I think it would be interesting to see Drumpf having to support another candidate if he gets overtaken. Even if he does comply, I feel like giving his fans over would be like handing off a primed grenade.
Indecision 2016 - In Soviet Russia, we elect american president!
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they are both awful, please don't think Cruz would actually be better. I actually think Cruz would be worse because he can actually pretend to be a politician. I mean, you know it's weird when TX republicans are saying that Cruz is more of wackjob than Trump
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they are both awful, please don't think Cruz would actually be better. I actually think Cruz would be worse because he can actually pretend to be a politician. I mean, you know it's weird when TX republicans are saying that Cruz is more of wackjob than Trump
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Cruz is the same as Trump, except his intolerance is hidden behind a wax facade of Christian "compassion."
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According to exit polls, black voters in Florida and North Carolina went eight to two for Hillary while Latinos in Florida went seven to three for Hillary.
Those numbers are pretty consistent across the entire South.
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According to exit polls, black voters in Florida and North Carolina went eight to two for Hillary while Latinos in Florida went seven to three for Hillary.
Those numbers are pretty consistent across the entire South.
what percent of the voters did those groups make up?
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So, between Trump and Cruz, who would be worse?
Cruz is the devil we know, Trump is the devil we don't.
I look at Cruz and think "Ok there's an awful piece of shit right there. But I know the score. This is the same old insane evangelical libertarian that's been in some shape or form with the Republican party in the last 30 odd years".
I look at Trump and see something new. And considering the horror of reckless mass movements populated by extremists and angry morons, and the fact that Trump's base fly in the face of the American values I hold dearest…?Yeah personally Trump 100 times Trump. Cruz at worst would be the last screaming rage of a dying movement, capable of great damage, but ultimately probably best symbolizing the final death of awful shit America has been cleaning out in recent years. We know Cruz and the sort of shit he would make.
Trump...I don't honest to god know. What he's stirring up and the people being dredged up and made unafraid of their shittiness by him? I don't know what will result.
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Is it wrong that I'm kind of offended by that? :/
Do you get offended by census questions? I'm not seeing the angle of offense here.
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The danger of Cruz is that he has legitimate political skills. This is the man who essentially pulled a one-man coup of the Republican party in 2013 (hence why they're hesitant to go near him.)
There's a potential upswing to a Trump presidency, in that when he gets bored of being president he'll start delegating most of his responsibilities out. The horror there is the kind of people he'll delegate to.
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Really curious to see how the voter demographics are going to come out to with Hawaii. It's got a unique makeup compared to the mainland.
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Well at least Bernie seems to have won my home state, too bad he didn't do better tonight.
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what percent of the voters did those groups make up?
Black voters are about 20% of the electorate in North Carolina while Latinos and blacks are around 15% each in Florida.
@Cyan:
Really curious to see how the voter demographics are going to come out to with Hawaii. It's got a unique makeup compared to the mainland.
Hawaii is a semi-closed caucus for Democrats. If you're a registered Democrat, you can only vote in the Democratic caucus. If you're unregistered with either party, you could vote in either.
Since it's a caucus that allows independent voters, the state will probably go to Bernie.
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Is it wrong that I'm kind of offended by that? :/
No, because it's mocking and trivializes the feelings of the white electorate.
Also it marginalizes the voices of black and other minority Bernie supporters like me.
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Illinois has been called for Hillary. Meanwhile Bernie's margin in Missouri is razor thin with the remaining vote mainly being in St. Louis and Kansas City.
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As Truman is my favorite president, I am glad this is going down to Missouri.
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Even if she loses the state, Hillary is likely to net more delegates from Missouri than Bernie since she'll just get one less pledged one because of the narrow margin but more superdelegates.
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Hillary has just taken the lead in Missouri. All remaining votes are in Jackson County, which Hillary has been leading in all night long.
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MSNBC calls Missouri for Hillary, which makes a clean sweep for her.
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The Donald barely edges out a victory over Melted Wax Man in Missouri.
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@Cyan:
The Donald barely edges out a victory over Melted Wax Man in Missouri.
