Did they really change it cause of Laws?
Or cause 'communism' its straight up becoming synonyms with economic failure?
American Politics thread: No Nazis Allowed
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It's even likely that Waren is pulling more voters from Biden than from Bernie. All the progressives are already behind Bernie. Some time ago Warren competed with Buttigieg for the same voters, so she probably still pulls mostly from the centrist.
@Cyan:Cenk is an Armenian Genocide denier and a union buster, sorry.
He was a right wing lunatic 20 years ago (no wait that was when he deleted the tweets), but his politics have made a 180 since then and he really is force of good for the left now. He certainly doesn't deny the armenian genocide anymore. He was indoctrinated by Turkish propaganda in his youth. There are a lot of Turkish people living here and I can tell you how indoctrinated so many of them are. They're living in a first world country with freedom of speech and still they adore Erdogan like nothing. As my Turkish housemate says: they basically do nothing but watch Turkish tv all the time.
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You guys still have an outright Communist Party? I though we were the odd ones out because of our quasi-communist revolution in the 70s still gave our commies some credit with the older folks!
Well it is not really branding itself as communist anymore, not since the berlin wall fell. But a new coat of paint and a snazy new name won't stop me from thinking of them as the good ol communist party. And internally it is still pretty communist, kind of like how the rebranded nationalist party still has plenty of white power retards in their ranks.
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But signing up to those parties is easy.
-trash-talk neoliberalism
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Well it is not really branding itself as communist anymore, not since the berlin wall fell. But a new coat of paint and a snazy new name won't stop me from thinking of them as the good ol communist party. And internally it is still pretty communist, kind of like how the rebranded nationalist party still has plenty of white power retards in their ranks.
The nomenclature for European political parties seems to fall into this index:
Liberal Party - Right wing party, vaguely Republican-ish
Democratic Party - Right wing party, vaguely Nazi-ish
Labor Party - Left wing party, probably racist
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At this point, think I may vote for a third party candidate in the general. Unless uncle Joe does something to appeal to me or a miracle happens. I do live in a safe red state(hasn't gone blue since 1964(Excluding D2(Obama 08)) however, if it was a swing or even safe blue would end up voting for Joe.
Edit: Included Obama note, I was gerrymandered into D3, which is absurdly safe red.
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They clearly aren't the same ethnicity though.
lol what marks one out as Italian and the other out as Turkish, i'm curious what sixth sense you have on ethnicities
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@Monkey:
lol what marks one out as Italian and the other out as Turkish, i'm curious what sixth sense you have on ethnicities
I had to really think about why, but my initial instinct was to say that Cenk looks dirty and Buddy looks greasy.
There's just something about Cenk's skin that just doesn't shine as evenly as Buddy's.
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Well Warren’s out.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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hopefully this'll be the last one
[hide]yes the flaming dollar bill's 'Bloomberg' lol[/hide]
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Well Warren’s out.
Confirmation: https://reut.rs/2x60Xku
I'm torn now on my primary vote. Sanders has the energy but I don't know if trust him to be able to go to job. Biden isn't much to write home about, not he's unlikely to be an active impediment to progressive policy.
Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.
Statler: No you haven't.
Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!
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And then there were two.
And also Gabbard.
hopefully this'll be the last one
I'm pretty sure Gabbard isn't going to heaven.
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I had to really think about why, but my initial instinct was to say that Cenk looks dirty and Buddy looks greasy.
What the fuck lol.
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I've been gone awhile, did the administration here become pro-casual racism at some point or...
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@Cyan:
The nomenclature for European political parties seems to fall into this index:
Liberal Party - Right wing party, vaguely Republican-ish
Democratic Party - Right wing party, vaguely Nazi-ish
Labor Party - Left wing party, probably racist
People's Democratic Party - Nazis
Democratic People's Party - CommunistsOurs tend to just be exactly what it says on the box. The christian democrats are religious, the liberals are free market dudes, the social demokrats are socialists, the sweden democrats are nationalists etc etc
I had to really think about why, but my initial instinct was to say that Cenk looks dirty and Buddy looks greasy.
There's just something about Cenk's skin that just doesn't shine as evenly as Buddy's.
