Oof. I guess Oda made them two pixels too wide or something. Or it was a printing issue.
Volume 101 Predictions/Discussion
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Oof. I guess Oda made them two pixels too wide or something. Or it was a printing issue.
You are here for 12 years and you dont get its to separate each of volume cover? As simple as that
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It used to be fun when I had to wait for the cover.
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You are here for 12 years and you dont get its to separate each of volume cover? As simple as that
Why would the former correlate to the lattr? It's not like we've had an extended cover in this way before. Sure that might be the reason but like it was said, that means if you put the covers together they don't align, which is silly.
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Why would the former correlate to the lattr? It's not like we've had an extended cover in this way before. Sure that might be the reason but like it was said, that means if you put the covers together they don't align, which is silly.
Well people need to see 3 separate postars to know its not another big new poster for One Piece but covers of volumes put one next to the other. Not understanding this choice from OP marketing team is silly..
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Well people need to see 3 separate postars to know its not another big new poster for One Piece but covers of volumes put one next to the other. Not understanding this choice from OP marketing team is silly..
I think you've misunderstood. The implication from the original poster is that the volume covers also don't align correctly. If the gap is just there for the posters sake then that's fine but if the three volume covers don't actually line up then that's bad imo.
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https://claystage.com/one-piece-chapter-release-schedule-for-2021
Interesting, if volume 102 has 10 chapters it will end in chapter 1036 (1027-1036) which will be the first chapter of 2022 in the official release.
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That makes sense. I felt that by the end of 102 both Queen and King will be defeated so that 103 can focus all on Kaidou, and at the pace these fights are going King will probably go down in 1035 or 1036 (while Queen is 1032).
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Connected Cover !
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Finally, the reveal is getting close. Interesting that Oda was considering red chest scales for hybrid Kaido - just like his tattoo - only for them not to make the completed version.
I also liked this evidently scrapped idea with the logos all linking up. That would have been cool
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E.Oda wanting Jinbe on 101 but Franky and Jinbe together was way too much space.
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Volumen 101 final cover!! Tittle is “The Stars Take the Stage”.
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HQ versión.
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Is it confirmed Vol. 101 has 11 chapters? 1016 to 1026?
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I have an intense itch to flip that cover. Looks much more balanced. I love the colours of this one, Kaido's scales are gorgeous, but unlike the other two you can feel it's lacking something on its own.
Glad to finally see the whole thing too, it's amazing how far the series has come, I love it!
But please, please, please, i hope that colour gradient mis-match between 99 and 100 isn't that obvious in the physical release. PLEASE. It's gonna drive me insane.
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Hooray! It's finally complete! So gratifying to be able to look at the full image after all this time. I'll repeat myself from the earlier glimpses we had of it, but I really like how hybrid Kaido looks here. He can be hit and miss, but this is an absolute hit, and the purple tips are neat.
That said, this last one is probably the weakest individual part of the set. There's a lot of weirdly empty space on the right side, to the point where it almost feels like there must be a character missing. I'm also going to be glad to be able to make real predictions for the new volumes next year. I've really missed that through the three-parter saga.
Is it confirmed Vol. 101 has 11 chapters? 1016 to 1026?
Yeah, the pagecount confirms it, no other amount of chapters would fit, unless there's a literally unheard of amount of extra material.
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Hope I can get the taller image to fit into signature restrictions...
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That image of all the covers is just amazing. It looks so good!
And fun little detail I noticed, Brook's hat is almost the same colour and shape as Kaido's nails so Oda had the nail behind the hat faded. Which results in the hat at once being a hat but also sort of a stand-in for the nail. Neat!
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That said, this last one is probably the weakest individual part of the set. There's a lot of weirdly empty space on the right side, to the point where it almost feels like there must be a character missing. I'm also going to be glad to be able to make real predictions for the new volumes next year. I've really missed that through the three-parter saga.
