It's been a few years, but I recall Pottermore saying Ravenclaws also had a more open-minded thinking. Hermione's thinking was too rigid and she had a hard time believing things without facts.
But, she did say the Sorting Hat almost put her in Ravenclaw.
It's been a few years, but I recall Pottermore saying Ravenclaws also had a more open-minded thinking. Hermione's thinking was too rigid and she had a hard time believing things without facts.
But, she did say the Sorting Hat almost put her in Ravenclaw.
Just thinking along those lines…
Lets also remember that the hat takes in the kid's request while sorting.
Remember that Hermione said on the train (on their way to Hogwarts for the 1st time) that she thought that Gryffindor was the best house and that Dumbledore was a Gryffindor (if there was one trait that define Hermione more than intelligence in the early years it was her worship of authority figures). I picture the hat making comments on what houses she fits and doesn't fit into just like it did with Harry. But while Harry was thinking "Not Slytherin.", Hermione would be projecting "Gryffindor!" to the hat.
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Remember that Ravenclaw isn't "house of the intelligent and smart", its "house of the wisdom and wit".
And yes there is a difference between intelligence and wisdom.
Having Bravery means they have the courage to control their fear and not let he fear control them. Hermione is an excellent example of this, something she's shown since 1st year.
Wasn't she always the voice of reason of the three and able to come with decent scheme? Anyway I'm not saying she's a perfect fit but that either ravenclaw or Hufflepuff made more sense. She certainly have some level of bravery(many kid of the school do) but they seem to be much more relevant and defining aspect to her personality.
Fandom exaggerated the traits of the houses, as do the books being from Harry's perspective. Its why so many people get upset about their sortings from the official quiz.
Hermione is the only one that troubles me. There's also Harry using Snape as an example of a good thing that came out of Slytherin but it doesn't have anything to do with the sorting. More that I'm surprise that the message he took from the flashback was that Snape was a good guy.
They are NOT the brave/smart/evil/leftovers houses and are not defined by just one trait.
I have a fairly fuzzy notion of the house. But I remember finishing the 7th book nd thinking that while the author did some effort with the other house, her entire books makes a strong why the Slytherin house is a place that breed aweful things. I don't think it was her intention but that is what she did.
Harry himself could have ended up in any one of the four houses, it was mostly his fast bond with Ron and dislike of Draco that led to him asking the hat to put him there, but he'd probably have been happier in Hufflepuff.
I can easily imagine Harry in Hufflepuff and Griffondor. He fits them well. Slytherin is an ok choice and he probably would have prospered in it. Ravenclaw tho, I don't imagine how Harry would end up there.
Also keep in mind at the time the story took place, things were still screwed over from Voldemort and the war. Slytherin had an entire generation and their children co-opted by Voldy and ambition, but thats because Voldy corrupted the lot of them, which is something that was cleansed off by the time of Harry's kids. The blood purism thing should have been wiped clean later too.
I'm not saying that you would necessarily turn bad if you end up in Slytherin just that ending in there should make you self-aware with the history of the house. They are really ambition driven and cunning. Two things that can increase your chance of being an asshole in order to succeed and not care about it, or make you want to much. Even their founder was the racist jerk of the bunch. Add the 2 last generation of the house and it is understandle why Harry's kid doesn't like that he ended up there.
How did he end up there, anyway? I thought Harry said he could avoid it if he really wanted to.
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How did he end up there, anyway? I thought Harry said he could avoid it if he really wanted to.
That was Rowling canon work. Remember that two guys cowrote The Cursed Child and Rowling gave it a go ahead.(I'm really not sure how much she helped write it with the amount of "fuck canon" is there… but then she DID write 7th book which has the same "fuck canon" flair....)
Albus ends up in Slytherin due to "It's fanfiction logic!" cliché = the writers wanted him to be there for the story. HOW he got there was less important than him being there for the sole fact him being in that house would allow him to become friends with Scoprious Malfoy.
The writers also added that there was supposedly a rift between Harry & Albus, so kids could think he went there to be different from his father. yippe … note how I am really convinced on that "fact".
Of all the things turning me off from reading Cursed Child - time travel, blatant pandering,
! Secret Voldemort Child etc, the prospect of angsty drama between Distant Super Awesome Destined Hero Father Harry and his son Boruto was the main one.
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Of all the things turning me off from reading Cursed Child - time travel, blatant pandering,
! Secret Voldemort Child etc, the prospect of angsty drama between Distant Super Awesome Destined Hero Father Harry and his son Boruto was the main one.
I agree with you on most, esp the [hide] surprise Voldemort child who really wants to know her father. He's a murderous monster what else is there?![/hide] though can you explain the "Pandering"… what is it pandering of/to? (chances are its something I'm thinking of but just am too 'dull-minded' to appoint the word pandering to it)
For me its also the "Absent-Minded Mary Sue"... I mean Minister Hermione Granger doing a Fudge moment
[hide]She is Minister, and given her history as part of the Golden Trio, she should have some really impressive wards and security on her office. Have a experimental time turner that can go back years. Agrees with Harry it should be destroyed, locks it up in mean time in her office. Only 2 boys who are only in 3rd year are able to BREAK IN HERMOINE'S OFFICE and steal it. Mind you they are not top of the class, Albus is said to be bad in classes, so how the hell would they break inot to the minister's office? Only if the defenses were either compromised ( it was peace-time and the Trio supposedly cleaned up the corruption inside the Ministry with Minister Shaklebolt so no Senior Malfoy to buy out or lessen the defences) or not set … would the Hermione of canon do such a Fudge moment? NO! [/hide]
Lets not forget the bad parenting.
