Maybe I'll actually believe the election is rigged….
...if Trump wins.
Maybe I'll actually believe the election is rigged….
...if Trump wins.
@Monkey:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2015/08/25/kremlin-censors-rush-to-erase-inadvertent-release-of-russian-casualties-in-east-ukraine/#bbcb6a55b261
This was awhile ago. That is WAY the fuck more than a limited support (for their pet mercs and militias) engagement should result in. Especially given the enemy is/was a badly funded and disorganized Ukrainian army.Actually that's even worse than I thought lol. Because 2000 dead is basically the same amount of US soldiers who have died in Afghanistan during the entire duration thus far of the Afghan war. The Russians as of mid-2015 after about a year of the Donbass war lost basically the same.
Certainly not a good look for them. But that's still a war through proxy, if i'm understanding correctly.
While the US went to war with all their avaliable might. And allies. The circumstances seem too different for an apt comparison.
But then again i'm not in any position to determine much of anything about warfare. I never even took part in the conscription lol.
Certainly not a good look for them. But that's still a war through proxy, if i'm understanding correctly.
The 2000 dead are the Russian military, not the Russian backed militia.
Russia has been deploying their regular army in Ukraine, and in a more secondary support fire role, with the militia to soak up the main fighting in front of them, and still lost 2000+ soldiers.
@Monkey:
The 2000 dead are the Russian military, not the Russian backed militia.
Russia has been deploying their regular army in Ukraine, and in a more secondary support fire role, with the militia to soak up the main fighting in front of them, and still lost 2000+ soldiers.
Oh i wasn't aware that they had officially gone in with their army proper, i was still thinking that it was still the cloak and dagger thing where those guys, who are totally not Russian, are just volunteers who happend to be there on vacation, and those guns are absolutely not Russian guns with the tracking number carved off. They are showing a suprising amount of constraint though, seeing how the just blasted Syria to shit from the air, but i guess it's a different approach when it's the Russian "little brother" huh
Quick question. So the polls after the final debate indicate that Hillary is leading big time. Has it ever been the case where someone with the amount of lead they have at this point of time has actually lost in the elections?
@Monkey:
They created this whole situation that is Trump. They couldn't stop pushing things farther right, more and more conspiratorial theory based, more and more stupidly all out anti-establishment, more and more xenophobic. And now they're stuck in a momentum they can't slow down from headed toward November 8th.
The voters just have to hit all the switches on the track.
Ah fuck .
All of those years of voter fraud talk are also coming back to haunt the GOP since they've pushed that ridiculous narrative for so long that it's hard for them to reassure their base that their vote will count.
So they're having to deal with the prospects of some Republicans staying home out of disgust with the party for backing Trump plus people just writing off voting altogether as being rigged on top of the Trump campaign not being willing to spend money on GOTV efforts.
It'll definitely be interesting if their misguided tactics of ginning up their easily duped base leads to another speaker getting tired of their shit.
That's if the Republicans still hold Congress that is.
@xan:
Quick question. So the polls after the final debate indicate that Hillary is leading big time. Has it ever been the case where someone with the amount of lead they have at this point of time has actually lost in the elections?
Historically no one this far behind at this point has ever caught up.
Not to say its still impossible, two weeks is a lot of time for something insane to happen still. Not that Trump himself can make it up at this point, but… stuff can still happen, and to describe any of it out loud is just tempting fate.
I dislike it when that phrase gets tossed about. That's an exaggeration so that people can feel better reading whatever they want by implying that everything is equally bad or equally good.
Yes, there is in fact inherant bias in everything. And yes, you should check more than one source to avoid getting trapped in a bubble. But there's a huge difference between "bias" and "propoganda."
Bias is "Hillary's not that bad." Propoganda is "Emails show that she murdered four men in Benghazi and then laughed about it!"
Bias is "Trump is unfit for president and here are reasons why." Propoganda is "Trump is great businessman who has never had a failure and only he can stand up to the Russians!"
Bias is "The US Military is far far better than the Russian one which has been in dissaray for decades, and both sides know if it came down to it, Russia would lose." Propoganda is "Russia is so helpless there is literally nothing they can do" or "Russia is secretly much much stronger than we think and they can actually conquer the world!"There's nothing wrong with a little bias if it's what drives you to find facts and provide them. If you have the research and didn't reach your entire conclusion before you started, it's fine. Most stories try to stay neutral. But even forcing a piece to be neutral can be a negative if you're trying to balance both sides of a story when the two sides are not in fact balanced. THats how we ended up with "Hillary and Trump are both qualified to be president." and "They are both evil and corrupt in their own ways."
