Still pulling for Jimbe, as he said he would join them when his business is finished and they're ready for him. I also noticed that though it's not that relevant, he has skills as a helmsman, which the SH technically do not have that position filled. So if Oda actually wants to fill a "position" for them, that's what Jimbe can "officially" be.
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I'm so glad that happened!! Just like everyones basically been saying these guys were introduced as end game allies not crew memebers but not far off either also do you think the numbers have any significance?
and I tots saw Blue Gilly and Ideo teaming up together I knew oda couldn't resist that, but def didn't see abdul and jeet teaming up with them lol
I wonder if Black Beards crew will have anti-versions of each of these characters in a father child relationship lol
the appearance of gecko moria will probably happen soon too, with a Kaidou arc coming up, do you think he will be a part time ally to help defeat Kaidou the man who killed his entire crew???
I'm pretty sure we saw a picture of his back as a broker along with CP9
and how many more allies do you think they will get????
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I'm pretty sure we saw a picture of his back as a broker along with CP9
Despite the hat, that was not Lucchi. The anime cleared that one up by giving us a cleaner shot of the guy.
Usually I won't point to the anime for anything official, but in this one case where the manga gave us a silhouette and Oda probably had to give the animation a little more to work with, it's probably okay.
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Jinbe's coming without a doubt. I hope he is waiting on Wano or Zou by now. How lovely that would be.
I do not see Jinbe missing out in any Emperor battle. It's been such a long time now in the real world and plenty of in story time for him to either leave Big Mom peacefully or get cast out like yesterday's garbage. My guess is he will be waiting for the Straw Hats at some island he'd assume they would travel to shortly after Dressrosa. From there we can get a flashback of events at the Tea Party and how much more complex the double Emperor business will be.
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Plus with all this allies Fishman island and the Sun Pirates can be protected, so his "problem" is solved.
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Plus with all this allies Fishman island and the Sun Pirates can be protected, so his "problem" is solved.
Yeah I was just thinking about that. I feel like we'll back track to Fishman Island for a battle over its control or something. Maybe the battle happens and in the process that Eve tree gets destroyed ruining life on FI as we know it. What ever the case Luffyhas a fleet to back up the claim now.
Not sure if I trust many of those guys around mermaids though…
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We'll be going back to FI eventually because theres still a lot of unresolved buisness, but we're not doing it this soon. We're like 20 minutes into the new world. Gotta go forward a ittle.
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Bellamy and Bambi girl will be the next two to join. Jinbe will be served as fish sticks for Big Mom. I'll get back to you guys with my 9-page essay on why I want this and how it'll totally work out.
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After this and possibly Jinbe joining as the helmsman or the strategist, I really just don't see any more additions to the strawhats. Oda can get so much mileage out of these seven allied groups that adding more and more members as we go seems a little much. I feel very comfortable sitting back and accepting this if this is the complete crew
For me, at least, this all comes down to WHEN we'll be seeing Jinbe and my bets are on right before or right in the middle of the Big Mom conflict.
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Bellamy and Bambi girl will be the next two to join. Jinbe will be served as fish sticks for Big Mom. I'll get back to you guys with my 9-page essay on why I want this and how it'll totally work out.
Just with the small detail that there seems to be no signal that BellaLame is joining the SH's or any other crew around.
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Bellamy and Bambi girl will be the next two to join. Jinbe will be served as fish sticks for Big Mom. I'll get back to you guys with my 9-page essay on why I want this and how it'll totally work out.
Damn the thread gets opened again and you guys go right into it.
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Oh come on, as if Felres is being serious.
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@Yosemite:
After this and possibly Jinbe joining as the helmsman or the strategist, I really just don't see any more additions to the strawhats. Oda can get so much mileage out of these seven allied groups that adding more and more members as we go seems a little much. I feel very comfortable sitting back and accepting this if this is the complete crew
For me, at least, this all comes down to WHEN we'll be seeing Jinbe and my bets are on right before or right in the middle of the Big Mom conflict.
If at the end of chapter #800 a battered Jinbe shows up to give Luffy news of the rest of the crew confronting Big Mom I will be a very, very happy man.
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Oda did say new crew members would join in succession. And it doesn't get anymore "succession-like" than 7 new different crews allied under the Straw Hat flag.
