Movies that don't deserve their own thread
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Really looking forward to more Ryan Reynolds goodness on the big screen with this one:
I just hope it's not another The Voices which was so abhorrently disappointing compared to its trailer.
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There is a guy who found "all" the cuts in 1917
and he made another video, longer, in which he explains each cut in French
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Don't know exactly where to put this
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Don't know exactly where to put this
We did a thread for that years ago.
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Watched "Klaus" 2019 recently and it was really a charming animated movie.
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Welp, Indiana Jones 5 lost Spielberg, they should just cancel it now.
https://movieweb.com/indiana-jones-5-steven-spielberg-exits-director-james-mangold/?fbclid=IwAR0VH6cXh5Cx8kK__OYUoLKVuM599-ucMUzneJrgvWOQ3qc6DB7TPBl9kR8 -
Because Indy 4 was such a good film?
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I still don't understand the hate for that film. All I keep majorly hearing bad about is is that fridge/nuke scene, Shia Lebeof and the ending. I mean… I saw it, yeah Shia wouldn't have been my first choice for Mutt and it's a little slow in the middle. but everything else was alright and told competently. So it's not like the first three, one of my faves of the series is Temple of Doom and that's neither like Raiders and Last Crusade. So is this just another "hardcore fans, majorty rules" case here?
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All I keep majorly hearing bad about is is that fridge/nuke scene, Shia Lebeof and the ending.
You left out CG gophers.
It's not that those things singlehandedly ruin the movie, but they are emblamatic shorthands you can point to. Its all the problems of the movie distilled in a five second clip. You can talk about the weaknesses of the script, acting, action, direction, dialogue and go over the whole thing scene by scene like a Plinkett review… (but these things involve revisiting the movie to remind yourself) or you can just point out "there's a scene where he survives a NUKE by hiding in the fridge" and how preposterous and stupid that is exemplify the complete lack of care the entire project had from all involved.
Like, the batsuit having nipples isn't why Batman Forever and batman and Robin are terrible, nor is the bat credit card, but... you can sum it up in two words instead of gesturing wildly at the film as a whole. Or Jar Jar in episode 1 was actually the least of the film's problems but he's an over the top cartoon rabbit that steps in poop, so he's easy to point to.
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The fridge scene falls into a category where people just don't understand how goofy the material Indiana Jones was based on could really get. Watch a bunch of old serials and that scene pretty much becomes the obvious protagonist solution to that scenario.
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I still think having Aliens was a bad idea
I mean I know they had holy items and Vodoo but I think it's weird to suddenly go scifi
There's very few series/franchises I can think of that do both Fantasy and scifi well, hell all I can think of as examples is Marvel and DC comic universes and maybe Buffy the Vampire Slayer
it's just a hard thing to pull off
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Sci-fi is a better reflection of the late 1950s setting for that film than fantasy would have been though.
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I totally get what Ubiq is saying about how sci-fi is more fitting for the era the movie took place in, but replacing mysterious, holy artifacts with freaking aliens will never not feel like a stupid decision to me. I think that, more than anything truly ruined the film for me, though I wasn't really all that happy to begin with. I honestly just didn't want to see one of my childhood heroes as an old man anyway - it felt like the kind of thing that everybody thinks they want, but nobody is truly asking for actually. Also wasn't very keen on Shia Lebouef as the next generation Indy - if they had chosen an actor whom I could have seen carrying this franchise after Harrison Ford retired from the role, maybe I would have been more invested in the film in general.
The fridge scene, otoh, didn't bother me all that much. I mean, in Temple of Doom, they jumped out of a plane without a parachute, just an inflatable raft and survived. I don't expect much realism from these films, just an engaging story filled with adventure, fun and lovable main characters and a fun time watching it. Last Crusade provided none of these things for me. I didn't need another film in the franchise anyway, I was completely happy with the three films we got, and I certainly didn't want whatever this film tried to do.
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I'm watching Cool World. This thing is absolutely, unapologetically insane, and just about the horniest thing I've ever seen. It's…certainly unique. Oh, and its soundtrack KICKS ASS
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Just rewatched the first episode of Jackie Chan Adventures
Don’t ask why, I have no idea
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I somehow completely missed this trailer, but woohoo! Wes Anderson!
