@The-Light-of-Shandora Anyone's death that is close to you makes you contemplate life choices you made, regardless of why someone died and can be a trigger for change.
The fact that Oda took 3 weeks off only shows as much.
I'd be perfectly okay if Oda would take more breaks if it would improve his health and his work.
Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield
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Speaking of bad injuries, arc stakes and strawhat involvement, I've come to hope for at least one of these two things to happen regarding Elbaf: one of the SH being seriously injured/in danger coming out of Egghead,and/or Luffy sitting the arc out.
I don't care if an x% of the crew is given something to do or someone to beat up to cover page space, I want them to matter, the story was supposed to be about them, not featuring them in the medium-to-back- ground. If 10 people is too much to juggle, fine, let's keep one of two of them out of the picture, but then have the others to something about or because of that. We had the main cast running errands for others since the 2 year timeskip, passively going along whatever tantrum the arc princess was wailing about, I think we can stomach them actually act at least once again before the curtain falls.
One of them being in actual danger is a maybe drastic but certainly effective call to action.And I'm sorry, but as long as we have omnipotent bugs bunny jesus along,.wiping the floor with the top honchos of the world power scaling without breaking a sweat, no matter how visually entertaining his powers are (a lot, by the way), it's just boring. Either put a cap on G5 availability, or remove Nika from the picture untill the final confrontation.
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@Alfiere said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
One of them being in actual danger is a maybe drastic but certainly effective call to action.
Those moments still exist. Usopp and Franky were petrified not too long ago.
Like, yeah, it was undone, but that was thanks to Luffy and not some secret Mink-made cure from nowhere.
Secondary characters haven't really been at the forefront in Egghead. The VPs are more like literal exposition machines, with one trying to be an antagonist but getting forgotten anyway.
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We also got Robin who is injured, first Wano and now Egghead, maybe she will take a while to recover.
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@The-Light-of-Shandora yes of course, and it's going to be Chopper. So much relevant action these two normally see in your average post-timeskip arc, I will sorely miss it.
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If her injuries last for a while, maybe Oda won't have to waste panel space with her for the duration of the affliction.
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@Alfiere said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Speaking of bad injuries, arc stakes and strawhat involvement, I've come to hope for at least one of these two things to happen regarding Elbaf: one of the SH being seriously injured/in danger coming out of Egghead,and/or Luffy sitting the arc out.
Oda could have sidelined Zoro after Wano due to his double-damage injuries and side effect of his miracle cure drug and being near death, the same way he did after Mihawk and Kuma, and chose not to.
If he didn't take the opportunity, then he's not going to now for a full blown Emperor crew entering the final endgame of the series.
As is that may be why Yamato stayed behind, to have one less powerhouse to juggle and give Jinbe more "new to the crew" time.
Like what we have left is probably Elbaf and then onto Laugh Tale and the grand finale. There's the possibility of a surprise location we know nothing of sure, but Oda's gunning for the end, mucking the crew now isn't likely to happen.
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Robin is reuniting with Saul, no way she's gonna be a bystander in Elbaf ESPECIALLY when she sat out most if not all of Egghead already.
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Some people seem to think Saul is the man with the burn scar for some reason
I hope that’s not the case
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@Shiebs It became a reasonable assumption when we learned Saul had become a scholar covered in bandages.
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@Deicide said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@Shiebs It became a reasonable assumption when we learned Saul had become a scholar covered in bandages.
And Shiryu also said it was a marine, although Saul is technically a former marine
And they showed a panel of Robin right after Kidd told about the character
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@Shiebs We don't know anything about the "Man Marked by Flames" except hearsay. Shiryu's theory is just his own musings, not some defined fact.
Saul is right now the best candidate to be the man. Studied the true history for 22 years? Check. Is marked by flames? Check. Sailing in a black ship? Well, there's nothing saying he couldn't.
It may not be him, of course. Could be an entirely new character. But among known characters, he's the best guess.
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@Deicide said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@Shiebs We don't know anything about the "Man Marked by Flames" except hearsay. Shiryu's theory is just his own musings, not some defined fact.
Saul is right now the best candidate to be the man. Studied the true history for 22 years? Check. Is marked by flames? Check. Sailing in a black ship? Well, there's nothing saying he couldn't.
It may not be him, of course. Could be an entirely new character. But among known characters, he's the best guess.