Any feelings yet on what the next volume is gonna look like?
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Hooray! It's finally complete! So gratifying to be able to look at the full image after all this time. I'll repeat myself from the earlier glimpses we had of it, but I really like how hybrid Kaido looks here. He can be hit and miss, but this is an absolute hit, and the purple tips are neat.
That said, this last one is probably the weakest individual part of the set. There's a lot of weirdly empty space on the right side, to the point where it almost feels like there must be a character missing. I'm also going to be glad to be able to make real predictions for the new volumes next year. I've really missed that through the three-parter saga.
Yeah, the pagecount confirms it, no other amount of chapters would fit, unless there's a literally unheard of amount of extra material.
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All covers! Now in a 7x15 format, which keeps all the two and three part sets together.
Hope I can get the taller image to fit into signature restrictions...
[qimg]https://i.redd.it/bpokjmxzj4181.jpg[/qimg]Your VivreCard archive is not updated with Beast Pirates?
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@Zar:
And fun little detail I noticed, Brook's hat is almost the same colour and shape as Kaido's nails so Oda had the nail behind the hat faded. Which results in the hat at once being a hat but also sort of a stand-in for the nail. Neat!
Any feelings yet on what the next volume is gonna look like?
I completely assumed the hat was the nail until I read your comment. It's even got the same highlight running down it and everything. Good catch!
For volume 102, I would love to see Kaido and Momo's dragon forms all tangled up together. Technically that's a scene from the end of 101, but I think it's iconic and important enough to reference for 102 anyway. I still also want to see the skull dome featuring as a backdrop behind the title, especially now that the island's flying, but I've been trying to will that one into existence since volume 97. The rest depends on which fights actually wrap up in the back half of the volume. There's still at least four chapters to go and half a dozen plot threads that could be tied off in one or two chapters, so probably too soon to call.
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@$;4159800']Your VivreCard archive is not updated with Beast Pirates?
Not yet, no. Since they made the official website for the cards with all the numbers and portraits in a sortable spreadsheet, my archive started feeling mildly redundant. I want to get it up to date eventually, but it's ended up being a low priority because of that.
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I completely assumed the hat was the nail until I read your comment. It's even got the same highlight running down it and everything. Good catch!
For volume 102, I would love to see Kaido and Momo's dragon forms all tangled up together. Technically that's a scene from the end of 101, but I think it's iconic and important enough to reference for 102 anyway. I still also want to see the skull dome featuring as a backdrop behind the title, especially now that the island's flying, but I've been trying to will that one into existence since volume 97. The rest depends on which fights actually wrap up in the back half of the volume. There's still at least four chapters to go and half a dozen plot threads that could be tied off in one or two chapters, so probably too soon to call.
Not yet, no. Since they made the official website for the cards with all the numbers and portraits in a sortable spreadsheet, my archive started feeling mildly redundant. I want to get it up to date eventually, but it's ended up being a low priority because of that.
Not at all redundant. They have a separate fan base. Your archives are one of the main reasons, people who rarely post like me, visit this site.
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@$;4159808']Not at all redundant. They have a separate fan base. Your archives are one of the main reasons, people who rarely post like me, visit this site.
I really appreciate that. I'll keep trying to get up to date, but with four packs I mostly haven't touched yet it's not going to happen overnight. Keep an eye on the Vivre Card thread!
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I really appreciate that. I'll keep trying to get up to date, but with four packs I mostly haven't touched yet it's not going to happen overnight. Keep an eye on the Vivre Card thread!
thank you very much
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That said, this last one is probably the weakest individual part of the set. There's a lot of weirdly empty space on the right side, to the point where it almost feels like there must be a character missing. I'm also going to be glad to be able to make real predictions for the new volumes next year. I've really missed that through the three-parter saga.
If I remember right, I think in the first sketch Oda did Tama was also on the cover with the Straw Hats but he got rid of her, presumably to just keep it as Straw Hats only. So that might be one reason why it looks a little empty.