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There. Hopefully with the latest chapter this nonsense can settle some… and help soothe future discussions with a little bit of sense.
"Fun character" no longer has to be twisted and turned to be next nakama" when they can just be a part of the Luffy navy instead.
As some of us have been saying about Bart and Cavendish for some time now.
But there is still Bellamy :ninja:
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Jenbei is the next crew member.
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Jenbei is the next crew member.
Are you sure it won't be his younger brother twice removed, Jombei?
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Oda did say new crew members would join in succession. And it doesn't get anymore "succession-like" than 7 new different crews allied under the Straw Hat flag.
Was gonna bring this up. I wonder if Oda's comment was referring to the formation of the Straw Hat fleet.
I don't think it really invalidates that at least 2 more people will join though. Jinbe is a probably a lock and while he does have an existing crew, he did say that his crew just wants to return into retirement so its unlikely Jinbe will just work with his crew under another flagship.
There's also still the 2.9 2.9 numeral DF theory. Fuku fuku fits this pattern which could be taken to mean "blow" or "clothing". But I really don't want Kin'emon to join.
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Are you sure it won't be his younger brother twice removed, Jombei?
Sounds like an SBS character
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Jinbe's coming without a doubt. I hope he is waiting on Wano or Zou by now. How lovely that would be.
I do not see Jinbe missing out in any Emperor battle. It's been such a long time now in the real world and plenty of in story time for him to either leave Big Mom peacefully or get cast out like yesterday's garbage. My guess is he will be waiting for the Straw Hats at some island he'd assume they would travel to shortly after Dressrosa. From there we can get a flashback of events at the Tea Party and how much more complex the double Emperor business will be.
Jinbe's showing up with Wadatsumi.
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Those of you guys that dislike Bellamy so much are probably so afraid of Bellamy actually becoming an Strawhat because Oda didnt handle his status in this chapter despite handling every ALLY Luffy was gonna get from this arc.
@Yosemite:
After this and possibly Jinbe joining as the helmsman or the strategist, I really just don't see any more additions to the strawhats. Oda can get so much mileage out of these seven allied groups that adding more and more members as we go seems a little much. I feel very comfortable sitting back and accepting this if this is the complete crew
For me, at least, this all comes down to WHEN we'll be seeing Jinbe and my bets are on right before or right in the middle of the Big Mom conflict.
There are suppose to be 11 people not counting Luffy, so we need one more.
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Those of you guys that dislike Bellamy so much are probably so afraid of Bellamy actually becoming an Strawhat because Oda didnt handle his status in this chapter despite handling every ALLY Luffy was gonna get from this arc.
There are suppose to be 11 people not counting Luffy, so we need one more.
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Funk Brothers for nakama.
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Funk Brothers for nakama.
Were the Funk Brothers an ally of Luffy? I'll wait!
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Were the Funk Brothers an ally of Luffy? I'll wait!
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No they weren't. Because they fought for Doflamingo instead of Luffy. Exactly like Bellamy. He ain't joining anything. Not even the subordinates.
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No they weren't. Because they fought for Doflamingo instead of Luffy. Exactly like Bellamy. He ain't joining anything. Not even the subordinates.
So they didn't fight alongside Luffy and Luffy didn't care about their wellbeing… Good answer buddy, good answer!
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Bellamy is likely joining Law's crew tbh. It makes far more sense.
I am starting to think that Jinbei and the Sun pirates will be a part of the fleet rather than an individual crew member just because he has a crew. It would also solve his strength issue.
I wonder where Law and Hancock would stand in this 'fleet'. Law is an ally but i don't see him fighting under Luffy. They are about equal for now. Hancock i could see fighting under Luffy though. Kinemon as well is an interesting one. I can see him being willing to join Luffy's fleet along with a navy of Samurai but at the same time i could see the shogun not being willing for that and them just being allies like Law.
How many individual straw hats are we expecting? 2?
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Those of you guys that dislike Bellamy so much are probably so afraid of Bellamy actually becoming an Strawhat because Oda didnt handle his status in this chapter despite handling every ALLY Luffy was gonna get from this arc.
There are suppose to be 11 people not counting Luffy, so we need one more.
