Wondering btw how Dofla will react if he finds out that it was actually a Caesar who killed Monet in PH.
He'll just be angrier at Law since he orchestrated it. Caesar is too valuable to Dofla for him to ever actually hurt him.
Wondering btw how Dofla will react if he finds out that it was actually a Caesar who killed Monet in PH.
He'll just be angrier at Law since he orchestrated it. Caesar is too valuable to Dofla for him to ever actually hurt him.
He'll just be angrier at Law since he orchestrated it. Caesar is too valuable to Dofla for him to ever actually hurt him.
Most likely. Im pretty sure that will come up in some point, possibly contrasting how Doflamingo actually cared for her. It wouldn't have made any sense to mention her in this chapter unless she had quite important role at some point.
It's like people forget Momo didn't eat a SMILE.
Or that he explained why he fears dofla already.
They had 200M. Idoubt they would have spend more than 20M on food and fuel.
I know that's why I said "We don't know how much they used, if it all, half, or just a dent of that treasure." I was covering all angles there.
Has Kaido been revealed yet? starts crying man-tears
So…will the Caribou covers finally end??
What can we expect this week?
I think tomorrow may be actual final week with Caribou crying on X.Drake's ship while his crew and the granny just watch them sail off.
So…will the Caribou covers finally end??
What can we expect this week?
I think tomorrow may be actual final week with Caribou crying on X.Drake's ship while his crew and the granny just watch them sail off.
Nah, we probably still have at least 3 more chapters
well, in terms of power yea but he for whatever reason oda decided wasnt so i just leave him out of it….. also yea, kid, law and luffy were the main displayed ones but basil, drake and apoo all were close in bounty so i've always put em up there as well.
I am willing to wager that Kid, Luffy, Law & Zoro are all stronger than every other Supernova out there. So having 3 of the 4 strongest is more than enough and not really needed for Drake to join them. And as you and I agree, power wise, Sanji would be a Supernova in power but not bounty/name which is what really matters, even though he's been quite a disappointment post-timeskip. Though I have a feeling his redemption could be quite exceptional.
I like the idea of Drake joining a Yonko, I don't want all the Supernovas all making alliances but some having their own methods instead. Drake being a double agent marine or really being on Kaido's side is far more interesting to me than him joining the Strawheart alliance. Though this is a subject on preference, so to each his own.
He's scared of his master plan failing.
How do you know this? Law seemed pretty certain that Kaido would crush him and he knows a good amount about him.
i'm thinking it will end sometime this volume (chapter 723 - chapter 732-34) my assumption atleast
I dont know if this was mentioned already, but this is X.Drake here, right?
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I dont know if this was mentioned already, but this is X.Drake here, right?
What? how are you seen X-drake in there?
What? how are you seen X-drake in there?
It looks like Drake..?
Seems to me he has two weapons an axe and a sword (used in Sabaody). And that sitting position would be for someone like Drake (probs the boss of this island).
And given that we saw him appearing in the cover page now, I'm sure thats him there.
It looks like Drake..?
Seems to me he has two weapons an axe and a sword (used in Sabaody). And that sitting position would be for someone like Drake (probs the boss of this island).
And given that we saw him appearing in the cover page now, I'm sure thats him there.
he had a 4-blade axe how can you see that there and he doesn't even have drake's hair
I am willing to wager that Kid, Luffy, Law & Zoro are all stronger than every other Supernova out there. So having 3 of the 4 strongest is more than enough and not really needed for Drake to join them. And as you and I agree, power wise, Sanji would be a Supernova in power but not bounty/name which is what really matters, even though he's been quite a disappointment post-timeskip. Though I have a feeling his redemption could be quite exceptional.
I like the idea of Drake joining a Yonko, I don't want all the Supernovas all making alliances but some having their own methods instead. Drake being a double agent marine or really being on Kaido's side is far more interesting to me than him joining the Strawheart alliance. Though this is a subject on preference, so to each his own.
