Omg I Knew The First Thing Oz Would Say Is "meeeat!" Read My Thread "reactions!" I Fucking Knew It! I Own All Of You, Biytoches!!!!!
Chapter 457 "MEAT~~~!!!" Discussion
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One Piece 457 HQ by [Franky House]
@Sarlaccboy:Omg I Knew The First Thing Oz Would Say Is "meeeat!" Read My Thread "reactions!" I Fucking Knew It! I Own All Of You, Biytoches!!!!!
Good job!! very typical of Luffy!! Right after he wakes up from a deep sleep (this guy is 500 years dead)– it is food time.
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Oh, and yes Aldrich: Cut it off. Cut it off seriously. And learn some manners. That would be a gift to the dicussion-atmosphere here in my opinion.
Come on, Aldrich is one of the few reasons why I still visit the manga section.
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Come on, Aldrich is one of the few reasons why I still visit the manga section.
**what about me kind sir.
Even though I barley post >.>**
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what about me kind sir.
Even though I barley post >.>
Oh sorry Polygon, you are a nice guy too.
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ty for agreeing venicia
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@Monkey:
I have to say I'm sorely disappointed with Nami. For the past few weeks it's like she's forgotten everything she'd learnt at Alabasta, Skypiea and Enies Lobby. sigh In EL Nami actually walked up to Califa and picked up a cat-fight with her, but after like 9 chapters of running away, we've only seen her use her clima-tact once. Is it too much to ask of Oda that characters actually use the skills he gives them? Because this chapter would have been infinitely better if she'd whipped out the clima-tact and done anything other than letting herself get caught. I mean, if she's trying to get away so hard why not conjure fog? Why not use fricking Mirage Tempo?
Hahaha reading this thread reminds me how i freaked out about robin back in 454 chapter discussion ^^ Its all good guys its just plot devices =P
Greg is it that Oz Yells meat or that it takes so long untill he does that dissapoints you?
It is a terribly dramatic moment so ofc Oda is going to prolong it…
But what else could the 900Zombie scream/say?
It would be too Out of character for him to stay quiet and Lufy doesnt eaxtly bring up wanting to become Pirate king out of the blue (he only does it in response to Luffys dream, others dreams, someone bringing up pirate king.) so that would be ooc as well.
The only other thing i can imagine him saying would be "Where's my treasure?" or "Hmmm?! GAH! Where is it?" or something like that. Which might acctually be a bit too obscure.. (or plot ruiening?)I'm not sure about this but it seems that Oz doesnt infact rember Sanji but it is more an instinct/reflex to ask Sanji for food much like how Luffy learned to eat while sleeping. (The reasons i think this is because the speach bubble that is asking who sanji is has a longer and thinner spike pointing away from Moria and the gang at what is presumably Oz direction. also Sanji was named by name on the wanted poster so there is no reason for the Mysterious crew to ask who he is… unless they are completly retarded). That beeing said how will Oz react to the straw hat when he sees it? and why isnt Shadow luffy wearing a straw hat? he is wearing a vest shorts and sandals isnt he?
Can someone clearify what chopper says about the smell covering Absolom? some translations only says "some odor" while others describe it as "flower smell"
Could it be that Usopps viper stars is the cause of the smell rather then any ability of Absolom? Chopper was able to smell him in the bathroom (even through Usopps fart) wasnt he? Or did Absolom just prepare this time and brought some fancy bathoils? -
I don't want Usopp to tank like Luffy/Zoro/Sanji, I just want Oda to quit teasing me by giving him all kinds of awesome new abilities, giving him great dramatic moments and introducing stuff like Sogeking, making it seem like hes going to try and improve himself, etc and then having it lead nowhere and deprive him of any kind of good fight.
I mean I love pretty much everything about his character. Hes different, his character design is unique (even when its based off of something so simple), his personality is great, he pulls the liar and coward routine off well, any scene with him trying to be cool or funny is awesome for me, etc. Out of all the Straw Hats he and Luffy are my favorites (although I usually like all of them), and Odas handling Luffy just fine. Thing is all the Straw Hats have been getting development of some kind while Usopps just running in circles so to speak.