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Does Vivi count?
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By the way did you guys notice that Oda already drew Jinbe's personal Jolly roger.
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Does Vivi count?
I don't mind Vivi coming back as a full fledge Strawhat, but she's an honorary member of the crew.
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Bellamy is likely joining Law's crew tbh. It makes far more sense.
it does?
how?if anything,beside luffy the only one who had any meaningful interaction with bellamy was bartolomeo.
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On one hand I think that Bellamy joining the crew could be a thing. He seems to be somehow attached to Luffy, and seems to be a good guy after all. I bet people didn't imagine Robin or Franky joining the crew because they were too evil or something. People change, guys. Bellamy without Doflamingo isn't a bad guy. There is a good side in him, I'm sure about that.
Why is he so attached to Doflamingo ? I'm sure his entire flashback needs to be revealed. It's probably gonna be some tragic sh*t, like 90% of One Piece's main characters, but hey, it's always better than the one-page-flashback we've got before.
Imagine Bellamy just wanted to go on an adventure. Travel around the world, meet new people, visit new islands ; that would be his dream.
But ever since he was young, people have tried to convince him that dreams were for fools.
Doflamingo comes in and lets him join his crew. Bellamy can now fulfill his dream.Now that doesn't make sense with was he has said in that 1-page-flashback, but look at it from another angle.
Bellamy is scared to be moqued by his savior has he has all his life. So he hides his true intentions from him. That's how I see it.Another possibility is that Bellamy just changed when he met mugiwara, so his dream is yet to be set, which doesn't really mather since all the mugiwaras have announced their dreams at the end of their arc.
Another think people say quite a lot is that Bellamy doesn't match with the other mugiwaras.
Why ? Too dark ? Nope. I bet we saw him smile way more times than Robin did (well maybe not, but we haven't seen him that much).
Too evil ? Nope, once again, Robin and Franky (even Law) were considered as "bad" (at least antagonists) at the beginning.People also say that his fruit isn't original enough, that it's like the Gomu Gomu no, but weaker.
Not really ; just imagine all the things you can do with it. If you think hard enough, I'll bet you'll find some cool possibility's.Now this is a pure theory, not really a solid argument, but look :
- First member to be recruted in East Blue was Zoro, the demon.
- First member to be recruted on Grand Line was Chopper, the Monster.
- Now wouldn't it make sense for the first member to be recruted on the New World to be a hyena ? That's just my opinion, I don't think that the chances of Bellamy actually joining the crew are that high but no one knows what goes through Oda's head, right ?
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On one hand I think that Bellamy joining the crew could be a thing. He seems to be somehow attached to Luffy, and seems to be a good guy after all. I bet people didn't imagine Robin or Franky joining the crew because they were too evil or something. People change, guys. Bellamy without Doflamingo isn't a bad guy. There is a good side in him, I'm sure about that.
Robin is the only outlier when it comes to unexpected people joining the Straw Hats. Otherwise, it's properly built up with them getting plenty of screentime and their own unique flashback. It was painfully obvious that Franky was Straw Hat material when we saw him talking with Usopp during the Aqua Laguna and then the following flashback.
Bellamy just doesn't have any of that at the moment, and quite frankly, it's a bit too late at this point for it to be believable if it happened now.
Why is he so attached to Doflamingo ? I'm sure his entire flashback needs to be revealed. It's probably gonna be some tragic sh*t, like 90% of One Piece's main characters, but hey, it's always better than the one-page-flashback we've got before.
Imagine Bellamy just wanted to go on an adventure. Travel around the world, meet new people, visit new islands ; that would be his dream.
But ever since he was young, people have tried to convince him that dreams were for fools.
Doflamingo comes in and lets him join his crew. Bellamy can now fulfill his dream.Now that doesn't make sense with was he has said in that 1-page-flashback, but look at it from another angle.
Bellamy is scared to be moqued by his savior has he has all his life. So he hides his true intentions from him. That's how I see it.If Bellamy's backstory was going to be expanded beyond what Oda already wrote in a way like that, it would've happened when the one page flashback was shown, or while Bellamy was present during the fight. It has no significance now.
Another possibility is that Bellamy just changed when he met mugiwara, so his dream is yet to be set, which doesn't really mather since all the mugiwaras have announced their dreams at the end of their arc.
