Not co. just Marco, his flames have healing abilities.
Don't his flames used you stamina to help you heal ?
If that the case i don't think Zoro has any left lol .
Not co. just Marco, his flames have healing abilities.
Don't his flames used you stamina to help you heal ?
If that the case i don't think Zoro has any left lol .
So, anyone thinks is there any reason why Doggoarashi cannot defeat Jack?
I'm thinking he will.
Inu without sulong could fight Jack for 12 hours on Zou, so I would assume he could fight Jack as long as is needed.
I'm worried that Inu just wants to stall Jack so he can't create any more victims instead of winning. That could be some heavy foreshadowing. Jack may have hybrid still waiting.
I expect Neko to return after the scabbards make sure Momo is safe and Kinemon relieves Yamato of Momo duty. There's no way Neko isn't worried about Inu now that they've made up again. It's just that Momo is a higher priority for Neko right now.
Kaido being framed as the Krieg of the emperors east blue equivilent feels oddly apt. They are kind of similar guys. Flanked by guys who are greater than them, but has kept a low profile and gone under the radar
Would Big Mom be Buggy?
Would Big Mom be Buggy?
She is oh so much carrying on the spirit of Buggy.
Can't you just see Buggy doing the same uh-oh i'm falling off the island gag
Don't his flames used you stamina to help you heal ?
If that the case i don't think Zoro has any left lol .
They just heal as far as I know. But we've seen depleted stamina being pushed aside in One Piece before, mainly in Impel Down/Marineford with Ivankov's hormone injections.
It's not too big of a stretch to think maybe Chopper is able to provide a drug that lets you keep fighting if necessary, at the cost of then being down for longer (Tanuki-san Meth)
Edit: I misread that originally, yes it has been hinted that they do take the recipient's stamina in that case. The version I read leaves it a bit open whether that is just for the continuous counteracting of the virus or a general effect though. Maybe the official translation is different.
Don't his flames used you stamina to help you heal ?
If that the case i don't think Zoro has any left lol .
Maybe, can’t remember. But I would say he has some stamina left, only his body is at its limit after Kaido using it as a punching bag.
I don't get it, why are ppl thinking that Marco and co. could heal someone instantly like those healers at RPGs?
Healing is not just topping someone's HP from 3,000 to 12,000 or so you know, if that could happen then Law will become an MVP in the rooftop battle as a heal bot lol
I don't get it, why are ppl thinking that I meant Marco would heal Zoro instantly and completely?
Healing Zoro even from like 500 HP to 2.000 HP out of his max 12.000 HP would do wonders. Especially when almost all of the other potential opponents are well strained themselves already.
Just have the healer cast blood stop and enchanted bandaid on him and he's fine.
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Scruffy bandana boosts stamina and gives protection against critical hits
Law can just shambles some blood directly into Zoros veins if need be, and top it off with a spiffy new [Adrenaline Boost] ability
I dont know if this has already been said but Im noticing a few superficial similarities between luffy vs kaido and crocidile vs luffy for example:
The antagonist wins the first round easily; both of luffy's 2nd round powerups (water luffy and haki) were due to him helping an old man;
Crocidile wanted to obtain the Pluton while Kaido wants the ancient weapons in general. Also if kaido has awakened his DF and defeats Luffy again
it would be reminiscent of how Crocidile's 2nd victory was largely due to an awakening-like technique.
I dont know if this has already been said but Im noticing a few superficial similarities between luffy vs kaido and crocidile vs luffy for example:
The antagonist wins the first round easily; both of luffy's 2nd round powerups (water luffy and haki) were due to him helping an old man;
Crocidile wanted to obtain the Pluton while Kaido wants the ancient weapons in general. Also if kaido has awakened his DF and defeats Luffy again
it would be reminiscent of how Crocidile's 2nd victory was largely due to an awakening-like technique.
I'm not sure if Crocodile has demonstated an awakened DF, it might've just been a function of his Suna Suna no Mi in general.
But I do agree that it will probably follow the same structure, Luffy gets a few hits in with a new technique, gets beaten down, we switch to the others to conclude those fights and then get back to the main show again.
That's basically how it always works. This is why that fight is far from over, even though some people seem not to understand it.
Its a good comparison given the SHs haven't gotten that close with and spent as much time with a "princess" like figure in Momonosuke since Vivi.
