Besides Lao G dying and coming back, everyone else should stay dead.
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If Monet is dead, she and Vergo would be the first villains to die in One Piece
So those mountain bandits in the very first chapter aren't villians?
Monet and Vergo are alive but Shanks is going to die.
Arlong not dying after being beaten by the heroic protagonist and someone who's disembodied heart was stabbed by an evil child poisoner are two entirely different scenarios that occured at drastically different points in time.
Crocodile was never an anti-hero, at best he only helped Luffy escape strictly to put a thumb in the eye of the marines. The world government is the biggest threat and keeping any others who oppose them alive is a strategically sound move for someone who wishes to conquer the world. There's nothing heroic about him, he's strictly an intelligent villain who knows when to make advantageous alliances.
There's no way Shanks is dying. Luffy already lost Ace, it would be completely redundant from a story telling standpoint and totally contrary to your own point here:
@Robby:He realized more implicitly by that point that he had a young audience, and that every character could end up being someone's favorite. Plus, he loves all his characters, and he had a bad experience watching Fist of the North Star when his favorite character in that died, so…
You can't just say two villians that got chopped up, stabbed in the heart and left to die in an exploding factory full of death gas are alive, then go around and proclaim that one of the first introduced, most powerful, most popular characters in the series is going to die just because other series kill off mentors. (which really, Shanks isn't even one to begin with, he's more of a rolemodel or idol)
Futhermore, why does there need to be a line drawn in the sand where anyone with certain qualities absolutely must live for die? This manga has never been that binary or formulaic to a point where everything has to be put neatly filed away into columns and rows like that.
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They're dead. I don't understand why is that so hard for some to accept… There's logically no way they could have survived the predicaments they were in nor is there any indication they survived. "It's Oda" isn't a solid enough argument to believe they somehow still survived when-
A) Oda has been more lenient about killing characters
B) The reason he gave for why he didn't usually kill of characters is so he could draw parties at the end which he did anyways
C) If they really did survive then the best time to reveal that would have been when Doflamingo arrived on Punk Hazard. If they were alive surely they would have participated in the only other arc their crew would be relevant in...I remember the naysayers being confident that they'd get a cover story lol
And Vergo & Monet wouldn't be able to break anybody out of impel down. I highly doubt they could get anywhere near it let alone go to Doflamingo's (whom Magellan is personally guarding) level and successfully get him out.
Bon Clay would be more capable to do so, he lives there, knows the ground and participated in a huge prison break, tho Vergo attacking Impel Down from outside might increase Bon chances to escape releasing Doula for his benefit.
Well, as far as we can tell, Pedro's dead, so there's hope for Oda to start killing folks in real-time and not just flashbacks.
Robby put it better than I ever could on why Monet and vergo are still alive, also I'm certain (although it's an unpopular theory) that pedro is still alive too
but what I'd like to clarifiy is why I think Vergo will break him out, your all; talking about fighting Magellan or sneaking around him and carefully escaping but you've all forgotten that smoker swore not to out Vergo to Law, that means in the eyes of the Marines he's stilla high ranking member he can easily go on a marine vessal go to impel down and say he has orders to take Doflamingo with him , no one is going to question a Vice Admiral on that
I'm not saying it's 100 perecnt going to happen but I could see it falling that way
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Yeah I believe that Vergo can survive the explosion easy. I would love a cover story of him gathering his body parts blown away Iron Giant style.
As for Monet I am a partisan of the third camp. She did get stabbed. But she also survived because ….why not it's One Piece.
Cracker is dead though
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Yeah I believe that Vergo can survive the explosion easy. I would love a cover story of him gathering his body parts blown away Iron Giant style.
As for Monet I am a partisan of the third camp. She did get stabbed. But she also survived because ….why not it's One Piece.
Cracker is dead though
Well they already did a cover arc of Buggy doing a body-part-reunification story so I doubt there'd be another one about the same subject.
But it would stand to reason that, given how Whitebeard and Ace's passing came at the door to the New World, there should be more maturity in that regard now that the Straw Hats are in the NW. Perma-death can't be ruled out anymore. It has to be considered that cases of Off-Screen-Itis are potentially fatal after all.
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I mean, Snack didn't die either after being defeated by Urouge…though that Supernova's fate is still unknown (and I was counting on him showing up at some point during WCI), nor did Katakuri after being beaten by Luffy, so any of the Big Mom family bad guys' deaths aren't really logically assumed.
