Why are we assuming that Gear 4 was developed during Time Skip? It probably was. But that's not really necessary.
It's not like he needs to do a lot of training to think of a creative idea. Gears are just ideas. There is a good chance he might have made the gear after Zoro reprimanded him in Punk Hazard.
This would also allow his gear 4 to grow over time like G2 and G3. If he made it during timeskip, he should already have been proficient at using it. That would not only be pretty boring, but also raise various questions about not using it till now.
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Calling it now. Dragon's powers from Loguetown and Gray Terminal were not the result of some Devil Fruit. It was CoC.
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Why are we assuming that Gear 4 was developed during Time Skip? It probably was. But that's not really necessary.
It's not like he needs to do a lot of training to think of a creative idea. Gears are just ideas. There is a good chance he might have made the gear after Zoro reprimanded him in Punk Hazard.
This would also allow his gear 4 to grow over time like G2 and G3. If he made it during timeskip, he should already have been proficient at using it. That would not only be pretty boring, but also raise various questions about not using it till now.We assume Gear 4 was developed during the Timeskip because it was a period focused on training and developing better techniques. Additionally, Luffy developed G2 and G3 as a response to getting curbstomped by Aokiji; in contrast, he hasn't really been tested prior to Doflamingo since the timeskip, giving him little reason to doubt his abilities enough to need to develop something new. The timeskip, on the other hand, was precisely because he wasn't strong enough and needed to hone his skills. That's the perfect impetus to think of a new gear.
It's not a perfect answer, I know, and you're not necessarily wrong. It's just that developing it during the Timeskip makes the most sense.
As for why he hasn't used it yet, the obvious answer is because it's costly and potentially dangerous. To this point, the potential benefits haven't outweighed the costs. Also, shonen law states that you should never unveil a new technique onscreen until you definitely have to. Because drama.
If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life
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He was on an island for 6 months all by himself. He could have additional 5 gears as we speak.
1 per month. So 6 additional.
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We assume Gear 4 was developed during the Timeskip because it was a period focused on training and developing better techniques. Additionally, Luffy developed G2 and G3 as a response to getting curbstomped by Aokiji; in contrast, he hasn't really been tested prior to Doflamingo since the timeskip, giving him little reason to doubt his abilities enough to need to develop something new. The timeskip, on the other hand, was precisely because he wasn't strong enough and needed to hone his skills. That's the perfect impetus to think of a new gear.
It's not a perfect answer, I know, and you're not necessarily wrong. It's just that developing it during the Timeskip makes the most sense.
As for why he hasn't used it yet, the obvious answer is because it's costly and potentially dangerous. To this point, the potential benefits haven't outweighed the costs. Also, shonen law states that you should never unveil a new technique onscreen until you definitely have to. Because drama.
I do agree that developing gear 4 during timeskip makes the most sense.
My point was simply that it's probably too early to dismiss the idea of the gear being developed after timeskip.Calling it now. Dragon's powers from Loguetown and Gray Terminal were not the result of some Devil Fruit. It was CoC.
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I do agree that developing gear 4 during timeskip makes the most sense.
My point was simply that it's probably too early to dismiss the idea of the gear being developed after timeskip.No doubt. Our questions will likely be answered by this time tomorrow.
The real question is how long until Luffy unveils Gear 5, which is based on Fishman Karate and Newkama kenpo with a few suplexes thrown in for good measure.
If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life
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Gear Suplex confirmed.
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Gear 4 = 7x Cavendish.
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Sanji s gona show us his new gaykamakempo!!!!!!! Beast!!!!
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Just joined the thread and read only a few posts, so I'm sorry if I repeated a previous thought.