[hide] Harry was surprisingly well-adjusted and stable kid, I do not see him being a father that would turn around and tell his youngest son he wished he(Albus) wasn't his son. [/hide]
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Yes its a total dick-move from fanfiction. [hide] At some point they have a father-son argument and Albus complains its not easy to be the son of "Boy Who Lived", saying he wished he wasn't Harry's son. Harry replies that he wished he (Albus) wasn't his son either.
I think the argument was over Albus' bad grades and Harry thought part of it was because his association with a Malfoy and wanted him to stop being friends with Scorpius. Also according to some sources (I refuse to buy the book) Harry contacted Headmistress McGonagall requesting that she separate the boys. Another 'lets be a dick-parent' bad fanfiction as Harry knows that once sorting happens, they stay in that house and room with their year-mates. There are no re-sorting. [/hide]
[hide] Harry was surprisingly well-adjusted and stable kid, I do not see him being a father that would turn around and tell his youngest son he wished he(Albus) wasn't his son. [/hide]
! Seems like a pretty stupid and harsh thing for Harry to say. Is there some kind of context to justify it(forced to do it for some reason)?
! I was always bothered by the fact Harry chose a dangerous job at the end of the last book considering his history. After losing his mom, dad and godfather to battle against evil, and Lupin(I think it was him) dying before his child was born, I had an hard time believing Harry would willingly chose to go into wizard police rather a more peaceful job
! Seems like a pretty stupid and harsh thing for Harry to say. Is there some kind of context to justify it(forced to do it for some reason)?
! I was always bothered by the fact Harry chose a dangerous job at the end of the last book considering his history. After losing his mom, dad and godfather to battle against evil, and Lupin(I think it was him) dying before his child was born, I had an hard time believing Harry would willingly chose to go into wizard police rather a more peaceful jobOn yeah it was OOC and yes there's supposedly context to 'explain' it. I don't buy it, its too OOC and one of the reasons I don't like the Cursed Child.
[hide] At some point they have a father-son argument and Albus complains its not easy to be the son of "Boy Who Lived", saying he wished he wasn't Harry's son. Harry replies that he wished he (Albus) wasn't his son either.
I think the argument was over Albus' bad grades and Harry thought part of it was because his association with a Malfoy and wanted him to stop being friends with Scorpius. Also according to some sources (I refuse to buy the book) Harry contacted Headmistress McGonagall requesting that she separate the boys. Another 'lets be a dick-parent' bad fanfiction as Harry knows that once sorting happens, they stay in that house and room with their year-mates. There are no re-sorting.
Actually Remus & Dora(aka Tonks) Lupin both died in the Battle of Hogwarts, so his son, Teddy, was already born but was either newborn or few months old at the time.
But more than the things you've listed… remember that Harry always wanted peace but only known about 'fighting the good fight'?
Yes Harry once said he wanted to be an auror back in 5th year. But I think that's because he didn't know of anything else of what he could do. Let's face it, McGonagall was a failure as a head of house. She rarely had any interaction with the students that wasn't yelling at them or teaching. First time they hear should hear about careers is at end of 2nd year when they are choosing electives for 3rd year since some jobs require certain classes (for example; Curse-breaking will need Runes as well as main classes while Healing also includes Divination) so they should know that before they get the career counseling in 5th year. But when it came time for Harry's year to choose electives, all she does is gives them pamphlets, no talk just pieces of paper.
And then there is the fiasco of Harry's counseling. Some see McGonagall's comment of 'helping Harry become an auror' as helpful, I saw it as obnoxious since she only said it to piss off Umbrage. It wasn't "Harry I like you so I'm going to help you" but a "I'm going to piss off this woman any way I can so I'll help you."
Also its what everyone expected from the Boy Who Lived. For him to fight for them, and Harry went along for the ride.
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On yeah it was OOC and yes there's supposedly context to 'explain' it. I don't buy it, its too OOC and one of the reasons I don't like the Cursed Child.
[hide] At some point they have a father-son argument and Albus complains its not easy to be the son of "Boy Who Lived", saying he wished he wasn't Harry's son. Harry replies that he wished he (Albus) wasn't his son either.
I think the argument was over Albus' bad grades and Harry thought part of it was because his association with a Malfoy and wanted him to stop being friends with Scorpius. Also according to some sources (I refuse to buy the book) Harry contacted Headmistress McGonagall requesting that she separate the boys. Another 'lets be a dick-parent' bad fanfiction as Harry knows that once sorting happens, they stay in that house and room with their year-mates. There are no re-sorting.[/hide]
Seems not only OOC but straight up stupid
! Bad grades? Harry's kid gets to be friend with Malfoy's and the drama is suppose to come from freaking bad grades?
