On the "Oden strolling through Wano and casually leaving with the poneglyph" situation, i think it would have made more sense if everything in Wano looked normal.
First, you remove the point of the factories having already been built or you place the factories somewhere noone would notice, for example Onigashima. You can also tie that later with the abductions, by hinting at labor slavery (on a macro-level, that would also give thematic consistency as a parallel to the corruption of the WG). Otherwise, by confirming the existence of the factories, not only do you take away the impact of Kinnemon and co seeing Wano's post apocalypctic state after time travelling but its also very hard to believe that Oden didnt notice how much Wano changed in his absense. Just think about how ridiculous this is…we see Oden turn his back on Wano and say that he could immediately tell that the wano he once knew had already changed significantly. Well DUH bro, there are goddamn factories and pollution behind you. Anyway, then, you make it a case where Oden on his way to getting the poneglyph doesnt notice a change at all. He is treated either respectfully or just like when he was young (thus hinting at Orochi indoctrinating the people). Either way works because Oden is very absent-minded, gullible and not that perceptive. If it was the second case, you could easily make it look like Oden probably forgotten that there was a time when he was being viewed with respect and thus naturally accepted that him being treated negatively was just the normal state of things. So far so good. After that point, Oden would somehow get the vibe that something is off but still not get the full picture. You could explain Kinemon not telling Oden what was happening as Toki specifically requesting him not to say anything to him. Ofc that would make Toki look a bit questionable but it would make a bit of sense at considering how much she wanted Oden to continue his travels no matter what. There's one missing piece. The presense of the Roger pirates and Kaido-Orochi. The solution would be to make Kaido unaware of the fact that Roger is here and/or the fact that there's a poneglyph in Wano (the second case is pretty unlikely bcuz you would assume the poneglyph would have been one of Orochi's gifts to Kaido for stricking a deal with him). Or you just dont have Kaido and Orochi making a deal yet. Actually, that solves most of the problems. Well, screw everything i said, just dont make Kaido and Orochi allies yet
Chapter 972: I Am Oden, And I Was Born To Boil
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As for the question why Whitebeard didn't come to Oden's help on his own: because he didn't know Oden needed any help. There was no way to contact anybody in Wano from the outside, plus he didn't even know there was a reason to worry about Oden in the first place for him. Razh said that Whitebeard should have come, at the very least, to save the family of his former bro, but again, when? He didn't know there was trouble in Wano while Oden was alive, and who knows when he found about Oden's eventual death - maybe it was years later. He certainly didn't find out about it in the few hours between Oden's death and Kaido attacking his family - which, as far as anybody knew, ended with death of every member of the Kozuki clan. So the idea that Whitebeard is a jerk for not going to save Oden and/or his family is off the table.
The only reason he could have gone there later was in order to avenge Oden's death, but as I said, who knows when he even found about it (if ever!). Maybe Ace told him about it, but that would have been like, 18 years later or something. I think it's at the very least debatable if Whitebeard should go to war for that reason at this point (a war that, most probably, would have ended up destroying the country of his friend completely, knowing both his and Kaido's style of fighting).
I don't have a problem with Whitebeard not finding out about what went on in Wano, per se. And after all, he was probably busy fighting during that period. He didn't become an emperor over night.
But even so, don't like the idea that he couldn't have discovered Kaido is on Wano simply because "Wano is isolated". Ever since SH entered the NW, we've seen how fast the news fly around. And even without a news agency or an underground information network, 5 years is a long time for Whitebeard to lose sight of someone like Kaido. Add to that the fact there's also Izo on his ship. Am I supposed to believe it never occurred to him to check up on things? It's not like Wano is in the middle of nowhere.
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Oden should have some means of contacting and/or finding WB since he was originally planning to swing back and pick up Izo if nothing else.
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When joining Roger, Oden said that since they became pirates, they're free to do what they want. When the Roger Pirates were separating, Oden told Roger that Izou is now part of Whitey's fam. I don't think he ever wanted to take Izou back
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Oden should have some means of contacting and/or finding WB since he was originally planning to swing back and pick up Izo if nothing else.