Not as wonderful as the four emperors of easto brue but it's fine i guess
The concept of striking without touching to your enemy's physical body will surely prove useful.
I have some previous posts where I was wandering how the hell Luffy can maintain his G4 in his fight against Blackbeard. It is answered now.
I meant what I said in the spoiler thread. The Foxy fight best showed Luffy’s grit and determination in getting back up again despite getting the crap beat out of him time and again. I think this attitude/portrayal is most people wanted or should have warranted given it’s a fight against Kaidou, he was knocked unconscious, and he exerted a bunch of energy using Gear 4th earlier. Gotta agree too. I know this was the Goku “I got this” moment but it’d be better if he was shown more ragged when getting back up.
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On another topic, I wonder if Zoro’s attack or battle turned any of his swords into a Black Blade.
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And thanks everyone who informed me that Zoro knew about haki.
On another topic, I wonder if Zoro’s attack or battle turned any of his swords into a Black Blade.
I think the story would have give it attention if it happened. It wouldn't be an afterthought ("oh, BTW, Zoro's sword is black now" in a later chapter).
But honestly, when I read the chapter I did wonder how Blackbeard could posssibly deal with this. How his abilities appear to be hardcountered by Luffy at this point. A vibration human against someone made of rubber? A Blackhole fruit that turns off powers on touch, against someone you can't make direct contact with? Will he have to pull out his claw again or what?
Gravity fruit. He can suck Luffy in with his powers and then touch him.
I also have a wild theory, which I can’t imagine being true given he injured Shanks of all people, but I wonder if Blackbeard doesn’t have haki abilities, or at the very least, doesn’t have Conquerer’s haki? It’d be a neat subversion
It would also explain some things, like why he’d want a Df that cancels other DF abilities because he doesn’t have haki to counter other’s powers. It’d also be an odd paradox, given Blackbeard clearly has ambitions but to be fair, a lot of what his virtues are all about letting fate be the dictator of how things end up, like how he said Luffy was fated to not be hunted by them in Jaya or how (if I recalled correctly) attributed him surviving the poison attack in Impel Down to fate.
Again, highly highly doubt this is the route Blackbeard’s role is going towards, but thought it was a neat what if?
Is it possible that O-Lin might come back after Kaidou hits Big Mom accidentally on the head? And she can have a Don Chinjao moment or something.
I think the story would have give it attention if it happened. It wouldn't be an afterthought ("oh, BTW, Zoro's sword is black now" in a later chapter).
Zoro’s not paying attention to his swords. His focus was on taking Kaidou down. Then Luffy had his moment. I think it would’ve messed with the flow if there were panels showing the blackening of a sword this chapter, but maybe when Zoro is in a more settled environment he’d notice?
Reminder that there is a difference between coating a sword with Haki and making that sword black permanently.
But honestly, when I read the chapter I did wonder how Blackbeard could posssibly deal with this. How his abilities appear to be hardcountered by Luffy at this point. A vibration human against someone made of rubber? A Blackhole fruit that turns off powers on touch, against someone you can't make direct contact with? Will he have to pull out his claw again or what?
Blackbeard will infuse the very shockwaves themselves with haki allowing them to bypass all DF defenses, and he will infuse his dark goop with CoC haki allowing it to lock out abilities remotely - like, "aha you may have dodged my gravity-well hand, but due to haki my darkness extends BEYOND my hand so in fact I did grab you with my haki so I can now hurt you with my haki quake which covers a larger than normal area due to haki"
haki haki haki
It would be kinda hilarious if Kaido isn't really that tough, he's just used the fact that most people can't actually hurt him enough to beat him to coast into being an Emperor (Like that old episode of The Simpsons where Homer becomes a boxer).
It's very unlikely though.
It would be kinda hilarious if Kaido isn't really that tough, he's just used the fact that most people can't actually hurt him enough to beat him to coast into being an Emperor (Like that old episode of The Simpsons where Homer becomes a boxer).
It's very unlikely though.
Also we know the first DF that cant be hurt is gomu gomu. He can be hurt if attacked by haki. But since Luffy start to mastered it, it should Luffy that naturally can't be hurt by anyone. A dragon need a scale to protect. Rubber?? rubber itself is protection.
