Best game since 64, probably my favourite in the series even.

I don't get the moon count hate. I can't think of any collectathon that had at least some unproportionally easy or simply bad collectibles (the second canary race in Tooie comes to mind…), and then still were some of the best games I've ever played. The only moon so far that I found really annoying was the jumprope stuff, though admittedly I haven't played the dreaded volleyball minigame yet. The stomp attack moons also always have some indication where they are or are part of a larger puzzle, so I don't really get the hate.

About late- and post-game:

! Everything from dragon to ending credits as well as the postgame are amazing. Currently doing the Dark Side secret level, I hope there's much more stuff of that difficulty (and beyond) hidden in the game.

Just read the new chapter.

! This is probably one of the darkest series WSJ had in a very long time. Jesus fucking Christ

! Most likely yes, but everyone on Earth was already dead anyway, including Beerus and Shin.

Looking at the "skeptics", left vs right wing, … discussions here, I feel really weirded out how there seems to be such a strong thinking of a person belonging exclusively in one of those two groups and not leaning in one direction for some issues and in the other for the remaining ones. Then again, I'm from a country (Germany) with a well-established multi-party system with lots of options that focus on specific demographics or political issues, so I guess that's why?

I mean, consider our refugee policy compared to the US and that the alt-right and especially Trump attacked us quite massively for it last year.
And then, in contrast to such a left-leaning policy, you have the fact gay marriage still is not legal in Germany and used to be strongly opposed by Merkel's party if not for very recent pressure by other parties and potential coalition partners that will follow the elections this year.

@Demon:

The Fact that Lindsay, and really any Liberal person, is sitting at this table with them is being treated like a massive betrayal…. Except it's not if you've ever payed attention to the things Lindsay actually publicly says.

Last year after the Trumpocalypse 2016, she did a video that was basically "

" and the overall tone of the video is basically: "Actually talk to them rather than just calling them racists and throwing mashed potatoes at them".

Exactly. I don't get why people get so worked up about those kind of things anyway in most cases. It's become quite hard with social media and all, but you still have to view the artist and person separately up to a certain degree in my opinion.

Nobody liked that new Bardock special either, and GT isn't that long. Especially since mostly skipping the Black Star DB Saga, as the English dub did, doesn't seem that unlikely. I could see them doing three or four specials instead of a full series, with each covering one saga. Kind of like their Kai specials, maybe?

Regarding Super, I'm honestly not sure what to think as they already are somewhat doing it (clips on Twitter).

That was unexpected. Liked it much more than last episode.

! So I guess that means they'll definitely do the Buu saga? Makes me wonder what'll happen after that and whether they'll cover any of GT at some point.

One of the worse episodes recently. I still don't dig their Satan, but I guess it's tough to abridge a joke character anyway.

So I guess next episode will be the transition to Gohan and 60 is a three-parter like with Freeza and Vegeta? Unless they really plan to drag this out.

I can't see that working out well, because 1) Death Note doesn't look good so far and 2) even if Death Note ends up being good: for Neverland they'd either have to hire a lot of really good child actors, or change quite a lot in addition to the age of the main cast to keep things consistent (i.e. I can't see late-teens Norman and Ray being physically weaker than Isabella).

I'm not sure if you're just being sarcastic, though.

I think it's acceptable to say Roshi could be Radditz level at this point, i.e. being as strong as he was in Ressurection F. It has been several decades after all

Now, him being stronger than Tenshinhan is just stupid.

@Robby:

Freeza, who blew up and conquered and enslaved countless worlds, for decades, wasn't a universal threat? Maybe he wasn't going to destroy literally everything, but he was making things pretty miserable for all sentient beings.

It depends on what you consider a "universal threat", really. Frieza was basically running a business and selling planets, so to me it seems extremely unlikely he'd ever have become that kind of threat that will extinct all life in the universe. Also consider that every universe literally has someone doing the job of destroying planets - someone else doing so on a relatively minor scale might be completely acceptable.

And Cell was going to go around and start destroying the universe once he proved himself agains Earth. But given that he was only around for like a week I'll let his threat pass.

He might also have been too much for the Kaioshin already. Didn't he consider Dabura, who was as strong as Cell if I remember correctly, extremely strong as well?

And yes, the Saiayans were able to handle Buu this time around, barely and after a lot of shenanigans and luck, and intervention from the gods and copious dragonball spamming, but apparently last time he went around and wrecked all the Kais and was viewed as basically unstoppable, and was barely sealed away. The impression given at the time was that all the Kais were weaker than the Super Saiyans and that they were crazy powerful (especially fused).

Fair point, but I'd say your point about Cell is fully valid here as well. I also think we never got that many details about how the Kaios dealt with Buu the first time around, so it might have involved other universes to an extent.

Including Roshi?

Fully agreed, Roshi is an oddball. Though we might learn a bit more about that next episode.