Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion

Phoenix Zoan

cnet trans is up. The one at onemanga was a mistranslation. He actually asks Croc about the blood baths at ID not how was my blood bath somewhat implying he was controlling Jozu to attack Croc.

What actually happened was Jozu ran in and delivered a punch at Croc. Jozu went for a second punch then Dofla stopped the second punch with his powers. Then he asks Croc about ID and to join forces. Dofla attacking Croc with Jozu with the first punch, stopping the second punch, then asking about how my blood bath, then asking Croc to join him in fighting Jozu when he has full contol of him makes no fucking sense at all.

Lordzeb

Vegapunk is a monster T_T poor Kuma, i'll miss you

boman

@KIRIN:

Blackbeard will appear and do something crazy.
And Mihawk will forget about Luffy

I don't think Blackbeard will come to this war. All he need is something @Impel Down

Refii

So Donflamingo has the hots for Crocodile, Luffy will defeat Itachi and Ivankov is going to turn Kuma into a female <3

Next Chapter will rock.

RomanceDawn

@Phoenix:

cnet trans is up. The one at onemanga was a mistranslation. He actually asks Croc about the blood baths at ID not how was my blood bath somewhat implying he was controlling Jozu to attack Croc.

What actually happened was Jozu ran in and delivered a punch at Croc. Jozu went for a second punch then Dofla stopped the second punch with his powers. Then he asks Croc about ID and to join forces. Dofla attacking Croc with Jozu with the first punch, stopping the second punch, then asking about how my blood bath, then asking Croc to join him in fighting Jozu when he has full contol of him makes no fucking sense at all.

Yeah your right. I trust the translation over at Manga Share allot more. What Flamingo say's to croc is this "Nice to see you made it Croc-man!!! How were the Impel Down bload baths?" That makes a whole lot more sense.

Joz hit croc, you can see the surprise on flamingo's face, then before he can hit croc again he does his puppet fingers and stops him to Joz's surprise.

Now another question about this scene. After he blasts Croc away Croc turns to sand and then reforms back to the ground correct? Which gives the impression that Joz does have some type of "aura" with nothing leading to believe either Croc of Joz was wet.

HaxeyeMihawk

@NANLIT:

If it is the right translation, I do not think it means that she will lose her title. She had a smile on her face and it reminds me of when she told Momonga to "do as you wish". She believed then that she would be able to keep her title and not go to the war and she believed before Luffy arrived that she would be allowed to fight marines and not lose her title and Smoker is a marine (her basis on this was that she agreed to fight against Whitebeard, not ally herself with the marines). Furthermore, with Luffy "defeating" her, I think that eliminates any suspicion on the marines' part about a link between Luffy and Hancock. So no, I do not think that it's obvious that Hancock will lose her title.

Do not take the idiocy of fodder over Smoker, he literally just said, "Do you know what the marines are going to do you for opposing them?" She said, "do as you will" as in she doesn't care but that doesn't mean nothing will happen, I don't even know how you could even interpret that line to mean anything other than her likely losing her title. And the fodder line was before Hancock broke Smoker's jutte and called Smoker an impudent fool. I don't think they ignored that.

Flashig

interesting the cross of the tomb in zorros coverstory is graved in a big tree which you can recognize on the spreading roots. Its maybe a hint for something..

Phoenix Zoan

@RomanceDawn:

Yeah your right. I trust the translation over at Manga Share allot more. What Flamingo say's to croc is this "Nice to see you made it Croc-man!!! How were the Impel Down bload baths?" That makes a whole lot more sense.

Joz hit croc, you can see the surprise on flamingo's face, then before he can hit croc again he does his puppet fingers and stops him to Joz's surprise.

Now another question about this scene. After he blasts Croc away Croc turns to sand and then reforms back to the ground correct? Which gives the impression that Joz does have some type of "aura" with nothing leading to believe either Croc of Joz was wet.

Well when Luffy stopped Croc from attacking WB Oda made sure to a panel that Luffy was still wet. Last chapter we got confirmation that haki can allow you to hit logia. Then this chapter we see Croc (a logia) get hit and blood comes from his mouth. Oda didn't show any panels of Jozu being wet. Croc is obviously not wet himself since he shouldn't be able to turn to sand if he got wet somehow. So logically we should assume Jozu used haki to attack Croc.

