Oh dear lord. Is the sexism thing really coming back up? Didn't we all tire of that in the chapter where Sanji comes to save Tashigi?
Chapter 686: Biscuit's room snow woman
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^ I know I know. This is so annoying, sexism and all. Shut up and enjoy the damn manga.
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@Nex:
Oh dear lord. Is the sexism thing really coming back up? Didn't we all tire of that in the chapter where Sanji comes to save Tashigi?
Do you see now why I got tired of it back in that thread? I remember you weren't particularly fond of my reaction.
It's not just something that pops up occasionally.It's like someone constantly cutting open old wounds. It's like, yes, we get it, great. There's a smorgasbord of other things to enjoy. There's a thread for sexism. Sometimes I really wish the moderation in this place was more crushing. If you went on a sexism derailment in some other forums, you'd be banned, even if you paid for your account lol.
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This was a good chapter, I look forward to the Tashigi/Zoro vs. Monet. Chopper, Sanji and Zoro all cracked me up, made my morning.
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Mangastream version: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/13749530/1 (what means, clearer images)
Thank you!
I know there is no way around CCC's translation for this chapter, but damn I hope this is correctly translated:
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Hahaha, Chopper's hat flew off. That's pretty rare, isn't it?
it happened 3 times so far. so yeah it's pretty rare.
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Pretty good chapter, can't wait for Tashigi to be s-canned once more~
but seriously, I hope this is her redemption fight and she shows her fighting chops.
Now to the whole Zoro not fighting back deal, which obviously has a few people's knickers in a twist. From what I can tell, Zoro was on the defensive because the others where still there and wanted to make sure they got out safely. It's not a case of sexism at all, he's making sure that they are gone so he can go as wild as he wants to without causing problems. The way he is, he feels obligated to protect the others, therefore being distracted from fighting full force, so he goes on the defensive. Once this fight gets back on, he'll attack more.
This whole thing with Monet seems that she knows exactly what these experiments are for. She knows exactly what will happen to the children, and she doesn't care. She is using her words sarcastically and any concern she shows for them is just concern for her own wellbeing. She knows that if things turn pear-shaped, Dofla will have her killed, so this is just self-preservation.
Much like CC, she is feigning the 'concerned mother-like' persona as a cruel joke.
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Amazing chapter.
The brief flashback.
We know that drugging children is a horrible act, but the "before and after" pictures of Doru, Konbu & Uzu were somewhat touching, and now that Oda named them we can be sure that they won't be forgotten by the end of this arc. At the very least, I'm expecting a cover story of them returning to their parents.
And Caesar. I guess I have a serious case of villain-crush, can't help it.! http://s7.directupload.net/images/121024/dxmgwnc5.jpg
Monet against Punk Hazard.
I don't get the arguments about Zoro being weak or that he got cheated out of a fight. I know that his fanbase can be…"special" at times, but isn't it obvious why he didn't attack Monet head on? She is a calculating, ice cold bitch. The first thing she did was (logically) taking out the weak. Zoro realised it and blocked her, knowing that if she avoids a direct hit from him the others would be screwed. Imagine what would happen if she lets him pass through like Smoker or Caesar.
He simply played it safe:First clash, protecting Nami and Chopper:
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His second move, slicing the ice barrier so Nami and Chopper can go for the children (and stop being a target for Monet)This is everything he did. The next panel shows Monet turning her wings into blades, asking why he only blocked her attacks.
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Someone like her probably doesn't understand why someone values his friends, instead of simply achieving the goal no matter the cost.Anyway, I liked that Nami resorted to her clima tact to "scare" Monet away, but I was hoping for a little more to be honest. But I guess she has a good excuse with the protection of the children. As for Monet herself, simply gorgeous. She must be the first woman who is a real threat to the Straw Hats, as in willing to kill them on the spot + backed up with the power to actually pull it off. Loving it, especially the strong contrast between her girlish side and the "harpy demon" within her.
As for her caring for the children, I think it is as Warp Predator said. She is simply batshit crazy, seems to be a common trait in Doflamingo's crew.Sanji, Sanji, Sanji.
I loved his interaction with the G-5 in the last chapters, but this is killing it. Him domesticating the supposedly rough marines is hilarious, and I can't wait for CCC's proper translation concerning his convo with Zoro. I don't care if he got his leg broken or couldn't kick a door, this is character redemption right there. His reaction to Monet was also oldschool level funny and totally expected. Now please Oda, pretty please, let him command the marines against Caesar's fodder like a marine captain!Tashigi.