Lets say he got a vivre card from any member of WB crew or any other former Roger pirate, how is he supposed to set sail? We were introduced to him trying multiple times to set sail and each time he failed.
Now lets assume, he is able to set sail, with or without his family or retainers does not matter. As soon as he leaves, Kaido and Orochi are going to do as they please and turn Wano into a worse state as it already is in.
Oden decided to uphold his part of the deal, he checked on all the citizens of Wano and nothing changed, so he was in his right to believe that Orochi and Kaido would be true to their word.
As soon as they stopped he decided to kill Kaido. Would they've been enough time to seek out WB or any other allies during that time?
No, cause he started to realise that Kaido and Orochi wouldn't stay true to their word.Hope my reasoning isn't flawed or I missed anything important.
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Lets say he got a vivre card from any member of WB crew or any other former Roger pirate, how is he supposed to set sail? We were introduced to him trying multiple times to set sail and each time he failed.
Now lets assume, he is able to set sail, with or without his family or retainers does not matter. As soon as he leaves, Kaido and Orochi are going to do as they please and turn Wano into a worse state as it already is in.Wasn't he already trying to get ahold of a ship or something during the 5 years as a condition for the pact he made with Orochi? Probably the ship was the means to contact WB or former Roger pirates if nothing else.
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Wasn't he already trying to get ahold of a ship or something during the 5 years as a condition for the pact he made with Orochi? Probably the ship was the means to contact WB or former Roger pirates if nothing else.
If I'm not mistaken this was cleared up in Chapter 971, the ships were meant for Kaido and Orochi to leave Wano. Its on the last page of the Chapter btw. so its easy to miss it.
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Could the chapter be leaked this week anyway and we people who follow the leaks will actually get the break next week?
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No, OP won't be published in Jump this week so no chance of early leaks
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We should get more info about how kaidou got to wano.. perhaps his ship was wrecked and his army grew large, and what the smiles has got to do with all these things about ship etc.
With info so less, people making assumption and that's why a side story or sbs for clarification is pretty much what we need at this point. :sad:
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We should get more info about how kaidou got to wano.. perhaps his ship was wrecked and his army grew large, and what the smiles has got to do with all these things about ship etc.
With info so less, people making assumption and that's why a side story or sbs for clarification is pretty much what we need at this point. :sad:
Kaido probably wanted to get to Wano so he can prepare his huge army in secret from the WG or other factions as Wano was closed to the outside. At least that is how I understood the whole thing. And Orochi welcomed him with open arms since he saw in Kaido the means to get revenge for his family and rule Wano.
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Higurashi said she has made connections outside of Wano. Look no further as to why Kaido decided to drop in.
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But why Wano, go conquer Elbaf, the strongest kingdom out there, Yonkos are pussies.
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But Wano has to be at least top 5 the way Akainu hyped it up and all that.
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Well too bad Elbaf didn't have a disgruntled old aunt from the royal family scheming against her own kingdom.
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No chapter this week.
Mr. Pencroft, fetch me a marlinespike. I've the urge to pierce something.
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Damn it, just finding out now there's no chapter this week, Hope Oda's doing okay
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An official message about Oda health regarding chapter 973 .
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What does it say exactly?
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An official message about Oda health regarding chapter 973 .
For our readers
Thank you very much for always enjoying reading one piece.
Due to one piece's author's sudden illness, one piece will be on hiatus this issue. -
That's basically the same generic stock statement they use for every unplanned break of any series.
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That's basically the same generic stock statement they use for every unplanned break of any series.
Let's wish it is the current situation, and nothing to worry about.
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Glad that Greg confirmed that nothing serious happened to Oda and everything's okay.
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Glad that Greg confirmed that nothing serious happened to Oda and everything's okay.
Good to hear, Greg sure is the real MVP.
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It's confirmed : New chapter arrives on
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Well too bad Elbaf didn't have a disgruntled old aunt from the royal family scheming against her own kingdom.
Not that we know of, anyway.
Beware the TARPITBEARD CONSPIRACY oooWOOOOOoooooo
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Oda got hit by coronavirus? Hope not.
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Eeh, don't get lead by media, Coronavirus is still just one of the one million viruses out there.