! I mean you could easily have Albus causing trouble at school with Scorpius(like his dad and Sirius back when they were assholes) and Harry getting warned about that and maybe even milk it more by menacing suspension for both of them. Then it would be understandable that with his bad history with Malfoy family and the number of bad seeds they used to be in Slytherin, he would want them separated because he he thinks Scorpius is a bad influence. He could even inadvertantly (due to being worried), let out to Albius that he could become evil or go the same path as Voldemort.
! But seriously wether it is bad grades or Harry telling his son he wished he wasn't his son, that's OOC, silly and stupid. I mean seriously… BAD GRADES?????
! Actually Remus & Dora(aka Tonks) Lupin both died in the Battle of Hogwarts, so his son, Teddy, was already born but was either newborn or few months old at the time.
! But more than the things you've listed… remember that Harry always wanted peace but only known about 'fighting the good fight'?
! Yes Harry once said he wanted to be an auror back in 5th year. But I think that's because he didn't know of anything else of what he could do. Let's face it, McGonagall was a failure as a head of house. She rarely had any interaction with the students that wasn't yelling at them or teaching. First time they hear should hear about careers is at end of 2nd year when they are choosing electives for 3rd year since some jobs require certain classes (for example; Curse-breaking will need Runes as well as main classes while Healing also includes Divination) so they should know that before they get the career counseling in 5th year. But when it came time for Harry's year to choose electives, all she does is gives them pamphlets, no talk just pieces of paper.
! And then there is the fiasco of Harry's counseling. Some see McGonagall's comment of 'helping Harry become an auror' as helpful, I saw it as obnoxious since she only said it to piss off Umbrage. It wasn't "Harry I like you so I'm going to help you" but a "I'm going to piss off this woman any way I can so I'll help you."
! Also its what everyone expected from the Boy Who Lived. For him to fight for them, and Harry went along for the ride.
! My feeling at the end when Harry is revealed to be an auror is that the author appealed to the fanbase rather than what he would have actually done. Every aspect of Harry's life and his thoughts in general pointed to someone who would want a life of peace, away from battle and unnecessary risk. I imagined him maybe becoming professor or the minister of magic.
! I never considered McGonagall a particularly good House head. She was rather forgettable in that role and limited as much as she could. I always picture her as Dombledore's right-hand woman or chief of the disciplinary of the school. I think Snape was fine as an Head of House. As far as helping Harry's go, I'm sure she would have if Harry asked, Umbrage just gave her the push to not just let Harry to his own device. I picture it as a mixture of both her willingness to help student and piss Umbrage.
though can you explain the "Pandering"… what is it pandering of/to? (chances are its something I'm thinking of but just am too 'dull-minded' to appoint the word pandering to it)
I mean pandering in the sense of remixing old situations and characters; the pandering vibe comes as a result of the time travel, with stuff like
! revisiting the death of Cedric Diggory, and stuff like
! Voldemort having a kid. It just reads like lazy fanservice to me; "here's those things you remember. But with a twist!"
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Yes its a total dick-move from fanfiction. [hide] At some point they have a father-son argument and Albus complains its not easy to be the son of "Boy Who Lived", saying he wished he wasn't Harry's son. Harry replies that he wished he (Albus) wasn't his son either.
I think the argument was over Albus' bad grades and Harry thought part of it was because his association with a Malfoy and wanted him to stop being friends with Scorpius. Also according to some sources (I refuse to buy the book) Harry contacted Headmistress McGonagall requesting that she separate the boys. Another 'lets be a dick-parent' bad fanfiction as Harry knows that once sorting happens, they stay in that house and room with their year-mates. There are no re-sorting. [/hide]
! What
That is the dumbest fucking thing. If theres anyone that should be lenient in terms of bad grades and shenanigans at school, it should be Harry Fucking Dumb Jock Potter. And he's got beef with Malfoys kid?
The whole seventh book was focused on painting the Malfoys in a more positive light! They're clearly on better terms in the epilogue than they've ever been! Harry named his son after a Slytherin, and said its fine if Albus ends up there!!! HARRY OWES MALFOYS MOTHER HIS GODDAMN LIFE!
! Also, apparently the play features Harry having bad dreams and pain in his scar.
Despite the final words of the book being "His scar hadn't hurt in 19 years. All was well".
! "-BUT THEN A YEAR AFTER THAT HIS SCAR ACTED UP ONCE MORE, RUH ROH HERE WE GO AGAAAAAAAIN"
! Yeah, not gonna read this.
That fan fic book just seems like utter trash. xD
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Remember that two guys cowrote The Cursed Child and Rowling gave it a go ahead.(I'm really not sure how much she helped write it with the amount of "fuck canon" is there… but then she DID write 7th book which has the same "fuck canon" flair....)
hey, do you mind expanding on that?
I'm just curious because I can't recall anything in the 7th book that goes against what was stated in the previous books…
and I'm like really interesting in what may come out of this.
hey, do you mind expanding on that?
I'm just curious because I can't recall anything in the 7th book that goes against what was stated in the previous books…
and I'm like really interesting in what may come out of this.
Icould leave it at one thing =parceltounge, but will add the fidelus charm and the Longbottom/Belatrix conflict as well.