But places like Fox News or RT are not "biased". They are propaganda machines that create stories out of full cloth, or hold onto minor non-stories for months, to further their narrative.
No. That's what you're interpreting. Actually, that's also how I think when reading the comments under some mainstream news outlets.
Thing is, with saying that I meant that people have to think critically to discern what comes close to the truth and who's the one reporting it. No matter where it comes from. And RT sometimes shows some things that haven't been shown by our media, so yeah, sometimes it can be informative.
Much of what the RT says is propaganda, but at the same time, Western media have been blaming "everything" on Russia and making out the West to be saints or something.
You guys know that countries are just going to protect their interests. And Russia has been pretty much pushed in a corner.
And it doesn't help their paid comments (& other Internet propagandists) make some people truly feel like Western media is lying and Putin of all people is telling the truth. Ugh.
This guy has a point in this article about this issue.
Otherwise I do agree with what you're saying. But people tend to see the extremes and some are starting to say the media are lying to them ("Lügenpresse" in Germany) and they'd rather believe what RT and other non-Western outlets say. If it's come to this, you can't tell me our media has nothing to do with it all.
@Monkey:
The enormous body count in Ukraine certainly shows the performance in practice rather than on RT paper.
Yeah, because a full-on attack with tanks and missiles and fighters will be the same as their current incursion in Eastern Ukraine…
And I'm not taking the info from RT, but from the TheNationalInterest:
Thankfully, the Russian military is not ten feet tall. No one said it is. But that is the way some unnamed “senior Pentagon officials” want to spin the legitimate concerns of senior military officers regarding the challenges posed by the improved capabilities of a rapidly modernizing Russian military. It is even worse when some in the media try not only to make such a case but to demean the reputation and honesty of a military officer who is courageously attempting to get the Obama Administration and the American people to take seriously a growing threat to our national security and that of our allies.
Remember, it's about how far and how fast they could get into Europe until the US could even deploy enough forces to hold them off/push them back.
That's why a EU Army would actually be a good idea. Ah well, not gonna happen.
Thing is, with saying that I meant that people have to think critically to discern what comes close to the truth and who's the one reporting it. No matter where it comes from.
Be critical of anything you read = right.
So reading propaganda is fine = wrong.
And RT sometimes shows some things that haven't been shown by our media,
There is a fuckzillion outlets online and otherwise available to you that will and have reported on everything there is to some extent. While still being actual journalism not intent to dupe you like a sucker. There is literally no excuse to read or watch any Russian state media as news. None.
Much of what the RT says is propaganda,
No, RT IS propaganda.
but at the same time, Western media have been blaming "everything" on Russia and making out the West to be saints or something.
Oh look, you have actually had your sense of reality downgraded by constantly "harmlessly" consuming Russian state propaganda! And no longer have any sense of what the hell.
I can't believe this has happened! I also can't believe that drinking all this untreated water eventually gave you horrible stomach diseases! Sometimes the water is ok!
You guys know that countries are just going to protect their interests. And Russia has been pretty much pushed in a corner.
Yeah you're totally fucking duped lol. Officially made a Useful Idiot.
Do you want us to conduct surgery on what's been done? Or just say your bye byes from the thread and go continue drinking the botulism water and telling yourself its totes fine.
And it doesn't help their paid comments (& other Internet propagandists) make some people truly feel like Western media is lying and Putin of all people is telling the truth. Ugh.
You are one of those people
No he does not.
Otherwise I do agree with what you're saying. But people tend to see the extremes and some are starting to say the media are lying to them
And so they decide to start drinking water from sewer pipes, and electing retarded demon clowns. Yeah it totally makes sense and isn't indefensible bullshit.
"Oh gosh I just don't know about the status quo, let me ignore the TV news and go talk to the shady guy under the bridge about what's going on."
("Lügenpresse" in Germany) and they'd rather believe what RT and other non-Western outlets say. If it's come to this, you can't tell me our media has nothing to do with it all.
Your the fuck to blame for what you consume willingly into your own head and mind.
Your country more than ANY OTHER should know the hell better about being tired of milquetoast moderates and status quo and just taking abrupt left turns into throwing in to crazy extremes.
Yeah, because a full-on attack with tanks and missiles and fighters will be the same as their current incursion in Eastern Ukraine…
And I'm not taking the info from RT, but from the TheNationalInterest:
If TheNationalInterest is anything like FP, they love posting a ton of often contradictive OpEd articles with sensationalist titles and sometimes even sensationalist content.
