This was a great chapter. I've read almost the entire thread discussion until now, yet, I guess we are letting go something that could be important.
During the fight, someone says to CC's henchmen: “Don’t lay a hand on him, you small fries!!!” (thanks CCC). Such person is shadowed, and isn't revealed who's. http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/671/10
I'm just trying to bring this to the discussion, sorry if someone even mentioned it before and I just ended ignoring it.
Chapter 671: The Gas-Gas Fruit
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Don't know if it means anything but Law is bleeding slightly from the mouth on page 15 in both bottom panels.
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Hmm, sorry, but I think that's not quite it.
From what I understand, when put in that situation when he's being pummeled by Luffy, CC lost a bit of his composture and started calling names to his underlings. I think they're surprised, because CC is usually really gentle with them, what with them treating CC as their Master and Savior.
Another figure in the middle of the battlefield and no one notices it? Comments it? Not even a "who's there? who said that?" and the fight just goes on like nothing happened? Sorry, but I don't quite see it.
Edit: I don't know which translation is closer to the original, but the mangateers one had CC saying "don't interfere, you TRASH". The underlings really look shocked that CC called them trash. Maybe it makes more sense like that?
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This was a great chapter. I've read almost the entire thread discussion until now, yet, I guess we are letting go something that could be important.
During the fight, someone says to CC's henchmen: “Don’t lay a hand on him, you small fries!!!” (thanks CCC). Such person is shadowed, and isn't revealed who's. http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/671/10
I'm just trying to bring this to the discussion, sorry if someone even mentioned it before and I just ended ignoring it.I didn't notice this at all in mangareader's translation - interesting. Maybe.
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Hmm, sorry, but I think that's not quite it.
From what I understand, when put in that situation when he's being pummeled by Luffy, CC lost a bit of his composture and started calling names to his underlings. I think they're surprised, because CC is usually really gentle with them, what with them treating CC as their Master and Savior.
Another figure in the middle of the battlefield and no one notices it? Comments it? Not even a "who's there? who said that?" and the fight just goes on like nothing happened? Sorry, but I don't quite see it.
Yeah I think that makes more sense. That's what I read in the translation as well… Not sure what's right now. But this does make more sense....
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Luffy got knocked out by Haki!! and Law didn't receive the same amount of Haki power on purpose
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Edit: I don't know which translation is closer to the original, but the mangateers one had CC saying "don't interfere, you TRASH". The underlings really look shocked that CC called them trash. Maybe it makes more sense like that?
I guess it really does makes more sense like it. Thanks for clearing it a bit.
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This was a great chapter. I've read almost the entire thread discussion until now, yet, I guess we are letting go something that could be important.
During the fight, someone says to CC's henchmen: “Don’t lay a hand on him, you small fries!!!” (thanks CCC). Such person is shadowed, and isn't revealed who's. http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/671/10
I'm just trying to bring this to the discussion, sorry if someone even mentioned it before and I just ended ignoring it.From the sillouete I thought it was CC himself saying that to his minions.
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This was a great chapter. I've read almost the entire thread discussion until now, yet, I guess we are letting go something that could be important.
During the fight, someone says to CC's henchmen: “Don’t lay a hand on him, you small fries!!!” (thanks CCC). Such person is shadowed, and isn't revealed who's. http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/671/10
I'm just trying to bring this to the discussion, sorry if someone even mentioned it before and I just ended ignoring it.Maybe I was reading it wrong but I perceived that as Caesar abusing his subordinates with the statements like "Small fries? Did I hear that wrong" and "why do these things listen to the master" carefully transitioning the loyalty the centaurs have to their master. I expect they will turn on Caesar it is clear that they are catching on to the unethical practices he is subjecting juxtaposed to "dying" (and I use that term loosely) of blissful ignorance like Brownbeard.