I think gear 4th will be a burning luffy due to the friction caused by really high speed, and his moves will have fire element. -
But you are saying that G2 was somehow inspired by something in this martial arts despite the fact that there are no similarities. None? To use Soru, all you have to do is kick the ground several times in an instant. That's incredibly simplistic. Luffy stated that he learned everything Rayleigh had to teach in a year and a half. There was no need to continue training you already completed without first improving your main moveset. No one claimed that he didn't incorporate Haki into anything. My argument has nothing to do with personality. Making things personal seems to be some type of trend on AP forums. Try to avoid resorting to Ad Hominems.
I already conceded the point that Soru could not and probably not be gear 2 inspiration. No need to bring up a point already decided.
If Soru is so simplistic then why doesn't everyone use it? Usopp Soru! Hell Zoro should have the body to handle it but have yet to see him do it.
Your statement slightly paraphrased: No one claimed he didn't incorporate Haki.
Your previous statement slightly paraphrased: He spent an entire 6 months doing training separate of Haki.
My Question: How does one do exclusive training separate of Haki yet incorporate Haki in said same training of assumed gears and moves? It sounds to me he was STILL using haki while training those 6 months as well just no help from Rayleigh.This ain't personal. I have no problem with you or anyone else. You pointed out something I wrote. I responded. You responded back…etc. I don't know you and vice versa and that's how it will remain. I felt you were being rude by just making statements with no proof and using words like obvious without proof. If you weren't, my bad. Keep up the posts...just about something else...I tire of this.
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I hope you are joking thats obviously fake
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I just came here to say that i have absolutely no expectations for what gear 4 is gonna be like since it might be something that most of us will not expect at all.
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I just want to say I'm mad hyped for gear 4 and won't be able to sleep until the chapter hits. Probably gonna keep myself from seeing spoilers too.
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I honestly just wished he would have fire just like how he did his Red-Hawk. I just want the idea of Ace being incorporated into Luffy through the passing of the Will of D.
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He will probably do full body haki + g2 someday, but this gear needs to be something independent.
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Some gear 4 theories:
(1) Gear 4 will see Luffy break the fourth wall and use his rubber body to erase the drawings of his opponents. This makes Sanji and Brooke jealous for obvious reasons.
(2) Gear 4 consists of stretching his stomach - thus Luffy inflates like a puffer fish. He then has the ability to fly unpredictably by releasing air through either end of his digestive system. Beware of the rotating speed-punching fart-burp tornado.
(3) Gear 4 is like the One Piece - the real reward is in the journey. Similarly, gear 4 just means that in a fight, having heart is more important than any technique. Gear 4 means that Luffy is now fighting with his heart. [Disclaimer: of course the One Piece is real]
(4) Gear 4 makes use of the stretching heart to pump blood at incredible speeds. This results high-pressure nose bleeds can cut through concrete. What's more, the more you cut Luffy, the more he bleeds on you, cutting you to pieces like a lightsaber disco ball.Combinations may apply - imagine (2) plus (4)! In that case Gear 4 could just be total inner-body control and the resulting techniques.
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Some gear 4 theories:
(1) Gear 4 will see Luffy break the fourth wall and use his rubber body to erase the drawings of his opponents. This makes Sanji and Brooke jealous for obvious reasons.
(2) Gear 4 consists of stretching his stomach - thus Luffy inflates like a puffer fish. He then has the ability to fly unpredictably by releasing air through either end of his digestive system. Beware of the rotating speed-punching fart-burp tornado.
(3) Gear 4 is like the One Piece - the real reward is in the journey. Similarly, gear 4 just means that in a fight, having heart is more important than any technique. Gear 4 means that Luffy is now fighting with his heart. [Disclaimer: of course the One Piece is real]
(4) Gear 4 makes use of the stretching heart to pump blood at incredible speeds. This results high-pressure nose bleeds can cut through concrete. What's more, the more you cut Luffy, the more he bleeds on you, cutting you to pieces like a lightsaber disco ball.Combinations may apply - imagine (2) plus (4)! In that case Gear 4 could just be total inner-body control and the resulting techniques.
You're a genius !