Also, Buddy's eyes and smile look very Italian, and his hair looks a lot nicer.You really need to work on your filter bro. Like i imagine you didn't mean it the way it reads, but you can't go around saying stuff like Turks look dirty or any thing like that. Not only is it hella racist but you'll get yourself in serious trouble
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@Cyan:
I'm pretty sure Gabbard isn't going to heaven.
Apparently the meme's creator said that if she had dropped out (much) earlier, she'd be on there a 'second time' somehow lol
[hide]not unlike Beto's face in the background[/hide]
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Welcome to Arlong Park, where all people (even dirty middle easterners and greaseball dagos) are accepted.
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Gravel really should be a shadow puppet Twitter bird.
@Monkey:
Welcome to Arlong Park, where all people (even dirty middle easterners and greaseball dagos) are accepted.
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@Monkey:
What the fuck lol.
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@Monkey:
Welcome to Arlong Park, where all people (even dirty middle easterners and greaseball dagos) are accepted.
You really need to work on your filter bro. Like i imagine you didn't mean it the way it reads, but you can't go around saying stuff like Turks look dirty or any thing like that. Not only is it hella racist but you'll get yourself in serious trouble
Sorry, I didn't mean for it to come across that way.
I'm not sure how else to describe the difference in skin reflectivity between those two sweaty white guys though.Hopefully it's obvious that I don't think most white people are as sweaty as celebrities working under hot lights or getting their mug shots taken.
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Lol 10/10 word choice blue.
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posts a pciture of a mexican guy
Robo: Hmm, that guys has a …..damp back? Funny.
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I had to really think about why, but my initial instinct was to say that Cenk looks dirty and Buddy looks greasy.
There's just something about Cenk's skin that just doesn't shine as evenly as Buddy's.
Also, Buddy's eyes and smile look very Italian, and his hair looks a lot nicer.They look pretty similar ethnically, which is to say a little darker than olive skinned. They could be brothers. My brother and I look a lot alike, but his skin is like two or three shades darker and always has been. Cenk has a really strong and square jaw where Buddy almost has little jaw or chin. I don't know of any ethnicity that is known to lack or have those features more often. It is weird though, because looking at Buddy's picture, I assumed he was Italian. Part of it is having some association with chef outfits and Italian people. The other must be associating the name Buddy with it since I'm from Cincinnati and Larosas' Pizza was started by a guy named Buddy.
Either way, they look similar but not at all like the same person. And your post is hilarious.
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Ours tend to just be exactly what it says on the box. The christian democrats are religious, the liberals are free market dudes, the social demokrats are socialists, the sweden democrats are nationalists etc etc
The article I found described one of the gatherings of the Worker's Party here in Hungary, and they straight up bid a good morning to Lenin…
@wolfwood:social demokrats
Psst, your Swedish is showing.
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@Monkey:
posts a pciture of a mexican guy
Robo: Hmm, that guys has a …..damp back? Funny.
Oh look, and he has the same skin tone as a brown bean.
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Confirmation: https://reut.rs/2x60Xku
Guess I'm gonna have to support Bernie as long as he can keep up.
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If Bernie doesn't win Michigan and Washington both and by pretty big margins next Tuesday, I would say that he's done.
Complicating things since 2009.
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If Bernie doesn't win Michigan and Washington both and by pretty big margins next Tuesday, I would say that he's done.
I would say he was done on Tuesday, but that's probably just my defeatism showing.
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Buddy and Cenk don't even look a little alike. The fact that you guys think they do says more about you, lol.
Gonna give ya the D.!
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I'd say that the earliest Bernie drops out, the better.
Let's keep in mind Trump's the one to be taken down, asap.
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@The:
I would say he was done on Tuesday, but that's probably just my defeatism showing.
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Buddy and Cenk don't even look a little alike. The fact that you guys think they do says more about you, lol.
Yeah.. some guys here are starting to strike me as your regular Youtube conspirationist mofo
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And the lamb lies down on Broadway
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So…some people are into the conspiracy that Buddy and Cenk look alike?
It is all connected to Soros
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The article I found described one of the gatherings of the Worker's Party here in Hungary, and they straight up bid a good morning to Lenin…
Well it mean who doesn't
Psst, your Swedish is showing.
Hey man our Ks are just as valid as yer Cs
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I bet Soros is involved in pineapple ending up on pizzas.
Does he own the GMO's for Pineapple by any chance?
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@The:
I would say he was done on Tuesday, but that's probably just my defeatism showing.