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For those who watch Good Omens and/or have read the book, today is the 30th anniversary of the book and they made us something special:
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Jordan Peele continues his trend of making nice songs into horrific tunes that will haunt your nightmares
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Do Rats in the Wall or bust man. That the only genuinely creepy story. The others ate meta creepy of tales of horror beyond human comprehension.
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Do Rats in the Wall or bust man. That the only genuinely creepy story. The others ate meta creepy of tales of horror beyond human comprehension.
I've never actually read an HP Lovecraft story, I thought he was a horror icon?
Although I've heard he's a terrible racist
But I was under the assumption that HP Lovecraft's stories were set in Victorian London, was I wrong? Or is this just a modern interpretation of his work?
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I've never actually read an HP Lovecraft story, I thought he was a horror icon?
He is a horror icon, yes, but from my experience reading his full works, Rats in The Wall was the only one to have a physiological effect after reading. The whole of cosmic horror genere is based on humanity being faced with thing it can barely comprehend or describe the the full extension of our knowledge. Just like Poe's thing was the macabre and the unreliable narrator on the verge of a nervous breakdown, Lovecraft's thing in the feelings of dread that humanity faces when confronted it a thing indescribable and completely above us in the evolutionary scale, at least for the Cthulhu mythos, I would argue that the Dream Land cycle is different.
Although I've heard he's a terrible racist
Just like any "enlightened" anglo-american of his time. Remember the time the irish, italians, polish and eastern europeans weren't truly white?
But I was under the assumption that HP Lovecraft's stories were set in Victorian London, was I wrong? Or is this just a modern interpretation of his work?
Sonny,that's Ser Edward Grey, the Witchfinder by Mike Mignola. The Chtulhu mythos take place in the Lovecraft Country, a semi-fictional part of New England, as the map bellow.
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Stupid Lovecraft. You're from Providence, why is all your scary places in Massachusetts?!
. . . . maybe that's why.
I've never actually read an HP Lovecraft story, I thought he was a horror icon?
Although I've heard he's a terrible racist
Quite the horror icon, and yes was pretty racist. Didn't seem to pollute his works that much, though.
The only Lovecraft story I've read is The Shadow Over Insmouth, and that's pretty damn creepy. Not scream-riffic or anything, but damn creepy.
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I've read most of his stuff. I'm still salty we never got that At the Mountains of Madness movie that Del Toro was supposedly working on (though it probably never got past pre-production). At the Mountains of Madness, Dreams in the Witch House, The Colour Out of Space, The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, and Dagon are some of my favorites, though I love the vast majority of his stuff, but it's been a while since I've read any of it so some of it's kind of hazy. Some people don't like him because his writing style can get a bit samey and that's true to some extent but I like it.
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I think most of the racist claims stream from the fact that his writing is based in the confrontation of the common man with concepts strange and foreign to him. And what concept can top that for a true breed american than the mass influx of migrants that hit the east coast in the late XIX century. The texts that are in fact have a dose of prejudice is Horror at the Red Hook, and maybe the fact that the main character of Rats in the Walls has a black cat called n-man, but lets just brush the fact that
! his ancient family were cannibals that breed a sub race of humans for consumption in their ancient castle. Sure the problematic aspect was indeed the cat. I mean very few call the racism in Murders in Rue Morgue, an there are mostly academical.
At the Mountains by Del Toro would be a blast, but Hollywood producers would say: " Ain't that just basically Carpenter's The Thing?"
I think the Randolph Carter cycle would be a pretty dope adult animation series. Or the heck just adapt Providence by Moore and make the grinch even more bitter that his writings are a commercially success.
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I've read most of his stuff. I'm still salty we never got that At the Mountains of Madness movie that Del Toro was supposedly working on (though it probably never got past pre-production).
The dream of every Lovecraftian and/or horror fan in general, (because who better for Lovecraft than Del Toro?), but the producers just couldn't let that R rating stand. Even though it, y'know, needed it.
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The dream of every Lovecraftian and/or horror fan in general, (because who better for Lovecraft than Del Toro?), but the producers just couldn't let that R rating stand. Even though it, y'know, needed it.
Didn't he had the blind penguin prop done or I was just hit with the Mandela effect.