Still amazes me that the only places where a GOP candidate has gotten a majority are Puerto Rico and Wyoming; Trump's frontrunner status is entirely thanks to the GOP Clown Car.
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Still amazes me that the only place where a GOP candidate has gotten a majority is Puerto Rico; Trump's frontrunner status is entirely thanks to the GOP Clown Car.
Now there's the question of what happens to Marco the Wonder-Bot's delegates.
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...Give them to Kasich. Let the clusterfuck continue.
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@Cyan:
Now there's the question of what happens to Marco the Wonder-Bot's delegates.
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...Give them to Kasich. Let the clusterfuck continue.
I think they're bound to Rubio for the first ballot at the Convention and can switch afterwards.
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Haha. Oh Hillary, you so funny.
But good job tonight, Hillary. It looks like we'll most likely be voting for you in the general.
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That's like picking between two venereal diseases.
Which ones are painful and which makes you physically ill?
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Just imagine, Ted Cruz or Donald Trump as president. Off the bat I'd say Trump would be worse not only for America's reputation around the world and interests but…for America in general. But if you really think about it while Ted Cruz would do far better in a general election he's probably worse than Trump because Ted is an experienced politician that knows how to work the political system. Trump is all bluster and ignorance. He won't be able to get 3/4 of what he says he'll want and have to settle somewhere in the middle. Ted Cruz though? Oh, he'll get things done and push this nation progressively backwards. I want neither in the White House. I don't see Trump getting the nominee so I'm not even worried about him. Even if he were to get the nom (comical) he wouldn't be elected.
Ted Cruz though is worrisome. He has the best chance out of any of the Republican candidates to be elected, besides Kasich but good luck to him on getting the nod, though not a big fan of you either, man. If Ted Cruz were to actually be elected it's not like it's going to be the end of the world or anything like the candidates on both sides shape it out to be, but it would be pretty bad. Especially with a majority Republican congress? 4 years is a lot of time to do some serious damage.
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@Monkey:
I look at Cruz and think "Ok there's an awful piece of shit right there. But I know the score. This is the same old insane evangelical libertarian that's been in some shape or form with the Republican party in the last 30 odd years".
Ted "carpet bomb ISIS" Cruz is not a libertarian. His tax code and stance on the second amendment are probably the only things vaguely libertarian about him. He does not have a stated stance on government surveillance, is demonstrably a foreign-policy hawk and disguises his religious authoritarianism under "freedom of religion".
Gary Johnson is a libertarian. Rand Paul is (kinda) a libertarian. Justin Amash, Thomas Massie are libertarians. Ted Cruz is not. He's the human embodiment of the Tea-Party movement.
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Cruz is actually a little scarier than Trump in some ways. Trump it's clear he's crazy and that's leading to open revolt from anyone in high places, people would try to block him on a lot of things.
Cruz is just as bad policy wise, maybe worse, but doesn't look like a batshit insane joke. Apparently everyone in congress hates him though.
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Just imagine, Ted Cruz or Donald Trump as president. Off the bat I'd say Trump would be worse not only for America's reputation around the world and interests but…for America in general. But if you really think about it while Ted Cruz would do far better in a general election he's probably worse than Trump because Ted is an experienced politician that knows how to work the political system. Trump is all bluster and ignorance. He won't be able to get 3/4 of what he says he'll want and have to settle somewhere in the middle. Ted Cruz though? Oh, he'll get things done and push this nation progressively backwards. I want neither in the White House. I don't see Trump getting the nominee so I'm not even worried about him. Even if he were to get the nom (comical) he wouldn't be elected.
Ted Cruz though is worrisome. He has the best chance out of any of the Republican candidates to be elected, besides Kasich but good luck to him on getting the nod, though not a big fan of you either, man. If Ted Cruz were to actually be elected it's not like it's going to be the end of the world or anything like the candidates on both sides shape it out to be, but it would be pretty bad. Especially with a majority Republican congress? 4 years is a lot of time to do some serious damage.
