If Jinbe dies after these ten-odd years of pulling our chains, I'll kill 'im.
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Jinbe dying is something I can see happening because he does have death flags on him and he keeps repeating how much he is willing to die at every possible opportunity he gets. But that would be an EoS thing, not before even getting to travel with the crew. That'd be just a dick move by Oda.
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Between Robin and Nami and because he's there I forgot to mention.
Is there a reason why he got banned? Can"t remember him being bad poster.
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Must be because he just assumed he knew about certain things in One Piece despite having stopped reading at some point.
Also, Power Scaling is a sin.
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Is there a reason why he got banned? Can"t remember him being bad poster.
I seem to have banned him as a bot yesterday but it might have been my mistake. I've lifted the ban for now.
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I absolutely love Kawamatsus design, but I dont think he will join.
He got that ”icon/mascot” look.Is chopper a joke to you?
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Jinbe is not dying for duty since Oda pretty much underlined that joining the Strawhats is finally something he will mostly do for himself and is not duty bound.
Of course you can argue part of the reason why he follows Luffy is still his wish to see the fishman race get accepted and rise to the surface, but he also wholeheartedly laughed and enjoyed himself on the ship, Oda will not take that away for a death that makes no narrative sense.Luffy had his emotional and mental challenge in Shabondy and Marineford, it´s done.
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I wonder of Carrot being 15 lessens the chance of her being a grand fleet captain
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Kawamatsu is too close to jinbe IMO. At least if you're making the carrot = chopper comparison you should be able to see the jinbe = kawamatsu especially if he is indeed a fishman
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Also Jinbe isnt dying. Him claiming to give his life is basically a meta running joke now.
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Kawamatsu also looks like a mix of Zoro and Chopper Kung Fu point.
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It'd be cool if Jinbe died and came back as a ghost who solves mysteries.
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I wonder of Carrot being 15 lessens the chance of her being a grand fleet captain
Uhm… I don't think so. But it doesn't increase them either, it's more like it puts emphasis on something I already had issues with. She is not fit for that kind of role because she's immature and inexperienced and there's not much on the idea of her becoming a leader of a crew in the short term. A short age (which honestly wasn't really unexpected though I would have gone with 16-17 maybe, something more normal in the OP world) fits her personality but it was her personality in the first place what didn't make her a good fit for that role for starters.
Also agreed, poor Jinbe is not dying. He will brag about dying till the end of his days... probably in his retirement home in Neo Sabaody, 60 years from now.
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Uhm… I don't think so. But it doesn't increase them either, it's more like it puts emphasis on something I already had issues with. She is not fit for that kind of role because she's immature and inexperienced and there's not much on the idea of her becoming a leader of a crew in the short term. A short age (which honestly wasn't really unexpected though I would have gone with 16-17 maybe, something more normal in the OP world) fits her personality but it was her personality in the first place what didn't make her a good fit for that role for starters.
Also agreed, poor Jinbe is not dying. He will brag about dying till the end of his days... probably in his retirement home in Neo Sabaody, 60 years from now.
All the Grand Fleet captains are a bunch of whackjobs anyway, so personality is hardly an issue. Lack of experience could be because all the others (except Ideo I guess) had some experience in a leadership position, but even that's only because they all had their crews when we met them. They all had to start somewhere. Most of them didn't really show any particular skill in terms of leadership. Nothing really stops Carrot from finding a bunch of like-minded minks and forming the New Nox Pirates or something, like Hajrudin did. And people might accept her as a leader because she's Pedro's disciple and has Sulong at such a young age, or because she's a ruler aide or whatever.
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All the Grand Fleet captains are a bunch of whackjobs anyway, so personality is hardly an issue. Lack of experience could be because all the others (except Ideo I guess) had some experience in a leadership position, but even that's only because they all had their crews when we met them. They all had to start somewhere. Most of them didn't really show any particular skill in terms of leadership. Nothing really stops Carrot from finding a bunch of like-minded minks and forming the New Nox Pirates or something, like Hajrudin did. And people might accept her as a leader because she's Pedro's disciple and has Sulong at such a young age, or because she's a ruler aide or whatever.
Nothing does, of course. It's just something I don't see clearly right now. But maybe, eh, though I think it would need some sort of development that would be nice to see unfold, like Carrot right now isn't even close to showing leadership. Perhaps precisely through Pedro's words and will.
