Some Facts about the "11 Supernovas"

Ikki-Kun

Ok guys,

I just read the Franky House scanlation of the Chapter and compared it to the raw. I just recognized that Franky House took the trans of the script. The script contained some mistakes, so I wanted you to know some things I found out.

*Capone Gang Bege
I think everyone knows about the relation to Al Capone, but his crewmates call him respectful Father. A hint for "The Godfather"? xD

*Jewelry Bonney
The only thing worth mentioning is, that her nickname is "Glutton". It obviously fits to her. Her rude manner and her name could be a hint to Anne Bonny.

*Basil Hawkins
Here is the only thing worth mentioning, that his name could be taken from the pirate John Hawkins and also from Jim Hawkins, the protagonist of Treasure Island.

*Eustass Captain Kid
His name couldbe taken from William "Captain" Kidd.

*Scratchmen Apoo
Hey is a music freak. You can see it on his head phones, his DJ gesture and the Kanji sign for "noise" on his clothes.

*X Drake
Well, he seems to be the most important one for me, because of a strange fact concerning his name. People already suggestet the X could be for another clan like the D, but Oda made something very strange. In the raw is a ディエス (Dies/Diez) above the X. These Katakana are for articulation of the word, so the X has to bes spoken Dias. What I found out is, that Diaz is hispanic for ten. The romans used an X as a symbol for a ten. It could mean, that Drake is suppused to be calles Drake, the 10th. This is just a theory from me…^^
Also he was a Navy Officer. It is the same marine rank as Ensign.

*Urouge
Nothing specail to say, exept of his origin.

*Killer
Nothing speacial too.

*Trafalgar Law
His nickname is not the "Dark Doctor". It's "Surgeon of Death". I think this name already sounds more cruel and just fits better to creepy a guy like him.

*Cover
The cover story script was also wrong in the script.
It is "Medical fee enterainment: Jabura's and Bruno's animal show"

Angel emfrbl

Everyone already knew most of these…

EDit:

There was an "Eustance (spelling name?) the Monk" who was a pirate. We have a "Mystery Monk" and an "Eustance Kid". (yeah I forget all spellings today!) in OP now.

sabret00the

Thanks for the effort Ikki. The Diaz Drake thing was totally new to me. Though for most of the others Binktopia got it right. I must again say thanks for telling us what Apoo's shirt said. It bugged me that none of the groups translated that.

Welkin

@Angel:

Everyone already knew most of these…

Why the hell does there always have to be someone to criticize anything posted that they think everyone always knows?

That said, didn't realize the furigana pronounced the X as diez, thanks for the post.

Dark_Kaomi

Interesting. More details for the fan that pays attention.

Sanji The Cook

I just wonder who's going to fight who!?

Nuzzie

Apoo is from a Long Hand Tribe. This wasn't mentioned in the Franky House scan, but was in the Bink one.

seacake

I believe that jewelry bonney is based on billy the kid because:

Billy the kid had the alias William Henry Bonney - He was easygoing, skinny and kind of girlish looking
He had blue eyes, smooth cheeks and bla bla bla (I think her eyes are blue, because in the spoiler thread someone called her "a woman with pretty eyes")
All the cowboy theme

well, that's just my opinion

Ikki-Kun

@Nuzzie:

Apoo is from a Long Hand Tribe. This wasn't mentioned in the Franky House scan, but was in the Bink one.

Oh, you're right! I just overread it. Thanks!^^

Angel emfrbl

@Welkin:

Why the hell does there always have to be someone to criticize anything posted that they think everyone always knows?

That said, didn't realize the furigana pronounced the X as diez, thanks for the post.

And I note something: there is always a critic who critises them too for critising the orginal poster. Thats makes you know better then me in that sense.

This is better then the usual "Oh BTW…" topic, at least this guy came up with something new. And if you read my post I tried to add more information. Which is more then you did pal. Believe me, if I didn't think much of this topic, you'd really know by now.

(note: I had to edit that post also when I forgot to add my tadbit too and hit "submit" too soon, but I do that a lot anyway).

Kma

Probably completely unrelated but I think Apoo might have some reference or inspired from one of the villians in Rurouni Kenshin.

As we know Oda worked under the author of Rurouni Kenshin and in one arc there was one guy who belonged to a clan or something that emphasized on prolonging their arms. He was cool

Read it so long ago, hard to remember his name and what not.

Lobolover

I think the thing with Drake-he would make it evident,if he gave him a name such as "Randomname X. Drake" ,but this seems oddly out of form.

HEATXZ

@Ikki-Kun:

*Killer
Nothing special too.

Killer's helmet is base off of Daft Punk

Angel emfrbl

I'll believe that when I read it. Lol.

sabret00the

@Angel:

And I note something: there is always a critic who critises them too for critising the orginal poster. Thats makes you know better then me in that sense.