How do you know this? Law seemed pretty certain that Kaido would crush him and he knows a good amount about him.
maybe so, havent given much thought to it, but its still a yonkou's army, the more stronger people the easier it "should" be.
also, we still have Urouge, Capone and Bonney, so they could be on some yonkou's crew too but an alliance of some sort no matter the method is necessary; whether it be a spy for the marines, a yonkou alliance or a pirate affiliation barring the yonkou.
plus, kid's alliance is as of now still different from law's alliance, so while similar the plans to me are whats important.
he had a 4-blade axe how can you see that there and he doesn't even have drake's hair
An axe can change over time, I think..?
And he's probably wearing a his hat there.
Come on, that person looks somewhat important there but never reappeared.
Isn't it easier to see that Oda sneaked in Drake there like a clever hint (he has quite a lot of this, no?), than to just say "No thats not Drake"..?
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And he seems certainly in charge of the factory. I am quite convinced that that's Drake.
Wow! Clever! You rock Oda! etc etc
It looks like Drake..?
Seems to me he has two weapons an axe and a sword (used in Sabaody). And that sitting position would be for someone like Drake (probs the boss of this island).
And given that we saw him appearing in the cover page now, I'm sure thats him there.
Do you think that Caribou would have been able to eat the factory with Drake inside?
I mean how many characters in One Piece wields an axe and a sword, and is in charge of Kaido's weapon factory?
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Do you think that Caribou would have been able to eat the factory with Drake inside?
That's chapter 701's cover….
Didn't it take like 20 more chapters for Caribou to eat the factory?
An axe can change over time, I think..?
And he's probably wearing a his hat there.Come on, that person looks somewhat important there but never reappeared.
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And he seems certainly in charge of the factory. I am quite convinced that that's Drake.
Wow! Clever! You rock Oda! etc etc
okay I won't even respond to the part with the changing of the axe over time.. but why would he wear a hat in there, don't defend the factory, get out there before he is eaten and then attack caribou without his hat??
okay I won't even respond to the part with the changing of the axe over time.. but why would he wear a hat in there, don't defend the factory, get out there before he is eaten and then attack caribou without his hat??
Okay. Drake's axe didn't look all that special 2 years ago. What I'm saying is Not: Axe changes shape over time.
I'm saying you can always get a new axe in 2 years time.
Oda was keeping Drake for a surprise naturally. He was the highlight of the last two chapters! You don't just get the big card out from the get-go…
But I'm saying Oda did manage to plant a hint there.
Hope someone asks this in SBS and Oda clears it up later. Probably in Volume 73.
Does the hat really matter? He can wear it, not wear it anyhow he likes. But this is Oda's special hint, I'm telling ya.
So it may not be obvious to you. But I'm sure as hell convinced.
That's chapter 701's cover….
Didn't it take like 20 more chapters for Caribou to eat the factory?
But you said Drake is inside the factory, are you saying that he got out the fabric and didn't notice the disturbance on the island?
But you said Drake is inside the factory, are you saying that he got out the fabric and didn't notice the disturbance on the island?
When did I say Drake is inside the factory? That picture shows the fact that Drake was in the factory.
Come on, you don't always consider the logics and all that with these hints planted by Oda.
If he's there he's there.
What was he doing all this time and appeared just in time now at chapter 725 and 727? Was he eaten by Caribou? Why didn't he stop the rebels? Why appear now??
Do we really care..? It's just a clever hint.
Okay. Drake's axe didn't look all that special 2 years ago. What I'm saying is Not: Axe changes shape over time.
I'm saying you can always get a new axe in 2 years time.Oda was keeping Drake for a surprise naturally. He was the highlight of the last two chapters! You don't just get the big card out from the get-go…
But I'm saying Oda did manage to plant a hint there.
Hope someone asks this in SBS and Oda clears it up later. Probably in Volume 73.Does the hat really matter? He can wear it, not wear it anyhow he likes. But this is Oda's special hint, I'm telling ya.
So it may not be obvious to you. But I'm sure as hell convinced.
how is a 4-bladed axe not special?? and oda answers only important questions like the logia-penis-questions:ninja:
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When did I say Drake is inside the factory? That picture shows the fact that Drake was in the factory.
Come on, you don't always consider the logics and all that with these hints planted by Oda.