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Yeah, okay. Sorry, but I'm not buying this Oda.
After acting and behaving like failing, crying fodder for the past 20 chapters you can't pull this line. Just no.
She needs redemption, but this is simply not believable, especially with Zoro around. I don't know what will happen in the next chapter, since the "fights" are allover the place in this arc, but "Captain Tashigi to the rescue" is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I love her character, but this really seems forced to me.Thank you for your review. Nice reading. There should be a review thread here in AP; you would make a good job there :-)
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Wow everyone's on the zoro is holding back train.
I'm going to invite some hate here and say that zoro's probably not that good with coa haki which would actually justify a tag team with tashigi.
Now I might be wrong but this makes just more sense to me right now than the bleach like shenanigans of holding back for contrived reasons or the whole sexism thing which is equally mind boggling to me. -
Maybe Zoro can only block with CoA and not attack
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I would say that if Monet is not going to join the strawhats, she will join the hearts (Law's crew) and that's after we see her complete story with DD.
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Not going to lie
this was such a slow transitional chapter, but looks like next week the fight begins… i hopeI hope that tashigi is just there to note the change in power of Zoro and therefore communicate the change to marines so his bounty is adjusted accordingly
But if not i just want to see more of what the guy can actually do now because he's probably the only strawhat who has yet to truly show off any new skills. We've seen improvements on previous moves with 1 new one used on the kraken
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Hm….I could see Tashigi being really motivated (due to witnessing her subordinates get petrified by the gas)......and thus, taking out her grief and rage on the next best thing-the woman working for the scientist that caused it.
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Not going to lie
this was such a slow transitional chapter, but looks like next week the fight begins… i hopeI hope that tashigi is just there to note the change in power of Zoro and therefore communicate the change to marines so his bounty is adjusted accordingly
But if not i just want to see more of what the guy can actually do now because he's probably the only strawhat who has yet to truly show off any new skills. We've seen improvements on previous moves with 1 new one used on the kraken
Considering how you were excited that Zoro was gonna get a fight, you're just mad Zoro was a floormat in this chapter for the girls to shine.
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The main focus for me in this chapter was the fact that Zoro would not counter-attack, or go on the offensive at all. Seems a little out of character, which leads me to believe there must be a good reason. And Oda left us hanging with this question in mind for next week. But it certainly did try to imply that Zoro can't use CoA haki, which is a little hard to swallow. I mean, if we saw a possible strike without any draw of blood, then I'd maybe understand, but there isn't any evidence proving this implied notion. Other reasons could be… who knows... Zoro is more reluctant to injure a woman? But then again, he's beaten up women before. That can't be it. My best guess would be that he wanted to wait for the room to clear as to try out some new technique? Something he gleaned off of Kitsune the samurai guy. Perhaps use flames in his attacks? Another good guess would be that Zoro is feeling something through his haki about her disposition about the children, and it's causing him to think a few things over as he's blocking her attacks. You would think she would say, she can't have Doflamingo be uncovered as mastermind behind this mess, including the children. Anyways... even if it is proven next chapter he has trouble with CoA haki, or if it's not up to par to injure logias as Tashigi's, I have no problem with it. It seems everyone is still lacking in some way or manner and will have to grow as the story goes on.
Also, Robin's attack against Monet is a little suspicious. At first, I thought, is that a haki attack, either CoA or CoO? Maybe Oda would have made it a little more obvious by stating it in the attack name, but maybe it was just an extreme amount of force that allowed her body holding Nami to be broken apart. But it was done with quite the precision (perhaps CoO) as Monet was ready to take a bite out of Nami.
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@Nex:
To the people who think Zoro doesn't want to fight a woman, let me ask you this: do you really think he would dishonor Kuina in that way?
You do really what he was doing right, he was studying Kinemon. We've known for a while Zoro has wanted a fire sword and now that he has seen a swordsman who has that ability he wants to figure out how. That's why he agreed to help Kinemon in the first place.
Which brings me to my big theory of the week:
Zoro wasn't just biding time, or refusing to hit a woman, he was preparing to attempt to replicate Kinemon's technique. After all, what better to use a fire sword on than a snow-demon-thing.
ANyway, that's just my theory. I read through the first six pages and didn't see anything like it, so I took a gamble. Hope it pays off.