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I'm still doubting it's Vegapunk, though it could be him. I had many speculations on who that person is and there's no way the person is Law's crewmember because the guy says "Look how you've grown.' so he must be a certain individual who knows Law for a very long time. If it's Vegapunk, then it's a good twist but question is….why would Monet suddenly sided with Vegapunk? Or is she been keeping a secret from Caesar? And how did Vegapunk came to Punk Hazard without being easily noticed? Or does it mean that this whole incident is planned by Vegapunk, not Caesar? Of course, not! Also, we still have yet to find out why Vegapunk is creating the Pacifistas? What motivates him to do that? Why did he use his own talent to create cyborg weapons for the Marines instead of using his talents for good? Is it because of Caesar? This are the only questions that we haven't find out about Vegapunk's background. So I believe the guy is JOKER...
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I'm still doubting it's Vegapunk, though it could be him. I had many speculations on who that person is and there's no way the person is Law's crewmember because the guy says "Look how you've grown.' so he must be a certain individual who knows Law for a very long time. If it's Vegapunk, then it's a good twist but question is….why would Monet suddenly sided with Vegapunk? Or is she been keeping a secret from Caesar? And how did Vegapunk came to Punk Hazard without being easily noticed? Or does it mean that this whole incident is planned by Vegapunk, not Caesar? Of course, not! Also, we still have yet to find out why Vegapunk is creating the Pacifistas? What motivates him to do that? Why did he use his own talent to create cyborg weapons for the Marines instead of using his talents for good? Is it because of Caesar? This are the only questions that we haven't find out about Vegapunk's background. So I believe the guy is JOKER…
There is very little doubt in my mind, considering Law's shock and Monet's smile. All the circumstantial evidence points to it, Oda wouldn't throw in a random person. It might be Aokiji but if it is, then Aokiji IS Joker. A person who intimidates Law, besides this Joker guy who just random shows up, would be weird.
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Maybe I was reading it wrong but I perceived that as Caesar abusing his subordinates with the statements like "Small fries? Did I hear that wrong" and "why do these things listen to the master" carefully transitioning the loyalty the centaurs have to their master. I expect they will turn on Caesar it is clear that they are catching on to the unethical practices he is subjecting juxtaposed to "dying" (and I use that term loosely) of blissful ignorance like Brownbeard.
This, pretty much. I don't know if it's a sign that they'll actually turn on him, but we are being beaten over the head with moments where they're shocked at his callousness.
…And it's definitely CC saying it to his minions. He's bursting out of the rubble where the JET Mace just sent him.
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Did anyone else notice Law left the bag with Chopper in it in the room Monet was in? (it's late and don't feel like sifting through 8 pages)
And wow CC's face was hilarious after the explosion.
And why no chapter next week?? :(:(:(
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@CCC:
This, pretty much. I don't know if it's a sign that they'll actually turn on him, but we are being beaten over the head with moments where they're shocked at his callousness.
…And it's definitely CC saying it to his minions. He's bursting out of the rubble where the JET Mace just sent him.
They might help with the yonkou fight if they leave cc!
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Did anyone else notice Law left the bag with Chopper in it in the room Monet was in? (it's late and don't feel like sifting through 8 pages)
And wow CC's face was hilarious after the explosion.
And why no chapter next week?? :(:(:(
He did that so that Chopper could look at the stuff in the room which is one of the reasons he got monet to come out of the room.
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@CCC:
This, pretty much. I don't know if it's a sign that they'll actually turn on him, but we are being beaten over the head with moments where they're shocked at his callousness.
…And it's definitely CC saying it to his minions. He's bursting out of the rubble where the JET Mace just sent him.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I read it like this initially anyways, but then this alternative confused me. Thanks!
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I read it like this initially anyways, but then this alternative confused me. Thanks!
Yea, I'm kinda sorry for it, hah.