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Just finished watching Color out of Space with Nic Cage, and surprise, surprise...it's not horrible. They jut went overboard with the purple, I known they can literally pull a colour out of the visible spectrum, but the could at least make it be a flickering multi chromatic entity. A better script wouldn't hurt either.
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Kind of randomly been on a John Carpenter kick for the last few weeks, so I thought I'd share my thoughts on some of his movies.
Halloween - Yeah, this is still a really effectively tense and creepy horror movie. The characters are pretty thin and I'm not sure why Michael Myers, a man who's been confined to a mental institution his whole life, is apparently superhuman, but it still works. And the soundtrack is tremendously effective in adding to the creep factor. It's iconic for a reason.
The Thing - Good, but not the best monster movie I've seen. Obviously the special effects and puppetry are amazing, but the story and characters didn't totally win me over. Part of the problem, I think, is that there seems to be no rules about who the Thing could or couldn't have absorbed. And I get that's the idea that it could be anybody, but I feel like that takes some of the tension away when anyone could have been infected at any time for no reason.
Escape from New York - Has a good atmosphere and Isaac Hayes gives a good performance as The Duke, but a lot of it feels like a fairly by-the-numbers action movie. Snake Pliskin is…cool? I guess? But at the same time he almost feels like a parody of an action hero. And Kurt Russell doesn't exactly have the most commanding presence as an action lead (which may be due the writing. I don't know).
They Live - The movie is just strange. Both in its tone and the decisions that were made while producing it. I mean, yeah, we've all heard about the aliens sending subliminal messages, the long fight scene with Keith David, and the nonsensical "Bubblegum" line. But, for instance, what strikes me as especially strange about the "Bubblegum" line is that it happens about 30 minutes into the movie, when I think it would make more sense to say it during the climax, since it doesn't really feel earned at that point. And on that note, Roddy Piper's character is really dumb in that as soon as he finds out about the aliens he starts blowing them away, guns a-blazing. Like, what did you think was gonna happen man? Oh well. Cool idea for a movie, just probably could've used a rewrite or two.
EDIT: For the record, I watched Big Trouble in Little China several years ago. I remember it being a fun goofy 80's movie, but a still bit weird and not fully realized in the writing department.
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Have you watched The Fog, Assault on Precinct 13, or Big Trouble in Little China as part of this?
Darkstar is one that's best to watchpaired with Alien or as a mini-marathon with those two and It! The Terror From Beyond Space in chronological order. Along similar lines, watching Halloween after Night of the Hunter and Psycho really adds to the effect since you can see the development of the modern slasher films.
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Have you watched The Fog, Assault on Precinct 13, or Big Trouble in Little China as part of this?
Darkstar is one that's best to watchpaired with Alien or as a mini-marathon with those two and It! The Terror From Beyond Space in chronological order. Along similar lines, watching Halloween after Night of the Hunter and Psycho really adds to the effect since you can see the development of the modern slasher films.
See my edited post for Big Trouble in Little China. Haven't seen the others.
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See my edited post for Big Trouble in Little China. Haven't seen the others.
If you've never seen either, I definitely would.
Both of them have moments that will stick with you so avoid spoilers as much as you can; one is early on for Precinct 13 and one is really late for The Fog.
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I just finished watching the TV Show Dollhouse, really liked it, would have liked to seen more of Alpha but overall it was really good
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Tenet got pushed back again, God Damn it
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Is anyone watching Hamilton when it comes onto Disney Plus
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Finally got around to watching Whiplash yesterday. A very well-acted and produced movie, but…man I'm not sure I like that ending.
I mean, I guess the real issue is that the movie itself isn't even sure what stance it's taking on Terence Fletcher. But, for my money, Terence is absolutely a villain. An utterly abusive asshole who heard one story Charlie Parker getting a cymbal thrown at him and suddenly he thinks that's the universal guide to success. Sure, maybe he has a bit of a point in how we've become overly-nurturing and rewarding of mediocrity, but he takes it way too far in the opposite direction. And he's kind of a sleazebag in general. I mean, this guy lies to his students about how a former student of his died, claiming he died in a car accident rather than committing suicide due to anxiety brought on by him.