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though that Supernova's fate is still unknown (and I was counting on him showing up at some point during WCI)
Urouge is recovering from his wounds at the Balloon terminal (the place where Kaido jumped from).
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You can't just say two villians that got chopped up, stabbed in the heart and left to die in an exploding factory full of death gas are alive, then go around and proclaim that one of the first introduced, most powerful, most popular characters in the series is going to die just because other series kill off mentors. (which really, Shanks isn't even one to begin with, he's more of a rolemodel or idol)
I'm not predicting it because other series kill mentors. I'm predicting it because Shanks got his scars from Blackbeard, tried to stop Ace from fighting him, and has now gone to see the leaders of the world government about him. Shanks has been trying to stop Blackbeard for a decade in real world time and in basically every appearance he's had since.
He is going to have to actually face off against BB at some point. And the fact that he IS one of the strongest characters in the series is against him. It hypes BB up to defeat him, and raises the overall stakes, and takes away one of Luffy's strongest allies. That will have actual story weight and ramifications, affecting both the world and Luffy, as opposed to randoms Luffy will never hear about where their deaths contribute nothing to the narrative.
Shanks being out will be a world shaking event. Just like defeating Kaidou. There IS story purpose to it. And major ramifications for our main character.
Futhermore, why does there need to be a line drawn in the sand where anyone with certain qualities absolutely must live for die? This manga has never been that binary or formulaic to a point where everything has to be put neatly filed away into columns and rows like that.
The story has been incredibly straighforward and predictable in the broad strokes. We can't predict things like character quirks or powers, people we've never me, because those are the sort of things Oda makes up on the spot… and we also can't predict secrets or big twists Oda has explicitly kept from us, because... he's hidden them. But the actual story structure, where things are going in a year, or five years, he's been playing completely fair with and dropping clues along the way and making a cohesive story we can see the pieces of.
One Piece is absolutely predictable. In the long term.
Its funny that Pell became the symbol of Oda never killing anyone, when he's in the same arc as the Duck Guardians that kill themselves against Crocodile.
Sure. But that's pretty much the last threshold for when Oda allowed characters to die. ABout 4 years into the series. Past that point anyone without a name is immortal, and anyone with a name is allowed to come back from near death unless it has major story ramifications. Oda changed his approach and storyteling around that point, so you can't really use anything prior to that to showcase his no death policy. I mean, Zoro killed the two cat pirates and in theory a lot of the guys on whiskey peak, and the Red Hairs killed guys in the first chapter. The first few years Oda was much more 80's manga about death in the series.
So those mountain bandits in the very first chapter aren't villians?
See above. Oda treated death differently the first couple years. Then he more solidly realized his target audience. Skypeia used to be the last place he allowed people to die rampantly, but Bellamy being alive pushes it back to mid Alabasta.
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Was Mr. 11 mentioned already?
See above.
Worth noting that Mr. 9 was dead for a decade until he showed up in cover story with a kid.
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I don't remember that bit of dialogue. I reread chapter 442 (where they're on the ship, playing around until they find the barrel and Brook) but there's no mention of Merry's soul (/spirit). So, what scene(s) are you referring to exactly?
When they pull out the Mini-Merry and Chopper exclaims Merry is alive again, Franky saved her.
Again, Oda doesn't straight up say "The spirit that animated the old boat has moved to this one" and he plays it in a way that can be interpreted as just "honoring the memory"… but it's Oda. He's saying it as blatantly as possible without shortchanging the entire previous arc or diminishing everything that happened with Usopp. I figure we'll get it explicitly spelled out late in the series.
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Were there any lines in the manga that mr 9 died or is it just him and miss monday getting exploded and us not seeing what happened to them
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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Sure. But that's pretty much the last threshold for when Oda allowed characters to die. ABout 4 years into the series. Past that point anyone without a name is immortal
Nero died during W7.
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Were there any lines in the manga that mr 9 died or is it just him and miss monday getting exploded and us not seeing what happened to them
That's exactly what happened.
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Urouge is recovering from his wounds at the Balloon terminal (the place where Kaido jumped from).
Really? How do I miss those details so often? Things like that and when it was mentioned that Aokiji was in cahoots with Blackbeard (which is preposterously stupid as a narrative move, but there you go) just don't stick.
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That's exactly what happened.
It was never said that Nero died. He hasn't been mentioned since though, which is kinda odd.
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Really? How do I miss those details so often? Things like that and when it was mentioned that Aokiji was in cahoots with Blackbeard (which is preposterously stupid as a narrative move, but there you go) just don't stick.
