I don't want to sound ungrateful, but does anyone have (or know where I can find) this chapter in Japanese? I would certainly rather read it than just look at the pretty pictures.
Chapter 507 "Kizaru's Landing" Discussion
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Good chapter and all, and thank you to the providers of it. I'm sort of pissed at Himajin for getting everyone super hyped up by not wanting to spoil the ending though, and in truth he already posted it.
That is why we are not suppose to jump the conclusion, getting all hyped up, thinking the person will be a past character, expecting way too much, forgetting that ethier we misunderstood Himajin or he can joke on us thus leading us to disappointment.
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sorry but the only worthwhile thing about this chapter was Kizaru and the supernovas, for some reason luffy's reaction to usopp's statement just really annoyed me to the extent where i just want the future chapters to be focused on someone else for a change (of course it's the combination of past cliche luffy/strawhats antics that got to me too).
I mean Oda has so many interesting side-characters, i'm sure nobody would mind seeing them for a few chapters.
I don't think just randomly skipping to other characters would be a good idea at all. In fact, it'd be utterly pointless, especially when things are starting to build up.
I agree with Brennen.exe when he says that every chapter can't be expected to be some epic chapter every single week. The story needs to be built up, or there would barely be any story.
On top of this, the chapter isn't even translated yet, all a lot of people seem to be doing is judging from the pictures. -
@They:
With Luffy just saying who are you, to some life form with a black boot and less than half a leg.
I see and thanks for telling me since it takes a while to download when you only have dial-up.
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I don't think just randomly skipping to other characters would be a good idea at all. In fact, it'd be utterly pointless, especially when things are starting to build up.
I agree with Brennen.exe when he says that every chapter can't be expected to be some epic chapter every single week. The story needs to be built up, or there would barely be any story.
On top of this, the chapter isn't even translated yet, all a lot of people seem to be doing is judging from the pictures.I don't think it would be random to maybe switch over to Ace, Whitebeard, the Shichibukai, the Marines, I mean I think everyone pretty much wants to see the war already. Maybe even reactions from the other Yonkou on Whitebeard's decision to rescue Ace.
Not to mention how Blackbeard is dealing with his new position.
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I don't think it would be random to maybe switch over to Ace, Whitebeard, the Shichibukai, the Marines, I mean I think everyone pretty much wants to see the war already. Maybe even reactions from the other Yonkou on Whitebeard's decision to rescue Ace.
Not to mention how Blackbeard is dealing with his new position.
Ooooh! I'm getting you now! Maybe the situation with Ace and/or Whitebeard or Blackbeard would be a good few chapters.
Sorry about that! For some reason I thought you meant random cover story people that have little to do with the main story.
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Ok, just stating it for the record that I think the guy on the second last panel will be the axe guy from chapter 497.
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Man..i loved how the chapter ended , looks like we all got hyped up for pretty much nothing, oh well guess we gotta wait for next week to see who the person is..
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I liked the build up in this chapter honestly. Hawkins, Apoo, Bonney, Capone, and unknown figure build up. Lots of fights next week probably. Also let's spend the rest of this week playing match the foot to all known characters whose foot we've seen.
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Maybe the situation with Ace and/or Whitebeard or Blackbeard would be a good few chapters.
I dunno. Oda has never done that before has he? Aside from flashbacks has there ever been an entire chapter lacking the SHP? I could be wrong. The way I think about it though is like the Blackbeard vs Ace. Or Whitebeard vs Shanks. Wasn't it better in the long run to find out the aftermath only? Personally, I think it allows us to focus on the main characters without getting sucked into too much of the other characters. Blackbeard for instance isn't what this story is about; knowing about him and getting a little of him in some chapters is one thing, but leaving our protagonists behind for more than a chapter would be too strange.
Also, the SHP have to discuss things with Rayleigh someday. I mean, they saved him (more or less), have to get their ship coated by him, and he was the First Mate to the Pirate King ~~ why would they not have questions for him??? They had to come eventually, otherwise the story would have some wierd blank spot in it. So why not now?
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A curious data. A Borsalino is a type of hat (Giuseppe Borsalino, 1857).
typical for Mafia. Also the striped suit of kizaru is typical too.
Capone Gang Bege, also obviusly .
Sorry for my bad English
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I dunno. Oda has never done that before has he? Aside from flashbacks has there ever been an entire chapter lacking the SHP? I could be wrong. The way I think about it though is like the Blackbeard vs Ace. Or Whitebeard vs Shanks. Wasn't it better in the long run to find out the aftermath only? Personally, I think it allows us to focus on the main characters without getting sucked into too much of the other characters. Blackbeard for instance isn't what this story is about; knowing about him and getting a little of him in some chapters is one thing, but leaving our protagonists behind for more than a chapter would be too strange.