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All the Grand Fleet captains are a bunch of whackjobs anyway, so personality is hardly an issue. Lack of experience could be because all the others (except Ideo I guess) had some experience in a leadership position, but even that's only because they all had their crews when we met them. They all had to start somewhere. Most of them didn't really show any particular skill in terms of leadership. Nothing really stops Carrot from finding a bunch of like-minded minks and forming the New Nox Pirates or something, like Hajrudin did. And people might accept her as a leader because she's Pedro's disciple and has Sulong at such a young age, or because she's a ruler aide or whatever.
That's precisely it. Carrot will learn responsibility when she passes Pedro's will to Dog and Cat. She will stop being so naive, and with a grander purpose in mind, will help the Straw Hats, just like all the other fleet captains will do when the time is right.
Maybe the latest map from Wano isn't canon. However, Carrot was given an image almost equal in size to Dog, while Wanda and the other Musketeer captains had a barely visible one and shared. Seniority means nothing. Experience? I mean, did Luffy have experience as a leader? Does he have it now? Luffy has gained some sense of responsibility, but at the same time, while everyone else wanted to infiltrate silently, Luffy breaks down Doflamingo's castle gates. Or when he decides to check out Enies Lobby, and jumps off the train before anyone else.
Luffy is good at leading the charge and drawing attention to himself so everyone else can focus on their task. But time and time again when things need to have a plan, or some sort of organization. This task is always relegated to Nami or recently Jimbe, anyone but Luffy.
In other words, whatever Carrot lacks as a leader is easily compensated by her crew. One of the key points during Arlong Park when Luffy describes what he is not good at. Not to mention she already learned the harsh truths in terms of weakness by losing Pedro, same way Luffy did with Ace.
See, I think that when discussing whom could be the Mink Captain for the Grand Fleet, there is a bias as we immediately consider, with reason, the candidates that are currently in said leader roles. However, if we look back through Zou, WCI, we can clearly see a distinction between Carrot, Pedro and even Pekoms and Wanda + other minks. It's initiative. Which, besides charisma, is probably the only requirement for being a captain in One Piece. The reason I could never see Wanda and the others is this scene:
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[/hide]Pedro got lucky as he needed to keep Pekoms in check. However, all these other Minks, some whom could be candidates for captaincy, all followed orders. No one had the initiative, like Carrot, to sneak on board of the ship. That's why she will be the one to lead them. She is young, dreamy, adventurous, someone that the other Minks can look up to. A young Mink capable of Sulong, these people will want to help her grow even further in the right direction.
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https://i5.mangareader.net/one-piece/822/one-piece-7344841.jpg[/hide]No one had the initiative, like Carrot, to sneak on board of the ship.
Nakama material. I remember bringing this up
Yikes, he deleted it. Pekoms was an actual Nox Pirate, so he makes more sense than Carrot. If anything, Carrot could be a Nox crew member. I don't see her as a captain
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Jajajaja yikes? Jajajaja
"Nah, it is captain material."
I deleted the post because it didn't add anything to the discussion that the previous long ass post had not done already. And your initial reply did not warrant any sort of response to begin with. As you simply took one sentence, out of the middle of a paragraph and did not make any form of rebuttal to any of the points I made anyways. You just said: this is nakama material.
Now that you edited your reply…
Pekoms will also be a Nox captain, the same way the previous Nox had two captains. The new one will also have two. Carrot might even be the one to help Pekoms from now on when he loses control during Sulong.
Pekoms and Carrot both inherited Pedro's will.
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Carrot is about to be a captain? lol
You don't have to explain yourself, it's just a deletion btw.
Most of your essay was comparisons with Luffy and it stem from Carrot taking initiative. That's 1 piece of proof to back up being a Captain. So you basically made that excessively long post for nothing. I saw something that I had already brought up as 1 of my 3 points and highlighted it. I wasn't refuting your case in any capacity, but now that you bring it up…
Being impulsive like Luffy isn't enough proof to back up her being a Captain and using Pedro's will. Good try tho. 2 more points of manga proof and you would've had me questioning if it was possible.
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Oh nooo, 2 more points?! But I only have one more!!