This is better then the usual "Oh BTW…" topic, at least this guy came up with something new. And if you read my post I tried to add more information. Which is more then you did pal. Believe me, if I didn't think much of this topic, you'd really know by now.

(note: I had to edit that post also when I forgot to add my tadbit too and hit "submit" too soon, but I do that a lot anyway).

To be fair, at the point of me reading the topic originally, your post didn't contain the edit and so it looked like you were just being an ungrateful smart-arse.

Hyrrokkin

Eh, in my opinion the most interesting one is Urouge. Coming from a sky island? That's gonna be interesting.

King Kobra

Apoo's teeth resemble piano keys

Gorlom

No, that's just a case of bad oral hygiene since the black stuff is between every tooth …

piano keys skip a black key every 3-4 white keys

sabret00the

I thought it was braces.

candrew

It may be that they were just trying to invoke the idea of piano keys with his braces, or massive tooth decay or whatever he's got going on with his mouth. The guy's theme seems to be music.

DWill

@Ikki-Kun:

Ok guys,

*Jewelry Bonney
The only thing worth mentioning is, that her nickname is "Glutton". It obviously fits to her. Her rude manner and her name could be a hint to Anne Bonny.

*X Drake
Well, he seems to be the most important one for me, because of a strange fact concerning his name. People already suggestet the X could be for another clan like the D, but Oda made something very strange. In the raw is a ディエス (Dies/Diez) above the X. These Katakana are for articulation of the word, so the X has to bes spoken Dias. What I found out is, that Diaz is hispanic for ten. The romans used an X as a symbol for a ten. It could mean, that Drake is suppused to be calles Drake, the 10th. This is just a theory from me…^^
Also he was a Navy Officer. It is the same marine rank as Ensign.
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Jewelry Bonney definitely was based on one of only two best known female pirates(the other one being Mary Read). One thing to note, both of them disguised as men while aboard thier pirate ship.

As for X Drake, he probably was based on Sir Francis Drake, a real life vice admiral for the English navy, but was regarded as a pirate by…guess who? Yep the Spaniards.

Admiral Wolfpox

My brother mentioned that "Apoo" is probably based on that shitty filler character who always said "puu" and had turntables n shit.

candrew

You mean that kid from Movie 6?

TheGentlemanSkeleton

@candrew:

You mean that kid from Movie 6?

Dang I hated him, he was so annoying.

Shakidna_

Is this possibly the same Drake that was in G8 and Movie 4?

Romulos

haha, maybe hawkins has the same attitude as blackbeard? both talking about fate/destiny…

cp9luchi

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Killer's mask and weapons sort of resemble Voldo's from the Soul Calibur series

archanfel

Hawkins has a strong obssession with "Fate/Destiny" just Blackbeard Pirates, this was not reflected in FH scanlation.

His exact lines in that one panel goes roughly like:"What his (the waiter who spilled Speghetti) action resulted in your cloths' regrettable fate, today is not a good day to kill, let him go.

It sounds bit retarded but that's what he tried to say, the guy either has sth to do w/ BB crew or shares the same mentality/belief of the whole "Fate" thing.

Admiral Wolfpox

Can't more than one group in the world be fatalistic?

sabret00the

Someone mentioned that Bonney could be based on Billy the Kidd as opposed to Anne Bonney. I actually think it could be an amalgamation of the two.

FireFistAce 0

Apoo is probably named after Cui Apu, a famous Chinese Pirate who at one point commanded a fleet of 500 junks (Chinese ships).

BinSquarr

I'm just glad once more that Oda has dragged into some new power, and a lot of it, not doing a stupid Naruto 'Orochimaru? Not you again…..'

Basically Oda's dragged another surprise out of the bag, and reminded us again that One Piece is the fucking best.

Battle Preditictions....

Luffy vs. Hawkins - not only cos he has the highest bounty, but that he's real nasty to the civilians, not Luffy's kinda guy at all.

Zoro vs. Killer -neither of them captains, but both notorious pirates.

Bonney vs. Robin - Robin looked like a cowboy once....

Hope it's not Law vs. Chopper just because they're doctors, cos Chopper's just beaten up Hogback, but still could be good.

Urouge (the big sky island guy) vs. Usopp - lowest bounty, maybe a knowledge of dials, yeah...

Well that's all I got at the moment, what about Sanji? Franky? Brooke? maybe a Nami/Hatchan combo? I dunno.

Gorlom

BinSquarr: Kinda wrong thread for this. if we could stick to facts in this thread (or speculation on who they are based on at least) it would be much appreciated.

Btw: you are confusing Hawkins with Captain Kid.

Pyro

@Ikki-Kun:

Ok guys,

*X Drake
Well, he seems to be the most important one for me, because of a strange fact concerning his name. People already suggestet the X could be for another clan like the D, but Oda made something very strange. In the raw is a ディエス (Dies/Diez) above the X. These Katakana are for articulation of the word, so the X has to bes spoken Dias. What I found out is, that Diaz is hispanic for ten. The romans used an X as a symbol for a ten. It could mean, that Drake is suppused to be calles Drake, the 10th. This is just a theory from me…^^
Also he was a Navy Officer. It is the same marine rank as Ensign.