Yeah, you're right. Perhaps I should have replaced "would" with "might."
Also, the SHP have to discuss things with Rayleigh someday. I mean, they saved him (more or less), have to get their ship coated by him, and he was the First Mate to the Pirate King ~~ why would they not have questions for him??? They had to come eventually, otherwise the story would have some wierd blank spot in it. So why not now?
I completely agree with this. This is what I was trying to get at when I mentioned the building up of the story. : )
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Hmm… you can see Robin's underwear in the colourspread.
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@joekido:
That is why we are not suppose to jump the conclusion, getting all hyped up, thinking the person will be a past character, expecting way too much, forgetting that ethier we misunderstood Himajin or he can joke on us thus leading us to disappointment.
I love hearing this from the guy who made this:
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@ Eat n' Sleep You sure thats not the belt?
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I love hearing this from the guy who made this:
BOOM!!!!!!! chars….
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Mr Mafia seems to have some kinda ability cause he just stands front of aiming marines? And age age no mi is really good… Can't wait children SH vs Bonney pirates fight. Oh and is Yellow Monkey, kick fighter? He has looooong legs. And explosive kick, what's behind that? Dammed panties, they kind of.. hot, b-but look that smile, she is really funded place to stay...
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@Eat:
Hmm… you can see Robin's underwear in the colourspread.
It's just a belt or a strange addition to her pants.
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Ok, just stating it for the record that I think the guy on the second last panel will be the axe guy from chapter 497.
You and me both, man. (check out my post on the last page of the spoilers )
And at the risk of appearing a pervert, if you look closer at the colorspread, you can see the strings (right next to Sanji's head)on that thing some are calling a belt that Robin is wearing, with the shape of a bikini bottom/underwear, so I agree with Eat n' Sleep
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It's just a belt or a strange addition to her pants.
No when you zoom I think you can see it is more of a slip than a belt.
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on topic
Kizaru seems to kick something @ page 14. Wonder what kinf pf ability or style he have. Maybe Sanji/Kizaru?I think Mr. X is someone we know. Maybe Garp. He was on the way
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No when you zoom I think you can see it is more of a slip than a belt.
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I also THINK it looks like panties, but Oda has never drawn panties before, so why should he do it now? (In Enies Lobby, he even shadowed all the scenes where we could have seen Nami's panties or lack of the same :P)
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woohoo! thanks doflamingo
oh no. my winzip wont work… im going to throw my computer against the wall
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I also THINK it looks like panties, but Oda has never drawn panties before, so why should he do it now? (In Enies Lobby, he even shadowed all the scenes where we could have seen Nami's panties or lack of the same :P)
Probably because looking up a girls skirt is significantly more perverted than one noting that a girls pants are too low cut to cover her underwear. The first is an invasion on your part whilst the latter is more likely an effect the girl in question was going for.
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Wow this was fast. Thanks for the early chapter, Kizaru looks kick ass!
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Maybe Oda is now old enough to draw something like that =P
No seriousy. when you zoom in, you can see that it's clearly the form of a panty an there is a small openinh where u can see Robin's skin. so it can't be a belt.
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Probably because looking up a girls skirt is significantly more perverted than one noting that a girls pants are too low cut to cover her underwear. The first is an invasion on your part whilst the latter is more likely an effect the girl in question was going for.
I got your point but the thing that hits me as strange, is that Oda hasn't drawn panties in whole 50 volumes (bikini panties aside :P), no matter if the girls were wearing short skirts or low cut pants. As far I remember, Miss Doublefinger had pretty low cut pants and we didn't get to any panties there. And in some ways, I don't see it being perverted seeing a girl's panties up the skirt if she e.g. is running. Yes, it's pretty sure it's panties but it just extremely hard to believe it.
Drools :D
By the way, wasn't there an SBS question in vol. 22 where Oda replied that he wouldn't draw Nami and Robins panties in order to respect their privacy? O.O -
@毛唐人:
You and me both, man. (check out my post on the last page of the spoilers )
Ah, I guess you had the impression before me then. Well anyways, let's hope that we're right. And furthermore, let's hope that the guy is really a bounty hunter, since the OP world is in terrible need of a strong representative of that field of work.^^
Also let's spend the rest of this week playing match the foot to all known characters whose foot we've seen.
Lol, we can't do that for the guess from ketou nin and myself since we never saw the axe guy's feet.