Yes, Carrot becoming a captain is what Segokusgoat and I were talking about.
You pointed out the deletion, so I just posted it back for whomever was curious what it had been.
Let's see, I talk about:
Responsibility: How Carrot will mature as a character once she understands Pedro's will fully, and she will be less naive, and seek a more active role in the Dawn.
Seniority: I make a counterargument as to why this characteristic does not matter in terms of a new captain. Brooke and Jimbe are seniors to Luffy but the latter is still their captain. And that even the senior members of the Mink tribe currently in Wano share a square in comparison to Carrot that has her own.
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Leadership: I make a point that there are different types of leadership, and that Carrot falls under the one Luffy is in. Moreover, that whatever she does not have will be compensated by the members of her crew. Something we knew since the beginning, but that was made explicit during Arlong Park. For example: Pekoms can assist with his pirating experience, Wanda could help with organization, the nurse Chopper likes for a doctor, the Gorilla and Ox for additional muscle, the Sheep for a good night sleep. The little Monkey Mink for an additional lookout position while Carrot sleeps, he even has a spyglass!
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[/hide]Funny, Carrot and Luffy are both not good with swords…FORESHADOWING.
Then I talk about initiative, and how when predicting whom will be the Mink captain we inevitably look at characters currently in positions of leadership. Which is fair, but I am trying to point out that Carrot has the potential to succeed in becoming a perfectly capable leader in her own way. Also making a minor point that she already has suffered a defeat comparable to what Luffy and Ace had. Which can make a character grow.
Another common counter argument to her becoming a captain is that: "this is the new world, what could she possibly do?". Well she seems to be a pretty good lookout so she can anticipate and get out of dangerous situations, and she did disarm an emperor's fleet. Seems good enough to lead a small crew under the new emperor's banner.
All in all, the only thing impeding Carrot from going out to sea is if she wants it or not. That is the only requirement established in One Piece. If Barto can go out while sticking chewing gum on deck and all the other nonsense we saw while they traveled to Zou, all I am saying is that the bar isn't really set that high.
But, I will try to make 3 points next time.
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1. Responsibility adds up, so nice.
2. Seniority is backing up responsibility, but i'll take it.
3. Already talked about leadership, so cool
Everything else is just expounding on what you've already said. This looks more presentable tho, so good job.
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The lookout pirates would be a better name.
The dreaded "lookout queen" Carrot
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Personally I think his design could fit very well alongside the Strawhats, as far as Wano goes. More than Jinbe anyways, who I still regard as a 'untouchable' character. Jinbe feels like NPC material because he's so established-to-be-strong, and if they just let Zoro and Sanji overshadow him in power and growth then it gets weird. He's not like any other Strawhat Ally, who have all been newcomers and underdogs.
Kawamatsu has that underdog characteristic going for him. He looks quirky and not intimidating at all, and that speaks for most of the Strawhat designs. They're very easy on the eyes, as quirky as some designs may be. Even Brook is hardly a 'scary skeleton', he's a very comical looking skeleton. In terms of design, Jinbei looks monstrous and serious all the time. If I were to choose between the two, I would pick Kawamatsu's design as a 'Aquatic' crewmate.
I'm not looking to be right or wrong, I'm just giving my opinion on how I see the character designs.
I used to see Jimbei that way but after reviewing his history, feats and accomplishmens(or lack there of) I could see Oda went out of his way to make sure readers wouldn't think he wasn't putting a Mihawk or Kizaru in the crew. The term War Lord or Shichibukai tends to cloud peoples judgement but his whole life was just one set back after another.
1 - We were introduced to a captured Jimbei. One who didn't willingly let himself get detained like Zoro.
2 - For all his War Lord power we've seen glimpses of his past where even he couldn't stop pirates from kidnapping his people from Fishman Island.
3 - Upon meeting Luffy he kept downplaying his own strength on land.
4 - He didn't take on Magellan like 5th Emperor Luffy or Revolutionary Commander of the Grand Line Ivankov.
5 - He couldn't keep White Beard or Ace from being killed.
6 - He couldn't keep Luffy or himself from getting burned up by Akainu.