This isn't really true at all though. Each of the Straw Hat's dreams were hinted at in their introduction arc, and usually outright stated way before they became members of the crew. Even Robin, the only true outlier, had her dream hinted in some way during Alabasta.
Another think people say quite a lot is that Bellamy doesn't match with the other mugiwaras.
Why ? Too dark ? Nope. I bet we saw him smile way more times than Robin did (well maybe not, but we haven't seen him that much).
Too evil ? Nope, once again, Robin and Franky (even Law) were considered as "bad" (at least antagonists) at the beginning.Throwing away the lack of an extended backstory, Bellamy lacks the "quirk" or unique personality that each of the other Straw Hats have.
People also say that his fruit isn't original enough, that it's like the Gomu Gomu no, but weaker.
Not really ; just imagine all the things you can do with it. If you think hard enough, I'll bet you'll find some cool possibility's.I agree that Bellamy's fruit has more practical uses. But this really isn't a sign or a support of him becoming a Straw Hat.
Now this is a pure theory, not really a solid argument, but look :
- First member to be recruted in East Blue was Zoro, the demon.
- First member to be recruted on Grand Line was Chopper, the Monster.
- Now wouldn't it make sense for the first member to be recruted on the New World to be a hyena ?
This really isn't a solid pattern.
but no one knows what goes through Oda's head, right ?
The whole "Oda is unpredictable" thing just doesn't work. He has his patterns, and when it comes to those that will be the main characters of the series, he makes it obvious that they're going to join the crew through interactions and personality traits.
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Bellamy's quirk is that he's easily influenced, gets beat up a bunch, and is very moe. Also he arguably has more backstory than Usopp at this point.
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Bellamy's flashback doesn't have to be tied to his younger years because we already know that he comes from a wealthy city and he might have had no need for material things, but If we do get to see a younger Bellamy we might end up seeing the same thing we saw with Sabo and his parents.
Now, the beginning of Bellamy's life restarted at Mock Town and that's what we need to see the most, not him as a child but him as a dreamer.
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Another think people say quite a lot is that Bellamy doesn't match with the other mugiwaras.
Why ? Too dark ? Nope. I bet we saw him smile way more times than Robin did (well maybe not, but we haven't seen him that much).
Too evil ? Nope, once again, Robin and Franky (even Law) were considered as "bad" (at least antagonists) at the beginning.?
He's not too dark or evil, he's just very, very lame.
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I just can't understand why someone would want Bellamy on the crew. Bartolomeo is funny, Rebecca is attractive. But Bellamy? There's nothing cool about him.
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I just can't understand why someone would want Bellamy on the crew. Bartolomeo is funny, Rebecca is attractive. But Bellamy? There's nothing cool about him.
I don't think he will join but I like Bellamy because of his change of heart after his defeat and I admire him because he acknowledges his own mistakes.
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I just can't understand why someone would want Bellamy on the crew. Bartolomeo is funny, Rebecca is attractive. But Bellamy? There's nothing cool about him.
But I think he's cool and I like his personality.
I don't like Bartolomeo.
Rebecca is blander than bland, your reasoning right their feels like reaching to put her above of Bellamy.
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Bellamy's quirk is that he's easily influenced, gets beat up a bunch, and is very moe..
To think Barty's the one that throws "-senpai" around. Would up Bellamy's moe factor by 100.
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I just can't understand why someone would want Bellamy on the crew. Bartolomeo is funny, Rebecca is attractive. But Bellamy? There's nothing cool about him.
Bellamy's an actual developed character with lots of internal conflict, plus he's cocky and has that springy hyena thing going on. I'd love him on board as some sort of redemption thing.
Bart is a gag fanboy character who got annoying before he really even did anything. I kinda hope his ship sinks.
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There are suppose to be 11 people not counting Luffy, so we need one more.
Why do you believe they are suppose to be 12 people?
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With Luffy having a fleet, it seems more unlikely that anyone else beside Jinbe will join them in the future.
Who would have even more influence than for example Law and by that necessarily has to join…potential candidates can always be part of the fleet without having even more to add to the actual crew, where it anyways has to be a pain to find in each arc something to do and let not even start talking about some character development.