Yeah he's done. Bernie is at a great disadvantage due to his own party and the media hating him, and Biden having default frontrunner status. Bernie had to clearly beat Biden to make it. Playing even is a loss for Bernie. Now the media will keep giving Biden positive news cycles and all of the undecided goldfish voters who decide within the last day, who were very very numerous on tuesday, will go for Biden. One wonders how everything would have gone if SC wasn't the last state before tuesday, but some state Bernie won.
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Yeah he's done. Bernie is at a great disadvantage due to his own party and the media hating him, and Biden having default frontrunner status. Bernie had to clearly beat Biden to make it. Playing even is a loss for Bernie. Now the media will keep giving Biden positive news cycles and all of the undecided goldfish voters who decide within the last day, who were very very numerous on tuesday, will go for Biden. One wonders how everything would have gone if SC wasn't the last state before tuesday, but some state Bernie won.
Even if Bernie just lost on Tuesday I could see a reason to keep going, but this wasn't "just" a loss. It was a crushing defeat. Oh well, Dementia 2020! Make America…who are you? What am I doing up here?
Gonna give ya the D.!
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@The:
Even if Bernie just lost on Tuesday I could see a reason to keep going, but this wasn't "just" a loss. It was a crushing defeat. Oh well, Dementia 2020! Make America…who are you? What am I doing up here?
Well it wasn't a crushing defeat going by delegates. Biden only has a small lead but that's difficult to overcome because again, playing even isn't enough in this case.
Okay, who hacked my phone and made a meme with my picture?
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For Status Quo oligarchs, is even better if Biden wins this one time.
That'll make him the candidate in 2024 also, making Bernie have to wait 8 years for his next chance, can his heart resist 8 years without doing any funny stuff??That way, you get rid off both the fascist and the populist in one hit.
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Well it wasn't a crushing defeat going by delegates. Biden only has a small lead but that's difficult to overcome because again, playing even isn't enough in this case.
Okay, who hacked my phone and made a meme with my picture?
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/771/792/aa1.pngI was going more by who won what states. Even states Bernie was projected to win like texas and massachusetts were handily won by biden. Bernie can't win a majority of the delegates now, which he would have needed going into the convention. It's not impossible, but it certainly isn't looking doable from where I'm sitting.
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Gonna give ya the D.!
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@The:
I was going more by who won what states. Even states Bernie was projected to win like texas and massachusetts were handily won by biden. Bernie can't win a majority of the delegates now, which he would have needed going into the convention. It's not impossible, but it certainly isn't looking doable from where I'm sitting.
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God dammit, I googled it xD
I thought it was a real person -_-
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Yeah he's done. Bernie is at a great disadvantage due to his own party and the media hating him, and Biden having default frontrunner status. Bernie had to clearly beat Biden to make it. Playing even is a loss for Bernie. Now the media will keep giving Biden positive news cycles and all of the undecided goldfish voters who decide within the last day, who were very very numerous on tuesday, will go for Biden. One wonders how everything would have gone if SC wasn't the last state before tuesday, but some state Bernie won.
But that's one crucial point: it's not his party. He's an independent running in the Democratic primary. I find it hilarious how people are expecting the DNC to just be all buddy-buddy when he's clinging to his lone wolf status and thrashing the Establishment. That may be his shtick, but he sure hasn't been smart about this. You can't fail at the most basic of politics and then be all like "bUt tHe dNc!!!11ONE!
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So basically what it comes down to, if you're against money in politics, and the current state of wall street and the pharmaceutical industry you're not a real democrat. The careers of the party leadership are predicated on those things, so that makes you their enemy. They still allowed him to run as a democrat so doesn't that make him a democrat? What is a 'real' democrat? Was FDR not a real democrat for oposing elites? Is that not the spirit of the party to stand up for the working class? AOC also trashes the dem establishment and at least Nancy Pelosi hates her. Is she not a real democrat either?
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So basically what it comes down to, if you're against money in politics, and the current state of wall street and the pharmaceutical industry you're not a real democrat. The careers of the party leadership are predicated on those things, so that makes you their enemy. They still allowed him to run as a democrat so doesn't that make him a democrat? What is a 'real' democrat? Was FDR not a real democrat for oposing elites? Is that not the spirit of the party to stand up for the working class? AOC also trashes the dem establishment and at least Nancy Pelosi hates her. Is she not a real democrat either?