7 - We know he feels he can't accomplish his own goals with out some Emperor and now specifically Luffy.Those are just minor things that kept certain portrayals in check. Aside from say Buggy and arguably Mihawk(because he seems to be a pure swordsman) Jimbei is the only War Lord without some absolute 1HKO hax type of ability. Hancock, Crocodile, Law, Doflamingo, Moria and Kuma each have an ability or two that are completely over the top for most opponents and would be no fun to follow for a main cast member. Of course that reasoning is mostly arbitrary but Jimbei still has no instant dry out, petrify stoning, puppet control, shadow ripping, or personality swap/instant body dismembering.
Don't forget both Zoro and Robin were much more famous/notorious than Luffy when he first encountered them. Beyond Ohara, Robin was the right hand woman of a War Lord and Zoro was sought out by the same War Lord to join his crew. Thats how newcomerish they were to a larger part of the world. Jimbei may have been a War Lord and allied with multiple Emperors but in the world of One Piece he is an underdog simply because he is a Fishman. A minority that is looked down upon in the eyes of the highest authority in the world.
And heres our first look at the Zoro/Sanji/Jimbei dynamic.
Jimbei has been at the piracy game for more than 10 years with a 438,000,000B bounty. In under 3 years as a pirate Zoro has a 320,000,000B bounty and Sanji sitting at 330,000,000B. They catchin' up reputation wise and are almost definitely(if not soon to be) on par with him fighting wise. Now it's not as if he won't grow along the way because he will but because he's been around the block just a little bit it will probably be a slower growth. I mean the time skip took care of a lot of that disparity.
As for looks he does have a monstrous appearance but over the years his features have grown softer. Take a look at his introduction panel. Thinner, sickle like tusks and sharper teeth. Now his teeth are wider, not as pointy and he's been seen in several relaxed atmospheres. Jimbei may look more monstrous than the most of the crew but he is no Arlong or Hodi with that round tubby like build thats for sure.
I mean you look at Zoro, especially in battle mode and the man looks absolutely ferocious. His muscular build, the one eye and the constant frown I'd argue give Zoro an even scarier vibe than Jimbei. Jimbei just has sharp teeth and big mouth. Just one big cuddly Goomba.
Jinbe dying is something I can see happening because he does have death flags on him and he keeps repeating how much he is willing to die at every possible opportunity he gets. But that would be an EoS thing, not before even getting to travel with the crew. That'd be just a dick move by Oda.
Death Flags… ugh. I guess thats just the best term but I remember scoping out Oro Jackson's New Cremate thread 2 or 3 years ago when Jimbei made his speech to his crew mates about how he wanted to follow Luffy even if he dies for him and that word was parroted around so much it was ridiculous. People do it here but Jesus Burgess how annoying was that? Especially since it turned out to be super wrong.
Terms, words or phrases that the community latch on to that rub my apples the wrong way are as follows: Death Flag, proper story telling, thematically(I'm watching you Count!), hit the nail on the head.
It'd be cool if Jinbe died and came back as a ghost who solves mysteries.
HAHAHA! Would he ride in some hippy boat with 4 other friends plus a dog? Or would they form a band as well?
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That line of argument hardly works when Oda let Robin join, a character whose strength literally overshadowed both Sanji and Zoro, who had a higher bounty than Zoro for two arcs and higher than Sanji until Zou.
And regarding appearance, both Sanji and Zoro fit the traditional badass looking mofos, so Jinbe looking monstrous and serious? Yep no issue.
If you do not like these things, different issue, but argument against Jinbe? They are not.
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Talented and high profile voice actress Megumi Han for the next crewmate Tama!
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Talented and high profile voice actress Megumi Han for the next crewmate Tama!
Let's not forget they casted Megumi Hayashibara for Rebecca. But I think it's fair to assume she's a major character that will get plenty of screentime during the arc at least. And Komurasaki is voiced by Nana Mizuki. She's pretty high-profile too, right ?
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Let's not forget they casted Megumi Hayashibara for Rebecca. But I think it's fair to assume she's a major character that will get plenty of screentime during the arc at least. And Komurasaki is voiced by Nana Mizuki. She's pretty high-profile too, right ?
I cant pretend I know everything about VAs, so I wont. xD
However, while a high profile VA might not mean that much, a low profile VA would make her seem less likely to join.