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But Wano has to be at least top 5 the way Akainu hyped it up and all that.
Of course that discussion between akainu and … Either sengoku or garp, about that guy from wano, while threre's no shown connection between oden and marine except that chasing scene.
Oda is hiding so much things, regularly, but we know that's what he do lol.Get well soon Goda, Hope nothing serious happened.
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Probably Oda is fine as hell and he took a sudden break just because he wanted to partecipate at the casting audtions of the live action series.
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Is that Oden, in the boiler, holding up one piece many breaks?
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He just needed an extra week to remind himself what One Piece is after that Oden mini-series we just went through.
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The full message regarding the postponement of CH.973
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Oda is fully recovered according to the official account .
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Eeh, don't get lead by media, Coronavirus is still just one of the one million viruses out there.
And people who die to it are mostly over 60 and/or having already existing immunity reducing conditions.
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Being a heavy smoker is a big factor as well, weakens the lungs very badly.
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The full message regarding the postponement of CH.973
Can someone fully translate this? I'll learn Japanese eventually. :getlost:
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Being a heavy smoker is a big factor as well, weakens the lungs very badly.
lol people smoke stronger stuff everyday and they're doing fine. It is not like we're doctors and we have his medical history and life style, diet..etc
Some worries are just over blown. People get sick, they take a few days off and get better then get back to work. If it was a serious health issue a proper announcement would have been made. They don't have any reason to hide his condition. -
Been hearing some things. I'm okay w/ Oda taking a 3 month break man. It ain't worth it. I can go w/o my fix. I might die, but it's ok
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It is not like we're doctors and we have his medical history and life style, diet..
You probably don't not a medical degree to make the assumption that a heavy smoking habit don't do wonders for a workaholic who lives in his studio and sleeps 3-4 hours a day
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You probably don't not a medical degree to make the assumption that a heavy smoking habit don't do wonders for a workaholic who lives in his studio and sleeps 3-4 hours a day
That is true, but is he really that heavy of a smoker? I knew a workaholic heavy smoker who died at 95+ and went senile a few years before his death, not saying that's the case for Oda, the point is it depends on the person, their physique and over all health..etc
Only his doctor can know all of that and Oda has no reason to hide his condition. If it was a serious issue he'd have taken a longer break. See Togashi and them.
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People really need to pay attention to what they post, no one needs rumors to be spread.
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That is true, but is he really that heavy of a smoker? I knew a workaholic heavy smoker who died at 95+ and went senile a few years before his death, not saying that's the case for Oda, the point is it depends on the person, their physique and over all health..etc
Only his doctor can know all of that and Oda has no reason to hide his condition. If it was a serious issue he'd have taken a longer break. See Togashi and them.
Oh i don't think there is anything majorly wrong with him. But based on those tidbits about his sleep and his preference for cigarettes and red bull and the generally sedentary work he does i would be suprised if he was in good shape. Burning the candle at both ends and fueling the fire with cigarettes and energy drink tends to catch up to you as you age.
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Can´t Oda simply have a cold once in a while?
I mean his schedule is pretty tight to get a chapter out every week in 6-7 days.
When you have a cold with headache etc it can take you out for 2-4 days, so him finishing a chpater is almost impossible.
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I hope it's nothing serious. It looks like still no One Piece Chapter next week.
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I hope it's nothing serious. It looks like still no One Piece Chapter next week.
Shit, i didn't realize that. I don't know anything about Oda's health, but I know three weeks without One Piece are typically my least favorites. Only 2 weeks left until the next chapter, I suppose…
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The prospect of another break is actually pretty worrying for one big reason: It's putting the release dates of the final chapters of this volume dangerously close to the actual volume release. Obviously the number of chapters in the volume is decided before they're fully drawn, but has there ever been a case of a volume release being delayed because of unexpected weekly breaks?
If there is another break, volume 96 is basically confirmed to have just ten chapters. With the break, the hypothetical eleventh chapter, chapter 975, would be coming out just days before the actual book, and I don't see the time it would have to be finished for the magazine as enough for the whole editing and printing process for the volume as well.