I think you might have missed chapter 793, because both of those things happen in that chapter.
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I think you might have missed chapter 793, because both of those things happen in that chapter.
You're kidding, right? I thought we heard about Aokiji and Blackbeard either during Dressrosa or shortly after their departure from there, and we didn't really hear about Urouge's fate until after they started heading to or arrived at WCI.
This is what happens when I'm too broke to buy the books and I only read the chapters once before they get taken off of mangastream.
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You're kidding, right? I thought we heard about Aokiji and Blackbeard either during Dressrosa or shortly after their departure from there, and we didn't really hear about Urouge's fate until after they started heading to or arrived at WCI.
This is what happens when I'm too broke to buy the books and I only read the chapters once before they get taken off of mangastream.
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Chapter 793 is during Dressrosa. Here are some pages from that chapter:
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How did they get up there, I wonder. Makes me curious if some sky folk are more than human…
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Were there any lines in the manga that mr 9 died or is it just him and miss monday getting exploded and us not seeing what happened to them
Both are alive. They were in a "Where are they now?" cover page. They are bounty hunters at Whiskey Peak, and are married with a child.
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Both are alive. They were in a "Where are they now?" cover page. They are bounty hunters at Whiskey Peak, and are married with a child.
I thought they were joking, 'cause even I remembered that page and what happened on it. Plus, such a freaky combo to make a couple…with a kid.
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Both are alive. They were in a "Where are they now?" cover page. They are bounty hunters at Whiskey Peak, and are married with a child.
I thought they were joking, 'cause even I remembered that page and what happened on it. Plus, such a freaky combo to make a couple…with a kid.
Long John knows that. He was just wondering if anyone in the manga actually said that they died back in Whiskey Peak.
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I don't remember that bit of dialogue. I reread chapter 442 (where they're on the ship, playing around until they find the barrel and Brook) but there's no mention of Merry's soul (/spirit). So, what scene(s) are you referring to exactly?
Ideal scenario for everyone is to leave it to interpretation. Those that want to feel like Merry is still tagging along can because Sunny now shows facial expressions; those that prefer him leaving the crew can assume Sunny has its own spirit. For now this is how it unfolds and I hope it will stay this way.
Franky says it in chapter 439 after the coup de burst. But honestly it's hard to take it at face value. If it was Usopp the guy who saw Merry soul it could have more meaning but for me this is just a way for him to tell that the Sunny won't lose to Merry in term of quality.
As for Vergo and Monet, it's a bit hard to have a definitive opinion. What is sure is that is unusual for Oda to let it undetermined for so long (don't tell me Sabo because he provided an obvious hint immediately). Maybe he wants to stay it that way so that it is to the reader to make themselves their opinion. What is sure is that i would prefer Pound for next Cover story than Vergo but we xon't have it before another 6 months anyway
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What is sure is that is unusual for Oda to let it undetermined for so long (don't tell me Sabo because he provided an obvious hint immediately). Maybe he wants to stay it that way so that it is to the reader to make themselves their opinion. What is sure is that i would prefer Pound for next Cover story than Vergo but we xon't have it before another 6 months anyway
It's not THAT unusual given that Punk Hazard led immediately into Dresserossa, and that lasted for two years, so obviously he couldn't do their story in that time.
Oda knows people don't believe he kills anymore, so he leaves it vague for longer periods now. Bon Kurei took two years to show back up for instance, and Sabo was just about as long officially. It's not the longest period he's left someone's fate ambiguous, that would probably be Bellamy at about a decade, or Mr. 9.
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It's not THAT unusual given that Punk Hazard led immediately into Dresserossa, and that lasted for two years, so obviously he couldn't do their story in that time.
Oda knows people don't believe he kills anymore, so he leaves it vague for longer periods now. Bon Kurei took two years to show back up for instance, and Sabo was just about as long officially. It's not the longest period he's left someone's fate ambiguous, that would probably be Bellamy at about a decade, or Mr. 9.
Why do you keep saying mr. 9's fate was ambiguous, I never even thought him or Monday died on whiskey peak I just figured they got beaten up. If oda milked their sacrifices more then maybe I would have thought they were dead but I doubt this was as heavily believed as bellamy (then again maybe people just cared less and didnt think about it) when doflamingo sliced his back up. I mean yeah we didnt see him after alabasta but still.
