The "since when were you under the impression" has gone official.
Bleach Discussion 0: Hello Darkness my old friend
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Someone on 4chan also posted the page which made the original statement regarding the petals, and it's coming from some Arrancar speculating.
Has there ever been any statement regarding that limit by a shinigami or in some official fashion by Kubo? -
To be fair, the ice petals thing being a countdown to full power was hinted quite some time ago during one arrancar fight (Can't be bothered to search) so it's not really an asspull for once.
I remember the fight you're referring to, or at least when it took place. It was the Soul Reapers' first real fight with the Arrancar. I remember everyone at least assumed it was a countdown for the bankai's usability. So this plus Bishiegaya is, at best, coming off as a retcon to my own mind.
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To be fair, the ice petals thing being a countdown to full power was hinted quite some time ago during one arrancar fight (Can't be bothered to search) so it's not really an asspull for once.
Not really; It was the arrancar doing the "let me explain your abilitys countdown to you" spiel, which is Kubos loophole now…but back then Hitsu did nothing to correct the notion that it was a countdown to the end, and once the fight with Scissor-arrancar ended and he lost his final petal, he promptly was knocked the heck out.
Plus, if this was planned all along, it begs the question of why shrimpos main strategy up 'till now wasn't stalling for time so he could power up.
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@Daz:
Not really; It was the arrancar doing the "let me explain your abilitys countdown to you" spiel, which is Kubos loophole now…but back then Hitsu did nothing to correct the notion that it was a countdown to the end, and once the fight with Scissor-arrancar ended and he lost his final petal, he promptly was knocked the heck out.
Well, why would he correct him?
Him being knocked out might make some sense considering he was simply not trained enough to handle his full Bankai. That has been a theme for him since forever.
@Daz:Plus, if this was planned all along, it begs the question of why shrimpos main strategy up 'till now wasn't stalling for time so he could power up.
Lack of training to handle the full power of his Bankai. I think it was explicitly stated he trained over the timeskip, and we haven't seen him in a full battle with his Bankai since then (?).
Now don't get me wrong, though: I also highly doubt Kubo had this planned out. I consider the fact that Byakuya seems also to think the petals are the Bankai time limit to be more of an evidence of that being the case, or at the very least bad writing.
However, I don't think there's any real plot holes caused by this. I might be wrong, though. -
@Daz:
Not really; It was the arrancar doing the "let me explain your abilitys countdown to you" spiel, which is Kubos loophole now…but back then Hitsu did nothing to correct the notion that it was a countdown to the end, and once the fight with Scissor-arrancar ended and he lost his final petal, he promptly was knocked the heck out.
Plus, if this was planned all along, it begs the question of why shrimpos main strategy up 'till now wasn't stalling for time so he could power up.
After checking, there was one petal remaining. It's the second to last one that was dissolving. http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/211
And the arrancar was speculating. If your enemy is wrong, I see no reason to correct him. It would be dumb from a strategic point of view to explain one of your trump cards (and it's one of those cheap twist Kubo like so much). It's a rare occurrence in Bleach though.
Now for the stalling, I completely agree, especially when Shrimpo had his ass handed to him more than once before. It would have made sense for him to hide within a ice capsule or something. But it's Bleach we are talking about, where stealthy assassins fight with giant lasers. It's more a problem of general execution than foreshadowing IMO.Anyway, back in the day, I was still a bit invested in Bleach and always thought that the petals were leading to a power-up. To me, this reveal is not really a surprise and feel more like another checkbox to tick in Kubo's list before the end of the manga. Just like Kenpachi shikai/bankai.
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Maybe Hitsugaya himself let out the false information of his Bankai, much like Aizen did with his Shikai.
And he's actually a villain. Allied with Aizen or not, I'm still not sure.
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Or ForeverWorld with his caps clickbait-y thumbnails
He also looks and sounds like a real life troll except he lives in his moms basement and not under a bridge lol.
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please keep the thread title
it's still highly relevant this chapter
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Maybe he'll lose like always.
Maybe Momo will step in and reveal a Bankai of her own. Maybe Shinji will actually do something of relevance and use his Bankai too!
There's still hope for this battle to get good, r-right?
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How long have we been in this "final arc" ? It's really starting to drag now…
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@Mr0:
How long have we been in this "final arc" ? It's really starting to drag now…
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no different than the naruto war dragging on except you have to understand that bleach chapters have little in them so 3 bleach chapters would equal one chapter worth of content of a different series.
please keep the thread title
it's still highly relevant this chapterThe thread title would be highly relevant until the end of this manga lol.
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@Mr0:
How long have we been in this "final arc" ? It's really starting to drag now…
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Four years.