As for my thoughts on the chapter as a whole: it was great, but the best part is the when Sanji shows up leading the marines. That whole exchange made me laugh so hard.
I really like this theory and it fits with his previous characterization. And he even saw Nami's heat trick work too, so there's no reason not to try it. And who better to try it in front of than Tashigi?
Speaking of which, I'm glad Tashigi is getting a badass moment.
Hm….I could see Tashigi being really motivated (due to witnessing her subordinates get petrified by the gas)......and thus, taking out her grief and rage on the next best thing-the woman working for the scientist that caused it.
Yeah; the parallel of Smoker fighting Vergo and now Tashigi fighting Monet for much the same reason has to be intentional.
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Every time I decide to go to bed before checking the spoilers, the chapter ends up coming out like right after I've fallen asleep, at least I get to skip the mangapanda version ;[
Weird chapter for all the already stated reasons, I want more of Sanji making asshole burns against Zoro cause that was pretty damn lulzy, and I absolutely cannot believe there are still people supporting Monet as Straw Hat material how in the hell
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maybe Zoro can't use his haki cause he'll most likely cut part of the building, and they really don't need to meet shinokuni again.
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Zoro would fight a women but wouldn't seriously hurt them unless he has to.
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! http://c.mhcdn.net/store/manga/106/12-100.0/compressed/13.jpgAnd then we have Zoro crushing the head of Miss Monday. He did hit the Nun and her kid too.
I think Zoro was about to get serious when the Marines where getting hit.
Edit: I guess we need to have a gauge of this "fighting women" thing.
Luffy would beat the shit out of a women…
Zoro would only fight them when he has to but wouldn't seriously injure them. Unless if your Miss Monday.
Sanji would die before hitting a women even if the situation demands it.http://onepiece.wikkii.net/w/images/thumb/4/4c/Msmondaydefeated.JPG/230px-Msmondaydefeated.JPG
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Now to the whole Zoro not fighting back deal, which obviously has a few people's knickers in a twist. From what I can tell, Zoro was on the defensive because the others where still there and wanted to make sure they got out safely. It's not a case of sexism at all, he's making sure that they are gone so he can go as wild as he wants to without causing problems. The way he is, he feels obligated to protect the others, therefore being distracted from fighting full force, so he goes on the defensive. Once this fight gets back on, he'll attack more.
You know, I didn't even think about that until now. Thanks for that! I almost forgot about the bandana. Man, I can't wait to see him go all out and put that bitch in her place!
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I also agree with the Zoro was going to try to use Kinemon's technique on her. Probably didn't want to do it in front of anyone else in case it didn't work and ends up hurting someone there. So he got everyone out of the way before he tries it.
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It's not pretty cool to be off topic, insult quite a few members directly, and insult many other members who actually have a spectrum disorder. I don't think you know what autism is, based on your posting history, I'm assuming that you think autism is Sabo. :ninja:
On topic, really looking forward to what happens next week, the arc seems to be coming to a close, which means we might finally see Franky again soon.
I wasn't the one who started the off-topic actually, read the first pages.
I said something, someone said that we know that and insulted me. The thing is, we didn't know this thing, so his first post and the next few were unnecessary. And I already explained how autism is related, but I guess you are not too much into reading, are you? Oh, and I didn't insult anyone, that's just what you think.
Was anyone else reminded of Hordy when Monet bit the marine?
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I personally think the "theory" about Zoro's haki being too strong is stupid as hell. It's not like haki is a nuclear bomb that you're trying to control with your mind.
I do like the "Zoro trying to copy Kinemons technique" theory though.
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I wasn't the one who started the off-topic actually, read the first pages.
I said something, someone said that we know that and insulted me. The thing is, we didn't know this thing, so his first post and the next few were unnecessary. And I already explained how autism is related, but I guess you are not too much into reading, are you? Oh, and I didn't insult anyone, that's just what you think.
Was anyone else reminded of Hordy when Monet bit the marine?
I'm sorry but you have no idea about autism. What you're saying is basically as dumb as saying fat people are fat because they eat too much.
The problems run way deeper and there are very differing forms of autism. So yeah first of all using it in a demeaning way and oversimplificating the issue is insulting as hell. It's as wrong as using gay as a deragotive term so fix your attitude dude… -
Zoro only guarding goes with the fact that he only wants nami and others to leave the room because monet's dangerous. And I call bs for Oda never hurting pretty women, people seem to have forgotten about Bonney.