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Mr Mafia seems to have some kinda ability cause he just stands front of aiming marines? And age age no mi is really good… Can't wait children SH vs Bonney pirates fight. Oh and is Yellow Monkey, kick fighter? He has looooong legs. And explosive kick, what's behind that? Dammed panties, they kind of.. hot, b-but look that smile, she is really funded place to stay...
I believe that's the ability to not be intimidated in the face of danger.
Nice to see the other supernova have more guts then people have given them credit for.
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They are panties. Robin has always dressed kinda slutty…
(I love this conversation )Kizaru is the god of Rokushiki!! (I've said that three times now lol)
Rankyaku:Spirit Bomb!!!!!
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Waouw ! Thanks for the RAW a Thursday !
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I believe that's the ability to not be intimidated in the face of danger.
Nice to see the other supernova have more guts then people have given them credit for.
Oh yes… power of poker face, i forget that... thx reminding me.
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They are panties. Robin has always dressed kinda slutty…
(I love this conversation )Kizaru is the god of Rokushiki!! (I've said that three times now lol)
Rankyaku:Sprit Bomb!!!!!
Yeah U said it 3 times now and never explained why…
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I had never noticed Apoo had two elbows on each arm… 4th image on p.15... :blink:
So, who's gonna be the mysterious character in the end? A supernova that is not busy (Drake? Urouge?), Blackbeard (He delivered Ace and was made Shichibukai, he must be at Mariejoie), Smoker (been a long time), Dragon, Buggy (he will have to go through Sabaody also) or the axeman? Must be someone we at least heard about... because there really are too many characters right now to still add new ones. Let's start a "who is Duval" kind of debate for a week or two! :ninja:
Just imagine how many voice actors will have to gather when this mess is animated...
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Well that because Apoo is a member of the Long Arm Tribe.
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@Roman:
I had never noticed Apoo had two elbows on each arm… 4th image on p.15... :blink:
coughLong-Arm-Tribecough
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Oh yeah… Never made the link between Apoo and the race on the auction's starting prices. I can't wait to see Orochimaru the snakeneck then... :ninja:
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Waouw ! Thanks for the RAW a Thursday !
If it really was a raw we would have a translation by now.
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Yeah U said it 3 times now and never explained why…
Oh yeah… Ok, so we know that rokushiki is not confined to just the CP9 because Vice Admiral Garp was able to teach it to Coby and probably Helmeppo. This causes me to believe that the Rokushiki Techniques can be learned by any high ranking official in the marines and the world government. So far from Kizaru we have seen him get shot in the head and not even flinch.(tekkai?) Ride on a cannonball (soru?geppou?) and his recent kick possibly just flew(rankyaku?) So unless it is a devil fuit giving him these abilities (possible) I say he has a complete mastery of Rokushiki. Someone had to create the techniques and by shonen law are usually experts at using them and I say this person is Kizaru.
There. Explained.
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And you did it well
Blue
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@Roman:
Oh yeah… Never made the link between Apoo and the race on the auction's starting prices. I can't wait to see Orochimaru the snakeneck then... :ninja:
Erm, I wasn't refering to the price list but no his intro blurb in chapter 498. ;)
As far as longnecks are concerned, could Moria be one of them? :blink:
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I'm quite anxious for a translation of this chapter.
I'm with Ivotas and the others who are assuming the person who approaches Luffy (and the SH crew) is the Axe man. No one else seems to fit. And like Roman Zaemon said, there have been way too many new characters to have yet another new character. Though, technically, the Axe man would still be a new character, but at least there's a reference for him.
About the Robin thingey in the colourspread… I was actually quite surprised looking over the image myself. When I first saw the comments about it being her panties, my first thought was "No way! This is One Piece, this stuff never happens", but looking at it myself, I can't think of any other piece of clothing it could be but panties... Maybe Oda left it up to one of his assistants to finish up the colourspread and we got that surprise.
About Kizaru being Master/Creator of rokushiki... Neat idea, though I think it's a bit soon to reveal the creator of it... but who knows...
Good catch on the double elbows on Apoo. I noticed it in some previous chapters, but I couldn't put my finger one what was strange. And also, good catch on it probably being due to him being from the long arm tribe.
Oda has definitely setup massive potential for future characters with this arc.
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Why the hell did Kizaru cut the tree? This is holy ground, in the middle of a city, with houses in the trees.
This random destruction does not fit an admiral! This is just stupid. Its like he doesnt care, why are there still trees after centuries the Tenryuubito went wild and called for their admirals, if an admiral just cuts trees down or kills civilians this way? With this kind of reckless moves he might kill a Tenryuubito in the path…. Someone like that has the power to invoke Buster Call.... yay...