Blackbeard has probably been preparing to fight Shanks for the last two years. Beating a non-DF haki-master Emperor with a balanced crew of notoriously strong people will cement the BB pirates as a very serious threat.
I don't know why you guys expect BB to play it fair with shanks and luffy. The guy will pull some dirty tricks to get ahead, that is how reall pirates roll.
@Daz:
Blackbeard will infuse the very shockwaves themselves with haki allowing them to bypass all DF defenses, and he will infuse his dark goop with CoC haki allowing it to lock out abilities remotely - like, "aha you may have dodged my gravity-well hand, but due to haki my darkness extends BEYOND my hand so in fact I did grab you with my haki so I can now hurt you with my haki quake which covers a larger than normal area due to haki"
haki haki haki
Then his laugh turns in to hakihakihakihakihaki
Kizaru should be fun. He's probably the fastest guy around and he's got a good destructive potential. And it would be satisfying to see Luffy get to a place where he can hang pay them back for sabody
Kizaru is clearly made for sanji, he is the only other guy out there that has fighting style based on kicks at the speed of light. Raid suit also has speed of light…
Kizaru could also be the naval hero of marines, and germa was fighting naval hero of marines sora in the comic strip. Kizaru is also from north blue.
get your dirty main character paws away from sanji's fight, didn't you steal enough fights!
I think Luffy vs. Blackbeard will be framed as grit and willpower (haki) vs. shortcuts and cheating (DF powers). So basically standard shonen. BB cowered for decades, basically being a total opportunist, while Luffy always put himself in danger, driven by his drive and ambition. It's clear who will be the haki master by the end. BB relies on totally OP devil fruit powers, while Luffy will beat BB without any DF powers at all (since BB can disable it, maybe awakened can do it at a distance), just literally pure willpower. So I'm in the camp of Luffy will beat BB in base form.
@Joy:
Luffy sent Kaido flying in base. Luffy blocked Kaido's club like nothing. Luffy just went toe-to-toe with Kaido and basically eclipsed him.
You are severely overreacting. Luffy also got a good hit in at the start. Caught Kaidou by surprise. And Kaidou got up and laughed at it. It's fine. This is the endgame. If Luffy can't wound or block an attack from an emperor then that's trouble. It DOES NOT mean that Kaidou has been outclassed. As far as I read that scene, Kaidou was not expecting Luffy to use COC against him, and was caught by surprise. You may interpret it differently.. Regardless, I don't expect Luffy's COC to match Kaidou's.
Re: Big Mom vs. Straw-Hats.
The Straw-Hats are a great team. I'm confident that any random handful of 4-5 Straw-Hats could delay any character in the entire series, if that was all they needed to accomplish.
Do people really dislike Haki this much?
Do people really dislike Haki this much?
Yes.
I don't even try to understand it, neither to discuss it.
Is just boring.
Yes.
I don't even try to understand it, neither to discuss it.
Is just boring.
You say this, as Oda introduces the secret fourth Haki type.
Gravity fruit. He can suck Luffy in with his powers and then touch him.
I also have a wild theory, which I can’t imagine being true given he injured Shanks of all people, but I wonder if Blackbeard doesn’t have haki abilities, or at the very least, doesn’t have Conquerer’s haki? It’d be a neat subversion
It would also explain some things, like why he’d want a Df that cancels other DF abilities because he doesn’t have haki to counter other’s powers. It’d also be an odd paradox, given Blackbeard clearly has ambitions but to be fair, a lot of what his virtues are all about letting fate be the dictator of how things end up, like how he said Luffy was fated to not be hunted by them in Jaya or how (if I recalled correctly) attributed him surviving the poison attack in Impel Down to fate.Again, highly highly doubt this is the route Blackbeard’s role is going towards, but thought it was a neat what if?
I'm really not a fan of the "Blackbeard doesn't have haki" theories. I hear them in my real life circle of friends who read One Piece and also on reddit a lot. It just doesn't make sense to me. He's been fighting in the New World for decades and as you said was strong enough to injure Shanks. He was also the first person in the series to talk about Haki, though I know that doesn't really mean he can use it. It just doesn't make sense that he could spend that much time fighting at the pinnacle of pirates without a technique so integral to the world of pirates and fighting in general. Him not having CoC would probably be pretty interesting since he wouldn't be a "chosen one" but it would be really weird if he isn't skilled with the other 2 imo.