So instead of "Analysis of Russian Military Capability" its "RUSSIA'S ARMY IS COLLAPSING, THEY'LL BE GONE IN ONE YEAR" and "BEWARE, RUSSIA COULD DESTROY US ALL SOONER THAN YOU THINK". Which in spite of the hoity toity presentation of the sight, basically just makes them more CNN style clickbait.
Remember, it's about how far and how fast they could get into Europe until the US could even deploy enough forces to hold them off/push them back.
Judging by Ukraine, I'm gonna say Poland. But Russia isn't invading Europe so this is a moot point.
Due to business crashing (for some reason), Trump hotels are re-branding and taking the Trump name off.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/10/22/trump-just-removed-name-hotels-due-plummeting-business/
They're going to be "Scion" hotels now.
@Article:
"Listen to Ben Judah and Dmitri Linnik on Putin’s information war": Putin vs the world: He's winning in propaganda and on the ground"
Obviously this is a completely unbiased article/website!
This article you posted was really bad. This part in particular is the worst: @Article:
In Syria and Iraq we are fighting in support of people who do not really exist: the nice moderates, not the jihadis, but also not Assad. You can count them on the fingers of one hand, the Syrian Lib Dems: Mohammed Clegg and his friends.
Yeah those fucking Syrians, am I right? A country full of violent barbarians, who cares what happens to them. Kurds? What is that, some kind of exotic cuisine?
No. That's what you're interpreting. Actually, that's also how I think when reading the comments under some mainstream news outlets.
Zeff already covered all this so I won't go over it but… no.
Be aware of bias and be critical of what you read and be aware there's probably another side, yes.
Don't read literal propoganda that flat out makes up stories from literally nothing to support their narrative.
Due to business crashing (for some reason), Trump hotels are re-branding and taking the Trump name off.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/10/22/trump-just-removed-name-hotels-due-plummeting-business/
They're going to be "Scion" hotels now.
Hah yeah I remember seeing that article that a Trump hotel in DC that basically had to halve prices during peak traveling times and it's still not filling rooms. His name is really the only thing he's got that must hurt.
I try not to be a sour grapes person. But sometimes it's so delicious.
Trump's lead in Texas is narrowing to the point that some sites are Counting it as a Toss-Up.
FiveThirtyEight doesn't tho, and I tend to trust them over sites like this, but the very fact that Texas is in that ballpark is striking.
The race in Texas is closer than in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, or Virginia. Given that those three are still frequently mentioned as battleground states, it's pretty crazy the gains Hillary has made in some traditionally red states.
She's now focusing on supporting House and Senate races in close constituencies too.
Hah yeah I remember seeing that article that a Trump hotel in DC that basically had to halve prices during peak traveling times and it's still not filling rooms. His name is really the only thing he's got that must hurt.
I try not to be a sour grapes person. But sometimes it's so delicious.
Too bad there's no chance that he'll end up broke.
But he'd probably be pissed if he ended up as "just" a millionaire.
So it takes loud, cartoonishly evil bigots to get the South voting Democrat again.
Welp, that's some ironic karma.
@Monkey:
Be critical of anything you read = right.
So reading propaganda is fine = wrong.
But… can't one read propaganda and be critical of it?
@Monkey:
Oh look, you have actually had your sense of reality downgraded by constantly "harmlessly" consuming Russian state propaganda! And no longer have any sense of what the hell.
He has a point, though. In the minds of many Americans, the cold war never ended. I know several people who seriously believe that we should have invaded Russia to save Ukraine.
But… can't one read propaganda and be critical of it?
One can study propaganda as propaganda. Reading it as news? With the idea that "naw I'll just filter it" is very dumb and risky.
He has a point, though. In the minds of many Americans, the cold war never ended. I know several people who seriously believe that we should have invaded Russia to save Ukraine.
That's not his point or what he's talking about in what I responded to with what you quoted. He has no point, and his "point" is being parroted across the far-right and far-left internet world as a knee jerk non-response to Russia being blamed for the hack they have been confirmed to be behind, or maybe the siege of the city they have soldiers in, or the you know, all manner of red handed things they are doing. But gorsh! Why are people blaming Russia so much??
It's totally in line with the disinfo tactics. Don't actually engage the argument, just poop a little substance lite hand wringing into the discussion and fog things up.
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This article you posted was really bad. This part in particular is the worst:
Yeah those fucking Syrians, am I right? A country full of violent barbarians, who cares what happens to them. Kurds? What is that, some kind of exotic cuisine?