Hinscher

curious on if doflamingo did stop jozu. it appears that he did, his hand is still in a position, though that could be just he is ready to attack.

jozu did stop and is shaky, though that could be him stopping because all of sudden a shichi jumped on top of him (they aren't exactly fodder). So he stopped and stopping a punch is hard, plus due to shock/surprise and maybe scared (though doubt scared)

I'm going to assume and do believe that Doflamingo did stop him with his powers, but if it turns out otherwise I wouldn't bitch or be surprised. Either way is fine by me. THis one interaction of stopping or not doesn't matter. THe end result Oda already know on who will win, and i doubt it effects luffy in this war either.

Luffy will save Ace and escape somehow. And well it seems whitebeard has to die or els this war did nothing. So wouldn't be surprised if Jozu and Marco both die as well. Doflamingo and Croc take out Jozu and Mihawk takes out Marco. Of course Admirals coudl help or whatever in each fight, cuase really what are they doing. Or would it take all 3 admirals to take down Whitebeard??

lelandlancaster

@Refii:

So Donflamingo has the hots for Crocodile, Luffy will defeat Itachi and Ivankov is going to turn Kuma into a female <3

Next Chapter will rock.

Deep down everyone has the hots for Crocodile. He's just such a catch. XD

cheaptrick

@HaxeyeMihawk:

Do not take the idiocy of fodder over Smoker, he literally just said, "Do you know what the marines are going to do you for opposing them?" She said, "do as you will" as in she doesn't care but that doesn't mean nothing will happen, I don't even know how you could even interpret that line to mean anything other than her likely losing her title. And the fodder line was before Hancock broke Smoker's jutte and called Smoker an impudent fool. I don't think they ignored that.

to be frank there is one more mistranslation: smoker says. "you do know what will happen to you later, for interfering with the marine?" and hancock doesn't reply "do as you will" ,but "no matter what i do, i will be forgiven"

HaxeyeMihawk

@cheaptrick:

to be frank there is one more mistranslation: smoker says. "you do know what will happen to you later, for interfering with the marine?" and hancock doesn't reply "do as you will" ,but "no matter what i do, i will be forgiven"

Yea I have to read Bink, but the signs still point to Hancock getting a reality check and losing her title.

NANLIT

HaxeyeMihawk, I was saying that her attacking Smoker is no different than her attacking those nameless marines. Remwmber her loophole that she agreed to fight against Whtebeard but not ally with the marines? When she first said that, it seemed that she was right and her title was not in danger; why should it be any different now that she's fighting against a marine we know the name of? The only issue from last chapter was Luffy but that seems to have been nullified with Luffy "defeating" her.

Kalt45

Iva's Face Spectrum is pretty funny. If she wants more eyes to wink with, why does she still only wink one eye (per face)?!

k11n

@Kalt45:

Iva's Face Spectrum is pretty funny. If she wants more eyes to wink with, why does she still only wink one eye (per face)?!

Because he/she hast to target the enemy with the other eye? Maybe.. dunno.. ^^

Crossword

@NANLIT:

HaxeyeMihawk, I was saying that her attacking Smoker is no different than her attacking those nameless marines. Remwmber her loophole that she agreed to fight against Whtebeard but not ally with the marines? When she first said that, it seemed that she was right and her title was not in danger; why should it be any different now that she's fighting against a marine we know the name of? The only issue from last chapter was Luffy but that seems to have been nullified with Luffy "defeating" her.

That's not going to excuse her. That's more of her self-justification. What's different you ask? She outed herself to a guy who not only hates the Shichibukai, but is not idiotic enough to swallow the nonsense that everyone else does. Frankly, I believe that it's time that reality popped up to say hello.

Fortysix2

Ivankov talks as if he/she knows Kuma's powers really well and can handle them! Interesting!!

And Mihawk's statements at the end of the chapter remind me of the Loguetown scene where Luffy was in a similar situation…..and destiny saved him :)
Who will be the one whos gonna save luffy now :O

LightningAce

This is what a war should be like, unlike a certain other popular manga which totally fked it all up.

Joz vs Croc-Flamingo. Fantastic match-up. Diamond dude is gonna mess em up…Or perhaps it'll get interupted again.....

I still dun get why sum1 who despises the WG, would volunteer for the Pacifista program.....i wonder what the plan behind this is...

Steven D. Teach

"Alligator man". Way to go, Franky House.