Then again it also makes no sense that CP9, one of the World Government's most important organizations doesn't have haki despite being handpicked and trained by the Government since they were children, but that's another discussion entirely.
Then again it also makes no sense that CP9, one of the World Government's most important organizations doesn't have haki despite being handpicked and trained by the Government since they were children, but that's another discussion entirely.
This is actually one thing about OP that, well it doesn't bug me because hey its a comic book for kids, but is pretty funny.
And I still haven't heard a good reason for it. Like someone in the higher ups from WG just decided they shouldn't learn it out of spite.
Like, imagine all these shitty vice admirals flexing in front of Lucci or Jabra with their haki and they just being like "…"
"Hey pretty cat boy most deadly assassin ever, can you even use your will power to harden your hands or whatever lol"
-Vice admiral Dalmatian
Do people really dislike Haki this much?
I hope so. The series, battle-wise, used to be about wacky pirates with wacky powers, that the adversary had to work around in order to overcome. Like when Luffy in order to beat Corcodile had to keep his knuckles wet in the middle of the desert, or when Eneru had to adapt when he unexpectedly was matched with hi natural counter, or when Usop turned to be Perona's natural counter, and so on and so forth.
Now it's about buff demigods who all have the same vaguely defined, swiss army knife power, battles come down to who hakipunches better and fruit power are just slighty more than cosmetics since your haki proficiency is what really matters in the end.
It is really boring.
This is actually one thing about OP that, well it doesn't bug me because hey its a comic book for kids, but is pretty funny.
And I still haven't heard a good reason for it. Like someone in the higher ups from WG just decided they shouldn't learn it out of spite.
Like, imagine all these shitty vice admirals flexing in front of Lucci or Jabra with their haki and they just being like "…""Hey pretty cat boy most deadly assassin ever, can you even use your will power to harden your hands or whatever lol"
-Vice admiral Dalmatian
Lucci: My shigan penetrates your hardness –> breaks fingers while trying
Lucci: My Tekkai can take your punches --> gets pummeled by Dalmatian
Haki isn't all bad. A mochi dude would be completely laughable without it, but due to haki he can harden himself enough to be an actual opponent. Same with biscuits, only haki hardening allowed there to be a fight. Also haki allows logias and OP OP no mi to be dealt with (though preferably OP OP no mi should never have been so ridiculous) and allows badasses without DF powers to be badass.
I'm not saying haki is always used correctly and it definitely has downsides, but it also has its merits. How else can Luffy ever become the strongest guy without just coasting on OP gear forms?
Mr. Morj has an interesting video about this, can recommend it.
This is actually one thing about OP that, well it doesn't bug me because hey its a comic book for kids, but is pretty funny.
And I still haven't heard a good reason for it. Like someone in the higher ups from WG just decided they shouldn't learn it out of spite.
Like, imagine all these shitty vice admirals flexing in front of Lucci or Jabra with their haki and they just being like "…""Hey pretty cat boy most deadly assassin ever, can you even use your will power to harden your hands or whatever lol"
-Vice admiral Dalmatian
I don't know why this is such a problem honestly.
From what we've seen CP9 deal with, there was never a reason for haki. Since they mostly deal with civilians and potentially low-class pirates in their duties, Rokushiki seems like a more useful skill to master.
Sure, you can make the "why not both" argument and it is technically a plot hole, but it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that when 99% of your potential targets have neither haki nor DFs, it's pretty low on the priority list.
This is actually one thing about OP that, well it doesn't bug me because hey its a comic book for kids, but is pretty funny.
And I still haven't heard a good reason for it. Like someone in the higher ups from WG just decided they shouldn't learn it out of spite.
Like, imagine all these shitty vice admirals flexing in front of Lucci or Jabra with their haki and they just being like "…""Hey pretty cat boy most deadly assassin ever, can you even use your will power to harden your hands or whatever lol"
-Vice admiral Dalmatian
I think a reasonable answer for it is that, at that time, Oda had not fully conceptualized haki as it is today yet. And that is why haki concept is weaker than the other fighting abilities such as devil fruits.
I think a reasonable answer for it is that, at that time, Oda had not fully conceptualized haki as it is today ye
I mean, this is totally the reason, it just creates really funny scenarios in my mind.