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The one in the shadow stole Law heart a long time ago. It's not Vegapunk because Caesar is against him unless Monet becomes a traitor but it's not the case because the government and marines controls Vegapunk movements…and my point now is that if Caesar is a devil fruit user.... MAYBE VEGAPUNK WILL HAVE A FRUIT OR DIFFERENT FRUITS TOO...
What is sure is Law has no heart and is surviving because of his devil fruit, and Bepo is not a Bear but a human whose Law changed his spirit maybe because the real body was damaged..
And another thing…..............look at the right eye of Monet!!!!! He became complitly black!!!! Maybe she's using an ability or power in Law.....
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It's Vegapunk:
! [http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/mangas/One Piece/671 - The Gas-Gas Fruit/16.jpg](http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/mangas/One Piece/671 - The Gas-Gas Fruit/16.jpg)
And here you can see the seven Warlords:
Not that its unlikely that it's Vegapunk, but the anime is not the reason why.
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@Law:
They might help with the yonkou fight if they leave cc!
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He did that so that Chopper could look at the stuff in the room which is one of the reasons he got monet to come out of the room.
Yeah I knew why he did it, I was just curious if anyone else noticed.
I wanna see why Law is falling over in pain and also if it's linked to Luffy falling over or if CC's gas did actually work on him.
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Not that its unlikely that it's Vegapunk, but the anime is not the reason why.
It's also in the manga though
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The one in the shadow stole Law heart a long time ago. It's not Vegapunk because Caesar is against him unless Monet becomes a traitor but it's not the case because the government and marines controls Vegapunk movements…and my point now is that if Caesar is a devil fruit user.... MAYBE VEGAPUNK WILL HAVE A FRUIT OR DIFFERENT FRUITS TOO...
What is sure is Law has no heart and is surviving because of his devil fruit, and Bepo is not a Bear but a human whose Law changed his spirit maybe because the real body was damaged..
And another thing…..............look at the right eye of Monet!!!!! He became complitly black!!!! Maybe she's using an ability or power in Law.....
I said it was her as well because Law said he wanted her to come because of her ability which most likely means she is a devil fruit user also i think Joker sent her to keep a eye on CC which is why he came when CC is under attack.
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The mysterious figure is obviously Doflamingo or Sabo. Or Trafalgar Law's dad (or brother): Trafalgar Order.
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@The:
The mysterious figure is obviously Doflamingo or Sabo. Or Trafalgar Law's dad (or brother): Trafalgar Order.
My first thought was that it was Doflamingo :ninja:.
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It's either Doflamingo with his invisible threads or some unnamed character from Law's past.
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My first thought was that it was Doflamingo :ninja:.
That's because he's behind everything in One Piece.
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I'm a very happy winged cat right now!! I've been totally inspired this morning.
I had said it a long time ago in the stupid crossover thread that I would love to see a x-over between One Piece and another manga, Bastard!! When the slime was introduced I said it reminded me of the slime from Bastard and knew that Brook & Sanji (I'll add Kinemon too) would love that slime as it ate clothing
Imagine my delight when I read that page this morning of Brook reading a certain book…. :ninja: Oda has inderectly told us what manga Brook reads
AS for my inspiration ….girl in Brook's thought bubble is Yoko from Bastard, she's the redhead on the cover
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Just posting again my theory from the spoiler thread:
I think CC works for the mysterious man. (Which I think is Joker.)
My guess is that this guy has Law's heart (don't know how he got it, could have a df ability that makes an attack from another df ability be turned against the attacker, for instance), therefore the reason why Law fell to the ground holding his chest. The mysterious man really needs CC, but given his situation Law couldn't kidnap CC himself to exchange him for his heart, he needed someone who wouldn't just be subdued, which brings us to why he needed the Strawhats to do the job.
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And why no chapter next week?? :(:(:(
Because Oda can afford to take a break every 5-7 chapters.
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Amazing chapter this week.
Everything i wanted to mention was mentioned here already but.1)In this lake something huge will be revealed to us.At least something not expected.
2)Monet has an "ability" which makes her even more awesome.
