What if Luffy got some steroids from Hody Jones?:ninja:
Or that gear 4 was inspired from him. Steroids Hody has power and speed at the same time.
What if Luffy got some steroids from Hody Jones?:ninja:
Or that gear 4 was inspired from him. Steroids Hody has power and speed at the same time.
@DHL:
The chapter for Gear 2nd was numbered 387. Gear 4 chapter is 783.
That's the interesting part.
What's even more interesting is gear 3rds chapter.
Chapter is numbered 421.
4.2.1
It will go from gear 4 to gear 1 for Luffys next one.
So, according to your theory, in chapter 837 or 873, we will see Gear 1.
well, what about "Gear R" ?
What on earth could Gear 4 be? Gear 2 allows his limbs to move faster due to directed blood flow (rubber heart and vessals) and Gear 3 has Luffy blow air into his limbs to expand their size and increase power. We've seen the combination of 2 and 3 (against Moria) so…..I'm stumped.
I like that it showcases Doflamingo is a threat - Luffy was pushed to his limits when he first introduced the Gears, and now that they've become so effortless they're just part of his regular movement....tables will be turned.
he is talking about marineford..the "battle at the summit"
Ah, thanks. The picture of him literally falling and that awful translation had me confused.
It is time to Luffy to unleash the Gear 4. The final Gear.
He will show the never seen power of the Golden Rectangle
I gotta admit, that's true. However, in the past there has been a bomb to find, shadows to retrieve, people to save, a ship/escape route to find … It didn't happen every time and not everyone was involved, but at least it felt like the rest of the crew was doing something until the end (at least that's how I remember those chapters - maybe reading them again would prove me wrong and I've simply changed my expectations over time). Whereas here the Birdcage is seemingly unstoppable, the Smile factory is already done for, and the action is pretty much over. So it reallys feels like they're going to join Fujitora on the picnic bench, which makes the device a bit forced for my taste.
I know everyone did their share and had their time to shine, it's just that I don't like the idea that suddenly they're going to sit passively. Hopefully Oda has more in store that won't be the case.
The crew didn't do anything in those past situations. At all. They let Luffy do his thing. It's always been that way.
You should re-read those chapters and see for yourself.
Holy shit - mangastream's translations is so awful but still better than mangareadtoday's. Mangapanda did a better job in using the english language (as far as I can tell). Too bad I got spoiled this week by twitter again otherwise I would wait until monday for ESJ
well lets look at this this way.
gear 2: pumping your blood in your veins to it's limit, making it rush very fast, using his rubber powers so his heart wont explode. getting real fast.
gear 3: using your rubber powers so your bones can enlarge with air or smth without breaking / shattering them.
so gear 4 should be something related to using your body to its limit, adjusting it and taking advantage of your rubber body. i honestly don't know what else can he do to his body.
Holy shit - mangastream's translations is so awful but still better than mangareadtoday's. Mangapanda did a better job in using the english language (as far as I can tell). Too bad I got spoiled this week by twitter again otherwise I would wait until monday for ESJ
Haven't read mangareader's translation, but stream did it better than panda. "Grizzly knuckle".. Yeah.
I think we can state with a fair degree of certainty that Gear Fourth will not just be some Gear Second/Gear Third/Haki mashup.
You know, since we've already seen that quite a bit post-timeskip.
well lets look at this this way.
gear 2: pumping your blood in your veins to it's limit, making it rush very fast, using his rubber powers so his heart wont explode. getting real fast.
gear 3: using your rubber powers so your bones can enlarge with air or smth without breaking / shattering them.so gear 4 should be something related to using your body to its limit, adjusting it and taking advantage of your rubber body. i honestly don't know what else can he do to his body.
Vulcanization seems to be a popular theory. It wouldn't be as exciting as the other gears, but that doesn't really matter, when he has 3 gears he can switch between on a whim.
The chapter itself was showcasing Luffy's limits. He's a relatively smaller character so his main issue is usually strength against the other higher-tiers. His speed (gear 2) on the otherhand has been portrayed at usually the other end of the spectrum; and he usually uses that speed to gain momentum/cause more damage. Gear 3 is sort of like his shortcut into causing more damage on the level of the higher tiers but he's even slower than other relative fighters unless he overwhelms. Gear Fourth is most likely going to counter that somehow by "overcoming his limits" (said at the end of the chapter). I think it's going to involve less of his limbs/body parts extending, and him fighting at close range to sustain initially generated force. So a type of compressing/high speed combat to maintain force and speed.
Someone predicted that since Gear 2nd affects the blood, and Gear 3rd affects the bone, any future gears would be akin to directly enhancing muscles. Hell, now that I think about it, there's something called neural plasticity in which the brain restructures itself to adapt in certain situations. Luffy might gain a "hyper-intuition" personality and use his gears and haki in much more efficient/damaging ways.