The incosistancy of the facts of Parseltounges.= In book 2 we learn that its rare, "it can't be learned". Its the whole basis of why the school turns on Harry. Yet what happens in book 7? Ron opens the Chamber! He supposedly remembered what sort of hissing Harry did when he opened the locket to destroy it. Well that's pure crap.
1- they were highly emotional at the time, esp. Ron as the locket targeted him and his weakness.
2- Without the power of parceltounge, a human hissing is just sound and sounds alike.
3- Really? Anyone can hiss! As a woman I can tell you that when girls get angry we may hiss, its often the sound of letting out air forcefully. I've done that when trying to calm down. ITs a school filled with kids. we are to believe in 50 years there was never an angry girl that let out a hiss? Remember that from Riddle's time to Harry's 2nd year, it wasn't opened.
So yeah Ron opening the chamber because he was "able to imitate Harry hissing "open"" is a total re-write and sounds like fanfiction.
The Problem of the Fidelius Charm and consistancy - Remember when Bill explained Shell Cottage was under Fidelus charm with himself as the secret keeper?Also the Weasleys were staying at their Aunt Murial's place with Arthur being the secret keeper that. So if the secret keeper could actually live at the location that's under the charm, why couldn't James or Lily be their own secret keeper?
The anger of Neville Longbottom, the danger of Belatrix Lestrnage and the non-experience of Molly Weasley creates the most anti-climatic ending to a feud in the series. = Remember the bad blood between Longbottom & Lestrangegs, esp. Neville and Bellatrix? It was their escape that made Neville focus in the DA meetings, there were times Neville got the spell before Hermione! Then the animosity between them in Ministry. We were lead to think that Neville was growing up that he was gaining the confidence to face off with the person that effectively destroyed his parents just as Harry was to face off with the one who destroyed his own parents … but in book 7 during the final battle, did Neville finally get revenge for his parents, did he get his shining moment that showed the culmination of his growth? Nope. It was the housewife, Molly, who was NEVER shown to be a fighter, never had any combat experience that killed Bellatrix LeStrange.
Rowling claimed it was to showcase "good mother vs bad mother". I call bullshit on that as we never see Bellatrix being a mother, only a psycho. Also I have a rant on my profile page on Fanfiction on why Molly may be a good person but she is not the great mother others say she is .
Oh These don't counteract the other books but still are part of the whole 'book 7 feels like fanfiction'
Hermione and the obliviations. Remember how she obliviated her parents? This means make them forget majority of last 18 years since she made them forget having a daughter…. wait its more than that! She also made them forget their real identity, giving them false names. Remember when DEs found them at a café? I bet a lot of people forgot that Hermione baulked at the idea of obliviating the location from him. Stating she didn't know how to do them and may mess up his mind. Really a scum-bag Death Eater got more worry than her own Parents?! and the amount she oblivatiated from her parents wasn't just a few minutes like it would be for the scumbag.
Hedwig's death vs Dobby's death = Yes Harry cared about both, but cared after the death only for Dobby. It was like once they landed, Hedwig was forgotten, Harry was not shown grieving for his old friend that helped him stay sane at the Durselys.
is explained away by Rowling saying it was to show the end of his childhood. Another thing I call bullshit on. 1- He was 17, that birthday would have been seen as ending his childhood. 2- The death of a CAGED owl symbolizes the death of Harry's childhood? Really? IT was that and not when he was kidnapped, saw the death of a class mate, used as part of a resurrection ritual that revived the monster that killed his parents, then was tortured by the same man that killed his parents? That was not the symbolized moment of the end of his childhood instead it was the death of his pet? Only thing can sum that up = WTF
The incosistancy of the facts of Parseltounges
Ron didn't learn or actually speak the language. He just made snake sounds in front of a pipe he knew for fact was activated by snake sounds. It'd be BS if he did it completely randomly in the middle of nowhere during book two… but when you know the exact spot to say the secret password you can cheese it a little.
So if the secret keeper could actually live at the location that's under the charm, why couldn't James or Lily be their own secret keeper?
There's convenience and then there's secrecy. Because they were both up there on the wanted list. If either of them was caught, that'd give up the other by default. But if no one knows who their third person was (and hey, in fact, no one did know who their actual third was) then their secret then it's safe.
Like having internet sites remember your passwords, but still needing a password when you start you computer up. Different layers of security.
Absolutely nothing matches the madness of how insane or convoluted the master plot of Goblet of Fire is.
**The anger of Neville Longbottom
All of Hogwarts got shortchanged for the camping trip. But Neville got to take up the mantle and lead after Harry died, pull the sword of Griffindor and kill the last Horcrux. His growth wasn't for naught.And sometimes, just because you want to see a certain showdown happen doesn't mean that's how it's going to happen. Goes against expectations. That one's just a personal feeling more than a real plothole or inconsistency.
Hermione and the obliviations.
Presumably with her parents she did it slow and by the book with specific instructions, with the ability to reverse it later. Later on she only had a few seconds, and might have permanently fried his memory. Distinct difference.**
Hedwig's death vs Dobby's death = Yes Harry cared about both, but cared after the death only for Dobby. It was like once they landed, Hedwig was forgotten, Harry was not shown grieving for his old friend that helped him stay sane at the Durselys.
is explained away by Rowling saying it was to show the end of his childhood. Another thing I call bullshit on. 1- He was 17, that birthday would have been seen as ending his childhood. 2- The death of a CAGED owl symbolizes the death of Harry's childhood? Really? IT was that and not when he was kidnapped, saw the death of a class mate, used as part of a resurrection ritual that revived the monster that killed his parents, then was tortured by the same man that killed his parents? That was not the symbolized moment of the end of his childhood instead it was the death of his pet? Only thing can sum that up = WTF
I'd expect the death of a non-sentient animal to have less weight than the death of a sentient creature whom Harry had known since his second year and had done multiple things to help Harry, especially given the more sacrificial nature of Dobby's death as opposed to Hedwig getting hit by a random killing curse. (Yeah, Dobby died unintentionally as well, but it had a lot more effect given what he was doing in that situation. The movies actually portrayed Hedwig's death better with her defending Harry from the Death Eaters).
Plus, Mad Eye Moody was also killed in the battle, who had also had an impact on Harry's life (even if it wasn't him himself :P), and from what I remember the period after the journey was a time of mourning. I don't think Harry just forgot about Hedwig after she died.
Bellatrix Lestrange getting killed by Molly fucking Weasley will always be the dumbest fucking shit and I don't care what crap Rowling comes up with about her hidden potential or the strength of a mother. Bellatrix was one of Voldemort's most powerful deatheaters, a powerful dark wizard that killed many experienced Aurors as well as Sirius. That it wasn't Harry or Neville who took her down and instead dumpy Molly Weasley makes no sense from a narrative or thematic standpoint. It's like if in One Piece, Mihawk was beaten by Helmeppo, it's just completely random and nonsensical and accomplishes nothing except removing an obstacle.
Wormtail's fate was much more rushed and random and not satisfying.
Aside from the like dozen main characters that died off camera.
That fan fic book just seems like utter trash. xD
So, when we're saying fanfiction here, we're just implying this is really bad fanfiction, right? And not that fanfiction is inherently bad or anything? (This isn't directed at you specifically, Majin. Just asking in general)
Because assuming that fanfiction is inherently bad is misguided. It's understandable, since there's loads of awful fanfic out there (my personal cringe favorite: Sailor Moon meets Peter Capaldi's Doctor from Doctor Who), and it's harder to find good fanfic, but I don't like the idea of people scoffing at things just because it's "fanfiction". Is it just the nasty baggage that the word carries that people scoff at?
Because fanfic is what keeps long-lasting properties going. Like Doctor Who, or all sorts of comic properties (Superman, etc.). It's just more professionally done and carefully thought out than some, but you can argue that what they're doing now is fanfic, in a sense. And that's ok!
But yes, in terms of Cursed Child, I totally agree that it's awful fanfic.
While there are some good fanfic's are out there; when we compare a published book to fanfic, its usually in the negative.
By calling a published book a fanfic, we are saying it comes across as badly written, either in characters (their development or OOC in an established series), overall plot (from badly written or a nice plot but bad development to plot holes and deux ex mechana{if misspelled it fits then}) or not edited (bad spelling, grammar, loose ends not covered), or a combination of any and all.
Cursed child had a bad plot, bad original character (You-know-who's-what), OOC established characters (both Harry and Hermione suffer badly) and bad plot (from the WTF time-travel to a baby BLANKET that's obviously magical (Really doubt magic-phobic Petunia would keep it over a day much less 20+ years) being a deux ex mechana).
Rather than dwelling on cursed child, how about we go back to the best fanfic?*
I'm not dwelling on it anymore. My answers here were just side jaunts as I rest my eyes from reading PH fanfic's. Just finished the "Humor Me" avery cracky spoof/parody from StormyFireDragon. Extreme OOC abound, bad Dumbles and insane Moldeshots (yes writer keeps calling him by different versions) but is done at writer's admittance and for extreme parody. Hogwarts is sentient and is fed up with old fools. HArry's magic has a wild aspect to it that reacts to threats in a comical way. Such as when Vernon tries to beat him, a garden hose animates and ties him to a tree branch. Or when Dumbledore tries to blame Harry for weird things happen, he suddenly has extreme gas.
To give a hint of what extreme OOC parody=
"ALBUS DUMBLEDORE," yelled Minerva. "HOW DARE YOU TRY AND INVADE THE MIND OF A STUDENT?"
By now the entire hall was listening to the conversation. Albus was trying to say that he had nothing to do with it and that the voice was lying. Minerva slapped him across the face. When she was done, Poppy stood up and repeated the gesture. From there Pomona took a shot. Filius came up next with a lead pipe and belted him one. Leslie Neilson came up next and slapped the old man. From there a nun with a guitar came up and crashed the instrument over his head. After that a hooker came up and hit him with her purse. Hagrid walked up next cracking his knuckles. Severus was wearing an evil grin on his face as he took a swing with a baseball bat. Sybil Trelawney was waving her tennis racket. An old lady sprayed him in the face with pepper spray. Harry looked around in shock. There was a line of people waiting to take a crack at Dumbledore that made a circuit of the hall all the way to the door.
