(Hi there, Austra-boy)
@Australopithecus:
It was pretty strange. If the four samurai can reach Zou without a vivre card, then so can others(Jack & his cronies). There could be some pattern to the movement of Zou in the sea that makes it predictable when and where it will appear next.
That's a very interesting theory. Could you share your thoughts further ?
@Australopithecus:
In any case, I noticed something very noteworthy.
When Law was directing the Swirly Hats to their next destination(Zou), Jora was there listening to every word he said.
http://i.imgur.com/eHeDTLH.png
She would most likely tell Doflamingo of Momonosuke’s next destination, and Doflamingo could inform Kaido or Jack about Momonosuke’s next destination; but, there is only one problem with this argument: Kaido’s goons were unable to recognize Sanji and his group. However, there is also a reasonable explanation to this:
If Doflamigo tipped Kaido off about Momo's next destination(Zou), then it is possible for Kaido to give an order of capturing Momonosuke without giving details(who or how much is escorting him). In this case, it would reasonably explain why they weren’t able to identify Sanji and Nami.
Momonosuke was in his dragon form at Zou, and that could lead people astray. When Jora came looking for him, she confused him with an ‘eel’(haha). The same confusion could have happened with Sheepshead and Co.
However, we don't know if Jora (and the other members of the Doflamingo Family) are on the same ship as Doflamingo.
We know, thanks to Arlong and Miss Goldenweek, that there are tons of different prisons in One Piece. Also, wouldn't it be risky to transport an entire organization in a same ship ?
Wouldn't it be risky to transport Doflamingo with other prisoners (considering the influence that he has on the criminal world) ?
Plus, Jora is an old lady and doesn't seem to have a special reputation. Why would they take her to Impel Down ?
So assuming Jora isn't with Doflamingo, how would Doflamingo liberate her (if he, himself, is liberated in the first place) ? If he does manage to do it, he would hardly manage to in a week time (his liberation = a week ago ; Luffy's arrival on Zou = present ; Luffy's departure = probably in a day time or two, since Dressrosa only lasted a day ? Or maybe more ?)
All these points make it hard to think that Jora would be able to help them or anything, though the fact that she was listening (was she ? or was she unconscious ?) the conversation is quite suspicious.
And if Doflamingo ever comes back, I doubt he'll have any purpose on the plot (or at least from the SH point of view).
@Australopithecus:
When Caesar was talking about trouble, he seemed to oppose Sanji’s decision of heading somewhere(either following Nami’s group or saving the injured people that Chopper had found).
http://i.imgur.com/6AEKJJa.png
Notice that Sanji did not say the word ‘go’, and yet Caesar agreed to ‘go’ after he pressured him to do what he says. That must mean that Caesar’s complaints about ‘trouble’ was a response to the instruction of ‘going’ somewhere.
I think it is the latter(saving the injured people) because when Sanji was pressuring him to head somewhere, Chopper emerged and started telling him to ‘hurry up’ with following him to save 'them'(the minks presumably).
http://i.imgur.com/UCBke4J.png
I agree with you.
Now the question is ; who are they going against ? And which would be Caesar's role ? Was Caesar given away to Jack in exchange of somebody's (or the entire mink race's) freedom ?
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Wanda refers to the corpses as being "their friends" corpses. However, Ceasar is an hostage, and definitely not a friend. She seems to know Sanji's name, so that implies that she knows them (she probably befriended the Swirly Hats).
Counter-argument ; why would they be presumed dead if they made a deal ? Maybe Sanji told Wanda to give away Ceasar if he came to be defeated ? Or maybe Ceasar used a special gas on them and then left with Jack (it could be Sanji's plan) to avoid a massacre (maybe Jack destroyed Zou because he wanted Ceasar..?). However, Zou was destroyed. So if that theory is true, then Jack didn't respect his promise (exactly like Morgan does, what a coincidence).
@Australopithecus:
Regardless, when Law mentioned Zou for the first time near Caesar, he reacted to that.
http://i.imgur.com/3nnTBAj.png
It could mean something. It could mean nothing. He could also be reacting to being taken away from Dressrosa since that was also what Law was talking about.
Because of the way he reacts, I would pick the second option.
@Australopithecus:
When Caesar starts creating Smile, he does a lot of other experiments. Such experimentation helps him in his path of becoming the best scientist(according to his delusions). Caesar was creating Smile for Doflamingo all this time, and he was okay with it. There is nothing indicating why he wouldn’t be okay with creating Smile for Kaido. Caesar has two choices: 1) Be under the mercy of the Straw Hats, his enemies. 2) Lend his scientific aid to Kaido in order to produce Smiles(assuming he knows it is Kaido who rules Zou).
Since Doflamingo was creating the Smiles for Kaido, then he was already (indirectly) working for Kaido. I don't think he'll have any problems doing that again (especially if Kaido threatens him lol).
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Now I really hope Ceasar hasn't been captured, because that would mean that Sanji failed his mission. And what would have been the point of Punk Hazard's and Dressrosa's arc if Ceasar came back in the hands of Kaido again ?
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@mbaruh:
Oh man, this is going to be awful. We already have a BB. Going to be confusing in discussions.
Yeah…