DemonX is of the far-left variety of this sort of person, which makes this even more head slappingly frustrating.
A mere two steps from every defense he makes is the far-right nationalist or Kissinger esque realpolitck truth of what is being argued.
In what you quoted, two steps over and we have a leftist arguing that the tribal savages need the strong hand of an authoritarian dictator to keep them in line.
Elsewhere its even less steps to saying that yes, bigger stronger countries have the right to bully and attack smaller ones in order to establish a sphere of control. As said by someone who unquestionably considers themselves a hardcore anti-imperialist. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so asinine.
@Monkey:
One can study propaganda as propaganda. Reading it as news? With the idea that "naw I'll just filter it" is very dumb and risky.
Yeah, reading it casually is very dangerous. Unfortunately we're all prone to over-trusting favored news sources (generally any source that appeals to us emotionally), and any news source given legitimate trust can go sour with time.
Yeah, reading it casually is very dangerous. Unfortunately we're all prone to over-trusting favored news sources (generally any source that appeals to us emotionally), and any news source given legitimate trust can go sour with time.
RT is not a news source.
Too bad there's no chance that he'll end up broke.
But he'd probably be pissed if he ended up as "just" a millionaire.
To paraphrase Chris Rock if Trump's true wealth were revealed he's probably kill himself. Though even if he doesn't end up
broke his brand is pretty much irrepably damaged.
The European left tends to have a complicated relationship with the US in general.
That kind of i hate you, but i love you thing. Like i agree with you about alot, but fuck you anyways.
The European left tends to have a complicated relationship with the US in general.
That kind of i hate you, but i love you thing. Like i agree with you about alot, but fuck you anyways.
European Far-Left: I cannot support you America, morally, rationally, or any such thing. You are a beast of neo-imperialism to this day. Blood still runs off your hands. Now excuse me.
dons huge shaman hat, paints face with blood and feces
lifts Ukraine up above bubbling volcano
European Far-Left: UNGA BUNGA OODLY OO, ME GIVE SACRIFICE TO GREAT AND MYSTERIOUS SPHERE OF THE RUS SO NO BOOM BOOM HAPPENED.
Utah early voting is currently Trump-30, McMullin-29, Clinton-25.
ANd basically ALL the polling done there was prior to the third debate. Typically by that debate your watching who you've already picked, but it's rolling pretty even opinionwise in Utah. Trump might lose some more to Clinton now… he only needs to lose a tiny bit of ground for McMullin to pull ahead.
Geebus. thatd be amazing if a state actually went third party in the midst of all this... and with a candidate no one has talked about.
I mean, he could only win Utah, but still a thing.
@Monkey:
European Far-Left: I cannot support you America, morally, rationally, or any such thing. You are a beast of neo-imperialist to this day. Blood still runs off your hands. Now excuse me.
dons huge shaman hat, paints face with blood and feces
lifts Ukraine up above bubbling volcanoEuropean Far-Left: UNGA BUNGA OODLY OO, ME GIVE SACRIFICE TO GREAT AND MYSTERIOUS SPHERE OF THE RUS SO NO BOOM BOOM HAPPENED.
I think that mental rigidity is one of the more interesting problems facing young lefties today. When the world is always assumed to be categorized into non-fluid boxes of oppressors and the opressed it's easy to fall into places where you end up defending crazy shit just because your unable or unwilling to nuance things to the point where a nation or entity can be in both boxes at once, or that their status varies on circumstances. Kind of like when genuine, well-meaning, equal rights advocates end up yielding the way for enforced gender roles and habits just because it's ideologically unthinkable that someone who is himself in the opressed box could in turn be doing the same to another entity.
@Monkey:
RT is not a news source.
We're kinda getting into semantics here… it's an alleged legitimate news source that isn't actually a legitimate news source.
We're kinda getting into semantics here… it's an alleged legitimate news source that isn't actually a legitimate news source.
Given the second sentence of your post, RT should not come up in that context in the first place.
Neither the European Left or the American Left have anything resembling coherent ideas on foreign policy.
"STAY OUT OF MIDDLE EAST"
Uh huh, okay, I get it, but what about just simple humanitarian aid to the victims of ISIS's geoncides?
"STAY OUT OF MIDDLE EAST"
That's not -
"STAY OUT OF MIDDLE EAST"
Fuck I hate reading Jacobin during an election year.
@Cyan:
Neither the European Left or the American Left have anything resembling coherent ideas on foreign policy.