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That line of argument hardly works when Oda let Robin join, a character whose strength literally overshadowed both Sanji and Zoro, who had a higher bounty than Zoro for two arcs and higher than Sanji until Zou.
And regarding appearance, both Sanji and Zoro fit the traditional badass looking mofos, so Jinbe looking monstrous and serious? Yep no issue.
If you do not like these things, different issue, but argument against Jinbe? They are not.
Well it depends on what your response is being directed at.
At this point, there are no arguments against Jinbe because Luffy says he's his captain. Which means Jinbe isn't a rule-breaker, he's a rule-maker now. If for whatever reason fans assumed that 'no Strawhat should be able to breathe underwater' then Jinbe is not simply the exception to the rule, he is the rule. That's kinda how it all works with each new Strawhat member.
In terms of his monstrous look, I think I made my case pretty clear that it's purely opinion. I mean, even personal feeling aside, Jinbei was not very high on polls until recently. He went underlooked for years, and few people really would have expected and discussed him as a crewmember. It's only in retrospect and analyzing that we get a better understanding of what it means to be a Strawhat. And even then, I don't think it's ever as simple as we see it or expect it to be.
I still think he looks monstrous, despite what Oda feels is appropriate as a design. I think Jinbei's design is definitely cool as a character and as a Shichibukai, but I do think he clashes with some of the other characters.
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Well it depends on what your response is being directed at.
At this point, there are no arguments against Jinbe because Luffy says he's his captain. Which means Jinbe isn't a rule-breaker, he's a rule-maker now. If for whatever reason fans assumed that 'no Strawhat should be able to breathe underwater' then Jinbe is not simply the exception to the rule, he is the rule. That's kinda how it all works with each new Strawhat member.
In terms of his monstrous look, I think I made my case pretty clear that it's purely opinion. I mean, even personal feeling aside, Jinbei was not very high on polls until recently. He went underlooked for years, and few people really would have expected and discussed him as a crewmember. It's only in retrospect and analyzing that we get a better understanding of what it means to be a Strawhat. And even then, I don't think it's ever as simple as we see it or expect it to be.
I still think he looks monstrous, despite what Oda feels is appropriate as a design. I think Jinbei's design is definitely cool as a character and as a Shichibukai, but I do think he clashes with some of the other characters.
That´s not the issue, i mean that even without the confirmation in the manga, these are not arguments against him considering he is not the first one to represent those aspects, like i said, happened before, so in that sense, he is not a rulemaker.
He is certainly the first one whose relationship with Luffy has been built up over several different arcs, yet his joining has been dragged on until this point, and if people interpret this as something that suggest he is not ultimately joining, i can´t dispute that at this point, since i really have no idea where Oda is going with this, but that´s really the only thing objectively legitimate at this point that differentiates him from the rest of the crew. -
That´s not the issue, i mean that even without the confirmation in the manga, these are not arguments against him considering he is not the first one to represent those aspects, like i said, happened before, so in that sense, he is not a rulemaker.
He is certainly the first one whose relationship with Luffy has been built up over several different arcs, yet his joining has been dragged on until this point, and if people interpret this as something that suggest he is not ultimately joining, i can´t dispute that at this point, since i really have no idea where Oda is going with this, but that´s really the only thing objectively legitimate at this point that differentiates him from the rest of the crew.Perhaps im still not being clear enough?
I said Jinbei is as good as joined.
I also think his design doesn't fit as a strawhat as a personal opinion, not as an argument that he is not joining.
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Jinbei looks pretty adorable to me
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I remember when people thought Franky and Brook were too weird looking for the crew. I remember when I used to think Robin didn't look weird enough. I was so disappointed with Jimbei's design initially and now I'm like, big fat guy with sharp teeth, blue skin in a Kimono? He's my bae and totally a Straw Hat.
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I remember back when I thought Chopper was too damn weird to be a main character and was going to ruin everything.
Of course, I'd only seen his plushy form at the time and not his other transformation, but…
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Jinbe is awesome
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I absolutely loved Jinbe's design from the get go. We all expected an enemy, big white shark guy with many teeth, something more similar to Hody. But fat kimono chief was always a great design. He is easily one of my top 3 strawhats
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… Well I hate him.