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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I don't see any of the Doflamingo family getting a cover story. At best, maybe Caesar will get one and that will mention Monet and Vergo being alive due to their connection to him. But other than that, I think it's more likely Pound will get one to set up some characters for Elbaf and maybe show what happened to Pekoms and maybe Pedro. Bege and Chifon too. I don't see what you can really do with Sugar and friends at this point, it would be like Miss Goldenweek's but without the end setting up Impel Down. I pray that nothing similar happens anyway, I have had enough of Doflamingo for the rest of the series. Granted there's prolly enough time for two cover stories in Wano, with another potential one being a condensed Reverie, as sucky as it would be to be demoted to cover story.
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Granted there's prolly enough time for two cover stories in Wano, with another potential one being a condensed Reverie, as sucky as it would be to be demoted to cover story.
A Reverie cover story could be an interesting way to cover the actual conference Since we're probably only going to cut back to the end of the Reverie after Wano is over.
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A Reverie cover story could be an interesting way to cover the actual conference Since we're probably only going to cut back to the end of the Reverie after Wano is over.
I think oda purposely cut out of the reverie when he did. We're in wano, a country closed off from the rest of the world, so we wont be able to get info of something big happening at the reverie (and something big will probably happen). Seeing as how oda probably did this on purpose, making the reverie a cover story would be weird.
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Long John knows that. He was just wondering if anyone in the manga actually said that they died back in Whiskey Peak.
Come to think of it, explosions seem to be the least fatal thing that happens to anybody in all of One Piece (except for Hiruluk).
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Why do you keep saying mr. 9's fate was ambiguous, I never even thought him or Monday died on whiskey peak I just figured they got beaten up.
Something potentially fatal happened, and then we never saw or heard from his again until a decade later. At that point in the series Oda was still sort of nonchalantly killing minor characters without making a big deal about it, so something fatal and then not seeing them again was implied death. Nowadays no one would think it for a second.
I think Gin is still the longest waiting holdout we need to catch up on on at some point. He was ambiguously left to die but he's assumed alive because he was a sort of redeemed hero type.
And not death related, but we haven't seen Axe-Hand since Koby's cover story, and we haven't seen Foxy since Davy Back (though he got used in a lot of anime filler.) So I really got to wonder what their deal is. Foxy seemed ideal for cover story shenanigans. (I personally like to believe he got assimilated into Buggy's crew but… haven't seen any actual indication of that.)
Come to think of it, explosions seem to be the least fatal thing that happens to anybody in all of One Piece (except for Hiruluk).
Hiriluk didn't die from explosions. He died of poison mushroom that he punctuated with explosions.
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Something potentially fatal happened, and then we never saw or heard from his again until a decade later. At that point in the series Oda was still sort of nonchalantly killing minor characters without making a big deal about it, so something fatal and then not seeing them again was implied death. Nowadays no one would think it for a second.
I think Gin is still the longest waiting holdout we need to catch up on on at some point. He was ambiguously left to die but he's assumed alive because he was a sort of redeemed hero type.
And not death related, but we haven't seen Axe-Hand since Koby's cover story, and we haven't seen Foxy since Davy Back (though he got used in a lot of anime filler.) So I really got to wonder what their deal is. Foxy seemed ideal for cover story shenanigans. (I personally like to believe he got assimilated into Buggy's crew but… haven't seen any actual indication of that.)
Hiriluk didn't die from explosions. He died of poison mushroom that he punctuated with explosions.
Still had explosions, dude.
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Guys Hiriluk said he wouldnt die until he's forgotten so he's clearly gonna show up later in the story. Along with Gol D Roger who said the exact same thing.
Seriously though Hiriluk chose to kill himself with explosions so it wouldn't be chopper's act that killed him. While he was dying anyway he didn't want chopper to feel responsible for the thing that killed him so he chose to blow himself up and the hat flew hundreds of feet away. I think the explosion did it's job.
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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But its not the explosions that killed him.
The explosion killed him before he could die of poison. Come on, man. Just because you're dying from something doesn't mean you can't be killed by some other means.
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My headcannon is that Luffy leaves a trail of bodies of fodder as a result of his assaults. Complications from surgeries, internal bleeding, etc. And Luffy smiles on without a second thought, ignorant to the extent his strength can go.
I'm half joking, but it's humorous to think about.
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The final villain is the brother of a grunt luffy accidentally killed in enies lobby
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The explosion killed him before he could die of poison. Come on, man. Just because you're dying from something doesn't mean you can't be killed by some other means.
No man, the mushroom is what tore his body to shreds in that explosion. The bomb was just a special effect. The shrapnel just happened to completely miss Hiriluk and he sat there all day waiting for the poison to finally off him we just got the shortened version.