If he's there he's there.
What was he doing all this time and appeared just in time now at chapter 725 and 727? Was he eaten by Caribou? Why didn't he stop the rebels? Why appear now??Do we really care..? It's just a clever hint.
he was probably called by some of kaidos soldiers to help them against caribou
how is a 4-bladed axe not special?? and oda answers only important questions like the logia-penis-questions:ninja:
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he was probably called by some of kaidos soldiers to help them against caribou
Lol yeah…those cheesy joke questions...I think he chooses them to be published on purpose.
So he absolutely didn't know anything about this island. Was far away. But got a call so he hurried his way to the island and put an end to everything..?
The pre-time skip Drake was last seen on this very island. Drake attacked the then-boss of this island. I'm sure Drake is now in charge of this island.
When did I say Drake is inside the factory? That picture shows the fact that Drake was in the factory.
Come on, you don't always consider the logics and all that with these hints planted by Oda.
If he's there he's there.
What was he doing all this time and appeared just in time now at chapter 725 and 727? Was he eaten by Caribou? Why didn't he stop the rebels? Why appear now??Do we really care..? It's just a clever hint.
You said this dude is Drake, he's seating on the factory,so are you saying that Drake went outside the factory or that Drake got almost eaten by Caribou?
That story doesn't take more than 5 hours, it goes accordingly to the main story line, so is either Drake was inside or Drake wasn't inside
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Lol yeah…those cheesy joke questions...I think he chooses them to be published on purpose.
So he absolutely didn't know anything about this island. Was far away. But got a call so he hurried his way to the island and put an end to everything..?
The pre-time skip Drake was last seen on this very island. Drake attacked the then-boss of this island. I'm sure Drake is now in charge of this island.
where did i say he wasn't on the island
where did i say he wasn't on the island
I don't think you mentioned your thoughts on his location. So you are saying Drake was on this island somewhere but nowhere near the factory the village and Caribou?
Come on, that seat up there in the factory looks perfect as Drake's seat.
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You said this dude is Drake, he's seating on the factory,so are you saying that Drake went outside the factory or that Drake got almost eaten by Caribou?
That story doesn't take more than 5 hours, it goes accordingly to the main story line, so is either Drake was inside or Drake wasn't inside
Okay. I'm saying Drake made it out sometimeonlyodaknows.
I don't really care what was going on with him as long as he was there in that picture and is now being a total badass.
I don't think you mentioned your thoughts on his location. So you are saying Drake was on this island somewhere but nowhere near the factory the village and Caribou?
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Okay. I'm saying Drake made it out sometimeonlyodaknows.
I don't really care what was going on with him as long as he was there in that picture and is now being a total badass.
ok to end this discussion pls pls look closely at this guy on the seat it isn't drake and it will never be
This guy looks more like Jinbe to me..I think it's him.
ok to end this discussion pls pls look closely at this guy on the seat it isn't drake and it will never be
What makes you think its not Drake? I mean who would be sitting at that position in Kaido's weapon factory, with an axe and a sword by his side?
That dude sure as hell looks like Drake.
Will…wait...for...SBS (hopefully). Perhaps I should send in one myself...
What makes you think its not Drake? I mean who would be sitting at that position in Kaido's weapon factory, with an axe and a sword by his side?
That dude sure as hell looks like Drake.Will…wait...for...SBS (hopefully). Perhaps I should send in one myself...
if it wouldn't take the space of a really important question like a penisjoke about doflamingo i would really wish that your question would be answered to get you out of your dreamworld
Okay. I'm saying Drake made it out sometimeonlyodaknows.
I don't really care what was going on with him as long as he was there in that picture and is now being a total badass.
So he made it out… why didn't he took Caribou out before he ate the factory or before Scotch got there?
So he made it out… why didn't he took Caribou out before he ate the factory or before Scotch got there?
He went for a really really long toilet break. Of course this island has only one toilet which is conveniently isolated on the top of the mountain and naturally the line was really long.
Okay, giving up arguing about this…just putting it there and if its just me that thinks Oda actually gave a clever hint of Drake's fantastic appearance, then thats fine.