His dream is to become a "brave warrior of the sea" and right now hes still a "useless pansy of the sea". He has the most potential for real character development out of any of the Straw Hats and it just seems like Oda loves holding him back. I mean he was capable of showing bravery way back when he fought Chew in the Arlong arc (heck even during Kuro). What has he really done since then development wise other than get the new weapons? Not much.
He basically needs to start realizing his dream and getting the kind of fights he used to get that he deals with in his own way again.
Also Ivotas I distinctly remember you get pissed off in these topics back during Enies Lobby when the stuff was happening with Usopp in the manga. I don't know how you felt about the character before that, but you wouldn't of posted as much as you did on the subject if it hasn't of bothered you on some level.
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Dear lord, do I have to write even longer extended text that everything I want to say is clear? Of course you didn´t say anything like that, I just said that it´s tiresome to read critiques about critiques because not all critiques are unjustified.
And on this certain specific topic, I didn´t write a critique out of the blue but decided to put the thoughts I´ve kept to myself for a long time to paper and share them here. The stuff I said about Usopp not being able to hit quick targets is not something that I just made up out of the blue after reading this chapter, but is rather the conclusion of what we´ve seen him do ever since he´s been introduced years ago.
Even without that chapter, my argument would be exactly the same. The only thing that would be different is that it would be lacking one example (which would be Usopp missing Absalom this chapter). I don´t change my opinions like a flag in the wind.
Ok, i understand your argument. Confirmed. xD Btw: You have to visit the pirateboard.
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Greg is it that Oz Yells meat or that it takes so long untill he does that dissapoints you?
It is a terribly dramatic moment so ofc Oda is going to prolong it…
But what else could the 900Zombie scream/say?See now here's the thing….if it were indeed dramatic, none of us would have seen it coming. But with so many people on the board predicting what it would have been, what's the point in wasting pages building up to it as the punch-line? Boring.
It would be too Out of character for him to stay quiet and Lufy doesnt eaxtly bring up wanting to become Pirate king out of the blue (he only does it in response to Luffys dream, others dreams, someone bringing up pirate king.) so that would be ooc as well.
The only other thing i can imagine him saying would be "Where's my treasure?" or "Hmmm?! GAH! Where is it?" or something like that. Which might acctually be a bit too obscure.. (or plotI'm really not suggesting he should/could have said anything else, but with such a predictable gag, why bother literally wasting the hell out of pages leading up to it being all faux dramatic for a joke we knew was coming.
Probably 44 weeks of the year (accounting for double issues) I'll read OP and can't believe the chapter is still going. But this week not only was I disappointed by the content, but when I reached the last page it hit me like a cinderblock to the face, "HUH!? IT'S ALREADY OVER?"
A horribly constructed/executed chapter. To be expected every once in a while when you create a 450+ chapter story.
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See now here's the thing….if it were indeed dramatic, none of us would have seen it coming. But with so many people on the board predicting what it would have been, what's the point in wasting pages building up to it as the punch-line? Boring.
I'm really not suggesting he should/could have said anything else, but with such a predictable gag, why bother literally wasting the hell out of pages leading up to it being all faux dramatic for a joke we knew was coming.[…]
oda does not create one piece for arlongpark members,
not every reader ( especially really young ones ) expect such obvious predicted gagsplease keep that in mind while reading an OP chapter :happy:
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oda does not create one piece for arlongpark members
I was waiting for someone to say this.
Then I could say this:
AP members are nothing compared to the Japanese readers. If you think members here analyze OP until nothing is left, you haven't seen the discussion on Japanese OP message boards. They absorb and argue over evey detail until it almost reaches the point of insanity, and sometimes it does.
If we, foreigners reading it could casually read where it was going, it hit Japanese readers like a feather.
"But you couldn't know that so shut up!"
Um, there's 400 Japanese readers about 20 meters to my right as I type this and I've been discussing with them since this morning how lame it was to which they heartily agree.
That said, Oda certainly doesn't make OP for AP members. He makes it for OP fans. He knows us far better than we know him. He knows better than to pull crap like that.
Again….such is life. I dunno why people are arguing against my opinion that this chapter sucked raw sewage from a dirty ass. I've presented why I feel the way I do and I've also said multiple times, it's one week out of a 450+ chapter story. It's a miracle there haven't been more stinkers like this.
But it's precisely because I know Oda IS so good, that we shouldn't be subjected to this torture.
Again, oh well, next week will be better.
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AP members are nothing compared to the Japanese readers. If you think members here analyze OP until nothing is left, you haven't seen the discussion on Japanese OP message boards.
Now that is scary.
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AP members are nothing compared to the Japanese readers. If you think members here analyze OP until nothing is left, you haven't seen the discussion on Japanese OP message boards. They absorb and argue over evey detail until it almost reaches the point of insanity, and sometimes it does.
Can you please provide some samples (summaries or memorable quotes) for us Nihongo-challenged people? :D
I like to imagine somewhere there's a man in a basement on Hokkaido who is also thinking "the Arlong Pirate symbol looks really cool cut into my computer case, but I can't quite get up the balls to get it tattooed."
Um, there's 400 Japanese readers about 20 meters to my right as I type this and I've been discussing with them since this morning how lame it was to which they heartily agree.
I believe it did have some meritorious points. That SZ-900 would immediately pull a Luffy was ESSENTIAL and hilarious. We knew it would involve meat, but I guess that proves it that Luffy thinks meat first, hat second. I loved the whole "I realised Hogback is an asshole" portion– very non-traditional for Chopper, and very character-growthy.
That said, Oda certainly doesn't make OP for AP members. He makes it for OP fans. He knows us far better than we know him. He knows better than to pull crap like that.
Well, AP is probably a fairly representative subset of English speaking OP fans. Its poor popularity in the English-speaking world means that there are going to be fewer casual fans of the sort who are not going to join a site like AP.
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Probably 44 weeks of the year (accounting for double issues) I'll read OP and can't believe the chapter is still going. But this week not only was I disappointed by the content, but when I reached the last page it hit me like a cinderblock to the face, "HUH!? IT'S ALREADY OVER?"
Exactly! This chapter did three things
- MEAT! (but we saw this happening and 7 pages of selling this was not neccesary)
- Chopper got pissed at Hogback (nice!)
- Nami goes to Absalom and Chopper and Usopp meet up with Robin and Franky
VERY, VERY light in terms of a usual exposition chapter
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Can you please provide some samples (summaries or memorable quotes) for us Nihongo-challenged people?
Well I randomly visited a OP thread and there's a debate raging that Binks' ale could be Shanks' ale because of the sharing of three characters in their names -_-;
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Well I randomly visited a OP thread and there's a debate raging that Binks' ale could be Shanks' ale because of the sharing of three characters in their names -_-;
But Shanks probably drinks mostly rum and grog. Besides, I haven't seen any name-brand beverages (even fictional name-brand ones) yet. So how can we say that Shanks drinks Binks' ale when we aren't sure that particular brand of ale exists in the One Piece world?
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Looks like I'll have to buy another issue of Weekly Jump :)
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Well I randomly visited a OP thread and there's a debate raging that Binks' ale could be Shanks' ale because of the sharing of three characters in their names -_-;
Have they decided if Brooke is black yet?
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I was waiting for someone to say this.
Then I could say this:
AP members are nothing compared to the Japanese readers. If you think members here analyze OP until nothing is left, you haven't seen the discussion on Japanese OP message boards. They absorb and argue over evey detail until it almost reaches the point of insanity, and sometimes it does.
Personally I'd like to know if the Japanese fans argue if Luffy > Zoro
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@yvj:
Personally I'd like to know if the Japanese fans argue if Luffy > Zoro
Probably not as much as we argue Shanks vs. Mihawk…
Seriously, though, without being stereotypical or anything, I'm really not surprised that they have comprehensive debates about trivial issues. I play FFXI, and a lot of the JP people I know are very organized, efficient, and very vocal and intelligent. One of my friends and I will discuss the most random things...
But, we're straying off topic.
Nami is the key to ending this all, pretty much. If she creates bad weather and waves hit Thriller Bark, then it's goodbye zombies, pretty much.
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Have they decided if Brooke is black yet?
Seriously, it was already confirmed that Brooke is a skeleton.
Also gotta love how the last few pages were all about
OH NOES DONT POST IF YOU DONT HAVE MY OPINION, ODA IS GOD, ONE PIECE IS PERFECT
then the wiser members pwning the newbs.Next chapter for sure has two have Franky/Robin explaining to Usopp/Chopper about the situation, and that'll probably take at least a page or two.
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Yeah, but they mean his prior life. There's some theory that he was black before. Which I will admit, it would be cool if he was haha.
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I'm really not suggesting he should/could have said anything else, but with such a predictable gag, why bother literally wasting the hell out of pages leading up to it being all faux dramatic for a joke we knew was coming.
Well in the pages leading up to it, we did learn that Moria seems to have some pact he creates with the shadows, and for some reason Cindry didn't go through the process. The rest of that whole scene (save for 3 pages of it moving) weren't wasted either, as the incident with Usopp, Nami, and Chopper clearly will have in impact on what's going to happen… though a large portion of the proceeding dialogue was them having a relavation on what the reader already knows, which isn't necessarily that wasteful, and only came about due to Moria doing something that fans would expect of Luffy, and wouldn't work if he did something "No one would expect", which seemed to be the expectation of some people of every One Piece chapter, appearantly if nothing of that sort happens, then that takes it down a few notches.
Though I didn't think the chapter was amazing, it was far from bad. Only really horrible chapter I can recall in the past few months was the whole Franky running around with his underwear chapter.
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weren't wasted either, as the incident with Usopp, Nami, and Chopper clearly will have in impact on what's going to happen…
Sure they were wasted. He made characters that know better do stupid shit.
Christ on a cross! Why do people keep arguing a case for this chapter? If you liked it, fine. But I think it was a steaming pile of shit.
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Well I edited my post… was just stated some things (that may have already been pointed out before), not really trying to change anyone's opinion.
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@yvj:
Personally I'd like to know if the Japanese fans argue if Luffy > Zoro
those who think zorro pawns luffy, i would really hope they take it back..
remember when hawkeye told luffy, if he wanted to be pirate king, he had to be stronger than him..
all this while luffy has been fighting the bosses(captains) of other pirates…
obviously luffy's stronger than zorro..lets say the enies lobby arc,
if zorro fought lucci would u think he would've stood a chance? i guess he could take his attacks since zorro is a tough-ass, but he probably couldn't win..luffy went all out..almost died to win lucci..zorro on the other hand just fought maybe the 2nd best ryoshiki user kaku..but they said lucci is on a totally different level compared to them...
we were also exposed to his hidden move..that move that resembles the impact dial..i hope u know which one..whereby kaku never used..he just used ryankaku, cos i reckon he specialized in leg attacks..
lucci on the other hand mastered everything...thus adding his devil fruit making him even harder to beat"physically"...just imagine ace fighting with lcci..,he's probably pawn him easily...well just my opinion, zorro would not be able to beat luffy, but he will always be the best 2nd man in terms of combat in the crew..and about this thriller park arc, my guess is, we would see gear 3 in action all the way, whilst i hope chopper would power up! we have yet to see ussop's kabuto in action...and brook would probably win, with much flashbacks in between..
gecko moria imo is not a combat type captain...like he uses that motto "u do it" he probably needs strong people by his side..so im not sure if pawning him would be enough to dispel the shadow technic out of 900...
i reckon anyone would be able to win gecko if they reached him and if they already had their shadows taken away..providing they dont meet themselves or someone strong hahahaayt lets wait and see what happens!
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The only problem is that I could put on Wikipedia that Usopp was the one to defeat every member of CP9. Until someone corrected it, some people would believe it. I do not recall in any of the legends of Gol D. Roger spoken throughout the canon where he fought a gunslinger. The two things I remember is that he fought Whitebeard to a draw, and that he could read the Ponyglyphs.
Dammit… I would love that. Just realized, it was only from anime Loguetown fillers. They mentioned he fought Silver-Silver, Kung-fu Brothers, Killer Giant and King of the Eric Pirates. Well, even though its not mentioned in manga, its still possible!
P.S. to scioinkai. You could have just said this. Lucci's doukiri was 4000 and Kakus was only 2200... That means Lucci was almost 2 times more powerful than Kaku -
Greg i wasnt trying to argue with you to try and prove this chapter was good… i was trying to see just what it was that dissapointed you. ^^ thanks for clearing that up, and i agree with you it took a bit too long.
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Dammit… I would love that. Just realized, it was only from anime Loguetown fillers. They mentioned he fought Silver-Silver, Kung-fu Brothers, Killer Giant and King of the Eric Pirates. Well, even though its not mentioned in manga, its still possible!
P.S. to scioinkai. You could have just said this. Lucci's doukiri was 4000 and Kakus was only 2200... That means Lucci was almost 2 times more powerful than KakuI think Oda actually mentioned that most of what happened in the Loguetown filler was actually supposed to be written in the manga, but he ran out of time and wanted to hurry and get them to the Grand Line, so he omitted it. I know that Usopp purchasing his goggles particularly was shown in an SBS of Vol 14. Daddy the Father was a good piece of filler, although with a weird name for the character.
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**HaHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh wow.**
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I crack you up how, I mean I crack people up like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean crack you up, how? How do I crack you up?
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You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I crack you up how, I mean I crack people up like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean crack you up, how? How do I crack you up?
Hehe, nice try, but not enough. I mean Good Fellas is a good film but why do you quote Pesci here?
But if this is a real question: Yes you amuse me like a clown. xD I know you don´t ask me but i really don´t understand your offensiv attitude. -
Hehe, nice try, but not enough. I mean Good Fellas is a good film but why do you quote Pesci here?
But if this is a real question: Yes you amuse me like a clown. xD I know you don´t ask me but i really don´t understand your offensiv attitude.Because Joe Pesci was here
And I understand Aldrich's offensive attitude. People on manga section tend to discuss things to point of ridiculous, and Aldrich always makes fun of this.
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Yeesh, was the whopping 2-page build up to Luffy-monster predictably saying "Meat!" really that infuriating?
I was impressed with the impulsiveness of Usopp's attack on Absalom to try and save Nami. It's a complete 180 from his attempt to rescue her in Skypiea where, after taking a cheap shot from the back and then hiding, he had to talk himself into facing Ener and then ended up asking Nami herself to "save" him.
For those people shitting bricks over Usopp and Chopper getting overtaken by the zombies, remember that even Robin, Franky and Luffy were forced to retreat earlier due to their sheer overwhelming numbers. That changed when Robin and Franky discovered their weakness, so next chapter Usopp and Chopper will hopefully also get their chance TO KILL STUFF.
I hope Robin hasn't completely stopped with the nicknames for the crew, I kind of liked them. And I was waiting to see what she'd come up with for Franky. (It sure took Oda long enough to show us her adressing him by NAME.) Their entrance at the end was quite awesome. Nice reuinion between the two oldest and youngest Straw Hats.
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@Taz:
I was impressed with the impulsiveness of Usopp's attack on Absalom to try and save Nami. It's a complete 180 from his attempt to rescue her in Skypiea where, after taking a cheap shot from the back and then hiding, he had to talk himself into facing Ener and then ended up asking Nami herself to "save" him.
Agreed. I think after the CP9 confrontation and acting as Sogeking and facing Luffy andthe Franky Family…... well, let's just say after the whole W7/CP9 arc, USOPP FINALLY GAINED SOME COURAGE!!!! HUZZAH!!!!
Next up on the list: Chopper (Nami gained herfighting worth with Clima Tact. Especially Perfect Clima Tact. =D)
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You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I crack you up how, I mean I crack people up like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean crack you up, how? How do I crack you up?
Hey Aldrich.
Hehe, nice try, but not enough. I mean Good Fellas is a good film but why do you quote Pesci here?
But if this is a real question: Yes you amuse me like a clown. xD I know you don´t ask me but i really don´t understand your offensiv attitude.**HaHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh wow.**
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Thanks for the chapter! It's short, sweet and simple. Very straightforward.
Why is everyone fighting about it here? O_O
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In my opinion, Chapter 457 is definitely far from a masterpiece, but not so bad, either.
To disappointed fans,
In case you don't know, Oda is not a lazy worker.
His sleep time is 1 hour four days a week, 6 hours two days, and 15 hours off-day, according to this article.
http://nippon.zaidan.info/seikabutsu/2002/00105/contents/004.htm
And he must have been even busier lately, working on a pop-up book, "ONE PIECE GRAND PAPER ADVENTURE 3D."
It seems many Japanese readers are now getting worried about his health, physical and mental.
They don't want him to be like Togashi, the auther of Hunter x Hunter.
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I don't think anybody accused him to be lazy. We know mangakas, especially the ones who must produce weekly chapters have crazy schedules.
Reminds me of Hagiwara, the author of Bastard!! who was saying in a short comic strip that he slept 3 times half an hour a day when working on his manga.
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How is the author of HxH btw? is he completly retired?
the team usopp contribution in this chapter doesnt really obther me… i see it as plotdevices to make Robins and Frankys entrace be more impressive (just as Franky and Robin was weak before Brook showed up in 454)... now that they meet up things are going to change.
Can anyone answer me what Chopper smells after Absolom dissapears? is it flowers or some undefineble odor (the translations seem to be unable to agree)? could it be the viperstars Usopp tried to hit absolom with that Chopper is smelling? wondering since gunpowder would definetly hide Absoloms BO imo.
Will Oz have any "treasure" like Luffy or will he not care about that since the StrawHat's shadow itself didnt get copied along Luffy?
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the team usopp contribution in this chapter doesnt really obther me… i see it as plotdevices to make Robins and Frankys entrace be more impressive (just as Franky and Robin was weak before Brook showed up in 454)... now that they meet up things are going to change.
True that they are plot devices for that reason but they could have been handled in a way that doesn´t make them appear as completely useless. If it would be just General Zombies that own Usopp and Chopper then most definitely nobody wouldn´t complain because we saw that Luffy, Robin and Franky together didn´t have an easy time on them.
But it was a huge lot of Soldier and Surprise Zombies that owned them which is disappointing since this zombie kind is nothing else but cannon fodder. And that there was two armored zombies doesn´t change anything because it most certainly didn´t appear that they lost because of these two guys.
Usopp and Chopper could and should have delivered somewhat of a fight against cannon fodder and afterwards requiring help from Robin and Franky when the tougher opponents enter. I mean just look back what happened at the Graveyard, Chopper changed to Walk Point and kicked some asses. Why doesn´t he do it her at let himself get raped?
And Usopp makes even lesser sense. If you take any movie in which zombie fighting is a matter, then the character with the gun, shotgun or whatsoever is always a safe bet to be the ace of the protagonists. And of the team Usopp is the only one with a fire weapon but did he use it to keep the zombies at distance? No he didn´t and that is disappointing.
Can anyone answer me what Chopper smells after Absolom dissapears? is it flowers or some undefineble odor (the translations seem to be unable to agree)? could it be the viperstars Usopp tried to hit absolom with that Chopper is smelling? wondering since gunpowder would definetly hide Absoloms BO imo.
Yeah, the translations are a bit undecided on that matter. But I´m once again siding with Stephen´s version since it only remains vague about having an other odor snuffing Namis sent out, while the other version includes that thought but is less vague and even says what kind of odor it is. The more funny thing about the scent, the attack and Absaloms ability will most certainly be that once we find out what it actually is it will make so much plausible sense to us but that we simply can´t get a good guess at what it is beforehand. I mainly speak for myself. I know I´ll be like "of course, what else could it have been?" when it gets revealed but right now I´m like "I don´t have the slightest idea".
Will Oz have any "treasure" like Luffy or will he not care about that since the StrawHat's shadow itself didnt get copied along Luffy?
Good question, didn´t think about that. The treasure (Strawhat) is as much an important thing to Luffy as becoming a Pirate King. It´d be weird actually if Oz would completely forget about that. So, would that make Luffy´s hat Oz´ treasure aswell? Could be IMO.
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I am disappointed in Usopp more so than chopper. Usopp really hasn't develop as a character. We've seen flashes of his braveness but when it comes to a fight he just completely gets owned. He upgrades his weapon and still doesn't help in any of the fights. Maybe know that he knows there weakness he will think of some sort of attack. I am hoping since he is a sniper one shoot of salt in the mouth to multiple zombies we will see. Hopefully we would see him defeat a general zombie or some one stronger. I am curious to see how perona will fight she doesn't seem like the fighting type having just ghost so far as her weapon.
The reason why im not disappointed in chopper is because he is going through some problems with the realization of HogBak just being a villian and it appears to be affecting him so once he clears that out of his mind he should be able to own. Chopper v HogBak
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I think Ussop, Nami and Robin (yes Robin too) are more the "fighting crew" of the SH. what I mean by that is : their fighting abilities are very efficient when it comes to defeat many averages oponents in a short amount of time. Ussop is still the weakest but in the futur… I think it was Francis Drake who captured a warship with only a dozen of men : they sniped the crew until redition.
ps : Booke was black, it's 100% sure : the black guy always die first in fictions
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Why do I have a feeling Brooke may be one of the few characters that actually dies in the end and at that time we'll get to see what he looked like?
Maybe because I watch too much Disney.
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I don't think anybody accused him to be lazy. We know mangakas, especially the ones who must produce weekly chapters have crazy schedules.
Reminds me of Hagiwara, the author of Bastard!! who was saying in a short comic strip that he slept 3 times half an hour a day when working on his manga.
OK. So, let's be easy on him, shall we?
How is the author of HxH btw? is he completly retired?
Nobody knows how he is and what the heck he is doing now.
All kinds of rumor around: he's having fun playing games, etc. -
I think Ussop, Nami and Robin (yes Robin too) are more the "fighting crew" of the SH. what I mean by that is : their fighting abilities are very efficient when it comes to defeat many averages oponents in a short amount of time. Ussop is still the weakest but in the futur… I think it was Francis Drake who captured a warship with only a dozen of men : they sniped the crew until redition.
ps : Booke was black, it's 100% sure : the black guy always die first in fictions
Enies Lobbies completely discredits your argument luffy took at out least 5x as many people as the other characters i forgot the number of people he took out but i think it was 5,000 marines
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This chapter was a rare below average chapter, but the last page was freaking fantastic. I'm a bit confusion on what Absalom's power is exactly, but I guess it'll be revealed soon.
Also, the color spread was really cool, I've been waiting for another Western themed one.
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Oda's planning for this chapter would be roughly like this:
The first half for suspense with a touch of humor.
UsoNamiCho trio's "Gyaaaaa!" breaks the tranquillity and chages tempo.
The second half for demystification and action.
The last page for "Don!"
I guess the first half would have been better ,say, with some more jokes.