I'm also happy to go back to speculating on volume covers. I'm going to guess that volume 102 will have Momo and Kaidou both in dragon form and then at least Luffy and Yamato as well (although getting Sanji and Queen and Zoro and King as well would be great).
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If I remember right, I think in the first sketch Oda did Tama was also on the cover with the Straw Hats but he got rid of her, presumably to just keep it as Straw Hats only. So that might be one reason why it looks a little empty.
I'm also happy to go back to speculating on volume covers. I'm going to guess that volume 102 will have Momo and Kaidou both in dragon form and then at least Luffy and Yamato as well (although getting Sanji and Queen and Zoro and King as well would be great).
What are you talking about? I NEED TO KNOW RIGHT NOW!!!!!
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What are you talking about? I NEED TO KNOW RIGHT NOW!!!!!
I think he's referring to the super fast Oda sketch of the volume covers.
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wondering if he means this one:
https://imgur.com/pKMueBMkind of looks like komachiyo with tama, usopp and nami on his back.
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@Zar:
But please, please, please, i hope that colour gradient mis-match between 99 and 100 isn't that obvious in the physical release. PLEASE. It's gonna drive me insane.
Thats just a side effect of converting RGB to CMYK(and vice versa), and doing it on separate files. Other stuff like the flames aren't quite matching up either.
Assuming the actual master file was scanned and converted all at the same time it should be fine. Its just making mockups for ads and things its being converted and adjusted thats causing the wonkiness.
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It's a great cover that feels a little lop-sided on its own. The final full-connected covers are wonderful.
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One thing I love is how the characters in this cover, except maybe Ace and Yamato, have been planned by Oda to exist since the start of serialization. He knew who the 10 strawhats would be and he knew thyere would be a fight against the four emperors. This cover is the image of the main conflict of One Piece unfolding before our eyes, after two decades of set up.
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Well if Yamato is a SH, then maybe she was planned as well as one of the ten members.
Ace was probably planned as well.
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What are you talking about? I NEED TO KNOW RIGHT NOW!!!!!
I'm pretty sure it was in one of those Twitter videos where they show the quick sketch. I think it was in one of the very first ones back when volume 99 was announced and they gave us a tease of all 3.
EDIT: Now that I'm looking back at the old thread I think it may have been people speculating whemn looking at the rough sketches and trying to figure out what's next to Frnaky. Some people said O-Tama, some people said it could be Brook or someone else. So I guess I misrememberd. Sorry.
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Well if Yamato is a SH, then maybe she was planned as well as one of the ten members.
Ace was probably planned as well.
Greg has implied that he knows from word-of-Oda that the Straw Hats as we see them in episode 1000 (don't feel like looking up the chapter) are as they were originally intended to be as a completed crew.
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Greg has implied that he knows from word-of-Oda that the Straw Hats as we see them in episode 1000 (don't feel like looking up the chapter) are as they were originally intended to be as a completed crew.
This, plus the concept sketches for Yamato on her Vivre Card seem to more closely resemble Oda's modern art style. They don't look like early One Piece sketches. If Yamato were planned more than 20 years ago, I don't think her design would have been so far from finalized until semi-recently. Which doesn't say anything about joining or not joining.
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@Vongola_Boss_XI:
This, plus the concept sketches for Yamato on her Vivre Card seem to more closely resemble Oda's modern art style. They don't look like early One Piece sketches. If Yamato were planned more than 20 years ago, I don't think her design would have been so far from finalized until semi-recently. Which doesn't say anything about joining or not joining.
To be fair, Oda and the staff are probably smarter than that and wouldnt include 20 year old sketches in her vivre card.
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Greg has implied that he knows from word-of-Oda that the Straw Hats as we see them in episode 1000 (don't feel like looking up the chapter) are as they were originally intended to be as a completed crew.