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My theory for Gear 4th is that it will be inspired by Life Return, which Lucci used in his battle with Luffy at Enies Lobby to make his full leopard form a bit more lean. Luffy would be able to use this to both increase the muscles in his body giving him a bit more of a muscular body(though not Nightmare Luffy levels) and also allow him much more control over his stretching, similar to Mr. Fantastic or Plastic Man. Maybe this form is just that, maybe combined with Gear 2nd(Donflamingo commented on Luffy's Gear 2nd speed fast).
The downside will be that after stretching with that much control over his body and muscles will tire his body up, leaving him unable to move for a while similar to Chopper after Monster Point, maybe even with him being unable to control his rubber body for a while, letting his limbs stretch unwillingly for a while.
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Nah. Because Four is Death, Gear Fourth is gonna be Hokuto Shinken.
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Just a few more hours and we'll get it, ooouu yeeeeeeaaahh!!
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You know 4 is a bad omen for death in Japanese culture right??? Luffy is gonna kill doffy :ninja:
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I haven't read through the entire thread, so I apologize if somebody else has already posted this idea.
My idea is an expansion of the theory that Gear 4th will have Luffy somehow make his body more springy and use a fighting style inspired by Bellamy where he is constantly bouncing off of things to gain momentum. A problem with this theory is that if Luffy was fighting in a wide open area where there aren't many walls Gear 4th wouldn't be very useful because he wouldn't have anything to bounce off of. My theory deals with this issue.
During Marineford, it seems that the 3 admirals were able to combine their haki to make a very large barrier to block one of Whitebeards moves (this could have just been stylization, but at this point it's unclear). The following links show this scene:
http://bato.to/read/_/249319/one-piece-digital-colored-comics_v58_ch564_by_no-group/9
http://bato.to/read/_/249319/one-piece-digital-colored-comics_v58_ch564_by_no-group/10I think that Gear 4th will have Luffy manipulating his body somehow to become more elastic and then moving through the air by bouncing off small barriers that he creates with his haki. Since he'll be able to create a barrier anywhere in the air, this will basically let him fly in a way similar to CP9's geppou, except that his momentum will constantly be increasing as he flies, increasing the power of his blows.
During the fight with Doflamingo, Luffy will start off using Gear 4th by bouncing off the bird cage by using haki to harden his feet. As Doflamingo tightens his cage, it will become more and more difficult for him to block Luffy's blows, until he eventually dispels the bird cage entirely to prevent Luffy from bouncing any more. At this point, Luffy will surprise Doflamingo by bouncing off of haki barriers and land the finishing blow.
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Just joined the thread and read only a few posts, so I'm sorry if I repeated a previous thought. I think gear 4th will be a burning luffy due to the friction caused by really high speed, and his moves will have fire element.
Won't this clash too much with Sanji's moves? Not to mention that he already used Red hawk which he didn't call Gear 4.
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I already conceded the point that Soru could not and probably not be gear 2 inspiration. No need to bring up a point already decided.
If Soru is so simplistic then why doesn't everyone use it? Usopp Soru! Hell Zoro should have the body to handle it but have yet to see him do it.
Soru is kicking the floor 10 time in a second. Luffy could do so in gear 2nd speed, others didn't have the speed(and reaction time?). Concept is simple, doing it is hard.
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Soru is kicking the floor 10 time in a second. Luffy could do so in gear 2nd speed, others didn't have the speed(and reaction time?). Concept is simple, doing it is hard.
Which is strange while having a leg master as Sanji in his crew… Even more if the same Sanji was praised for his speed by a Soru user named Khalifa
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My theory, is that gear fourth will be a sort of "impact mode". Named after a impact dial, but inspired by Bellamy. Its where Luffy can absorb damage or attacks, and redirect the force within himself, amplify it making it greater, and release the energy, combining it with his attack. He can also choose to release small amounts of it with every step to make him move faster. As for the downside, the stored energy will begin to tear Luffy's body apart from the inside. Basically making it a time bomb where he has to release all of the energy before he dies from it. Which would be why he had waited all this time to use it. Of course he also can use it while using gear second. Energy capable of being redirected to his muscles, that sounds like something Oda would do.