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The best thing about Jinbe being an undeniable strawhat is I now know for sure who my least favorite strawhat will always be. Which sounds terrible, but I'm more just neutral on him while I love the others. Jinbe's basically the perfect poster character for the camp of one piece characters I have no strong feelings for, positive or negative.
Hadn't really noticed, but apparently at some point I stopped thinking of Jinbe as "Too strong and would ruin the power dynamic of the Strawhats" and started thinking of him as just "That high defense tanky big boy." He's really good at blocking and hitting really big, slow/immobile targets. Could be forgetting some moments though.
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I really liked Jinbe's character from the start, and it was clear that he was inevitably heading in the direction of Nakama-hood from back in Fishman Island…
Having said that, I don't think Jinbe ever really "clicked" with me as being Strawhat material until the Totland arc... I was willing to give him a chance before, but THAT'S when Oda truly sold me on him.
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WCI was what sold me on Jinbe, too. I think it's because that's when he really got to show what he really added to the crew and how his dynamic on the ship would work.
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Just cause he doesn't fit into your Cali centric beauty standard
Nonsense he'd make very beautiful poke ingredients.
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Am I seriously the only one who thought Jimbei was a shoe-in from the time they got out of Impel Down?
Also I think his appearance works because it sets him apart as wholly unique among the other Straw Hats.
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Am I seriously the only one who thought Jimbei was a shoe-in from the time they got out of Impel Down?
Also I think his appearance works because it sets him apart as wholly unique among the other Straw Hats.
Nah, I think some people were rooting for him to join before he even got shown believe it or not
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For me, him summoning that squadron of Whale Sharks to help ferry everyone out safely was the clincher. Knowing what we did about Fishmen already made him a highly viable candidate, and his mastery of Fishman Karate was another strong indicator. Once he showed that he went above and beyond the abilities of any other Fishman we'd seen at the time, there was no way it could have been anyone else in my eyes, and he just continued to prove himself every time we saw him from then on. I do have to admit, at first his appearance and size put me off but the second I saw him in action, he started growing on me and I could even see me calling a plushie of him 'cute' if I saw one when I go browsing through Japantown.
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Just cause he doesn't fit into your Cali centric beauty standard
Or through the Sunny's doors.
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Or through the Sunny's doors.
Wouldn't Franky have the same problem for the most part? He may not be quite as tall but he's still broad as hell with those shoulders.
I still maintain that Sunny should have some towing chains for Jimbei to grab onto and drag the ship behind him if they ever get into a jam. Caribou's ship used Mohmoo for that so I'm sure Jimbei could do a much better job of it. Maybe get one with a shark cage attached to it so he can also sleep in the water without being left behind if there's no room on the ship for him.
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Wouldn't Franky have the same problem for the most part? He may not be quite as tall but he's still broad as hell with those shoulders.
I still maintain that Sunny should have some towing chains for Jimbei to grab onto and drag the ship behind him if they ever get into a jam. Caribou's ship used Mohmoo for that so I'm sure Jimbei could do a much better job of it. Maybe get one with a shark cage attached to it so he can also sleep in the water without being left behind if there's no room on the ship for him.
It's just a joke, but Franky can probably just turn sideways and get through the doors like that, lol.
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Am I seriously the only one who thought Jimbei was a shoe-in from the time they got out of Impel Down?
I was convinced on him pretty early on.
Nah, I think some people were rooting for him to join before he even got shown believe it or not
It was less "rooting for", and more "looking at the story and how Oda has handled this, I think he's going to join."
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Am I seriously the only one who thought Jimbei was a shoe-in from the time they got out of Impel Down?
Also I think his appearance works because it sets him apart as wholly unique among the other Straw Hats.
Some people thought it might lead there as soon as Jinbe was shown in Impel Down and we saw his actual attitude being completely different than Arlong´s for example.
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Some people thought it might lead there as soon as Jinbe was shown in Impel Down and we saw his actual attitude being completely different than Arlong´s for example.
Everything after that made him more and more compelling in that regard, though for me personally, it was teh Marineford aftermath that did it, meaning seeing Jinbe being Luffy´s savior mentally.Yeah me too. Before that I wouldn't hear any argument from Brennen or Robby. I basically just wanted someone different looking. Then that super emotional "I still have my crew" moment and I was instantly sold. Then everything Brennen brought up before Jimbei was even seen on panel made sense.