Sorry to ask, but can you link that? I tried his twitter but found nothing of the sort.
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Monkey D. Luffy32
Roronoa Zoro29
Usopp (3 as Sogeking)28
Nami (1 inside Franky’s body), Sanji (1 inside Nami’s body), Tony Tony Chopper (1 inside Sanji’s body)18
Nico Robin16
Franky (1 inside Chopper’s body) +1 inside General Franky14
Brook9
Trafalgar Law7
Nefertari Vivi, Jinbe6
Portgas D. Ace5
Buggy, Smoker (1 inside Tashigi’s body), Shanks, Marshall D. Teach, Rob Lucci, Rebecca, Kyros (3 as Toy Soldier, 1 as a statue), Leo, Big Mom4
Carue, Edward Newgate, Eustass Kid, Sabo, Caesar Clown, Momonosuke, Donquixote Doflamingo, Cavendish, Bartolomeo, Carrot, Napoleon, Kaido3
Nefertari Cobra, Crocodile, Kaku, Kalifa, Monkey D. Garp, Capone Bege, Silvers Rayleigh, Shirahoshi, Tashigi (1 inside Smoker’s body), Pekoms, Sai, Kabu, Pica, Fujitora, Mansherry, Kinemon, Pedro, Chiffon2
Going Merry, Mr. 3, Wapol, Matsuge, Kohza, Mr. 1, Mr. 2, Bellamy, Nola, Montblanc Noland (1 as a statue), Iceburg, Blueno, Hattori, Gecko Moria, Lola, Bartholomew Kuma, X Drake, Jewelry Bonney, Basil Hawkins, Scratchman Apoo, Marco, Jozu, Izo, Akainu, Sengoku, General Franky, Baron Tamago, Baby 5, Buffalo, Chinjao, Elizabello II, Wicca, Bomba, Sugar, Trebol, Señor Pink, Koala, Ideo, Orlumbus, Hajrudin, Nekmomamushi, Inuarashi, Brûlée, Perospero, Mont-d’Or, Reiju, Zeus, Prometheus, Pudding, Katakuri, Tama, Toko, Hiyori, Hyogoro, Kawamatsu, O-Kiku, Raizo, Yamato1
Mohji, Cabaji, Kuro, Jango, Sham, Buchi, Kaya, Piiman, Ninjin, Tamanegi, Don Krieg, Gin, Pearl, Arlong, Kuroobi, Hatchan, Chew, Momoo, Igaram, Mr. 5, Miss Valentine, Miss Monday, Mr. 9, Mr. 13, Miss Friday, Miss Valentine, Dorry, Brogy, Hiluluk, Kuromarimo, Chess, Pell, Chaka, Miss Doublefinger, Mr. 4, Miss Merry Christmas, Lassoo, Masira, Shoujou, Sengoku’s Goat, the mine foreman Buggy met, Ohm, Gedatsu, Shura, Satori, Wiper, Raky, Braham, Kamakiri, Genbo, Conis, Aisa, Gan Fall, Pierre, Su, Enel, Kalgara, Southbird, Foxy, Porche, Hamburg, Pickles, Big Pan, Capote, Monda, Itomimizu, Chuchun, Paulie, Yagara Bull, Tyrannosaurus, Mozu, Kiwi, Kokoro, Chimney, Gonbe, Sodom, Gomorrah, T-Bone, Wanze, Nero, Oimo, Kashii, Baskerville, Nico Olvia, Jaguar D. Saul, Spandam, Jabra, Kumadori, Fukurou, Funkfreed, Koby, Helmeppo, Hogback, Cindry, Perona, Absalom, Kumashi, Oars, Killer, Urouge, Boa Hancock, Boa Sandersonia, Boa Marigold, Salome, Bacura, Marigold’s Hawk, Snake Weapons, Magellan, Hannyabal, Sadi, Saldeath, Minotaurus, Blugori, Minokoala, Minorhinoceros, Minozebra, Emporio Ivankov, Inazuma, Vista, Blamenco, Rakuyo, Namur, Curiel, Kingdew, Haruta, Atmos, Speed Jiru, Fossa, Kizaru, Aokiji, Monkey D. Dragon, Makino, Curly Dadan, Thousand Sunny, Camie, Pappag, Surume, Neptune, Ichika, Nika, Sanka, Yonka, Yonka Two, Mero, Ishilly, Hiramera, Megalo, Otohime, Fisher Tiger, Fukaboshi, Hody Jones, Dosun, Zeo, Daruma, Ikaros, Hyouzou, Vander Decken IX, Wadatsumi, Mocha, Doran, Sind, Uzu, Boo, Jesus Burgess, Suleiman, Dagama, Flapper, Riku Doldo III, 2 of Señor Pink’s groupies, Violet, Farul, Kanjuro, Diamante, Giolla, Dellinger, Lao G, Gladius, Machvise, Bian, Inhel, Chao, Rampo, Gatz, Tsuru, Weevil, Miss Bakkin, Wanda, Shishilian, Giovanni, Yomo, Blackback, Roddy, Praline, Cracker, Opera, various Homies, Judge, Ichiji, Yonji, Niji, Vito, Gotti, Capone Pez, Daifuku, Oven, Compote, Smoothie, Galette, Streusen, Queen, Shimotsuki Yasuie, Kozuki Oden, Gol D. Roger, Sasaki, Black Maria, Who’s Who, Page One, Ulti, Denjiro, Ashura Doji, Yokai Homies -