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Which is strange while having a leg master as Sanji in his crew… Even more if the same Sanji was praised for his speed by a Soru user named Khalifa
Well Luffy is undoubtedly way faster while in gear second(at that time) so kicking the floor 10 times is piece of cake and his body moving can keep up. Since the members of the Cp9 only used it on straight line and couldn't keep up I guess normal people can't do the 10 fast tap without specific training for it and they can't move at that speed normally(or really react to it which explain the straight line).
So while Sanji is faster than Kalifa he would still need training to do it(so would normal Luffy).
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Which is strange while having a leg master as Sanji in his crew… Even more if the same Sanji was praised for his speed by a Soru user named Khalifa
A bunch of pirates are not going to figure military techniques just because they hangout with them for few hours. Luffy is just unique, that's it.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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Isn't Blue Walk pretty much the same thing?
Calling it now. Dragon's powers from Loguetown and Gray Terminal were not the result of some Devil Fruit. It was CoC.
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IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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Give Sanji the slash kick, not even going to try to spell it lol
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A bunch of pirates are not going to figure military techniques just because they hangout with them for few hours. Luffy is just unique, that's it.
Sky Walk is right there as well.
Do not get me wrong and that's not the topic for it.
But Soru or a Rankyaku like move should be a non brainer for post ts Sanji
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(4) Gear 4 makes use of the stretching heart to pump blood at incredible speeds. This results high-pressure nose bleeds can cut through concrete. What's more, the more you cut Luffy, the more he bleeds on you, cutting you to pieces like a lightsaber disco ball.
So Good, i want this to happen
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Blue walk is geppou.
Well, it looks like Geppo, but the effect(short range teleportation) is the same as soru, so it's pretty much the same when used in actual combat.
Calling it now. Dragon's powers from Loguetown and Gray Terminal were not the result of some Devil Fruit. It was CoC.
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Well, it looks like Geppo, but the effect(short range teleportation) is the same as soru, so it's pretty much the same when used in actual combat.
Completely different techniques. Geppo is kicking on the air or water as if it's solid. Soru is moving at intense speed to the point that your typical observer thinks the user disappeared.
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Sky Walk is right there as well.
Do not get me wrong and that's not the topic for it.
But Soru or a Rankyaku like move should be a non brainer for post ts Sanji
I get your point, but if Sanji picks on this techniques easily, it cheapens the technique. Marines spend weeks if not months learning. A pirate cooking on his captain's ship won't know that easily unless he was specifically trained.
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Who knows exactly what kind of training Sanji got from Zeff? Zeff was very experienced with the fighting techniques used in Grand Line, I wouldn't be surprised to find that he gave Sanji some pointers on rokushiki even as a kid.
There are good reasons for why Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro have picked up so easily on the crazy fighting techniques used in the One Piece world. Namely, these reasons are Garp, Zeff, and Koshiro.
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True that. Still hope for them. Soru would fit Sanji very well and a Rankyaku like move but with Iva's galaxy wink instead of cutting properties are my wishes for the future.
But first Sanji has to return :cwy:
And now enough off topic
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Give Sanji the slash kick, not even going to try to spell it lol
Still weaker than Kiriyu Kirikugi
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True that. Still hope for them. Soru would fit Sanji very well and a Rankyaku like move but with Iva's galaxy wink instead of cutting properties are my wishes for the future.
But first Sanji has to return :cwy:
And now enough off topic
What about Tekkai for his legs? Learn from Vergo fight, perhaps?
Though if only one person could learn Tekkai in the Strawhats then it would be Zoro.Edit: If Gear 4 is like Nightmare Luffy, Doflamingo is in trouble.
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Really? Just because defeated zombie Oars? Remember, Doffy cutted a leg to another giant effortlessly :)…