This is one major downside of this chapter. Makes me dislike Kizaru, even Aokiji is nobody for senseless destruction with his lazyness. (And Aokiji is called the strongest in HQ..)
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Erm, I wasn't refering to the price list but no his intro blurb in chapter 498. ;)
Forgive him, for he probably read the Franky House scanlation of that chapter.
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Why the hell did Kizaru cut the tree? This is holy ground, in the middle of a city, with houses in the trees.
I'm pretty sure Shabody (sp?) isn't holy ground, just where everyone goes before they go to the holy ground/city. But you do make a good point.
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Looking at Robin, I pretty sure those are panties. They have a knot just above the patch of skin.
And I think Kizaru looks hilarious. Shame I can only read Japanese.
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Why the hell did Kizaru cut the tree? This is holy ground, in the middle of a city, with houses in the trees.
This random destruction does not fit an admiral! This is just stupid. Its like he doesnt care, why are there still trees after centuries the Tenryuubito went wild and called for their admirals, if an admiral just cuts trees down or kills civilians this way? With this kind of reckless moves he might kill a Tenryuubito in the path…. Someone like that has the power to invoke Buster Call.... yay...
This is one major downside of this chapter. Makes me dislike Kizaru, even Aokiji is nobody for senseless destruction with his lazyness. (And Aokiji is called the strongest in HQ..)
He's in the lawless zone. Populated by pirates and outlaws.
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Why the hell did Kizaru cut the tree? This is holy ground, in the middle of a city, with houses in the trees.
This random destruction does not fit an admiral! This is just stupid. Its like he doesnt care, why are there still trees after centuries the Tenryuubito went wild and called for their admirals, if an admiral just cuts trees down or kills civilians this way? With this kind of reckless moves he might kill a Tenryuubito in the path…. Someone like that has the power to invoke Buster Call.... yay...
This is one major downside of this chapter. Makes me dislike Kizaru, even Aokiji is nobody for senseless destruction with his lazyness. (And Aokiji is called the strongest in HQ..)
Wouldn't the Tenryuubito live in Mariejoa? I don't recall anything indicated they stayed there was shown in the Sabaody chart. It's unlikely they'd go to a place literred with pirates outside of the human auction.
And aside from that, he seems to be obviously attacking the mass of pirates in front of him. It wasn't exactly random.
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You are right, he cut mangrove 27, thats a lawless one. But… there are only 79 mangroves. They are producing the bubbles... a fully developed mangrove that grew for centuries might be better than a mangrove which was cut down? I am no greenpeace tree saver.... but this archipelago depends on these trees. But that might be Kizaru's personality, he likes to show off. ;)
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Armed with a Chinese-English dictionary, I'm attempting to translate however much I can until someone better than me does so.
First page:
Rayleigh: Regardless that Shanks had not told you, I naturally can't meddle in the affairs of others. In conclusion, I'm really happy to see that you all have broken through the hazards to get here!! That guy has waited for you until he can't wait anymore in the "New World"!!
Luffy: Really?! Me Too!! I want to see him too!!
Rayleigh: However, back to the matter at hand, you came to get your ship coated. Then I'll start on my specialty.
Hachi: Nyuu~ Speaking of this, the coating is extremely expensive.
Rayleigh: No, no need for that Hachi. I won't charge your friends.
Hachi: That's wonderful. Thank you Rayleigh.
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Ussop: Uwoo!! Even though we don't know exactly how much will be spent, but a free service is too awesome!!Sanji: Thanks, you're a really generous old man.
Robin: Mr. Rayleigh, I have a question.
Robin: The so-called "Will of D", what is it truly?
Robin: On the sky island, I saw Roger's name carved in ancient script on the "original text of history" (Poneglyph). How is he able to understand that script?
Text: I arrived here, using this as a guide I reached the end. Pirate Gol D. Roger
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Robin: Do you and your crew know what in the world happened in the "Void Century" starting 900 years ago?Rayleigh: Yeah… We know. We... know a slice of the history.
Rayleigh: But, Little Miss, please... on your boat... forge ahead the time slowly, piece by piece. Perhaps... we, including "Ohara", all are a bit too eager to succeed.
All day and only 3 pages. I don't know nearly enough to be a translator.
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can anyone confirm this? but i believe someone said that when kizaru jumped off the cannon ball when he first showed up that the sound effect was "pika", to suggest some light ability. Wonder if kizaru ate some Hi Hi no mi (light light fruit).