Huh. This year marks Bleach's 15 year anniversary. Will it end like Naruto did in its 15 year anniversary?
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Did I already lose that bet, Daz?
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I read that chapter in less than a minute, I swear
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Hasn't this guy demolished Seireitei like eight times over by now
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Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.
Statler: No you haven't.
Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!
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It's been exactly 100 chapters since Rukia's Bankai.
And how much has she accomplished since then again?
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Right here :)
Although now I'm forgetting what chapter I guessed to be the end….
Sorry for not giving due credit. Couldn't remember who it was.
Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.
Statler: No you haven't.
Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!
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Could someone remind me why we're supposed to care about any of the things that are happening besides checklist-crossing
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Kenpachi will never live it down if Vanilla Ice beats this guy instead of him.
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Am I the only one who noticed the similarity of Kenpach to Gremmy?
His body couldn't take it.
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It's a miracle! Superglue your halfs together!
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Does this mean Hitsugaya is this arc's Yoruichi/Nelliel?
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"Who said Espada numbers go from 1-10?", the shota edition.
"Who said my story has to be good or make sense?" -Titty Kubo
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Not Akuma's body has reached it's limit in his fight against Not Thor. Also, Hitsugaya's balls finally dropped. Ok then…....
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At least make it something to a crack a smile at, Kubo. Hitsugaya has unleashed his ultimate bishonen form, but why am I expecting him to invoke Freeza and say "I've only got five minutes in this form", and then it translates to like 4.5 chapters.
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He should have just made this story about Hitsugaya. With Ichigo being a side character or something.
The story is practically there now anyway.
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Hey look its Icehigo
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He looked way too much like Ichigo…
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Bleach Discussion 0: Who said the petals went from 1 to 10?
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Zaraki goes berserk, and then falls on his face, so we're back at square one. Now Hitsugaya is gonna do some new shit, which will almost lead nowhere with the trend that's been going on…
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Is Byakuya gonna shrink to look like Tensa Zangetsu now?
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Bleach: The Same Face Awakens, The Smug Menace, Ichigos Face Strikes Back. :ninja:
Kubo: Hmm, what should I do to make bleach more popular again…Oh I know, I am going to make Hitsugaya a older pretty boy with ichigos face to appeal to the hitsugaya fangirls even more.
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Fuck Tite!!! This was Kenpachi's moment.
Off to see Iceturd's Final Hyorinmaru. Crapiest than Nanatsu, really.
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"Two handed grip makes for stronger slashes" was Kenpachi's peak, apparently.
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If only he had his sanity to use his bankai two handed
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I mean, using two hands for more power isn't bad logic, because you'll get a steadier swing and be able to direct most of the force in the attack. The problem is that it's more intended (IE not in Bleach land) when you're getting serious and making the duel more intense.
Not akin to flipping a light switch and using it to suddenly beat an Espada. For Kenpachi's large size and strength, it shouldn't make that big of a difference. Dude was already cutting buildings in half in the SS arc with one arm!
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@Purple:
If only he had his sanity to use his bankai two handed
That would make a good thread title lol.
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I mean, using two hands for more power isn't bad logic, because you'll get a steadier swing and be able to direct most of the force in the attack. The problem is that it's more intended (IE not in Bleach land) when you're getting serious and making the duel more intense.
Not akin to flipping a light switch and using it to suddenly beat an Espada. For Kenpachi's large size and strength, it shouldn't make that big of a difference. Dude was already cutting buildings in half in the SS arc with one arm!
I actually understood that when it happened. He was using technique to make a more focused and precise attack. But having that be what defeats the opponent? No. Total bullshit.
Kubology: The blind and unthinking acceptance of whatever Kubo writes.
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I actually understood that when it happened. He was using technique to make a more focused and precise attack. But having that be what defeats the opponent? No. Total bullshit.
Exactly. It's not in the same tier as say….removing the eyepatch to suddenly access the rest of his reiatsu and power....it's just using another hand!
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Exactly. It's not in the same tier as say….removing the eyepatch to suddenly access the rest of his reiatsu and power....it's just using another hand!
I feel that was the perfect time for kenpachi to banki
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@Purple:
If only he had his sanity to use his bankai two handed
Bet he didn't even think of doing that prior his bankai. Maybe Kubo thought it's uncool for someone like Zaraki to swing that oversized meat cleaver with two hands.
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"Two handed grip makes for stronger slashes" was Kenpachi's peak, apparently.
Haha, wow, that feels like a million years ago, doesn't it?
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Bet he didn't even think of doing that prior his bankai. Maybe Kubo thought it's uncool for someone like Zaraki to swing that oversized meat cleaver with two hands.
Awesome Ellen-sensei icon!
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