I really hope it’s a new character but I think it might be him
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@Shiebs said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Some people seem to think Saul is the man with the burn scar for some reason
I hope that’s not the case
That would assume that Saul rides in a black ship creating whirlpools around him then.
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@Robby said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@Alfiere said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Speaking of bad injuries, arc stakes and strawhat involvement, I've come to hope for at least one of these two things to happen regarding Elbaf: one of the SH being seriously injured/in danger coming out of Egghead,and/or Luffy sitting the arc out.
As is that may be why Yamato stayed behind, to have one less powerhouse to juggle and give Jinbe more "new to the crew" time.
Oda pretty much confirmed this is bullcrap since Oda had no prob bringing all THESE guys up!
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@Robby said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Oda pretty much confirmed this is bullcrap since Oda had no prob bringing all THESE guys up!Sure, but up until the moment they showed up, it was what, Lucchi? Who Luffy dominated against, and Zoro is an even match for and I guess Jinbe. Throw in Yamato as well and suddenly Oda would need enough powerhouses to deal with everyone so the first 30 chapters would have been... dominated by the crew. Even with all the Warlord clones who were a threat for like... one chapter. Especially with the ping pong of all the Kumas and who is controlling them.
Even Kizaru showing up hasn't been a huge threat to the crew, even though he was effective in dealing with Vegapunk. Wasn't until the elders showed up that there was any actual danger.
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@Robby said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@electricmastro said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@Robby said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Oda pretty much confirmed this is bullcrap since Oda had no prob bringing all THESE guys up!Sure, but up until the moment they showed up, it was what, Lucchi? Who Luffy dominated against, and Zoro is an even match for and I guess Jinbe. Throw in Yamato as well and suddenly Oda would need enough powerhouses to deal with everyone so the first 30 chapters would have been... dominated by the crew. Even with all the Warlord clones who were a threat for like... one chapter. Especially with the ping pong of all the Kumas and who is controlling them.
Even Kizaru showing up hasn't been a huge threat to the crew, even though he was effective in dealing with Vegapunk. Wasn't until the elders showed up that there was any actual danger.
Well Oda bringing Yamato back at a later point should be met with less worry at that point, considering how he had no hesitation to bring in five mythical Zoan Elders into the fray, who are sure to be a threat later on, in addition to Garling and Imu.
And since Wano seems set up to be visited by the Blackbeard Pirates after Caribou tells them Pluton's location, it seems inevitable Yamato herself will get into some trouble the Straw Hats will have to help her out of, regardless of her powerhouse history, since Blackbeard, Kuzan, Shiryu, Burgess, Wolf, and the others together would prove to be a pretty troublesome combination.
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Meh i see no problem the crew dom8nating match ups untill the final struggle. Its not enjoyment always looking them struggle + they are a yonkou crew
Remember Luffy one shoting Bellamy. Now that was fun
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@blue-san said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Meh i see no problem the crew dom8nating match ups untill the final struggle. Its not enjoyment always looking them struggle + they are a yonkou crew
"Yonko crew" is a deceptive dismissal. It's not like Usopp, Nami, Chopper, or Franky are on that level in which they don't need to struggle... Also, no one besides Luffy himself is that overpowered. It's bizarre how Luffy only relies on the crew for menial labors nowadays.
@blue-san said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Remember Luffy one shoting Bellamy. Now that was fun
It wasn't a 60-chapter 2-year-long arc with huge implications, thought. "Easy" challenges have their place in the story, but Egghead isn't it.
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@blue-san said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Meh i see no problem the crew dom8nating match ups untill the final struggle. Its not enjoyment always looking them struggle + they are a yonkou crew.
Most of the crew doesn't even have Haki, and only Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe are in a level to fight most of the other major antagonists. Nothing wrong with that since it's how most Emperor crews operate anyway.
I think Oda does right to hold back the crew, especially since there's an inevitable confrontation with the BB pirates who by themselves aren't invincible. Some have outright lost to other monsters like Sabo, Garp or Hancock.
I think only Shanks currently has a crew where all the officer members are major powerhouses, and that's because that fact was already established beforehand, when Brannew called them the most balanced crew.
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@blue-san said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Meh i see no problem the crew dom8nating match ups untill the final struggle. Its not enjoyment always looking them struggle + they are a yonkou crew
Remember Luffy one shoting Bellamy. Now that was fun
Yep, makes me glad Oda presented the Super Mythical Elders the way he did, because now anyone who talks about the Straw Hats being too overpowered has to answer up to them now.