Didn't try to apply more logic, and I was just excited about this find and didn't think we require a very very good explanation of who how when where what why to back these kinds of things up.
He went for a really really long toilet break. Of course this island has only one toilet which is conveniently isolated on the top of the mountain and naturally the line was really long.
So are you saying that Drake an ex-marine, worst generation pirate and most likely a Yonkou commander doesn't posses Observation Haki?
So are you saying that Drake an ex-marine, worst generation pirate and most likely a Yonkou commander doesn't posses Observation Haki?
Why would he be using an observation Haki in his toilet break.
Okay I'm sorry if I made an imaginary/stupid discovery I was really excited about and wasted so much of everyone's time.
Why would he be using an observation Haki in his toilet break.
But there were a lot of revolutionaries yelling on the Island, I'd assume that Drake would have heard them the same way that Scotch knew what was going on.
Sorry about all that
Are we sure Drake was using an axe? That looked a lot more like a mace then an axe back on Sandy. Also, at that size, wouldn't we be getting into halberd?
Also, that tiny blot has no distinguishing features outside the weapon. Trying to claim that the character is X-drake is pure conjecture.
maybe so, havent given much thought to it, but its still a yonkou's army, the more stronger people the easier it "should" be.
also, we still have Urouge, Capone and Bonney, so they could be on some yonkou's crew too but an alliance of some sort no matter the method is necessary; whether it be a spy for the marines, a yonkou alliance or a pirate affiliation barring the yonkou.
plus, kid's alliance is as of now still different from law's alliance, so while similar the plans to me are whats important.
No one is saying it's easier. But it's quite fair to assume that Luffy's crew when you take out the captain is superior to the other 8 Supernova captains. If someone were to give me a choice to protect me from a Yonko, and it was between, Sanji, Law, Zoro, Luffy or Kid, Apoo, Hawkins, Killer.. which side would you honestly pick? Because for me, it would be a pretty easy choice. Law might also have a plan that helps "even" the odds a bit against a Yonko, we do not know so far. He seems one of the very rare characters in the series along with Doflamingo that uses any sort of plan rather than rely on I'm going to get stronger now that I fight you or luck.. or both.
I do not quite understand what you mean with one alliance being different from the other.
By the way, in no way am I saying that Apoo or Hawkins are in any way weak or ok here. I am certain they are monsters esp after the time skip, I just see the 4 (Kid, Law, Luffy, Zoro) I mentioned as the group that is strongest of the a very powerful bunch. I don't want to turn this into a DBZ power level comparison, merely pointing out that if Kid's team might handle a Yonko, then Luffy's team would not be at a disadvantage.
No one is saying it's easier. But it's quite fair to assume that Luffy's crew when you take out the captain is superior to the other 8 Supernova captains. If someone were to give me a choice to protect me from a Yonko, and it was between, Sanji, Law, Zoro, Luffy or Kid, Apoo, Hawkins, Killer.. which side would you honestly pick? Because for me, it would be a pretty easy choice. Law might also have a plan that helps "even" the odds a bit against a Yonko, we do not know so far. He seems one of the very rare characters in the series along with Doflamingo that uses any sort of plan rather than rely on I'm going to get stronger now that I fight you or luck.. or both.
I do not quite understand what you mean with one alliance being different from the other.
By the way, in no way am I saying that Apoo or Hawkins are in any way weak or ok here. I am certain they are monsters esp after the time skip, I just see the 4 (Kid, Law, Luffy, Zoro) I mentioned as the group that is strongest of the a very powerful bunch. I don't want to turn this into a DBZ power level comparison, merely pointing out that if Kid's team might handle a Yonko, then Luffy's team would not be at a disadvantage.
i think you misunderstood when i said easier, i'm saying that if its possible with law, luffy, zoro, then with an addition of drake it "should" be easier is all.