HaxeyeMihawk

@NANLIT:

HaxeyeMihawk, I was saying that her attacking Smoker is no different than her attacking those nameless marines. Remwmber her loophole that she agreed to fight against Whtebeard but not ally with the marines? When she first said that, it seemed that she was right and her title was not in danger; why should it be any different now that she's fighting against a marine we know the name of? The only issue from last chapter was Luffy but that seems to have been nullified with Luffy "defeating" her.

But you're ignoring the fact that in that instance she was acting under a false pretense making it seem like she was attacking the pirates and if marines were in the crossfire then too bad because she only promised to help fight WB, not pull punches for marines. However in this instance she clearly wasn't trying to harm Luffy but instead attacked Smoker, but also she did so in a clear instance in which Smoker had Luffy defeated (so even if she tried her act Smoker wouldn't buy it) so for her to only attack Smoker is clearly defying the rules of her title, these are two totally different situations.

I think you misunderstand the loophole, it doesn't allow her to openly defy the WG and marines as long as she kills fodder pirates, no, her intention still has to be seen as pirate fighting but if she kills a few marines in the crossfire so be it, but she can't go out of her way to assist the enemy as she just did.

andy

It don't really matter , the question is are they even going to be warlords after this war . If they get ride of boa that mean they are going to be missing 3 of them. If 1 being missing was such a big deal 3 going to be huge. It up to oda he could go either way if he wants.

GoustiFruit

Mihawk talked about fate so… it's got to be BB who will allow Luffy to pass Mihawk ! (with the new recruit from ID who's I can't remember the name)

IrishLuigi

Or Luffy will trip and roll past him.

Damn, that's a good theory.

HaxeyeMihawk

Ha why do Mihawk's eyes look like the rinnegan?

GoustiFruit

Did Hancock really break Smoker's jitte with her leg ??? She's a DF user holly sh*t !? And Oda clearly shows the contact with the tip of the jitte !!! And he clearly shows Smoker holding it with his glove afterward !!! :-o

GaaraofTheDesert

It would be a good twist if Mihawk became the best swordsman because of an illusion Devil Fruit, he actually wouldnt be the ultimate swordsman but he would be able to beat strong opponets because of his dirty ability:ninja:

HaxeyeMihawk

@GoustiFruit:

Did Hancock really break Smoker's jitte with her leg ??? She's a DF user holly sh*t !? And Oda clearly shows the contact with the tip of the jitte !!! And he clearly shows Smoker holding it with his glove afterward !!! :-o

It clearly broke in the middle where it was kicked.

0_0_Spider

I really dont think Mihawk is tryin 2 kill Luffy or anything…i think hes jus tryin 2 test his strength see if hes really worth all the hype with his own strength...but i kinda do want 2 see Mihawk fight seriously with a top gun..cuz then we ll know jus how strong Shanks is..

Kuma and his "we will never meet again" line was jus epic...now we see Kuma changed from a liar to a potential hero..epic foreshadow from Mr Oda

LOL the trans on OM have DD askin croc to hook up with him?! i guess romance can even happen on a battlefield, mayb after DD and croc beat Joz DD will ask Croc to make sweet forbidden love with him on the Diamand bed aka Joz's back.

Recovery

@Kalt45:

Iva's Face Spectrum is pretty funny. If she wants more eyes to wink with, why does she still only wink one eye (per face)?!

because if she winked with both eyes it would be called blinking..

GoustiFruit

@'[[\0_0/:

/]_Spider;1314625']I really dont think Mihawk is tryin 2 kill Luffy or anything…

He said exactly the contrary. He will go full power and kill him. Only fate can save him.

Trinners

Great chapter but how did Hancock get those keys? Am I missing something?

AtARU

"This must be the first time in her whole life… that someone actually forgotten her face"

I laugh so hard

also, "aligator man" wtf!

Sir Crocodile

@Recovery:

because if she winked with both eyes it would be called blinking..

Hell blink. Continent buster.

Joz looks like a pain to draw. Wonder if Oda's gonna spend a lot of time on that fight.

0_0_Spider

@GoustiFruit:

He said exactly the contrary. He will go full power and kill him. Only fate can save him.

O then i guess i missed the part where Hawkeye said he was goin to kill him….

Kalt45

@Recovery:

because if she winked with both eyes it would be called blinking..

Very true. Then I think she is running out of wink attacks. Her blink attacks could be like Gear 2, I whole new level of creepy badassness. "Galaxy Blink" bam!