Anyway, the bottom line is, the ending, I believe, is supposed to be a moment of triumph for Andrew in which he realizes his potential, surprising even Terence, and the two come to a sort of unspoken mutual understanding and respect. And, I'm like "No!" Terence does not deserve any sort of respect or satisfaction from this. Or, I dunno, maybe I'm misinterpreting the ending. If anyone wants to offer an alternative viewpoint, I'm listening.
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I'm still salty we never got that At the Mountains of Madness movie that Del Toro was supposedly working on (though it probably never got past pre-production).
Personally I'm much more disappointed in that Haunted Mansion reboot with Del Toro writing and producing that never came to fruition.
Especially among other live-action adaptions of Disney rides being green-lit, like The Jungle Cruise with the Rock.
It really is a damn shame & a tragedy.
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Do we have a thread for Comic Cons? We def should have since it’s online and free this time (or so I’ve heard) we can also discuss what events weRe most excited for
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watched Pastoral: To Die in the Country, amazing film. it clearly influenced anime like evangelion and revolutionary girl utena so if you like those you should watch it.
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Welp, Tenet just got delayed indefinitely.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/tenet-delayed-again-christopher-nolan-1234699068/
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They had a lot of money invested in this and don't want to bend by going the streaming service route. I kept saying they'd end up doing this. They tried to weather shit and gave in anyway.
The problem with pushing your movie back like most are is that people kinda lose interest. So, the more money you pour into it, the more resistant they are to cave in and just give up on a Summer release. Then there's the experience factor. Many studios and directors want their product to be experienced in the theater.
What does it say if you're wiling to send your customers into large groups? Capitalist don't care for nothing, but your dollar, but the trick is to not broadcast that. Struggling to not push your release all the way back did not go unnoticed. How many of these retailers kept telling you via email to come out to their "safe" stores in May or June? Some peep, some didn't
Most complaining about the American "lockdown" don't understand that a more strict lockdown is coming as these deaths keep increasing in the more populated states. So many countries not allowing Americans in and some states that don't have that many cases aren't allowing in NYers.
I really wanted to see Tenet, even if it isn't in IMAX, I want it that bad
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I somehow completely forgot that Guillermo de Toro had a movie called Antlers coming out, which got delayed, but he was nice enough to do a panel for Stay-at-Home Comic-Con for the fans:
https://movieweb.com/antlers-featurette-comic-con-at-home-panel/?fbclid=IwAR1HV__41vzYjSNdy4ZZ_FEgYlgbdvJASDs9HVVBFD4eSVN50m21KTWqPgwI hate horror movies, but if there's one guy who can get me to watch, it's del Toro.
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Just watched Unbelievable!!!!! Which is a 40-60's sci-fi parody, certainly inspired by Zappa's Cheepnis in regards to it's visual and special effects, which is exactly what a parody of B movies should aim.
It didn't reach the highs of Black Dynamite, but it's still a fun watch. It falls under it's so bad that's actually enjoyable. -
Frankenstein's Monster's Monster, Frankenstein is also a short movie that falls on the category of being so gaucy that s good.
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watched the master, this is what zero pussy does to a mf
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Lovecraft Country is getting good reviews and comes out tomorrow
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Isn't that a series, not a movie?
There's been some interesting stuff on Netflix lately. I've seen two in particular that are worth mentioning:
The Old Guard. Charlize Theron leads a team of immortals (think Highlander, but I don't think even beheading would keep them down permanently; it's never brought up) who act as mercenaries and have throughout the centuries, though they're all very world-weary. A new immortal surfaces and they're drawn to one another though for that newcomer, it's quite a shock and an adjustment. It's hard to take seriously something with those kinds of stakes since if they can't die, there's no risk to them, but it's still pretty well put-together.
One I just watched today, Project Powers, definitely FELT like it would merit being a series rather than a movie. Basically what if there was a superpower drug that gives people a five-minute window to unleash a random ability (though each person has a specific ability they get, the same person won't get a different random power each time they use it…kinda confusing how they explain it.) How does it affect the police, drug dealers, and everyone caught in the middle. It gets pretty derivative but it was fun to see how they structured everything. Apparently it's supposedly a rip-off of a movie made in India or something? But Jamie Foxx does a good job, and while I hate Joseph Gordon Levitt's guts, he does a good job too.
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watched hana-bi, damn takeshi kitano really doesn't miss