3)I wont comment on who this person may be , i'll think it for the rest of the day and post afterwards.
4)Chopper's in now , and chopper will see great things.
5)Franky barrel and Sanji/Kinemon/Brook/Zoro great comedy. -
But, Monet was laughing like she suspected him and was planning Law's downfall. CC said a couple chaps that "People who think too much are hard to handle" (Chapter 666 to be exact), this makes me think that CC was planning on getting rid of law at some point. This in turn would make Monet involved so it is highly unlikely that Monet would be laughing over the arrival of CC's greatest rival and the collapse of an ally.
Also, what Law says here http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/666/7 is kind of suspicious to me. If experiments that cause pain to the subjects like that remind him of someone and now some random dude Law knows from his past has him on the ground and coughing out blood, there may be some sort of connection. Purely speculation at this point but most of the theories about this mystery guy are.
Oh and something to point out about CC and his fruit abilities. Keep in mind that he is also a chemist and designer of chemical weapons by profession so he probably has a deeper understanding of the functions and potentials of his fruit than anyone in the series that we've seen.
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Yeah that black Monet eye was pretty weird I thought it was just the chapter shading or something, but it could be linked to an ability.
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Because Oda can afford to take a break every 5-7 chapters.
Ahhh so just the routine break. I don't keep track of when breaks are, so was curious if was for a special occasion other then Oda's mini holiday.
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That guy…It's sabo.
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That guy…It's sabo.
Don't you mean Doflamingo?
Of course, Doflamingo, being the head of the organization that's behind everything in One Piece, could've sent Sabo, one of his top agents, to rendezvous with Monet–another member of the organization, and Doflamingo's wife--and confront Law.
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Amazing chapter! I think it is stupid of Luffy to think he is immune to all poisons considering being immune to one type of poison does not automatically mean you are immune to all types of poison. Also I think Luffy and Law are linked and it may have happened when they planned how to take down the yonkou. It probably is the heart switch but I don't know why they would do that.
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I don't think Luffy was poisoned. I think CC is just controlling the gas inside Luffy's lungs, and asphyxiating him with it.
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Excellent chapter. Should definitely provide enough "theories" to keep this thread going until it returns in a couple of weeks anyway. Still, it's obvious that the man knows Law and Law knows him. The fact that he mentioned how much Law's grown indicates he's known Law for a long time and is most likely related to him. And with that being the case, it's obviously not either Aokiji or Doflamingo. Both of them can be excluded because of the mannerisms being displayed alone. The guess of Vegapunk is interesting, though. I think now is a decent time to at least introduce him formally, but hold back on his research/motives for later since he's such a huge part of what makes the WG tick (and all-knowing when it comes to DFs). Still, to get back to the fact that Law knows the guy and it being somewhat feasible that it's Vegapunk, I'm gonna go with Law being Vegapunk's son. That would explain Law's affinity for medical science and would also make his father just as import to the WG as Luffy's is to those that want to overthrow it. :ninja:
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Agreed. Also, you must be dying with the Law/Monet interaction, huh? ;)
I don't ship em.
But.
I'm already dying
This chapter legit has fucked my mind over
I just KLJFHWLGLWKGHLWHQF all these feels LKHWSOLGHLWQTHKWA cannot be contained ASKjfihwlyqwhtiwlhl HOLY SHITNIPPLES DFKJLAHGWHLFQGHE -
Probably been mentioned before in this thread, can't bother looking though. I know some people already said it might be Kuzan, and the frozen prisoners further proves this theory.
Although to be honest, I don't think its him.
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But, Monet was laughing like she suspected him and was planning Law's downfall. CC said a couple chaps that "People who think too much are hard to handle" (Chapter 666 to be exact), this makes me think that CC was planning on getting rid of law at some point. This in turn would make Monet involved so it is highly unlikely that Monet would be laughing over the arrival of CC's greatest rival and the collapse of an ally.