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The explosion killed him before he could die of poison. Come on, man. Just because you're dying from something doesn't mean you can't be killed by some other means.
No man, the mushroom is what tore his body to shreds in that explosion. The bomb was just a special effect. The shrapnel just happened to completely miss Hiriluk and he sat there all day waiting for the poison to finally off him we just got the shortened version.
This is OP. If he'd had the will to keep living and didn't want to die right then and there, those explosions wouldn't have scratched him, the same way explosions haven't been particularly effective basically anywhere. He was ALREADY dying in the next minutes after years of being on the verge anyway, even the poison mushroom probably only sped up the end a little bit.
There were explosions because he was dying. He wasn't dying because there were explosions.
The explosions were the symptom, not the cause.
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Hiluluk died from an explosion before dying from bullets before dying from a poisonous mushroom before dying from a disease that would kill in that same week.
He was playing "choose your death". He chose explosion. I agree with him.
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He didnt want chopper to take the blame so he chose to kill himself, if he didnt guarantee that with enough bombs than in his opinion he would be letting chopper carry too much of a burden. Hiriluk is just a normal guy too and in anime the bigger you're muscles the bigger of an explosion you can take. It doesn't make any sense but we roll with it.
Now I'm imagining hiriluk forgetting enough gunpowder and then crawling out of the explosion after the speech saying "Oh no, I survived and now the poisonous mushroom will kill me chopper"
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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This is OP. If he'd had the will to keep living and didn't want to die right then and there, those explosions wouldn't have scratched him, the same way explosions haven't been particularly effective basically anywhere. He was ALREADY dying in the next minutes after years of being on the verge anyway, even the poison mushroom probably only sped up the end a little bit.
There were explosions because he was dying. He wasn't dying because there were explosions.
The explosions were the symptom, not the cause.
So in other words, the explosion killed him.
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Hiriluk is just a normal guy too and in anime the bigger you're muscles the bigger of an explosion you can take. It doesn't make any sense but we roll with it.
Hey, a random nameless Tenryubiito slave can have an explosive collar go off on his neck, then be shot, and then peed on, and still be fine. And a pirate can bite his own tongue off, be declared dead by a doctor, and still be fine.
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Hey, a random nameless Tenryubiito slave can have an explosive collar go off on his neck, then be shot, and then peed on, and still be fine. And a pirate can bite his own tongue off, be declared dead by a doctor, and still be fine.
That was Devil Dias pirate captain of the Acumate Pirates and worth 60 million so not a no name though not anyone super tough.
Also the other man was introduced with the only thing about him being that he was a cunning strategist so it's possible he faked biting off his toungue. Like the whole "you thought it was my blood but it was me
DIOhomemade strawberry jam" thing that cracked pulled.Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
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Hiluluk only ate the mushroom because he knew he was going to die of the disease anyway (so his plan was to make Chopper cure him and then die of something else that was not the disease, otherwise Chopper would notice that the "cure" didn't work). It's not like Chopper and the mushroom were actually the culprit of his death.
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There were explosions because he was dying. He wasn't dying because there were explosions.
The explosions were the symptom, not the cause.
Robby… What the hell are you on about?
Does everyone die of old age? Because everyone is dying of old age, its just that some people die of other stuff before old age gets them. If an old person gets hit by a car, you don't say that they died of old age, do you?
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@Long:
Like the whole "you thought it was my blood but it was me
DIOhomemade strawberry jam" thing that cracked pulled.It actually takes a really long time to die from biting your tongue. Him biting his tongue was just a way to show that he would be useless as a slave since he'd always be trying to kill himself.
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Hiluluk only ate the mushroom because he knew he was going to die of the disease anyway (so his plan was to make Chopper cured him and then die of something else that was not the disease, otherwise Chopper would notice that he "cure" didn't work). It's not like Chopper and the mushroom was actually the culprit of his death.
It's funny, that motivation should be obvious, but personally I never thought deeply about why he did what he did, and your post made it perfectly clear. Thanks!
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Haha you are problably right
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@Long:
That was Devil Dias pirate captain of the Acumate Pirates and worth 60 million so not a no name though not anyone super tough.
Also the other man was introduced with the only thing about him being that he was a cunning strategist so it's possible he faked biting off his toungue. Like the whole "you thought it was my blood but it was me
DIOhomemade strawberry jam" thing that cracked pulled.You can see a part of his tongue is missing when he is freed. Someone noticed it in a sbs.