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Guys,I personally think that Jabra's version sounds the most likely.
Someone like her probably doesn't understand why someone values his friends, instead of simply achieving the goal no matter the cost.
This.This would make so much sense.
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@Sir:
Zoro only guarding goes with the fact that he only wants nami and others to leave the room because monet's dangerous. And I call bs for Oda never hurting pretty women, people seem to have forgotten about Bonney.
Hell just last arc we had Hody kill Otome and Van Der Decken stabbing Shirahosi.
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My guess is that Zoro specialized in Observation Haki, as that type is more useful for swordsmen. If he can see his opponents' attacks coming, he knows exactly where to put his sword in order to end the fight. If you notice when Monet is talking to Zoro about how he's just been defending, you can see his eyes are 'overshadowed' which Oda typically uses to show that someone is dreading what comes next… or that someone just got extremely serious.
Then again, based on his reaction to Tashigi's claim, it might just have been that he was trying to figure out Fire-Sword techniques after all. He doesn't come across as surprised or insulted... more confused.
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The chapter felt weird for me. And that's mainly because ALMOST everything worked really well, except of the subject that's just under discussion. But it bugged me so much that it affected my whole enjoyment of a chapter that, on the other hand, has so much stuff to enjoy:
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The kids flashback. Dragged? My ass. It was perfect. The contrast between the panels where we saw the kids when they just arrived at PH, perfect innocent childs, with the ones where we see their giant drugged up counterpart were quite hardcore, at least emotionally. People seem to really underappreciate this aspect of the arc, and for me it is clearly the point were Oda is being more poignant and daring. I cannot stress enough that these kids are on FUCKING METH, among many, many other drugs. Oh, and that if left like that, they'll die in 5 years. Oda is not pulling any freaking punches here.
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Monet showed a vast array of thecniques, and I loved all of them; although, of course, the snow harpy monster takes the cake completely. Her twisted behaviour is also quite something. And her viciousness is a nice addition. Also, her flashback self is freaking HOT.
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Nami and Robin getting to do something, even if it wasn't "much", was nice. People complained that Nami could use heat with her clima tact and that why she wasn't using it; there you go. Also, some people thought Robin was out for the count; well, there you go again. That I enjoyed.
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Chopper being used as a shield was hilarious, and no wonder he freaked the hell out when monster Monet tried to eat him. I'd freak out as well, no doubt.
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Sanji + G-5 was probably the highlight of the chapter. The way they are bonding is beyond hilarious. Also, Zoro interacting with Sanji is allways welcome.
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Tashigi getting a slash in. Again, Rollercoaster Tashigi to the rescue. I said it before and many agreed; she makes a cool thing, then a failure, then another cool thing, then another failure. . .now it was a cool thing. Next week, he gets fodderized again??? I'm expecting some interactions between her and Zoro, and I was missing this. A LOT.
All of this, ALL, makes for a great, great chapter. Really funny. Felt like an "in-between" chapter? Maybe. But some of the posters here can't seem to enjoy this type of really funny, entertaining and enjoyable chapters.
But, as said before, my happiness is not full. Seriously, Zoro not attacking Monet feels like a bad omen. I really, REALLY hope it's because of something like "he wants to try Kinemon's fire style". I don't like it, it smells of weird writing to me. Or even that Zoro is unsure how to use CoA, even if that's even worse writing. Anything's better than "I can't fight against a woman". Not after Zoro fought Miss Monday before. And specially, NOT after Zoro's back story with Kuina where HE told HER not to fucking blame anything on her gender, because that would take all the merit from an hypotethical victory against her. We already had the infamous "She's a woman!" in Skypiea.
And I won't comment on it any further cause A- I don't want to keep the stupid "sexism" discussion going, and B- There's allways room for an explanation on Oda's part next week (unless he jumps to one of the other conflicts, which is a strong possibility. . . .).
Anyways. A bit bittersweet, but in the end, more sweet than bitter.
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Hell just last arc we had Hody kill Otome and Van Der Decken stabbing Shirahosi.
Your doing it wrong too. Try again.
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Hell just last arc we had Hody kill Otome and Van Der Decken stabbing Shirahosi.
He'll say that that's because they were evil.
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Nice chapter. I wish Oda would hurry up a bit though with the build up arcs and make the final one the longest.