Also what i like about this chapter is don is above luffy be it fighting wise and when they talking he above him in the air .
Going to be great to see him get knock down both ways .
So Gear 4 is going to be like Gear 2, but with even more power? And with an even bigger compensation in the form of loosing even more life-time than before while using it? Isn't this exactly what Lufffy used against Moria, when he used Gear 2 and 3 at the same time? I hope Gear 4 will be more than that.
Never was expecting a Gear 4 found it kinda stupid a little hype to see what Oda has planned though. I see some people mentioning a Gear 2nd and 3rd mash up didn't he use that against Moriah ? But Chopper said it was too much for his body to take since he's been training maybe he can use that flawlessly now.. Just have to wait and see.
Why is Cavendish so great ? I will never understand. If it wasn't for the cliffhanger, it would be his chapter.
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Somehow I knew this arc would have screetime for Mr 3
great chapter was not expecting gear 4
You know people have had 9 years to come up with theories on gear 4! NINE FRICKIN YEARS! Damn does time fly. The hype is real for sure. This is big so I just need to wait for 2 weeks before we will really know??? Pffffft, that's nothing.
@DHL:
The chapter for Gear 2nd was numbered 387. Gear 4 chapter is 783.
That's the interesting part.
What's even more interesting is gear 3rds chapter.
Chapter is numbered 421.
4.2.1
It will go from gear 4 to gear 1 for Luffys next one.
4.2.1…
Where's 3?
Half-life 3 confirmed.
Basically, we're looking at Luffy's equivalent of Super Saiyan 2 here.
We saw in this chapter that his Gear Second attacks lack the stopping power needed to really injure Doflamingo, and his Gear 3rd attacks are too slow to land at all.
Some kind of technique that allows Luffy to directly control the size and proportions of his muscles sounds right on the money here.
Luffy's already more toned, muscularly, after the timeskip, it would make sense for development of that kind of technique to lead to such inadvertent manscaping.
The crew didn't do anything in those past situations. At all. They let Luffy do his thing. It's always been that way.
You should re-read those chapters and see for yourself.
I didn't mean that in the sense that they should intervene in Luffy's fight, of course not.
Instead it's the timing that is killing things for me. See, I went back and checked Enies Lobby : in chapters 419 to 420, Luffy is shown to be battling Rob Lucci and all the while Franky, Usopp & co are busy saving Robin from Spandam. And after they retrieved her, in 421, they must face the incoming Buster Call while Luffy is still fighting. That's what I meant: they're busy and actively trying to improve the situation.
Compare Dressrosa now, where all of the preliminary battles are over, the factory is already destroyed and no-one can do jack against the Birdcage. All that's left for the crew & allies is the spectator bench, they're passive. That is what I dislike in the way Oda staged the action.
Gear 4 is a Body in Gear 3 form but with the Speed of light
Haven't read mangareader's translation, but stream did it better than panda. "Grizzly knuckle".. Yeah.
Who cares about attack names? Not the accuracy of the translation is my problem but the use of the english language.
MS: "YOu re the one that's been the pain in my ass"
MP: "You re getting in my way"
Title of the chapter is "you re in the way/In my way"
Luffy/Doflamingo action and more of our beautiful Cavendish, what's not to like? Pretty good chapter, I'm excited to see Gear Fourth.
So luffy and doflamingo both have taken lot of damage already before this final showdown and they acknowledged it so hopefully once luffy solos dd now , no one jumps in and says " but law … " . Luffy > DD will get fixed for sure something which at one point (few months ago ) was being denied by many .
As for gear 4 , well whatever it be but let that not be enough to bring down dd . I mean , i hope luffy would have to demonstrate something much more than gear 4 to take dd down . DD should also be having many tricks up his sleeve as of yet.
Hope DD is not shown as an easy cakewalk and lives up to his reputation.
So far DD did so only on 1 occasion and that was after taking in the gamma knife.
Expecting an extreme extreme diff fight just like luffy vs lucci but with something much more than that (i mean creatively ).
Alright now its upto you oda.
In Gear 4, Luffy grows a lot of red hair all over his body and a tail.
Who cares about attack names? Not the accuracy of the translation is my problem but the use of the english language.
MS: "YOu re the one that's been the pain in myass"
MP: "You re getting in my way"
Yes? They are both correct and fit the context. And Panda had way more mistakes (as always) - naming the attacks wrongly was just one of them.