And if that’s not enough, there’s also the possibility of the Warrior Gods summoning Garling, or even Imu, if necessary.
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Maybe others have already mentioned it, but the Gorosei's circles give me a feeling of limitations. Like there is some limit to either them being around the "Earth" or their abilities in general.
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@Cockycent In some stories, demons to have such limits. I had not thought of that possibility. Could they be banished?
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Oda might be having Vegapunk voice his message now in order to get the world riled up against the Government.
Vegapunk prob won’t talk much about Joy Boy or the Will of D., since we can learn all about that at Laugh Tale. But that he might be mainly focusing on the Kingdom, its ideals, and why the Government wiped them out.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@Shiebs said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Some people seem to think Saul is the man with the burn scar for some reason
I hope that’s not the case
That would assume that Saul rides in a black ship creating whirlpools around him then.
True, I don’t know how he could make the whirlpools happen
I’m honestly hoping it’s not him though
Maybe he’s at Elbaf instead
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Maybe the burn scar guy is whoever leads CP0?
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Maybe someone can help me. I feel like I remember a panel of a monster or some shadowed figure attacking a country with a framing that's similar to the panel of the giant robot attacking Marijoas. Does this panel exist or am I making this up?
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@andre said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Maybe someone can help me. I feel like I remember a panel of a monster or some shadowed figure attacking a country with a framing that's similar to the panel of the giant robot attacking Marijoas. Does this panel exist or am I making this up?
Maybe Apoo talking about the Numbers on chapter 991
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@access-timeco said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@andre said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Maybe someone can help me. I feel like I remember a panel of a monster or some shadowed figure attacking a country with a framing that's similar to the panel of the giant robot attacking Marijoas. Does this panel exist or am I making this up?
Maybe Apoo talking about the Numbers on chapter 991
Appreciate it, but I don't think that's it.
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@Deicide Maybe they took something that they didn't fully understand, so their use of it is limited.
Or maybe Imu blesses them with some lesser form of his abilities.
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@andre said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Maybe someone can help me. I feel like I remember a panel of a monster or some shadowed figure attacking a country with a framing that's similar to the panel of the giant robot attacking Marijoas. Does this panel exist or am I making this up?
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@King-Cannon said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@andre said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Maybe someone can help me. I feel like I remember a panel of a monster or some shadowed figure attacking a country with a framing that's similar to the panel of the giant robot attacking Marijoas. Does this panel exist or am I making this up?
That's definitely it! Thanks!
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Pretty sure Oda will be delving into the Numbers’ history more at Elbaf, since they are Ancient Giant clones.
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Perfect time to start rereading the arc. This will be my 3rd reread and so much pops out every time. Something about the Cross Guild content leaves me anxious tho.
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Another question
Do we expect the next chapter to have some sort of Dragonball homage color spread?
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@Shiebs said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Another question
Do we expect the next chapter to have some sort of Dragonball homage color spread?
Prob not if the chapters are drawn that far ahead and not to have two color spreads in a row, unless Oda is really keen on it.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@Shiebs said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Another question
Do we expect the next chapter to have some sort of Dragonball homage color spread?
Prob not if the chapters are drawn that far ahead and not to have two color spreads in a row, unless Oda is really keen on it.
That’s fine by me to be honest I’m very very interested in Yamato’s cover story and where it leads
Usually I love color spreads but right now I just want to see the cover story
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@Shiebs said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@electricmastro said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
@Shiebs said in Chapter 1111: Sun-Shield:
Another question
Do we expect the next chapter to have some sort of Dragonball homage color spread?
Prob not if the chapters are drawn that far ahead and not to have two color spreads in a row, unless Oda is really keen on it.
That’s fine by me to be honest I’m very very interested in Yamato’s cover story and where it leads
Usually I love color spreads but right now I just want to see the cover story
I’m pretty interested too, since Yamato might be on a journey of self-discovery and further develop her character before she reunites with Luffy again, as that’s what pilgrimages can typically involve, in addition to the Blackbeard Pirates potentially being near Wano by the end of the cover story.
That said, I’m willing to be patient so that Oda can pay his respects with a Toriyama color spread tribute if he so wishes.
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I still believe she may be on the way.
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