This chapter was all about Monet. Yes, she's evil. People saying "how could she be such a good mother figure? etc"… because she has to be an actress to get the kids to do what she wants (the same as teary ol' Caeser). The reason Monet is desperate to protect Caeser and his experiments is because Dofla will kill her if she fails. She's a bit of a bitch, especially her reaction towards Nami... which could hint to a showdown between the two if Monet escapes Punk Hazard when Baby 5 and Buffalo arrive (we've already seen Nami can affect Monet).
Zoro is always hesitant attacking women. Tashigi must've figured this out during her little matchup with Zoro at Loguetown. That's probably why she thinks she might be needed. Zoro thinks she's making him look weak, just like Kuina used to. Will be good to see the banter between Zoro and Tashigi as the arc progresses.
I hope we see the end of Punk Hazard soon... I can definately imagine a surprise appearance from a known character at the end, either at the climax of the final battle or after it (with Vegapunk and Aokiji leading the odds).
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I liked this chapter a lot, the only part I didn't like is we didn't get to see Vergo and Smoker :(
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Zoro being all hesitant really doesn't fit with his "pull it togheter, the new world starts here" speech to Luffy…
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Or Arlong killing Bellemere. Oh wait, they're evil. So somehow sexism only applies to good guys?
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@Sonic:
Zoro being all hesitant really doesn't fit with his "pull it togheter, the new world starts here" speech to Luffy…
That was a gag setup for Luffy's UFO attack. People really need to stop taking that part seriously.
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I wasn't the one who started the off-topic actually, read the first pages.
I said something, someone said that we know that and insulted me. The thing is, we didn't know this thing, so his first post and the next few were unnecessary. And I already explained how autism is related, but I guess you are not too much into reading, are you? Oh, and I didn't insult anyone, that's just what you think.
Was anyone else reminded of Hordy when Monet bit the marine?
List of things that are autism: a medical disorder
List of things that aren't autism: inability to stay on topic, opinion that something isn't on topic, inability to communicate, etc.
List of things that are probably Sabo: everything
List of people that feel insulted: me and probably a lot of other people who have autism and are tired of seeing it used as an insult, the people that you called autistic and members of the "autism club" one of whom made a legitimate on topic reply to you, and one of whom was offended by your initial autistic remark.I realize that this is incredibly off topic, but I really do feel strongly about this issue and urge the moderating staff to take a more reasonable role in moderating this forum. It is a forum for the discussion of One Piece. Not a forum for flaming other members.
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I'm sorry but you have no idea about autism. What you're saying is basically as dumb as saying fat people are fat because they eat too much.
The problems run way deeper and there are very differing forms of autism. So yeah first of all using it in a demeaning way and oversimplificating the issue is insulting as hell. It's as wrong as using gay as a deragotive term so fix your attitude dude…Can't you just drop the topic? Me and CaptainKid made peace, so why do you dig into this? This is internet forum, not all things should be taken seriously.
! And don't get me started on the fat topic, because I am pretty confident in the field of nutrition and exercise. The vast majority of fat people are fat because they lack exercise, and while there are people with hormonal problems (which could also be somewhat solved with diet and exercise) etc, in most cases it's just an excuse. This is like people who are self-diagnosed with OCD. If you have any other questions, please direct me into a topic where we can discuss this, I would be glad to help.
! Something interesting happened in the States a few weeks ago (I am not american, but I saw it on the internet). Basically, a fat newswoman recieved a personal letter from a guy telling her that it would be a good example for the general audience and the children who are watching to lose some weight. It was pretty mild-mannered letter with no insults etc. Instead of taking his advice or ignoring it, she makes a huge scnandal about it, etc. She even commented that the guy who sent the letter has no friends, he is a loser etc. I think there is a lot to learn from this. -
Wait ,why do people even assume Zoro doesn't know CoA ,that would be Oda's real contradiction if I ever heard one
not only did he have Luffy confirm that BOTH Sanji and Zoro are capable of hurting Logia's ,he also had Zoro
single himself out in ch.685 as being the only one [[between He, Robin ,Nami ,Chopper]] that can combat a Logia.So now here comes this chapter Oda confirms Zoro's CoO, but all of a sudden he can't attack a Logia? I don't buy it at all.
I'm in the bunch that assume Zoro wasn't attacking because of prioritizing protecting the others over defeating Monet or
he simply doesn't wanna go all out with cutting shit down ,when there is poison gas floating around the factory.But I do support the Kinemon's Technique theory and holding back cause of his own overpowering CoA.