GaaraofTheDesert

Maybe the "shadow" guy is Mihawk's master

cheaptrick

one thing is for certain, the one who's enjoying this war the most is doflamingo, and he also seems to like a lot to chat with all the mid-top tiers he meets :-)

RomanceDawn

@GaaraofTheDesert:

It would be a good twist if Mihawk became the best swordsman because of an illusion Devil Fruit, he actually wouldnt be the ultimate swordsman but he would be able to beat strong opponets because of his dirty ability:ninja:

No, Zoro and Asura will get that Rep. hahaha.

I wonder how Zoro convinced Perona to give him his swords. Maybe she just figured he was no match for her anyway. I know Brooke is from the West Blue but I wonder if he has some sort of connection with Zoro's island. I just can't imagine Oda not pulling a flash back of Brooke on top of one of those curly mountains.

Recovery

i dont know if its just the shade from his hat but hawkeyes seems to have the haki eye thing that luffy had in ID when he got the wolves to back down from attacking Bon-chan

edit…well poop i looked at the picture again at it was just his hat shadow..

Jadosra

I like the new Kuma.

I was mad at the Dragon - Kuma theory because then Luffy VS Kuma would be null.
But this way, Luffy VS Kuma is possible :D

camel.d

i think rayleigh will come and fight with mihawk !

Marguerite

Excellent chapter. Loved how Hancock stole the keys and had a fangirl moment mid battle.

Doflamingo and Crocodile teaming up? The world may not be ready for that bromance.

Jadosra

@GaaraofTheDesert:

It would be a good twist if Mihawk became the best swordsman because of an illusion Devil Fruit, he actually wouldnt be the ultimate swordsman but he would be able to beat strong opponets because of his dirty ability:ninja:

It would be awesome if he had the "Eye Eye Fruit"
It could do illusions and see what the opponent was about to do, like a 6x Mantra.

Basically, a Sharingan without the shitty gimmick attacks (and without the hax and stupid "Imitate move when seeing it" ability)

I would love it

Usopp D. Teach

@Sir:

Hell blink. Continent buster.

Joz looks like a pain to draw. Wonder if Oda's gonna spend a lot of time on that fight.

not that much of a pain. His diamond parts are just a couple of lines crossing each other. It's not exactly high detail work.

Jadosra

Akainu is the hardest for Oda to draw, specially with the style of the manga.
I feel sorry for Oda each time I see Akainu drawn

Gizmo

This chapter made me realize that people with devil fruits can be Pacifistas. I mean, Pacifistas who are not Kuma that we thought are just mindless drones could also have devil fruit powers. This could be an interesting twist if different Pacifistas are met in the future where Kuma look alikes use powers other than Lasers.

Sakonosolo

Awesome… who am I kidding, there's really no reason to point it out week after week. Doflamingo has become my favorite character in like 5 chapters, his speeches are so awesome . So, everyone who called Kuma's "death" after the Sabaody fiasco were correct it seems. And it looks like Crocodile knew Doflamingo at some point.

And I'm calling it now, Mihawk is somehow related to Auger.

Also, why is the chapter called "The Prisoners of Impel Down"? there was nothing about ID anywhere in the chapter except when Dofla asked Croc how he liked fighting in ID.

wintergt

@cheaptrick:

one thing is for certain, the one who's enjoying this war the most is doflamingo, and he also seems to like a lot to chat with all the mid-top tiers he meets :-)

Yeah he was probably bored for a long time, now it's a cool social event and he's having some fun chit chatting with all his acquaintances.

Doflamingo just owns. He really just is walking all over the place like it's a party, puppeteering and killing people left and right.
@Kairouseki:

Also, why is the chapter called "The Prisoners of Impel Down"? there was nothing about ID anywhere in the chapter except when Dofla asked Croc how he liked fighting in ID.

Because we got the focus on all of the escaped prisoners and what they are doing. Ok most of the chapters are like that since Luffy made his appearance, but atleast now we got to see what Croc is up to, and that the MIA daz bonez is owning it up.

smurfx

@Sir:

Hell blink. Continent buster.

Joz looks like a pain to draw.

just imagine how hard he will be to animate. i predict joz looking really, really crappy in the anime version.

DesertSpada

@HaxeyeMihawk:

Ha why do Mihawk's eyes look like the rinnegan?

Mihawk's eyes have always been like that. This is why he's called "Hawkeye" Mihawk.