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So we are recounting our feelings about death with One Piece? I just have to admire how off-topic that thread can go.
I have a pretty strict no one dies in One Piece after Pell view of the whole thing. I don't think Monet(but I paid the wager since the conditions were fufilled) or Pedro are dead. And I expect Oda to pull a cheap trick with Shanks where people will believe him dead, the war will happen in the same week and then in the aftermatch you will learn that he needed heavy medical help but will survive. But since Oda seems to be rying to make more complex villain and some oter experimentation maybe I'm wrong and he'll go through.
Igarram is a legit twist because it one of the multiple actions Robin did and that makes her a good gal rereading the whole thing.
My personal "he will probably come back but I think he's dead" is Gin. He was poisoned back when Oda still kill people. But when he was leaving he made a promise to Sanji they would meet again so him showing back up would be consistent with Oda current writing. Like how Mr9 and that lady were attacked by deadly assassin and just showed up fine later. I wouldn't say I believe them dead dead but considering the atmosphere back then if Oda wanted them alive you would have expected a doctor by their bloodied bodies.
Bellamy doesn't count as a fake out for me because everything about Doffly dialogue told me he was getting rid of him from his crew not actually killing him. As in even in a regular manga I would take that scene as him losing his honor and becoming a bum not a death scene. So I was surprise when Dressrosa rolled out and people counted him among the fake death.
It's funny, that motivation should be obvious, but personally I never thought deeply about why he did what he did, and your post made it perfectly clear. Thanks!
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And I expect Oda to pull a cheap trick with Shanks where people will believe him dead, the war will happen in the same week and then in the aftermatch you will learn that he needed heavy medical help but will survive. But since Oda seems to be rying to make more complex villain and some oter experimentation maybe I'm wrong and he'll go through.
Nah. As difficult as it is for Oda to kill somebody off, Ace and Whitebeard prove that he is willing to do it
1. at important turning points of the story
2. with a very limited amount of charactersShanks will likely be really one of the very selected few, who are going to die.
Igarram is a legit twist because it one of the multiple actions Robin did and that makes her a good gal rereading the whole thing.
That's a good point. There would be too much of a shadow over Robin accession if this hadn't been satisfyingly resolved before. Igaram is also something different as the nameless mooks that Zoro maybe killed.
My personal "he will probably come back but I think he's dead" is Gin. He was poisoned back when Oda still kill people. But when he was leaving he made a promise to Sanji they would meet again so him showing back up would be consistent with Oda current writing. Like how Mr9 and that lady were attacked by deadly assassin and just showed up fine later. I wouldn't say I believe them dead dead but considering the atmosphere back then if Oda wanted them alive you would have expected a doctor by their bloodied bodies.
The "Gin thing" is a strange one. I'm not sure we'll see him again. What makes me doubtful is that this was a story thing which was set up in East Blue and doesn't belong to the central arc of the story like the One Piece itself does (which obviously, was also introduced in East Blue). I'm absolutely sure we're going to see Moria again for instance. But there's something about the whole East Blue thing which sometimes seems disconnected from how One Piece eventually turned out. We also never heard from Kuro again. And Gin didn't have recurring appearances like Buggy or even Arlong.
It may seem far easier for Oda to have Gin forgotten than Moria for instance.
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The "Gin thing" is a strange one. I'm not sure we'll see him again. What makes me doubtful is that this was a story thing which was set up in East Blue and doesn't belong to the central arc of the story like the One Piece itself does (which obviously, was also introduced in East Blue). I'm absolutely sure we're going to see Moria again for instance. But there's something about the whole East Blue thing which sometimes seems disconnected from how One Piece eventually turned out. We also never heard from Kuro again. And Gin didn't have recurring appearances like Buggy or even Arlong.
It may seem far easier for Oda to have Gin forgotten than Moria for instance.
The anime showed Kuro again, and Oda is on the record of officially sanctioned that one. He was broken and his dream destroyed, but he wasn't about to go back to being a pirate, so there's not a lot of room for him to show back up. I imagine we'll probably get a one or two panel snippet of him at the end of the series helping out in the great war someway, ala Android 17 in the spirit ball sequence at the end of Dragonball.
We also haven't seen Axe Hand since East Blue but he's specifically on the loose and Coby's responsibility, so he'll be back in some form eventually.
Gin is easy. He just shows up again as part of someone's crew, or as a captain in his own right. Basically in the same fashion the Supernovas keep getting slotted in.