"Where did all of these people come from?" asked Harry looking around. "Isn't that a priest punching the Head Master in the stomach?"
"It is," said Hermione in awe. "It looks like the Pope is next."
Going back to re-read Miranda Flairgold's series beginning with A Second Chance at Life, then will reread Changes in Time of War. These are one of the few that I really re-read multiple times. Both are mega long 251,000 to 345,000 words. There are some misspelling but the plot is well done that they can be over-looked. Characters get some development, even the OC one that are in it but its one of the more nicely written fics out there overall. Only bad thing to say about it is that the 3 installment of the trilogy was only 2 chapters long before Miranda disappeared and never finished the trilogy. ITs certainly not the usual fanfic. Different school, near war between magical races, Basilisks are not a 'magically created beast' but actual animal that has several species, Demons (not the religious type but dimensional aliens), real Elves (think high elves of folklore, only they are also 'aliens' of a type), magical plagues, and more. Atlantis and 7 seals existed in the past
And yes it does have time travel in it, its done a bit better than Cursed Child as A- it was an accident, B- it was some ancient device that not some modern technique, c- they were determined not to change the future, d- went really, really far into the past, not within their own lifetimes so chance of temporal paradox is less.
Oh Harry Potter fanfiction. How many days did I waste on thee?
Oh Harry Potter fanfiction. How many days did I waste on thee?
For me the question is not how many days but hours. I read fanfiction every day!
For me the question is not how many days but hours. I read fanfiction every day!
That's what I basically mean. I especially when I was unemployed I'd read them day in day out. Lol. Hours became days. Days became months.
Now I'm slightly tempted to go back and find the stories I was reading that were ongoing and hella lenghty.
That's what I basically mean. I especially when I was unemployed I'd read them day in day out. Lol. Hours became days. Days became months.
Now I'm slightly tempted to go back and find the stories I was reading that were ongoing and hella lenghty.
Now you got me curious to which ones you read…. esp for lengthy ones.
Have you read "Cold Blood" by DerLaCroix? Its nice and long,, over 200,000 words. It goes along the premise of how basilisk venom and phoenix tears could cause a change in Harry. While there are many stories in that trope, Cold Blood actually done sensibly and makes some sense,(I won't spoil it but just say there is a 3rd element in play nor are the changes same as what most other stories have) nor are the changes rushed.
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For a totally fun -but short as under 5,000 words- read, there is "Harry's Little Army of Psychos" by RuneWitchSakura =
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Oneshot from Ron’s POV. Ron tries to explain to the twins just how Harry made the Ministry of Magic make a new classification for magical creatures, and why the puffskeins were now considered the scariest magical creature of all time. No pairings.
Fantastic Beasts made 75 million domestic over the weekend, plus 143 international for 218 million debut. A tiiiiny bit lower than the lowest Potter films, (Phoenix and Half Blood Prince did 77 million opening weekend, the others did 90-100… and the last one did 170) but still one of the best films of the year and pretty solid opening.
Which is good news considering they want to make five films out of it.
Still haven't seen it, might take a while.
I was truly sceptical at first, but I think Fantastic Beasts REALLY delivered. Which is extra impressive, considering the amount of bagage a revamp of the Harry Potter universe has to consider. Unlike The Hobbit triology, there wasn't a whole lot of that ''oh hey, remember this guy from the other movies? Wink wink '' . It's obvious Yates has a lot of appreciation for this world and especially vision, he really captures the essence of the Harry Potter universe. I recognise that there will be a big split in the fanbase though, with some people worshipping the new addition and the other half hating it. Eddie Redmayne killed it as well, hopefully to the point we can leave the Jupiter Ascending stuff behind us forever. But just because it's hilarious, I'll remind you of it one last time:
Beasts is easily one of the best Potter films.
I saw it and hated it.
! All the scenes with actually finding and catching magical beasts were fun but sadly they play a really minor part in the movie. The script has a really unfocused feel with it throwing too many characters and subplots at once and none of the characters with the exception of the fat guy Jacob (who was hands down the best character) had any real dimension or arcs to them. They were all flat and boring especially Redmayne's character who doesn't grow or change in the slightest. The villain was very one dimensional with barely explained motivations and he rarely even crosses path with Eddie Redmayne! Hell, the third act felt completely unconnected to the first two acts, Eddie Redmayne needed a bullshit plot device to even get involved. There are just no stakes in this movie, the main character is completely oblivious to the A plot of the movie till near the very end!
! The twist with
! Grindewald felt so forced and unneccessary, the only reason it makes sense at all that Grindewald is in the movie was because of a rushed and poorly explained newspaper montage at the start of the movie. Not to mention how his motivations are never really explained or how he exposed himself makes no sense or how it just fucks up with the lore. But hey, these movies need to be a franchise so i guess we need a 1930s Voldemort! I guess between killing Dumbledore's sister and his final battle with Dumbledore, Grindewald spent some time in American wizard prison. And for some reason they didn't kill him, oh yes they have the death penalty in Magic Congress, for the most minor magic exposing crimes too! They don't use Avada Kedavra though, just some weird, overly elaborate chair over a pit of black goo acid.