I agree. I think if Trump were to actually get into the White House, he would be so incredibly ineffective that a lot of the prospective horrors wouldn't come to pass. He wouldn't make good on his outlandish promises, like the wall, because no one in government would cooperate with him. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he got impeached. The idiots who vote for him wouldn't be able to tell if he was doing his job or not, they don't follow or understand the news.
Ted Cruz is the embodiment of the very worst aspects of the Republican Party and yeah, I think he would actually be able to accomplish some of his unconscionable aims because he's, you know, an actual politician, unlike Trump.
But we're talking theoreticals here, because barring some utter disaster I reaaaaally can't see Hillary losing this election.
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Holy SHIT this was a really fucking powerful interview. I love this man!
https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/humans-of-new-yorks-brandon-stanton-on-trump-154634146.html
I liked him speaking out but when you lookat it he's getting way too much credit. I mean he said i wated to do this earlier but was worried about a reaction.
The suffering of minorities slightly beat out his needs for page views after the anti drumpf agenda caught on enough to dispel his fears about losing likes and all that
Hey good on him for doing the right thing but he's not a hero.
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@Long:
I liked him speaking out but when you lookat it he's getting way too much credit. I mean he said i wated to do this earlier but was worried about a reaction.
The suffering of minorities slightly beat out his needs for page views after the anti drumpf agenda caught on enough to dispel his fears about losing likes and all that
Hey good on him for doing the right thing but he's not a hero.
Umm alright. I guess you haven't seen how many humanitarian efforts Brandon has led across the world from New York to Pakistan? Brandon has done plenty of things which could have (and did) receive backlash from his 17 million followers, and through those he created perhaps the only place on the Internet which is overwhelmingly open, accepting and kind. He's opened minds and hearts to people and causes that didn't have enough or ANY coverage in the West (see his Iran portraits, for example).
But I guess standing up for acceptance, understanding, equality, and love through a platform you created yourself, with 17 million people watching, isn't brave?
You're wrong. Brandon is among the heroes of our generation. I'd like to see you do better.
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Ted "carpet bomb ISIS" Cruz is not a libertarian. His tax code and stance on the second amendment are probably the only things vaguely libertarian about him. He does not have a stated stance on government surveillance, is demonstrably a foreign-policy hawk and disguises his religious authoritarianism under "freedom of religion".
Gary Johnson is a libertarian. Rand Paul is (kinda) a libertarian. Justin Amash, Thomas Massie are libertarians. Ted Cruz is not. He's the human embodiment of the Tea-Party movement.
The modern republican party has a huge ingredient of Randism in it. How pure, correct, or whatever that element is another matter. But denying that just makes you look like someone asserting that Spiderman and Dan Clowes are NO NOT BOTH COMIC BOOKS WHAT I READ IS GRAPHIC NOVELS.
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Keeping a water bottle within arm's reach, naturally.
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Umm alright. I guess you haven't seen how many humanitarian efforts Brandon has led across the world from New York to Pakistan? Brandon has done plenty of things which could have (and did) receive backlash from his 17 million followers, and through those he created perhaps the only place on the Internet which is overwhelmingly open, accepting and kind. He's opened minds and hearts to people and causes that didn't have enough or ANY coverage in the West (see his Iran portraits, for example).
But I guess standing up for acceptance, understanding, equality, and love through a platform you created yourself, with 17 million people watching, isn't brave?
You're wrong. Brandon is among the heroes of our generation. I'd like to see you do better.
For this I meant, im not talkiing about his other efforts
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I read that the caucuses will go on until june. So, when exactly do both parties decide about their final nominee for pres? Could it be uncertain for Trump (for example) until july?
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Apparently, Carson endorsed Trump in return for a position later.
Not shocking, but definitely illegal.
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I read that the caucuses will go on until june. So, when exactly do both parties decide about their final nominee for pres? Could it be uncertain for Trump (for example) until july?
After all fifty states have had their chance to vote and they have their convention.
If there was a super clear and obvious winner they might skip out on that at this point, so the party could be unified behind a candidate for the rest of the year, but with it being close all around, everyone is going to go to the end.
There's no telling how the Republican mess is going to go, especially with people dropping out, but it will hopefully be a brokered convention.