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One Piece Volume 101 obi reveals that it surpassed 3 million copies in its 1st edition. So we have now 45 consecutive Volumes that surpassed 3 million copies in the 1st edition (from Volume 57 to Volume 101).
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Apparently coming as a poster in One Piece Magazine vol 13
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One Piece Volume 101 obi reveals that it surpassed 3 million copies in its 1st edition. So we have now 45 consecutive Volumes that surpassed 3 million copies in the 1st edition (from Volume 57 to Volume 101).
Fascinating. Especially due to how Demon Slayer and occasionally Attack on Titan would usurp yearly or quarterly sales, there's been some talk or mood around here as if OP had been seriously declining in sales. Like, there has a relative dip since the absurd highs where through the 60's and early 70 volumes we had 4 million initial print runs & near constant record breaking in the early 2010's. But 3 million consistently for 45 volumes? That's a real decade of stability. Crazy stability in fact.
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Fascinating. Especially due to how Demon Slayer and occasionally Attack on Titan would usurp yearly or quarterly sales, there's been some talk or mood around here as if OP had been seriously declining in sales. Like, there has a relative dip since the absurd highs where through the 60's and early 70 volumes we had 4 million initial print runs & near constant record breaking in the early 2010's. But 3 million consistently for 45 volumes? That's a real decade of stability. Crazy stability in fact.
I mean, weren’t there less volumes in 2020 due to things like covid for example?
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Fascinating. Especially due to how Demon Slayer and occasionally Attack on Titan would usurp yearly or quarterly sales, there's been some talk or mood around here as if OP had been seriously declining in sales. Like, there has a relative dip since the absurd highs where through the 60's and early 70 volumes we had 4 million initial print runs & near constant record breaking in the early 2010's. But 3 million consistently for 45 volumes? That's a real decade of stability. Crazy stability in fact.
It has. Which is absolutely normal for a 3-digit volume series at this point, but you can chart the actual sales tracked and see that it's a consistently decline for many years. Again, not to say anything bad about the series, it has actually held incredibly well for how long it is and how hard it is to get new readers. But that just how it is. The highest selling volume in 2017 sold 2,730,184 copies, the highest selling volume in 2018 sold 2,476,305 copies, the highest selling volume in 2019 sold 2,388,423 copies and the highest selling volume in 2020 sold 2,054,642. The 2021 numbers should come out this week, actually (Oricon works from november to november), but it's probably not going to even reach 2 million.