"STAY OUT OF MIDDLE EAST"
Uh huh, okay, I get it, but what about just simple humanitarian aid to the victims of ISIS's geoncides?
"STAY OUT OF MIDDLE EAST"
That's not -
"STAY OUT OF MIDDLE EAST"
Fuck I hate reading Jacobin during an election year.
And remember: Syria's all the fault of American imperialism too.
Even though the most notable American involvement pre-ISIS is that Obama didn't interfere after promising to do so if Assad used chemical weapons.
@Cyan:
Neither the European Left or the American Left have anything resembling coherent ideas on foreign policy.
I think it's backlash against the alleged American war on Islam. A few people with power in the west killed a lot of Muslims over the last fifteen years and a lot of anti-Muslim propaganda was spread throughout the west. Thus, some sympathetic westerners hate and judge our society as a whole in response.
prominent-lawyers-say-if-trump-sues-accusers-theyll-defend-them-for-free/
prominent-lawyers-say-if-trump-sues-accusers-theyll-defend-them-for-free/
Its funny but of all the things he's said and done, including the tape of him bragging about sexual assault, him saying he's going to sue all the accusers was the thing that most made me hate him of all.
Maybe even sex crimes themselves are somehow less disgusting than when perpetrator's follow them up with threats to the victims to keep the quiet. Because yeah that's basically the reason a person like him gets away with shit like this. Legal/monetary intimidation.
I hope you lose your fortune after you lose the election and die in a gutter you enormous piece of shit.
And I hope that gutter is in Moscow with stray dogs eating the body, because you're a stain on the greatest city on earth and even the New York rats are too good to salvage that.
PS: We can all see your ugly old man scalp under the combover during the debates.
god i cant wait to vote this weekend. i feel like dog that's been chained up for a year about to be let off the leash
I voted last Thursday. Most satisfying vote I've ever cast.
@Monkey:
Its funny but of all the things he's said and done, including the tape of him bragging about sexual assault, him saying he's going to sue all the accusers was the thing that most made me hate him of all.
Yeah, I experienced that too. He was a cartoon before, but now he's a more realistic evil.
I plan on going in next few days to vote, likely day after tomorrow
I think it's backlash against the alleged American war on Islam. A few people with power in the west killed a lot of Muslims over the last fifteen years and a lot of anti-Muslim propaganda was spread throughout the west. Thus, some sympathetic westerners hate and judge our society as a whole in response.
Probably didn't help. But the US has been slammed for it's foreign policy since the 60's, atleast in Sweden.
Obviously this is a completely unbiased article/website!
This article you posted was really bad. This part in particular is the worst:
Yeah those fucking Syrians, am I right? A country full of violent barbarians, who cares what happens to them. Kurds? What is that, some kind of exotic cuisine?
Guys, I'm doing this on the fly. Not picking up only the articles that 100% underline my opinion. My one point (where I meant the guy had a point) was the "sabre-rattling".
And this guy meant the people who are fighting (I hope at least. Otherwise he's a fuckwit, I agree). The civilians are dying left and right anyway, dude.
Yeah, it fucking sucks that a ruler shoots at his own people. It sucks even more though when you prolong a war where you missed your chances to have a meaningful intervention. So much for red lines.
Oh and about the Kurds. You know they are being used as pawns by the US, who balances out their support with the Turks wanting them all dead and bombing them on the other side? Don't talk about the Kurds when you don't know what's going on.
@Monkey:
One can study propaganda as propaganda. Reading it as news? With the idea that "naw I'll just filter it" is very dumb and risky.
I actually agree here. People who have no idea how to differentiate would just get brain-washed. I do hope I know what's propaganda though (yeah, don't bother to reply, I know what you're gonna say)
That's not his point or what he's talking about in what I responded to with what you quoted. He has no point, and his "point" is being parroted across the far-right and far-left internet world as a knee jerk non-response to Russia being blamed for the hack they have been confirmed to be behind, or maybe the siege of the city they have soldiers in, or the you know, all manner of red handed things they are doing. But gorsh! Why are people blaming Russia so much??
It's totally in line with the disinfo tactics. Don't actually engage the argument, just poop a little substance lite hand wringing into the discussion and fog things up.
You're being disingenious again. I never said or implied any of that. I said you have to look at all sides and be aware that everything is ideologically colored.
Tell me, what's the difference in civilian casualties in Aleppo (attacked by Assad and the Russian) and the ones in Mosul (attacked by Iraq and the US)? Please, tell me.