Yes, Bernie is more of a democrat than anyone in the actual democratic party today. The party has moved to the right since FDR.
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So basically what it comes down to, if you're against money in politics, and the current state of wall street and the pharmaceutical industry you're not a real democrat. The careers of the party leadership are predicated on those things, so that makes you their enemy. They still allowed him to run as a democrat so doesn't that make him a democrat? What is a 'real' democrat? Was FDR not a real democrat for oposing elites? Is that not the spirit of the party to stand up for the working class? AOC also trashes the dem establishment and at least Nancy Pelosi hates her. Is she not a real democrat either?
Read Kaiolinos posts. This is about politics. If you don't even try to get along and oil some wheels, then you can't be surprised afterwards when things didn't work out. His beliefs aren't helping either, that's for sure.
Even if Pelosi hates AOC, she's part of the party. She's playing the game and if she plays her cards right, the left-wingers might come out on top. Of course there are power plays even in a party. It's an even bigger problem when you're standing outside of it.
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AOC is a registered Democrat, Bernie is a registered Independent that has Caucused with the party because running as a third party candidate in a presidential bid historically hasn’t paid off too well.
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As a non american, I can understand completely why the wealthy and the oligarchs viscerally hate Sanders and his ideas, but as a middle class and lower what throws a wrench on them supporting him? It’s a personality issue, is a ideological issue, is a mix of both, is neither?
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As a non american, I can understand completely why the wealthy and the oligarchs viscerally hate Sanders and his ideas, but as a middle class and lower what throws a wrench on them supporting him? It’s a personality issue, is a ideological issue, is a mix of both, is neither?
A lot of it probably boils down to "socialist man BAD!" and biden being seen as a safe bet to return to the status quo, while Bernie is a risky gamble on a potentially better future.
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@DemonX:Read Kaiolinos posts. This is about politics. If you don't even try to get along and oil some wheels, then you can't be surprised afterwards when things didn't work out. His beliefs aren't helping either, that's for sure.
So basically, it's too early for a progressive to become the nominee yet because it's too left of the party itself (and too many voters are still scared of the idea even though they love the policies it entails). I don't disagree with that. Tuesday showed that.
How can someone who is an existential threat to people's careers build bridges and oil wheels with them? By nature of him being progressive; against money in politics and the corrupt, harmful donors of the party it excludes him from building too many bridges. What could he have done other than giving up on his political positions? I know that compromise is a part of politics but it's a fine line to tread. Our labor party here was one of the top 2 parties since forever, then it got completely annihilated for compromising with the liberal party. That's what Warren did with M4A and that has something to do with her plumetting to irrelevance from polling higher than anyone at one point. Bernie would lose his base of support and stellar approval ratings. It's a catch 22.
So then the conclusion is that real massive change can only come from the bottom. We need more AOCs to kick out all the Joe Crowleys.
@Green_vs_Red:AOC is a registered Democrat, Bernie is a registered Independent that has Caucused with the party because running as a third party candidate in a presidential bid historically hasn’t paid off too well.
What, still? He has to be a registered democrat right? He's running for their nominee. Or can he register for both at the same time?
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My understanding is Sanders is registered as a Democrat for the purposes of campaigning and, skills he end up winning it all, would be considered a Democratic President.
Meanwhile:
Sanders: If Biden Has More Delegates At The Convention or "End Of The Process," He's The Nominee
In an interview with MSNBC host Rachel Maddow, Sen. Bernie Sanders said if former Vice President Joe Biden had a plurality of delegates entering the convention he should be the Democratic party's presidential nominee. However, Sanders also said it would be unfair and a disaster if superdelegates selected a candidate on the second ballot that had earned fewer delegates than another candidate in the primary race.
"If Biden walks into the convention or at the end of the process has more votes than me, he's the winner," Sanders told Maddow on Wednesday.
Sanders later clarified by votes he meant delegates.
"I think it would be a real, real disaster for the Democratic party if, you know, I'm running against you and you have more votes than me and I say, well, wait a second, I don't want Rachel. I want somebody else who didn't get as many votes as she did, let's count the superdelegates' vote on the second ballot, you know what that would do to the Democratic electorate? People would say the person who got the most votes didn't get selected," Sanders said.