Panda always tries to translate in the most formal way possible, but they don't know how to do it properly.
best part of the chapter is wadatsumi joining jinbe–>wadatsumi for next nakama :ninja:
Yes? They are both correct and fit the context. And Panda had way more mistakes (as always) - naming the attacks wrongly was just one of them.
Panda always tries to translate in the most formal way possible, but they don't know how to do it properly.
But MS missed the context of the chapter title: "You're in my way"
Was Doffy working with or wanting to work with Croc? He seemed more concerned/shocked that Croc was defeated more than some of his own crew lol.
Regarding Gear 4, the Dragonball fan in me doesn't want it to be another simple transformation. Like others have said, this is his ssj2 moment.
I can see him probably getting a little taller. I just want him to stop using bazooka like moves already. This chapter made me officially tired of Gear 3rd. I hate it now. It seems usless to me imo
This completely depends on how you look at it, though? Luffy entered an alliance with Law, and to keep advancing Law demands Doffy to get taken out of the way. So, yeah, Doffy IS in Luffy's way.
I'll try my best not to argue semantics, but this^ all hinges on that very odd moment where Luffy stated his explicit intentions to be free and go on adventures as they happe- I mean, seek out the Super Bosses of the world and beat them.
It isn't really like with Vivi, where Luffy was doing everything as a friendly favor; when Law asked "Luffy, do you want to team up in elaborate machinations to take out the geopolitical heavy hitters?" the reply was "sure, I was gonna take out the geopolitical heavy hitters anyway eventually, even though-as far and I and the readersknow- this is in no way a requirenment for finding Raftel"
Luffy didn't need to go poke Doflamingo to continue his adventure, he didn't need the alliance with Law to proceed either, and his speech here makes about as much sense as if he'd berated Crocodile for hindering his progress. Oda has done the "Luffy is in wrong place at wrong time and villain obstructs his path" angle many times; this is not one where it applies.
Gear 4 will look like nightmare luffy with full body haki. Remember this post
Chapter 784: Cloudy with a chance of Red Storm !
I didn't mean that in the sense that they should intervene in Luffy's fight, of course not.
Instead it's the timing that is killing things for me. See, I went back and checked Enies Lobby : in chapters 419 to 420, Luffy is shown to be battling Rob Lucci and all the while Franky, Usopp & co are busy saving Robin from Spandam. And after they retrieved her, in 421, they must face the incoming Buster Call while Luffy is still fighting. That's what I meant: they're busy and actively trying to improve the situation.
Compare Dressrosa now, where all of the preliminary battles are over, the factory is already destroyed and no-one can do jack against the Birdcage. All that's left for the crew & allies is the spectator bench, they're passive. That is what I dislike in the way Oda staged the action.
I think it was purposefully constructed that way
It has been mentioned throughout the arc that Luffy's job is to save the day. Basically every major character has hyped it up; it's his job. Oda even cleared all other fights to showcase this point.
I think there's something to it, what exactly I'm not to sure. Patience is a virtue though.
best part of the chapter is wadatsumi joining jinbe–>wadatsumi for next nakama :ninja:
Well someone has to fight Sanjuan Wolf…
But MS missed the context of the chapter title: "You're in my way"
True, but you implied Panda had the overall better translation.
Honestly the MS translation was also pretty bad in some pages, but to me the attack names just stuck out.
@Daz:
I'll try my best not to argue semantics, but this^ all hinges on that very odd moment where Luffy stated his explicit intentions to be free and go on adventures as they happe- I mean, seek out the Super Bosses of the world and beat them.
It isn't really like with Vivi, where Luffy was doing everything as a friendly favor; when Law asked "Luffy, do you want to team up in elaborate machinations to take out the geopolitical heavy hitters?" the reply was "sure, I was gonna take out the geopolitical heavy hitters anyway eventually, even though-as far and I and the readersknow- this is in no way a requirenment for finding Raftel"Luffy didn't need to go poke Doflamingo to continue his adventure, he didn't need the alliance with Law to proceed either, and his speech here makes about as much sense as if he'd berated Crocodile for hindering his progress. Oda has done the "Luffy is in wrong place at wrong time and villain obstructs his path" angle many times; this is not one where it applies.
Luffys got a hero complex. Doffy just pointed it out.
Two weeks from now- moments before spoilers arrive- I expect a Best Of featuring the best theories on what Gear 4 will be. I expect great things from you, AP.
im liking cabbage more now. dude's a bro.
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couldn't help but laugh at this line
That was a good action chapter. I'll reserve judgement on Gear 4, all depends on execution.
Other than that, I like that simple trading of blows, just like last chapter, this one was a more straightforward action chapter, while last week there was more about Doflamingo's character.
Luffys got a hero complex. Doffy just pointed it out.