! Magic Congress fucking sucked, it's run by the most boring and inept buffoons around. They made the Ministry of Magic look competent and the Ministry was supposed to be run by buffoons and they WEREN'T BORING. They flat out murdered an innocent, tortured person and the movie never dwells on their actions or really frames them appropriately as the bastards they are. The main character never chews them out on it or really reacts to it, it was the villain who even bothered chewing them out! They completely failed to hide magic from New York and it required a completely bullshit deus ex machina where a Griffon can somehow create Obliviate rain to erase everyone's memories (which somehow works on people inside…and erases any pictures taken....). Then they tell Eddie Redmayne to erase their fat friend's memories because THERE CAN BE NO WITNESSES and instead of telling them to fuck off, they just do it! Where does Magic Congress get off telling anyone to do anything when the most evil Dark Wizard in history has been in their upper echelons for who knows how long!
! It's just a mess of a movie. It was a mistake to let J.K Rowling write this, she is not good at screenwriting. In books, you have time to build up characters and explore different ideas but in a movie, you have two hours plus to set everything up in a cohesive three act structure as well as explore inner character monologues and thoughts to set up characters. She just throws in too many subplots and characters and are not given enough focus. We didn't need the orphanage plot or the senator plot or the Dementor like poltergeist plot or
! Grindewald. The movie should have just been a nice, simple story about some guy on holiday in America being contracted to hunt magical beasts because some asshole is trying to expose magic and releasing them in New York. We could have had a nice, fun movie about tracking and capturing different beasts for the whole movie culminating in a show down between the guy who loves magical beasts and the guy who exploits them for his own means. Nice, fun, simple, to the point and relatable. But instead we got a bunch of uninteresting plot threads, most of which went nowhere culminating in a movie with a warped structure and very poor pacing. It's just a waste of potential.
! Again, there are GOOD things. The effects are great, the whimiscal magic was fun and I liked ONE character! But for me personally the movie got a lot of fundamentals wrong. When it comes to movies with a character exploring a magical world, I found Doctor Strange far superior. Complain all you want about how standard and rote the plot was, formulas work for a reason. It was predictable but well structured, well executed and driven by three dimensional characters who i cared about.
! This was just a mess.
I actually really liked the film. I think it made a nice addition to the Potter series. Do I mind that they're adding more films to the franchise? No, of course not! I mean, Rowling is making her debut as a screenwriter so why should she be berated for attempting to pencil in a new story into her series? I hope to see more of them in the future.
I loved it. The main characters were pretty fun together.
And, for the first time, 3D wasn't a huge annoyance to me, since the theater had these clip-on 3D glasses.
I thought the movie was pretty bad, haha. It kept my attention and I didn't hate it, so I couldn't call it awful, but it was pretty disjointed.
! The biggest complaint I have is that the Credence plot seems unrelated to the magical beasts stuff. It doesn't intersect at all, except that Newt has one of those black smoke things in his purse? I mean I guess he uses his understanding to try and talk him down, but he doesn't succeed, and the whole climax fight has nothing to do with the recapturing of the magical beasts that. It feels like there were two plots just sorta spliced together.
! There's also a bunch of other elements that don't really fit in anywhere, like the subplot with the newspaper baron and his sons. There wasn't really any payoff to introducing them as characters besides giving Credence a victim. Likewise, Modesty doesn't end up doing anything at all, despite some amount of focus. I know she was a red herring, but the time spend on her and the fact that she had a wand implied that there was more to her that we never got to see.
! The finale was pretty nonsensical. I'm fine with 'downer endings', but I don't think Credence should have died like that, since we're given no reason to believe Newt would fail to help him. Beyond that, though, he immediately ends up sucking off the people who killed Credence by doing their dirty work in erasing everyone's memories (which he seemed pretty against throughout the movie). After all that, he then has to give up Kowalski for some reason? That felt like a pointless loss, since no one offers any explanation as to why they should besides 'that's how we do things'. These ending events were so weird to me, that I thought Grindelwald was actually getting a heroic moment when he turned against the president and her gang who had moments prior murdered a child, and was confused as to why Newt stopped him.
! I did like some of the effects, the briefcase thing, and though I felt his plot had no place in the movie, I think Credence was a decent character and could have been a good villain somewhere else. As I said before, the overall package didn't offend me, but the more I think about it, the more it falls apart.
! Also, Newt and Kowalski totally should have ended up together, since the other romantic pairings feel forced in comparison to their chemistry.
The film was all over the place.
Really didn't like any of the characters, the story was uninteresting, payoffs were non-existent.
The "Beasts" were nothing more than a series of "Look at this! Look at that!" CGI-fest.
Eddie Redmayne not looking at things properly was hilarious. He just won't put his eyes to something! Probably because they aren't there in the first place, but still.
Pros: Samantha Morton was good, Colin Farrell I sorta liked. Haven't heard about the cameo so I was surprised by that.
They're really going to make four more of this? Damn.
The movie definetely had issues, but overall I enjoyed it. The disparate story elements could've been integrated a bit better
! (when they went "and now, lets catch the remaining beasts!" after the escape from the ministry, it felt pretty jarring), but I thought it came together well enough in the end. At the very least, its a series of mostly compelling scenes that actually got me invested, and
! made me empathize with Credence. Given that a bit of black smoke skulked away, I don't think he's necessarily all dead yet.