To make this even clearer: I'm not defending anyone. I just want people to stop having double-standards and start recognizing what's going on. The Russians are killing people, the Americans are too. It's a freaking war, so it happens, right? (and yes, I know Russians hit hospitals. I bet it never ever happened to American fighters though…)
DemonX is of the far-left variety of this sort of person, which makes this even more head slappingly frustrating.
A mere two steps from every defense he makes is the far-right nationalist or Kissinger esque realpolitck truth of what is being argued.
In what you quoted, two steps over and we have a leftist arguing that the tribal savages need the strong hand of an authoritarian dictator to keep them in line.
Elsewhere its even less steps to saying that yes, bigger stronger countries have the right to bully and attack smaller ones in order to establish a sphere of control. As said by someone who unquestionably considers themselves a hardcore anti-imperialist. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so asinine.
Not to misunderstand again, but is the second paragraph referring to me or the article?
As to the first: No, you're wrong here. I'm merely looking at the system and telling you what I see - or at least how I see it. And maybe I'm expressing myself wrongly sometimes, but between a person who tells people to look at both sides and a guy who see only the other guy as the culprit, I think I'm closer to the truth.
That being said, to clarify again: I'm from Germany. And I like the Western sphere of influence and wouldn't trade it in for any other. But if the people in charge react like Zephos when people with doubts and/or brain-washed extremists from either spectrum come out and say they are the people and the West is lying to them and the Russians actually want only their best, it's easy to see the direction this is going.
The States are a state. The most powerful state around at the moment. They will act in their own interest (and that of their allies). Just like the Russians. That's what people have to know first and foremost.
OTP: Yeah, go vote people. How does me being for Hillary fit your image of me though, Zephos? :D
Oh and about the Kurds. You know they are being used as pawns by the US, who balances out their support with the Turks wanting them all dead and bombing them on the other side? Don't talk about the Kurds when you don't know what's going on.
@Monkey:
It's totally in line with the disinfo tactics. Don't actually engage the argument, just poop a little substance lite hand wringing into the discussion and fog things up.
How can you be this dense? You did exactly what MK said you were doing so brazenly.
Please go ahead and explain to me how the Kurds are pawns and have no will of their own. I'm sure it will be riveting.
How can you be this dense? You did exactly what MK said you were doing so brazenly.
Please go ahead and explain to me how the Kurds are pawns and have no will of their own. I'm sure it will be riveting.
Who said they have no will of their own? The argument was - apparently you didn't get it - that the US could care less about the Kurds. Those guys are fighting for more autonomy (or even for an own state). The US can certainly use the fighters, but can't and won't do too much for them anyway because of Turkey, who's fighting them in their own country and outside as well (although at the moment both are attacking Mosul).
How is that disinformation tactics and not engaging the argument? What would a proper argument be? You can throw around sentences like " A country full of violent barbarians, who cares what happens to them. Kurds? What is that, some kind of exotic cuisine?" but when I talk about the situation over there it's fogging things up?
And yet she's not as cringe inducing as another lady from 60 Minutes whose considering voting for Hillary but voting for a Republican within the Senate.
The whole concept of "make America great again" is really bigoted now that I think about it. The implication is that x group has ruined America and y group needs to fix it.
I've heard similar things from far-left fringe groups claiming that we need to make the world great again, because white people ruined it.
Trump on porn actress who accused him of misconduct: 'Oh, I'm sure she's never been grabbed before'
Pornography is a consensual act between two performers in which personal boundaries and safe words are established beforehand, not to mention the numerous contractual paperwork that each performer must understand and sign before the camera can even turn on.
You, Donald Trump, are an overweight, balding, racist, misogynistic, and ignorant man-child with tiny hands and a case of narcissism so severe, it borders on dangerous mental instability, who openly brags about sexually assaulting women and cheating taxes.
In polite words, fuck you Trump
Trump needs to be made into his own word for "horrible disgusting person." I nominate Trumpular.
Joel called it long ago.
Texas, a swing state? http://thedailybanter.com/2016/10/texas-swing-state/
The whole concept of "make America great again" is really bigoted now that I think about it. The implication is that x group has ruined America and y group needs to fix it.
I've heard similar things from far-left fringe groups claiming that we need to make the world great again, because white people ruined it.
You just now got that? That's been the subtext since it was first uttered lol.
I haven't heard anything from the far left saying that exactly. I mostly see people saying It was never great. We can do better. The harsher version is telling white people to actually step up since it was a problem they mostly caused.
Not sure if this was posted anywhere in this thread but this guy is hilarious lmao