Democrat side, barring something Hillary getting arrested or having a heart attack, is already pretty much won for Clinton.
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I read that the caucuses will go on until june. So, when exactly do both parties decide about their final nominee for pres? Could it be uncertain for Trump (for example) until july?
Even if a candidate wins before June, they'll still hold those events since a lot of them coincide with state and local races. Well, the primaries anyway.
Far as when it happens, it'll either happen whenever one candidate gets a majority of the delegates and that could happen as late as the convention. The magic number for the GOP is 1237 and nobody is quite on track to get those yet; the delegates won by people who dropped out will have to vote for them on the first ballot at the convention. Trump is closest but won't necessarily get there since more than half of the Republican contests have already been held and the rest are relatively small events outside of California, New York, and Pennsylvania.
For Democrats, the magic number is 2,383; the proportional manner used by the Democrats guarantees that somebody will get there. It's just a matter of when. Hillary currently has 1,139 pledged delegates, which will probably go up slightly when the votes from yesterday are finalized. Bernie has 825 and may get a few more. Add in superdelegates and Hillary has 1,606 versus 851 for Bernie. So she's around half to two-thirds of the way there and he's about a third. There are more Democratic events out there and just under half of the pledged delegates have been awarded but all of those events are proportional.Bernie would have to win every remaining state by sixteen points to catch up at this point and every state where he doesn't hit that just makes the margin that much worse.
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@Monkey:
But denying that
Where did I deny that? Most of the people I named are Republicans. The only one that's not (Johnson) used to be one.
@Monkey:
It's ok. Ted Cruz is Spiderman, Gary Johnson is Maus or whatever.
That was a rather odd way of conceding a point, but whatever.
@Monkey:
We weren't judging you together cooldud.
Eh? Where do I figure in all this?
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That was a rather odd way of conceding a point, but whatever.
Oh so you actually think comic books and "graphic novels" are different things? No wonder the metaphor didn't work for you.
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Thank you for the answers guys. Let's see what the Reps will do.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35828747
This is actually kind of funny.
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Anonymous has fired the first shots in their war against the Drumpf.
They've released his social security number, cell phone number, and some other info to the public.
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Anonymous has fired the first shots in their war against the Drumpf.
They've released his social security number, cell phone number, and some other info to the public.
I love these guys.
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If they can get his tax returns out, THAT would be interesting.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35828747
This is actually kind of funny.
Anonymous has fired the first shots in their war against the Drumpf.
They've released his social security number, cell phone number, and some other info to the public.
Wow, the hounds are on the loose now against Trump. Is this democracy? And when you know that the real danger for this whole world is not even him.
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Anonymous has fired the first shots in their war against the Drumpf.
They've released his social security number, cell phone number, and some other info to the public.
Jesus I'd be terrified if I was under on their radar.
Cell phone is one thing, but the SS number…..?!
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This feels pretty baby grade for anonymous. Doxxing?? How about something real that won't just make people feel sympathetic to him?
Also how effective is it really to doxx a billionaire? He already has a secret fucking service, do you think he'll feel afraid because people know his phone number and address?
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I get the impression from their statements that this is just the opening salvos and that there will be much more to come.
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Apparently, Carson endorsed Trump in return for a position later.
Not shocking, but definitely illegal.
House negro .
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I always wondered what kind of bad stuff can you do with someone's social security number?
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For most people someone having your SSN along with enough of your other information could lead to identity theft. That could leave financial scars that could haunt a person for decades even after they get it all sorted out. But Trump isn't most people so I doubt anyone would be stupid enough to try anything with his information. This is a nice headline but it will probably do them more harm than it will do to Trump, messing with a presidential candidate is beyond stupid.
House negro .
It's so funny to bring black people back to the dynamics slavery forced on them.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/david-duke-trump-comparisons-benefit-hitler
Uh-huh.
Just when you think one person is the epitome of delusion, another comes along and trumps them (pun intended).
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There's like a Godwin's Law in politics…or life in general.
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Speaking of Hitler references:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/grace-tilly-pbs-newshour-adds-editors-note