While luffy and his crew will eventually become the top dogs, at this point in the story its all conjecture as to who's stronger than who at the moment but to answer your question and sorry to be so technical i really dont know who i'd pick as i'd want to know more about kaido and also the people protecting me (since we only so so much about kid alliance and their crews). pre timeskip i would have picked kid over law but since we've been seeing alot more of law ive seen more potential in his strength but kid is still a mystery, so again i honestly dont know.
when i say their alliance is different i just meant how they go about doing things. As you've pointed out, law seems to have some big plan that will bring kaido out in the open while i think kid's alliance might be going about it whittling away at Big Mam's(the person i think he's targeting) forces (as seen by him taking out two of her fleets).
i see your point and i dont mean to allude to law and luffy alone being at a disadvantage, its more of a what i want to happen and matching up the similarities between the two alliances
At the risk of power level talk, I don't think those three crews match up of Luffy and Law alliance in terms of strength and brains. Numbers is irrelevant.
At the risk of power level talk, I don't think those three crews match up of Luffy and Law alliance in terms of strength and brains. Numbers is irrelevant.
I don't know, Killer seems like a pretty smart guy to me
Judging by Law's comment to Drake, "Drake, how many people have you killed?" it seems like he has a pretty free reign.
i wonder about that actually…. what if it was a sarcastic greeting as Drake may have not killed anyone and so he was teasing him about it?
i think you misunderstood when i said easier, i'm saying that if its possible with law, luffy, zoro, then with an addition of drake it "should" be easier is all.
While luffy and his crew will eventually become the top dogs, at this point in the story its all conjecture as to who's stronger than who at the moment but to answer your question and sorry to be so technical i really dont know who i'd pick as i'd want to know more about kaido and also the people protecting me (since we only so so much about kid alliance and their crews). pre timeskip i would have picked kid over law but since we've been seeing alot more of law ive seen more potential in his strength but kid is still a mystery, so again i honestly dont know.
when i say their alliance is different i just meant how they go about doing things. As you've pointed out, law seems to have some big plan that will bring kaido out in the open while i think kid's alliance might be going about it whittling away at Big Mam's(the person i think he's targeting) forces (as seen by him taking out two of her fleets).
i see your point and i dont mean to allude to law and luffy alone being at a disadvantage, its more of a what i want to happen and matching up the similarities between the two alliances
Fair enough. I'd prefer it Oda goes a different way, but I see why why you would want the storyline to that way as well. I like the gif by the way.
That story doesn't take more than 5 hours, it goes accordingly to the main story line, so is either Drake was inside or Drake wasn't inside
No they don't ?
That story doesn't take more than 5 hours, it goes accordingly to the main story line, so is either Drake was inside or Drake wasn't inside
There's really nothing to suggest that this is true, though.
I mean it's not like it was ever nighttime in the Caribou story during the night between PH and Dressrosa.
No they don't ?
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There's really nothing to suggest that this is true, though.
I mean it's not like it was ever nighttime in the Caribou story during the night between PH and Dressrosa.
Wait, it isn't? I know I read some information where it says that the cover story takes place at the same time but I'll keep looking to see If I can find it
PS: How come nobody asked this question in one of the SBS?
Wait, it isn't? I know I read some information where it says that the cover story takes place at the same time but I'll keep looking to see If I can find it
PS: How come nobody asked this question in one of the SBS?
There are a lot of instances where days change with the Straw Hats but not for the cover story characters.
Days and night are never clear in mangas.
I bet there are people when the last time nami took a bath or when zorro took a shit.
I hope that we go back to the Tournament next chapter and see more Bellamy. Also I made a picture(Don't know why but I did):http://i.imgur.com/J3WXgGq.png
Why would he be using an observation Haki in his toilet break.
Okay I'm sorry if I made an imaginary/stupid discovery I was really excited about and wasted so much of everyone's time.
He should have sense Caribou in your page. He doesn't look like Drake. The sitting can't be compared to Drake since we never seen when he sat down. Drake had a totally different style of haxe. It would be like saying that Helmoppo uses sword so if we see two Katana it can be him. Why would Kaidou put two guys in the same island. Where was Drake when the attack happened?
You're basing the argument on a axe and a sword. If it was a real forshadowing it would be obvious. We would at the very least see the hair style.
Also I made a picture(Don't know why but I did):http://i.imgur.com/J3WXgGq.png
That's MK in a nutshell.