And the ending is probably the most emotionally compelling any of the Potter movies have ever been to me. Dan Fogler was easily the MVP of the movie; I loved both his interactions and friendship with Redmayne, his wonder at the magical world, and his budding romance. PLaying off all that for ending pathos was a smart move, and if nothing else, the ending shot is pitch perfect.
Overall I thought the movie avoided a lot of the shittier prequel/franchise-building trappings, with one unfortunate and major exception towards the end:
! The Grindelwald reveal is pretty godddamn terrible and doesn't work. At all. It undermines him as a shadowy legendary mastermind by making him come off as a Scooby Doo villain ("it was old man Willikins all along!"), Newt removing his disguise comes across as random and lazy, and the swap from actually-intimidating Colin Farell whom we've spent the entire film with to ridiculous looking Johnny Depp #54b is emotionally unsatisfying.
Apart from that, some fun scenes, good performances, and a comparatively lean, simple backbone for the story ("retrieve magic beasties") made it enjoyable for me.
But then again, it got a ton of bonus points for letting me see an Erumpent on the big screen.
Stupid internet problems ate most of my comment.
I’ll be brief.
! - The film feels less like Harry Potter and more like Doctor Who
! Overall, I thought it was mediocre, and it doesn't make me excited for the next installment.
It was pretty decent based on entertainment factor, setting, atmosphere, and, above anything else, the scenes with the beasts. While not the most awe inspiring, super creative scenes ever, they had tons of charm. I specially liked the scene with that kinda-rhino-thingie, when Redmayne starting doing a half-goofy half-serious animal impression to get its attention. I don't know, something about it basically told you everything you need to know about Newt as a character. It was even, dare I say, touching.
That said, I share some of Wagomu's complaints with 1-the different plot threads bloating the movie AND not being particularly well put together, and. . .
! . . .2-the ending almost made the bad guy look way more righteous than the group of super asshole magicians who just murdered a kid that could be saved. Newt should've been ANGRY at what just happened, and instead. . .he just volunteers to fulfill their near insane demands, loosing a dear friend in the process. Pretty infuriating turn of events, honestly.
! Like, are we supposed to root for the american association of magicians? They're pictured as legitimate assholes most of the time, and Gulliver/Gilthunder/whathever Collin Depp's character's name is, while also a legit asshole, does point some stuff to them that they can't even answer. Why does Newt side with them so immediately, too?
Also, there's quite a bit of completely superfluous, boring and lifeless characters in here (could Jon Voight be any LESS interested and passionate in this movie? Holy crap was he dull as hell). Those Salem anti magician people are like. . .super ultra mega boring.
Problems aside, I stand by what I said at the beginning: perfectly decent movie, when it tries to be a sheer exercise in wonder, zaniness and shenanigans, it shines the brightest; when it tries to get serious or tries to juggle different plot lines, it gets kinda boring.
Interested to see what's in store in the sequels, honestly.
Okay this I did not expect… I was browsing through LiveScience and found this=
Hat-Shaped Spider Named for Magical Object in 'Harry Potter'
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Is that Ron under the hat in the pic next to the spider?
Am I the only one who thinks its funny that all of the people under the hat, they used Ron who has arachnophobia?
That looks like Ron alright.
^I thought that was common knowledge for a while
Didn't read that article, but I remember her confirming it a few years back when somebody asked about one of the earlies audiobooks of the Philisopher's Stone pronouncing it with the silent T.
In other news, Niantic is creating "Harry Potter Go". I have no faith in it being a good game, to be honest. They dropped the ball(pun intended) so hard with Pokemon Go, I'm honestly surprised this is still happening. Fully expecting it to be barely functional and pay-to-play with it's mechanics if you want to really continue to play it.
At least Pokemon has the collective aspect behind it. And that's pretty much the ONLY thing in PMG, outside of Gyms to get in-game-money compared to spending real world money. To buy items to get more Pokemon. So I don't really know how well they'll be able to adapt Harry Potter in an interesting way for this concept.
^I thought that was common knowledge for a while
Didn't read that article, but I remember her confirming it a few years back when somebody asked about one of the earlies audiobooks of the Philisopher's Stone pronouncing it with the silent T.
In other news, Niantic is creating "Harry Potter Go". I have no faith in it being a good game, to be honest. They dropped the ball(pun intended) so hard with Pokemon Go, I'm honestly surprised this is still happening. Fully expecting it to be barely functional and pay-to-play with it's mechanics if you want to really continue to play it.
At least Pokemon has the collective aspect behind it. And that's pretty much the ONLY thing in PMG, outside of Gyms to get in-game-money compared to spending real world money. To buy items to get more Pokemon. So I don't really know how well they'll be able to adapt Harry Potter in an interesting way for this concept.
I assume you collect resources to craft potions for use in massive multiplayer battles against Death Eaters.
Basically someone used tech to ghost write an unofficial Harry Potter book?
Yeah, an auto-generator was trained on the first 7 books and made its own chapter in the series. The result is beautiful.
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