The first print does not tell the whole story, the sales have seriously declined, but that's not really cause for worry.
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I wonder how much money Oda makes per volume sale.
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I wonder how much money Oda makes per volume sale.
Last time I checked, maybe three years ago, he mad US$26M per year in total royalties.
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Yeah, given how cheap the volumes are, the per-book earnings would be a relative pittance. Royalties on merch, on the other hand…
I don't think there's anything to worry about on sales - it's still doing numbers most authors could only dream of. The difference between One Piece and the Kimetsus and Jujutsus that are topping the charts now in terms of overall sales is that they're new series and their millions are spread fairly evenly across 20 or so volumes by people who are just finding them and catching up. Meanwhile everyone knows what One Piece is. No one's discovering the series for the first time, and if they are, the hundreds of millions of copies in circulation would make for a robust second-hand market. Basically all of One Piece's sales are coming from the year's new volumes, and we're on a second year in a row of only three dropping in the December - November sales year. Considering OP is batting 25% down from a normal year, it's still doing incredibly well for itself.
What's interesting is how Shueisha really seems to have worked out a formula for these recent hits, letting the series reach about a dozen volumes before hitting the marketing button hard with a high-budget anime and subsequent movie, followed by the series moving towards an ending around 20 volumes while it's still going strong. Jujutsu got it, Kimetsu got it, Promised Neverland only missed out on the movie. They're not looking for the next eternally running Narurto/Bleach/One Piece anymore, it's these shorter series with a clear in and out hype cycle. My Hero Academia and Black Clover might be the lest new series for a while that get to shoot for 30 - 40 volume lifetimes. How are new authors going to adapt to the current era's editorial expectations?
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To be fair, Oda and the staff are probably smarter than that and wouldnt include 20 year old sketches in her vivre card.
I still believe she was made up on mid through Wano though.Perhaps that's true, but I think the telling aspect is just how unsettled her design was - seemingly until relatively recently. Which doesn't say much about joining or not joining, but does indicate Yamato in her present form is very unlikely to be found in sketches from early One Piece.
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Perhaps that's true, but I think the telling aspect is just how unsettled her design was - seemingly until relatively recently. Which doesn't say much about joining or not joining, but does indicate Yamato in her present form is very unlikely to be found in sketches from early One Piece.
Sure but you look at early LJinbe sketches and he was all over the place until right before his reveal too. LLike Oda knew he wanted him to be a big wide guy, but otherwise the overall designs varied really wildly.
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Chopper, Franky and Brook all deviated a lot from the earliest designs too. It's mostly just the original 5 who were really nailed at launch.
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Not only that, Oda also diverges from his sketches and silhouettes during the series. Just compare the silhouettes of Big Mom and Kaido at the end of Water 7 to what their final design ended up being, they're similar but still distinctively different. The series was intended to be about the fight against the Emperors to become Pirate King so they might have also been part of the initial sketching phase and who knows what they looked like back then.
Changes happen when you're drawing a series for over two decades. Considering that chapter 989 showed the full Straw Hat crew as envisioned shortly before the start of serialization, any new crew members probably won't have sketches that date back to 1997. And even if they do, they'd be stupid to reveal them in the Vivre Cards of unconfirmed new members when you can easily tell the difference between Oda's early and current style.
Never mind that having lots of different sketch versions is no indicator of being unsettled on a design. Just look at all the different post-TS sketches Oda made for the crew. I think it would be more telling if there's little variance in the sketches, when you call it a day after the first or second draft either you hit the jackpot right away or the character isn't important enough to spend more time on.
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There's also that famous early villain concept which showed four unknown characters who had yet to appears. One of them was Hancock, but whoever the other three were, none of them actually appeared with that design (imho, the choinmage one was Oden, for example)
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