Either way ,the day Tashigi can use CoA and Zoro can't is the day I give OP alittle
break. Better yet , what was the point of Smoker scolding Tashigi about haki being the only way to beat Law's Room tech
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List of things that are autism: a medical disorder
List of things that aren't autism: inability to stay on topic, opinion that something isn't on topic, inability to communicate, etc.
List of things that are probably Sabo: everything List of people that feel insulted: me and probably a lot of other people who have autism and are tired of seeing it used as an insult, the people that you called autistic and members of the "autism club" one of whom made a legitimate on topic reply to you, and one of whom was offended by your initial autistic remark.I realize that this is incredibly off topic, but I really do feel strongly about this issue and urge the moderating staff to take a more reasonable role in moderating this forum. It is a forum for the discussion of One Piece. Not a forum for flaming other members.
You are a bro. :ninja:
And still I wans't the one who started the off-topic.And I said it already, don't take everything on the internet seriously.
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Oda's obvious intentions of what we're supposed to believe the situation is, at least for now, seem to fade away for people as they begin the speculation process. Zoro initiates a fight against a pretty girl and doesn't cut her in half before Sanji walks in– it's for the a similar reason to why Chopper didn't want to hurt the kids, it's just not something any decent guy wants to do (not that Zoro wouldn't at all as the fight continues). Tashigi came in to make up for that.
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You are a bro. :ninja:
And still I wans't the one who started the off-topic.And I said it already, don't take everything on the internet seriously.
I realize that, and I try not to take the internet all too seriously. But stopping the use of words like gay, retarded, and autistic as stand-ins for stupid or dumb is important to me, and if I can stop just one person from doing it, it's worth taking the time. Anyway, back to the thread.
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I read the whole thread, and I gotta scratch my head at anyone wondering why Zoro didn't attack Monet. Maybe, cause he didn't have the chance? He spent the whole chapter protecting the crew from Monet. Doesn't seem like much of a mystery, there's only enough room for so much in this chapter. Also, not attacking women is Sanji's thing, not Zoro. That's….stupid.
On another note, Monet may just be the best female antagonist in this series. Is there someone I'm forgetting? She's so great! She's smart, skillful, and unflinching while fighting a group of people. I love how she's trying to taunt the crew, mocking them for being pirates, mocking Zoro, and her drug pushing on kids proves she's really evil. Screw Monet for nakama, I want an evil lady we can remember for years to come.
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Zoro held back cus he knew something was "off" about Monet's DF, that it was a synthetic logia. Hence curiosity held him back.
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Strelok is banned from the thread for the rest of the week, so just drop the insults folks, okay?
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Wait ,why do people even assume Zoro doesn't know CoA ,that would be Oda's real contradiction if I ever heard one
not only did he have Luffy confirm that BOTH Sanji and Zoro are capable of hurting Logia's ,he also had Zoro
single himself out in ch.685 as being the only one [[between He, Robin ,Nami ,Chopper]] that can combat a Logia.So now here comes this chapter Oda confirms Zoro's CoO, but all of a sudden he can't attack a Logia? I don't buy it at all.
I'm in the bunch that assume Zoro wasn't attacking because of prioritizing protecting the others over defeating Monet or
he simply doesn't wanna go all out with cutting shit down ,when there is poison gas floating around the factory.But I do support the Kinemon's Technique theory and holding back cause of his own overpowering CoA.
Either way ,the day Tashigi can use CoA and Zoro can't is the day I give OP alittle
break. Better yet , what was the point of Smoker scolding Tashigi about haki being the only way to beat Law's Room tech
if she indeed can use haki herself?It didn't go like that. Tashigi KNOWS Haki, but her level of mastery of it was not enough to protect herself from Law's powers.
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Zoro not knowing CoA at this point of the story would be retarded, especially when you consider that he was able to use it once all the way back during the Alabasta Arc when he fought Mr. 1.
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It didn't go like that. Tashigi KNOWS Haki, but her level of mastery of it was not enough to protect herself from Law's powers.
So thats what happened, was gonna check it my self but thanks alot for this man. It was driving me insane for a second.
Thought Oda was starting to retcon ,Ive been reading too much Naruto as of late.
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Zoro not knowing CoA at this point of the story would be retarded, especially when you consider that he was able to use it once all the way back during the Alabasta Arc when he fought Mr. 1.
And by the end of the episode, everything is back to normal.