Never thought about something complicated like this…
I thought he was named "X Drake" by the Marines because of his big X-tatoo on the chest and his X-scar on the chin, but maybe this is too obvious

Ivotas

Thanks a lot for the info Ikki-kun, didn´t know any of these. Especially the X Drake part is VERY informative.

Minor question, is the Diaz part a typo in the drake paragraph? Because you've used spellings with both a and e and a Spanish ten is written nnly with an e. Just asking because it looks a bit confusing.

tarrin4ever

Is Drake a reference to Francis Drake, the famous English privateer/admiral/slave trader?

*according to wikipedia, the Spanish equated him to a pirate.

Mad Wanze

@tarrin4ever:

Is Drake a reference to Francis Drake, the famous English privateer/admiral/slave trader?

*according to wikipedia, the Spanish equated him to a pirate.

No. That's silly.

tarrin4ever

Ahh snap, I didn't even read page 2 for some reason. xp

Looks like me and DWill read the same wiki page.

Tizoc

@Ikki-Kun:

*Capone Gang Bege
I think everyone knows about the relation to Al Capone, but his crewmates call him respectful Father. A hint for "The Godfather"? xD

See now here's something I don't get, is his name Capone or Bege (or however it should be spelled)

*Jewelry Bonney
The only thing worth mentioning is, that her nickname is "Glutton". It obviously fits to her. Her rude manner and her name could be a hint to Anne Bonny.

Assuming Oda made a mistake when converting the name to English/Engrish, if her name is Bonne/Bonny, is Jewelry her nickname? If it is then what would the proper term be?

*Scratchman Apoo
Hey is a music freak. You can see it on his head phones, his DJ gesture and the Kanji sign for "noise" on his clothes.

If scratchman is reference to the 'scratching' DJs do and Apoo has a similar meaning to 'noise', then what you wrote pretty much makes sense.

*X Drake
Well, he seems to be the most important one for me, because of a strange fact concerning his name. People already suggestet the X could be for another clan like the D, but Oda made something very strange. In the raw is a ディエス (Dies/Diez) above the X. These Katakana are for articulation of the word, so the X has to bes spoken Dias. What I found out is, that Diaz is hispanic for ten. The romans used an X as a symbol for a ten. It could mean, that Drake is suppused to be calles Drake, the 10th. This is just a theory from me…^^
Also he was a Navy Officer. It is the same marine rank as Ensign.

So basically he would be Drake the 10th right?

Gorlom

@Freeman-12:

See now here's something I don't get, is his name Capone or Bege (or however it should be spelled)

His name is Capone "Gang" Bege, so it's both of them.

Assuming Oda made a mistake when converting the name to English/Engrish, if her name is Bonne/Bonny, is Jewelry her nickname? If it is then what would the proper term be?

Her nickname is Glutton. Her full name is Jewlery Bonney. I don't really get what you are asking here.

Tokoro Ataru

Interesting catch on the almalgamation of Anne Bonney and Billy the Kid for Jewelry Bonney. I didn't really remember Billy's name and it would make sense for her "cowboy" motif. Oh, and glad I'm not the only one who thought of "Jim Hawkins".

Only other thing I could add was something I put in the main thread: I think some of Trafalgar Law's design is similar to Jay Kay from Jamiroquai…the face and that weird hat reminded me of him on second glance.

seacake

Neeeh, it's anne bonne.

That's the main reason i think that she's based on billy but if i'm correct, billy died in his 19's/20's

Angel emfrbl

Oda's refs are mostly pirates… I'm think he based her on the pirate. Now all we need is the Mary Reeds reference.

FireFistAce 0

Something interesting I found about William "Captain" Kidd:

Originally, he was commissioned to capture Teach (Blackbeard), but changed his mind and turned to Piracy himself. But he denied being a pirate. When he was tried and sentenced to hanging, they had to hang him twice, because the noose broke the first time. They left his body, rotting and covered in tar, in the town centre, as a reminder to those who would commit piracy.

ctarlong910

maybe drake is scared taking on black beard (in the manga)

Gorlom

But… BB didn't even have a bounty, the WG hardly knew about him. How could he have been assigned to take on BB if no one knew they wanted him captured?

ctarlong910

Someone already mentioned eustace the monk right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_the_Monk

Greg

Dunno if anyone brought this up, but I like Apoo's way of referring to himself.

Sounds like he's from the countryside. Wonder if it's a trait of his kind.

Hattori

It may have been said in the thread already, but I'm too lazy to read it all: Drake, at least to me, looks to be based on Zorro. Not only does he have a mask and a similar hat, but could the X in his name maybe refer to how Zorro always marks a Z with his sword? So maybe Drake marks X's?

Admiral Wolfpox

I'm the most interested in these two: