I have no idea where this cover story is going but I’m very excited for it to continue
Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead)
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I have no idea where this cover story is going but I’m very excited for it to continue
Seeing as how it’s a “pilgrimage”, I imagine Yamato could end up on a spiritual journey, like a journey of self-discovery.
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Do you guys think Bonney would travel with Luffy after Egghead and learn more Nika moves from him? It doesn't have to be as an apprentice, since she has been a pirate captain, but considering how Luffy was also a pirate captain who learned from Rayleigh, could you see a student/teacher relationship also playing out with Bonney?
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The distorted future ability gives Bonney’s fighting style more variety than just turning people old or young
I could actually see her being a Straw Hat now
Not saying she will join but her chances are definitely better
Also she’ll need someone to protect now that she poses such a significant threat to the world government
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Also she’ll need someone to protect now that she poses such a significant threat to the world government
Yeah, maybe something like a small army of killer robot dads that the biggest fleet of Marines we've seen so far struggled with and took one of the most important people in the world who usually just hides away in their little chamber to disable.
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@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Also she’ll need someone to protect now that she poses such a significant threat to the world government
Yeah, maybe something like a small army of killer robot dads that the biggest fleet of Marines we've seen so far struggled with and took one of the most important people in the world who usually just hides away in their little chamber to disable.
You think she’s going to travel the world with hundreds of pacifistas around her at all times?
Plus you’re forgetting that super important person disabled all of them around her
They won’t be following her anywhere
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With Bonney's fighting style turning away from uniqueness to just be Luffy-lite; plus her ability to control Pacifistas, even if they are not following her all the time; plus Kuma still being alive and the very likely chance of him surviving this arc and being restored through Bonney's absorbed memories, I say her chances of being a permanent new member of the crew are very low.
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Kuma and Bonney traveling the world together would make me so happy
That being said…. My 2.9 devil fruit theory!
So I’m conflicted
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Also she’ll need someone to protect now that she poses such a significant threat to the world government
Yeah, maybe something like a small army of killer robot dads that the biggest fleet of Marines we've seen so far struggled with and took one of the most important people in the world who usually just hides away in their little chamber to disable.
You think she’s going to travel the world with hundreds of pacifistas around her at all times?
Plus you’re forgetting that super important person disabled all of them around her
They won’t be following her anywhere
Yep, Pacifista won't amount to as much if people like Ethan can just disable them like that.
This along with Kuma being incapacitated may mean Bonney is best off sticking with Luffy for the time being.
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Also she’ll need someone to protect now that she poses such a significant threat to the world government
Yeah, maybe something like a small army of killer robot dads that the biggest fleet of Marines we've seen so far struggled with and took one of the most important people in the world who usually just hides away in their little chamber to disable.
You think she’s going to travel the world with hundreds of pacifistas around her at all times?
Plus you’re forgetting that super important person disabled all of them around her
They won’t be following her anywhere
- Her reason to travel the world has been achieved.
- I'm not forgetting that. Nusjuro disabled the Pacifista but nothing says they're permanently destroyed, especially when he seems to "only" have frozen them for now. But sure, the Straw Hats obviously are much better at protecting people than Pacifista.
I forgot that this thread is concentrated "let me desperately look for reasons to make this character get permanent focus", don't mind me fucking off from this hellhole.
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@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Also she’ll need someone to protect now that she poses such a significant threat to the world government
Yeah, maybe something like a small army of killer robot dads that the biggest fleet of Marines we've seen so far struggled with and took one of the most important people in the world who usually just hides away in their little chamber to disable.
You think she’s going to travel the world with hundreds of pacifistas around her at all times?
Plus you’re forgetting that super important person disabled all of them around her
They won’t be following her anywhere
- Her reason to travel the world has been achieved.
- I'm not forgetting that. Nusjuro disabled the Pacifista but nothing says they're permanently destroyed, especially when he seems to "only" have frozen them for now. But sure, the Straw Hats obviously are much better at protecting people than Pacifista.
I forgot that this thread is concentrated "let me desperately look for reasons to make this character get permanent focus", don't mind me fucking off from this hellhole.
Well I suppose if the arc ends with her traveling the world with an army of pacifistas we will know you were right
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Also she’ll need someone to protect now that she poses such a significant threat to the world government
Yeah, maybe something like a small army of killer robot dads that the biggest fleet of Marines we've seen so far struggled with and took one of the most important people in the world who usually just hides away in their little chamber to disable.
You think she’s going to travel the world with hundreds of pacifistas around her at all times?
Plus you’re forgetting that super important person disabled all of them around her
They won’t be following her anywhere
- Her reason to travel the world has been achieved.
- I'm not forgetting that. Nusjuro disabled the Pacifista but nothing says they're permanently destroyed, especially when he seems to "only" have frozen them for now. But sure, the Straw Hats obviously are much better at protecting people than Pacifista.
I forgot that this thread is concentrated "let me desperately look for reasons to make this character get permanent focus", don't mind me fucking off from this hellhole.
Well I suppose if the arc ends with her traveling the world with an army of pacifistas we will know you were right
I re-emphasize time and time again that I treat this thread as good speculated fun at the end of the day.
If people will go so far as to respond with posts such as "fucking off from this hellhole", then I'll leave those feelings to them. I certainly don't need to share in such feelings. lol
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Coookie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Also she’ll need someone to protect now that she poses such a significant threat to the world government
Yeah, maybe something like a small army of killer robot dads that the biggest fleet of Marines we've seen so far struggled with and took one of the most important people in the world who usually just hides away in their little chamber to disable.
You think she’s going to travel the world with hundreds of pacifistas around her at all times?
Plus you’re forgetting that super important person disabled all of them around her
They won’t be following her anywhere
- Her reason to travel the world has been achieved.
- I'm not forgetting that. Nusjuro disabled the Pacifista but nothing says they're permanently destroyed, especially when he seems to "only" have frozen them for now. But sure, the Straw Hats obviously are much better at protecting people than Pacifista.
I forgot that this thread is concentrated "let me desperately look for reasons to make this character get permanent focus", don't mind me fucking off from this hellhole.
Well I suppose if the arc ends with her traveling the world with an army of pacifistas we will know you were right
I re-emphasize time and time again that I treat this thread as good speculated fun at the end of the day.
If people will go so far as to respond with posts such as "fucking off from this hellhole", then I'll leave those feelings to them. I certainly don't need to share in such feelings. lol
Indeed! It’s all good fun guessing who might be next, there’s no need to be a jerk
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Nect Crewmate discussion is a lot like cheering for tour favorite sports team or political party, so people can get a bit… edgy.
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Candidate: Lilith
Gimmick: Fire starter, evil, antagonizes, provokes, instigator, "lets kill em" attitude when clearly unnecessary
Expertise:
- Crew would sing, Brook entered the chat.
- Nami patched up crew once or twice, Chopper here now.
- Usopp fixed up Merry, Franky was shipwright needed.
- Different members have been at helm, Jinbe took it over.
Usopp provided and upgraded weapons along w/ Franky, now a expert on weapons is here.
Possible dream: Create an undying flame for a sun that provides energy to the world just like Stella.
Interactions with crew away from Luffy and their initial group
Mention of possibly going out
Whatever comes next, i'll add to go against or build on this.
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meanwhile I constantly mix up this Vegapunk girl with the traitor Vegapunk girl....
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Lilith would be fun and of all the Punks she does feel like the one that will survive and stick around. The only issue with having any of the Vegapunks on the crew is that I think they heavily clash with Franky and Usopps roles. Lillith going with them to Elbaf and on the way teaching Franky some new skills that he can use to make General Franky even better would be the better option (imo)
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I really like Lilith, but c'mon: in a world of Nami clones, she is the the cloniest of them all. She is basically a Nami that invested points in aggro instead of wimpiness.
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I didn't include this, but my initial thought was that if York went to Teach or the WG, maybe the crew would get a weapon maker as well. Usopp and Franky kinda fall short in weapon making in comparison to a VP.
- Edison applies to make the ideas
- Pythagoras analyzes and consumes the data
- York is their physical health. Consumes to then burn energy and finally excrete
- Shaka knows what is best to do
- Atlas gets the frustration out
- Lilith is most likely that side that allowed VP to work with the likes of Queen, Judge, and the legend himself Gastino. VP is no better than them. Lilith initially shown testing out the Sea Beast, correcting its actions w/ Vega Force, showing off the bubble gun, wanting to go at it with the crew and CP0. In the covers while the Big 3 are excited about their weapons, VP is often not shown as excited with them. The Big 3's reaction to the GP flowers was another example.
Franky is more about creating a way to travel. The stairs, the ship, shark sub, his own legs, etc. Weaponizing them just help in getting to where you need to go. Usopp is cool w/ weapons too, but Lilith is the expert.
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Maybe the last member will be the character with an eye patch that Oda said would come into play in the final saga and would be extremely important
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I wonder if Elbaf also has the Gods of Earth, Rain and Forests like the Shandorans do.
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Maybe the last member will be the character with an eye patch that Oda said would come into play in the final saga and would be extremely important
I get the feeling Oda would win many over and push many feelings of “too late” aside if he made the 11th have relevant enough purpose.
For example, if he had Bonney turn out to have the purpose and dream of taking down the Celestial Dragons for what they did to Kuma, I feel many would be won over her as new Straw Hat for that.
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Looks like Yamato is going to be carrying Yasuie’s sword through Wano towns. I wonder if Yamato will end up taking up the sword.
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She thinks she's part of the crew
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It looks like Saul is at Elbaf, it doesn’t mean he’s definitely not the man with the burn scars but it does make it less likely seeing as how he’s not on a black boat sailing the ocean, again he could still be and just be stopped at Elbaf and will go back to sea later but I think it makes it less likely
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
It looks like Saul is at Elbaf, it doesn’t mean he’s definitely not the man with the burn scars but it does make it less likely seeing as how he’s not on a black boat sailing the ocean, again he could still be and just be stopped at Elbaf and will go back to sea later but I think it makes it less likely
Would he really be the sort of person to intentionally be able to sink ships for getting too close
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Officially back on Zou, glad to have confirmation.
Guess my year with this avatar has passed, but I'll probably keep it a little longer until Egghead's over. In any case, bye, Carrot.
Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?Dragalia Lost ID: 97617932505
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@Shift said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Officially back on Zou, glad to have confirmation.
Guess my year with this avatar has passed, but I'll probably keep it a little longer until Egghead's over. In any case, bye, Carrot.
Are people overexaggerating Carrot's situation to be worse than it actually is?
I do think it could have been explained better (one of multiple reasons I personally think Wano's ending is the worst One Piece arc ending). But that said, I don't think Carrot is feeling miserable on the inside or anything like that. I get the feeling she thought it over and felt that helping Zou's next generation towards the Dawn is what not only Pedro wanted, but also what she wants to do, even if she didn't realize it at first.
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The issue with Carrot was the same with Yamato. Given how much attention they got and their dynamic with the crew members they interacted with, it felt like they were being set-up to be a Straw Hat, but then Oda suddenly shifted and decided not to do it., But because he set them up to be important, he felt like he had to give them some kind of big ending, even if it felt rushed. Because Yamato was introduced later, his turnaround felt like a slap because it was so sudden. Carrot's was clearly more gradual but it was still awkwardly handled.
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I recommend watching the anime for the portion about Carrot becoming Zou's new duke. They fixed the scene as much as it was possible, at least it doesn't look like she was dragged to the position in complete disregard to her will and aspirations.
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Yeah, the anime did a better job of justifying it but Oda should've really done that himself. Between Carrot being denied the win against Perospero and the one page throw-away to explain why she can't join, it feels like Oda just lost interest in her or decided Yamato would be the replacement (before promptly denying him a space as well).
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It is not even a thing you have to read back. Oda just kept passing on SHs to have Yamato stay with and bounce back to Momo. Even I who felt Yamato would join, was proven wrong at every turn. Kaido is telling him that he is meant for Wano. He is training Momo. Telling the Beast Pirates to back down. Influenced by the Daimyo. DF is a guardian deity. So many things packed together.
I had to give up with the Aramaki stuff and call it. When Oda keeps throwing it in my face, I have to bow down.
With Carrot, it was less about the content given and more about the lack of content. When she is given leadership, she says yes as a jerk reaction. The writer right there is telling me, this is what it is. I felt no rush to say it was confirmed as a SH or not. Just needed a panel or cover of her not on some weird random boat escaping and Oda gave that. She is the ruler and it is simple as that.
I disagree that Oda wronged Carrot. To me it comes down to Pedro. Was Pedro meant to have his turn and being the leader of the Minks is bigger than what Pedro ever did. When needed, Carrot has went through enough to be the face when they help in the future.
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@black-leg-jex said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
The issue with Carrot was the same with Yamato. Given how much attention they got and their dynamic with the crew members they interacted with, it felt like they were being set-up to be a Straw Hat, but then Oda suddenly shifted and decided not to do it., But because he set them up to be important, he felt like he had to give them some kind of big ending, even if it felt rushed. Because Yamato was introduced later, his turnaround felt like a slap because it was so sudden. Carrot's was clearly more gradual but it was still awkwardly handled.
I honestly don't think who joins and who doesn't is entirely dependent on a character's first or second arcs, but can sometimes develop into a gradual process into several arcs.
There's the case of Robin who joined by the end of Alabasta, even though Vivi spent more time with the Straw Hats than Vivi. So do many people see the character of Robin as a slap in the face to Vivi fans? Somehow I don't think so, at least given what happened after Alabasta.
There's also of course Jinbe who go several moments with Luffy at Marineford and Fish-Man Island, yet still took several more arcs to join.
I dunno about Carrot, but considering how Oda still cares enough to give Yamato a cover story and Caribou is close to telling Blackbeard about Pluton being in Wano, I think it's within reason to claim that Oda isn't done with Yamato's story yet, and not as Momo's guard dog slave either.
In fact, given how Oda chose to have Yamato spend time mainly with Momo during Wano, and how Momo wants to see Yamato sail, I think it's also within reason to claim that Momo's development would help out with Yamato's as well.
And once again I'd like to give a friendly reminder that if Oda fails to properly follow through with all of that, then I'll admit my speculation was wrong. But as for now, I continue to look forward optimistically with what Oda is willing to give us in the future, as opposed to constantly harping over what he didn't do in the past, which some people are still doing.
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The thing with Yamato is they will eventually end up with the crew, but it doesn't have to be until the end of the story. And at that point it doesn't matter how big the crew is.
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@black-leg-jex said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
The thing with Yamato is they will eventually end up with the crew, but it doesn't have to be until the end of the story. And at that point it doesn't matter how big the crew is.
Agreed. I still remember when I held onto high spirits that Jinbe and Vivi would reunite with Luffy, despite whatever excuses others wanted to stack up against them. I just know Oda holds a sentiment to those who want to reunite with Luffy one day, and I felt I was proven true on this when he fulfilled Jinbe reuniting with Luffy. He also still seems on track in reuniting Vivi with Luffy, possibly to join the crew full time after all. So all that is why I still hold Yamato’s words of still wanting to be with the crew close to me, because I know Jinbe and Vivi wanted the same things and see no good reason to deny them that.
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Let’s see how this new cover story ends, maybe Yamato joining the Straw Hats isn’t so crazy
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Let’s see how this new cover story ends, maybe Yamato joining the Straw Hats isn’t so crazy
It could end as a hint with Blackbeard coming to Wano after Caribou tells him Pluton is there. But until then, looking ahead with what Oda is currently doing, Kinemon just had a sword for Yamato to deliver. It could easily turn out to just be a delivery, but considering Yamato Takeru’s story of being a swordsman and Yamato’s concept art showing her as a swordsman, I think it could be reasonable to suggest that Yamato might end up taking up the sword as her own, since Oden himself was a swordsman.
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Let’s see how this new cover story ends, maybe Yamato joining the Straw Hats isn’t so crazy
It could end as a hint with Blackbeard coming to Wano after Caribou tells him Pluton is there. But until then, looking ahead with what Oda is currently doing, Kinemon just have a sword for Yamato to deliver. It could easily turn out to just be a delivery, but considering Yamato Takeru’s story of being a swordsman and Yamato’s concept art showing her as a swordsman, I think it could be reasonable to suggest that Yamato might end up taking up the sword as her own, since Oden himself was a swordsman.
Black Beard invading is the most plausible reason I can think of for Yamato leaving Wano to find Luff
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Most of this cover story is just going to be Oda showing us what has happened in Wano after Kaido's defeat (like who the new Daimyo's are and what all the scabbards and gifters are up to). The only thing that might affect Yamato's chances of joining is how close Oda wants to keep to Oden's journey - will Yamato pick up his own followers from ex-beast pirates on his journey?
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For now, I just see Yamato embracing more of the samurai ways. How would he go from that to Egghead or wherever the crew go next sounds like a big stretch.
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@black-leg-jex said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Most of this cover story is just going to be Oda showing us what has happened in Wano after Kaido's defeat (like who the new Daimyo's are and what all the scabbards and gifters are up to). The only thing that might affect Yamato's chances of joining is how close Oda wants to keep to Oden's journey - will Yamato pick up his own followers from ex-beast pirates on his journey?
I looked up what pilgrimages are and came across this:
“This pilgrimage provides the an opportunity to reflect on one's life and to change for the better.
People’s motives for making this pilgrimage are varied. For example, some come for religious reasons, some to pray for healing or safety in the home, or some in memory of those who have passed away. In addition, some come just to get away from regular life, some for recreation, or some to spend time alone in reflection and to find oneself. For people today, it is being re-discovered as a healing journey.” - https://shikoku-tourism.com/en/shikoku-henro/shikoku-henroSo I wouldn’t think it wouldn’t just be some generic update of what other characters are doing, but possibly focus in giving more depth to Yamato herself in discovering herself more and better understanding what she really wants out of life now that she has the freedom she craved for so long.
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Regarding Carrot again, what’s to be said about Oda’s choice to have her in Zou in light of what Pedro said about the Dawn?
I ask this because I’m told that Carrot was meant to be a Straw Hat so she could fulfill the Dawn, but since she’s not, is Oda to be labeled a bad writer for this?
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If Smoker ever did join the Straw Hats I would guess his Black Beard opponent would be Aokiji right?
I don’t think he’s joining just to be clear, I’m just bored
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Regarding Carrot again, what’s to be said about Oda’s choice to have her in Zou in light of what Pedro said about the Dawn?
I ask this because I’m told that Carrot was meant to be a Straw Hat so she could fulfill the Dawn, but since she’s not, is Oda to be labeled a bad writer for this?
I don’t want to sound like a broken record here but I’d much rather have Pekoms on the team if we needed a mink on the crew
His character design is much much better and I like his turtle Zoan powers
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@Shiebs There is something inherently funny and intertaining about an animal-person that turns into another animal.
I remember laughing in awe when first see Pekoms and wonder if he's a lion zoan and then he turns into a tortoise.
Btw, do you guys think minks can use their DF powers under the full moon? How crazy would that transformation be.
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@FolhaS
I'd say yes, if Pekoms could control his Sulong form, he would be the only mink we know of who ate a zoan devilfruit, but I am not sure if he still has his eyes.
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Regarding Carrot again, what’s to be said about Oda’s choice to have her in Zou in light of what Pedro said about the Dawn?
I ask this because I’m told that Carrot was meant to be a Straw Hat so she could fulfill the Dawn, but since she’s not, is Oda to be labeled a bad writer for this?
I don’t want to sound like a broken record here but I’d much rather have Pekoms on the team if we needed a mink on the crew
His character design is much much better and I like his turtle Zoan powers
Pekoms doesn’t seem to have a purpose with the crew that I can think of. In my view, it’s not just about filling out checklists for more minks or recruiting people like they’re weapon add-ons.
Ultimately, I think recruitment is about how it benefits the story and its main characters, and the less Pekoms adds to that, then perhaps the better off he is elsewhere.
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@Cockycent said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
For now, I just see Yamato embracing more of the samurai ways. How would he go from that to Egghead or wherever the crew go next sounds like a big stretch.
Crew got sidetracked by Punk Hazard and are almsot certainly going to Elbaf next.
Elbaf is still a straight log-pose away from Wano, AND Yamato has Luffy's vivre card.
At this particular point It shouldn't be that big a deal to travel in a straight line for a day or two to catch up.
If they don't rejoin before the end of Elbaf then it gets harder.