*Lucci being all cool and mysterious sitting on a sofa. Spouting about the joys of murder.
*Vice admiral Doberman sneaks up on him, slapping Lucci really hard on the head.
I think Luffy vs. Blackbeard will be framed as grit and willpower (haki) vs. shortcuts and cheating (DF powers). So basically standard shonen. BB cowered for decades, basically being a total opportunist, while Luffy always put himself in danger, driven by his drive and ambition. It's clear who will be the haki master by the end. BB relies on totally OP devil fruit powers, while Luffy will beat BB without any DF powers at all (since BB can disable it, maybe awakened can do it at a distance), just literally pure willpower. So I'm in the camp of Luffy will beat BB in base form.
Luffy is almost always the underdog in every fight, so him dominating in his fight with BB would feel refreshing. Just throw in some nasty cheap tricks from BB to make it somewhat of a fight.
I get Oda wanting to not have to figure roundabout solutions for every logia, or even non-punch solutions for hurting Luffy, but I would have preferred if Haki was limited to just that. Now that we're in "your ability straight up doesn't affect enemies if their haki level is above 10.000" territory it definetely feels too much.
Also, can anyone explain to me how Luffys fists catch on fire, I never got that, is that also a haki thing
@Daz:
Also, can anyone explain to me how Luffys fists catch on fire, I never got that, is that also a haki thing
The most One Piece explanation is that Luffy is doing something similar to Luffy. He's basically pumping his fist so fast in Gear 2, it generates alot of heat and catches fire.
Then again it also makes no sense that CP9, one of the World Government's most important organizations doesn't have haki despite being handpicked and trained by the Government since they were children, but that's another discussion entirely.
It's probably cuz CP 1-9 probably have only gotten so far training wise. Took Luffy 2 years. How much time did CP9 waste undercover in Water 7 again? WG probably just thought cuz of the team's efficiency, kill streak, and how important getting the plugin blueprints were they could overlook it
CP0 is the real crown jewel.
I mean all of CP9 hadn't even mastered rokushiki and rokuogan. Tekkai was like imitation CoA and Kami-e was adjacent knockoff CoO.
@Daz:
Also, can anyone explain to me how Luffys fists catch on fire, I never got that, is that also a haki thing
Never explained, but I guess armament haki can be flamable. That would explain Red Hawk, Diable Jambe and Boa Marigold's self-imolation technique. Considering the Boa sisters fight was an introduction to the capabilities of haki, I find this explanation very likely.
Low level techniques require an external heat source (Sanji had to spin to create friction and ignite his foot back then, and Marigold required to light a match in order to start combustion), but advanced users (like today's Sanji or Luffy) can do it at will.
@Daz:
I get Oda wanting to not have to figure roundabout solutions for every logia, or even non-punch solutions for hurting Luffy, but I would have preferred if Haki was limited to just that. Now that we're in "your ability straight up doesn't affect enemies if their haki level is above 10.000" territory it definetely feels too much.
Also, can anyone explain to me how Luffys fists catch on fire, I never got that, is that also a haki thing
Manifestation of a fiery spirit or its a Luffy thing with his gears where he let off steam with gear 2 and now with CoA on top of it he's straight up igniting the air with his body parts.
You say this, as Oda introduces the secret fourth Haki type.
We all know its going to be called "Color of the God King" all haki types in one! And only one person every 20 years is born with it.
Why I like Haki as a concept, it tends to be super dumb at some points, like referring that people who use it, have a limited supply of it. Which is pretty stupid, considering Haki is literally mental willpower and ambition given form. So does that mean that people have limited supplies of "willpower/ambition"?
@Daz:
Also, can anyone explain to me how Luffys fists catch on fire, I never got that, is that also a haki thing
My headcanon, making fire is just something some people can do, like how Minks get inbuilt electric powers and Fishmen get waterbending. Too many characters besides Luffy have spontaneously made fire for it to be fruit related or only possible through his high level haki. How haki-driven could it be if Pearl was able to pull it off back in the East Blue?
But who even knows what direction Oda will take it, if he ever chooses to explain it at all.
@Galleon:
We all know its going to be called "Color of the God King" all haki types in one! And only one person every 20 years is born with it.
Aawwwn
I wanted it to be ultra instict haki with blue hair.