So the speech and chapter title are not to be interpreted as a straightforward badass comeback for Luffy before his power up? Luffy is supposed to make no sense, and the title is supposed to refference his warped mentality?
I wonder how many chapters Dofla will put up a fight before his defeat
@Daz:
I'll try my best not to argue semantics, but this^ all hinges on that very odd moment where Luffy stated his explicit intentions to be free and go on adventures as they happe- I mean, seek out the Super Bosses of the world and beat them.
It isn't really like with Vivi, where Luffy was doing everything as a friendly favor; when Law asked "Luffy, do you want to team up in elaborate machinations to take out the geopolitical heavy hitters?" the reply was "sure, I was gonna take out the geopolitical heavy hitters anyway eventually, even though-as far and I and the readersknow- this is in no way a requirenment for finding Raftel"Luffy didn't need to go poke Doflamingo to continue his adventure, he didn't need the alliance with Law to proceed either, and his speech here makes about as much sense as if he'd berated Crocodile for hindering his progress. Oda has done the "Luffy is in wrong place at wrong time and villain obstructs his path" angle many times; this is not one where it applies.
That is not really so before luffy join with Law he had a connection to 3 of the 4 super bosses of the world .
Also one would think all big name pirates are in luffy way cause they not going stick around and watch him get the OP.
luffy has always been do what he wants when he wants , Doffy just happen to be in his way this time.
In Gear 4 Luffy turns into Mr. Fantastic from the Fantastic 4. Check mate.
@Don:
Summary by Aohige
! Chapter 783 "You're in my way"
Wadatsumi wants to go with Jinbe
! Leo sees the explosion and wants to go help, but Kyros and Robin advise against it.
Even Law, who was also a shichibukai, was beaten to pulp, they would only pull Luffy's leg if they did.
! They saw Law because Luffy carried him and leaped out of the explosion.
He tosses Law towards Robin, and while she was surprised to see his arm cut off, spreads Spider Net and catches him.
! Dofla comes chasing him, and shoots Bullet Strings to try and finish off Law. Luffy attacks him with Hawk Whip, but too late to stop the bullets.
The bullets rain down on Robin and Law.
! Cavendish arrives in the nick of time to deflect the bullets and protect Law.
Luffy yells to Caven to take the others to safety. At first he wants to join Luffy's fight, but Luffy yells out that he's counting on him.
Caven can't deny the wishes of his fans! If Strawhat Luffy is to be his fan, he will oblige!
! He rushes to call for Barto to help evacuate them and Law to safety.
Meanwhile Leo tries to stitch Law's wounds together and have the princess heal him.
! Dofla tells Luffy to step out of the way, let him end Law's suffering, but Luffy replies he'll have to beat him to get past.
Luffy tries to attack with rushes of punches, but Dofla easily dodges and tells Luffy while his punches are fast, they lack the power behind them.
He counters with OverHeat, damaging Luffy, while he remembers when he first heart of the Straw Hat Luffy…
! When he heard from Trebol that Crocodile was taken down by a marine Captain, he didn't believe it.
Then he saw the increase of Straw Hat Luffy's bounty, and started investigating.
! Now Luffy has survived the Marineford War and came all the way here to Dressrosa.
While he praises the young pirate, he kicks him down through the floor of the castle and the impact reaches even the lower floors.
! Law regains consciousness, and tells Cavendish to leave him here. He spent 13 years chasing Dofla, he wants to see the end of it himself.
Law tells him that if Straw Hat loses here, I should die here. I'm the one that dragged Luffy into this...!
! Robin tries to tell Law that the alliance was on equal grounds, and Luffy is here on his own will, but Law is adamant to stay.
Cavendish realizes it's impossible to convince him, and sits down next to Law. He tells Robin to take the others to safety.
Caven tells Law that he won't hear the wishes of a suicidal man. I will stay, and if you are going to die, it will be after me.
! Luffy attacks Dofla with Grizzly Magnum, but easily countered.
Dofla asks Luffy how long are you going to take to kill me? One hour is the time limit until the birdcage is completely closed.
In less than half an hour there will be people dying. Elderly and babies will be the first to go. And in 40 minutes you will hear their screams reaching this palace.
It's all your fault. If you didn't come here, this nation would be in peace.
! Luffy denies that claim as a facade.
Dofla says he's getting in his way all for heroics, but Luffy returns no, YOU are the one getting in MY way.
I won't let anyone die on my watch.
! Both you and this birdcage of yours is getting in MY way.
! Gear........ Fourth.NO CHAPTER NEXT WEEK !!!
HERE WE GO! Doffy is about to get his ass whooped by the most attented epic attack.
It got me on chills while readin' next to some teammates.. They was like: WTF HAPPENED TO U SUDDENLY
THANKS ODA!