this entire thing was meant to “red herring” us off guard into the twist of Yamato being a tragic character who has to shoulder the burden of never being free at sea. I wouldn’t like it, but would still accept it if that’s the tragic reality Oda is truly portraying with her.
This is all very fair. You do you.
My main point was just that when Vivi and Jinbe refused Luffy, there were many pages dedicated to it. The author treated it with a lot of love and respect.
Unfortunately, Yamato was effectively sidelined at the end of Wano. I feel lucky we even got that single page of her in 1059 explaining her decision. Oda is just not treating her with the same love he gives to other Nakama. :\
I think that just about everything got sidelined, like Carrot not giving her answer about being Zou’s ruler or Zoro not visiting Ryuma’s grave and potentially learning more about his heritage even though he said he’d visit Ryuma’s grave. That’s not even including stuff not explaining about the Lunarians either despite all the showcase King got.
With Vivi, I presume for now, still has going back to Alabasta as her top priority. Yamato is helping defend Wano for now, but still has sailing the seas as a primary interest and hasn’t given up on Luffy either. I also figure that Yamato would be more relevant to the bigger picture in going to Laugh Tale to find lore answers there for Momo while he finally manages to hold down Wano himself. It makes the most sense to me for another life-changing moment to come along which affects both Momo and Yamato.
I always remember that joining the Straw Hats isn’t just some throwaway thing, but an occasion where they play a greater purpose of some sort alongside Luffy, and I think Yamato would be the one who’d have the most to gain as far as where her interests ultimately lie.
You may not see it as Oda’s love per say, but I think it would be to Yamato, Momo, and our benefit if Momo would be the one to inspire her to go to sea to find the answers Oden learned about, so as to better understand the situation with the borders, Pluton, Joy Boy, etc. and I think there are enough examples in the manga to reinforce that Yamato is willing to explore all that for Momo and Oden’s sake seeing as how I don’t see Yamato wanting to throw away Oden’s dream like that and have Oden’s death be in vain.
So then, until the manga proves me wrong, that’s what I think.