Also, what Law says here http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/666/7 is kind of suspicious to me. If experiments that cause pain to the subjects like that remind him of someone and now some random dude Law knows from his past has him on the ground and coughing out blood, there may be some sort of connection. Purely speculation at this point but most of the theories about this mystery guy are.
Oh and something to point out about CC and his fruit abilities. Keep in mind that he is also a chemist and designer of chemical weapons by profession so he probably has a deeper understanding of the functions and potentials of his fruit than anyone in the series that we've seen.
I pointed out that Law said that he knew about Joker as well in the spoiler thread which is why i think its a Joker also Joker seems to be high up in the world govt because he can make people disappear!
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Probably been mentioned before in this thread, can't bother looking though. I know some people already said it might be Kuzan, and the frozen prisoners further proves this theory.
Although to be honest, I don't think its him.
That is like saying that the hot side of the island must be hot because Akainu is still there but he is the new fleet admiral and Kuzan left the island after his battle because he needed medical attention but after that he left the marines it would stupid of him to go to the island when he left the marines i bet they made sure he did not go back to it and his ice power changed the island just like Akainu's magma power made 1 side of it hot!
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I bet my kidney that shadowy character is just a new character, nothing more.
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@The:
Don't you mean Doflamingo?
Of course, Doflamingo, being the head of the organization that's behind everything in One Piece, could've sent Sabo, one of his top agents, to rendezvous with Monet–another member of the organization, and Doflamingo's wife--and confront Law.
That's right,"THe answer to everything is Sabo un less if its a conspiracy or hidden agenda, then its Doflamingo behind everything." :)
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This is not your theory, u are stealing ideas from others.
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@Law:
Monet has a one black eye on the last page maybe she is using her devil fruit power on Law instead of Joker being the one doing it
Law said that she had a ability so he most likely was talking about a devil fruit ability!
http://mangateers.com/manga/one-piece/end/Nice catch! I didn't notice it because by that point my mind was hyped
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I have to say it's good to see Luffy and Law laid out. Luffy will see his alliance with Law as a reason to help Law too, so this arc has a lot of potential now that another potential villian has arrived. Then you have Sanji going deep into the lake, Smoker and Tashigi's involvement and also poor Chopper who's been left in that bag in Caesers reserach room. Maybe Chopper will do some research of his own and figure out what Caeser is really planning.
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This is not your theory, u are stealing ideas from others.
Who are you talking to?
When you are singling someone out, it helps if you copied the name or hit the 'reply with qutoe" so people know who you are talking to and not think you're talking to them if you mean someone else ….esp if its after that person's post. -
There's clearly a connection between Law and Luffy well-being.
The main question is: Did Luffy fall because of Law and the Silhouette guy or did Law fall because of Luffy and CC?
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Oh man, a figure people don't know about. Everything going to go nuts over who they think it is, only to find out it's someone who makes sense
In before
Sabo
Doflamingo
Akainu
The dude Doflamingo was talking to before the timeskip
Hitler
You
Your mother
Zuko
Katara
Luffy
Hancock
Dragon
Dragon's wife
Law?
Monet
Kidd
Kaido
Big Mom
Chevrolet
Chevrolet
Chevrolet
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My guesses:
-Rock Lee
-Gaara
-Aizen
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Oh man, a figure people don't know about. Everything going to go nuts over who they think it is, only to find out it's someone who makes sense
In before
Sabo
Doflamingo
Akainu
The dude Doflamingo was talking to before the timeskip
Hitler
You
Your mother
Zuko
Katara
Luffy
Hancock
Dragon
Dragon's wife
Law?
Monet
Kidd
Kaido
Big Mom
Chevrolet
Chevrolet
Chevrolet
and even perhaps..ChevroletHow???When??Why???
I vote for it being Bolin.
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I don't get Monet…is she double-triple-quadruple-crossing or it's just that she doesn't care about anyone?