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Why do you believe they are suppose to be 12 people?
My bad Desa - I meant 10 thus creating space for two new members.
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With Luffy having a fleet, it seems more unlikely that anyone else beside Jinbe will join them in the future.
Who would have even more influence than for example Law and by that necessarily has to join…potential candidates can always be part of the fleet without having even more to add to the actual crew, where it anyways has to be a pain to find in each arc something to do and let not even start talking about some character development.
The more interesting question for me is, will Law stay in the alliance even after the whole Kaidou-situation won´t hover over them.The full fledge Strawhats have to match the Blackbeard Pirates.
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@$;3523511']By the way did you guys notice that Oda already drew Jinbe's personal Jolly roger.
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Notice the exclamation mark.And he kept showing the number 10 on that kid shirt(which would be Jinbe number).
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I feel like Jinbe isn't a case of if more-so than when. We already know he's going to be a Strawhat in some capacity (being part of the Fleet DOES count imo).
I do think he'll be a fulltime member, mainly cause I have a feeling if we're going to get a tragic backstory for Jinbe it'll be in Wano. Ever notice Jinbe likes to wear Japanese style clothes all the time? I think he has ties there, perhaps raised there as a child. Oh and the 10 shirt in the cover story was not a coincidence I feel.
I think it'll be Jinbe with the crew, and Hatchi being captain of another Fishman Pirate group with Camie in the Fleet.
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I feel like Jinbe isn't a case of if more-so than when. We already know he's going to be a Strawhat in some capacity (being part of the Fleet DOES count imo).
I do think he'll be a fulltime member, mainly cause I have a feeling if we're going to get a tragic backstory for Jinbe it'll be in Wano. Ever notice Jinbe likes to wear Japanese style clothes all the time? I think he has ties there, perhaps raised there as a child. Oh and the 10 shirt in the cover story was not a coincidence I feel.
I think it'll be Jinbe with the crew, and Hatchi being captain of another Fishman Pirate group with Camie in the Fleet.
Ties with Wano you say? I never heard that before and it would be pretty cool if there is a history there that eventually influenced his fashion sense.
A new poll here should be:
"When the heck will Jinbe return to join the Straw Hats?"
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I feel like Jinbe isn't a case of if more-so than when. We already know he's going to be a Strawhat in some capacity (being part of the Fleet DOES count imo).
I do think he'll be a fulltime member, mainly cause I have a feeling if we're going to get a tragic backstory for Jinbe it'll be in Wano. Ever notice Jinbe likes to wear Japanese style clothes all the time? I think he has ties there, perhaps raised there as a child. Oh and the 10 shirt in the cover story was not a coincidence I feel.
I think it'll be Jinbe with the crew, and Hatchi being captain of another Fishman Pirate group with Camie in the Fleet.
I agree with everything you've said… except for one thing that I'll quibble with where you implied that Jinbe doesn't have a tragic backstory. I would say that... yes, quite frankly he does have a tragic backstory.
I mean I think that the death of his former master Fisher Tiger at the hands of the humans that they tried to make peace with (if I remember right I mean... it's been a while since I actually read those chapters) I think that that'd effectively count as a tragic backstory. I mean... it might not be quite as bad as something like Robin's flashback, where she had her entire damn home island destroyed, or Brook dying along with his crew only to be resurrected by his fruit and live alone for 50 years of isolation but... it's more elaborate then Usopp or Zoro's at least. It certainly matches everyone else's after all.
The only thing that really goes against Jinbe being a Straw-Hat, for me at least, isn't the tragic backstory so much as the fact that... he doesn't really have a dream so far... or at least he has a very vague dream in the series, of just wanting to protect Fishman Island and fulfill Fisher Tiger's dream (and that's just what I remember, it might even be less then that). That and he also doesn't really have a position to fulfill in the crew either... but regardless he still seems like a guarantee for the 10th Straw-Hat position.
Also... I strongly believe that there will be an 11th Straw-Hat. I think that when Luffy said that there'd be "10 'men' who'd join his crew" before he entered the Grand Line (that plan obviously got adjusted pretty quickly) that that was foreshadowing for how many people would join the crew besides him. That's just what I think anyway, feel free to disagree. I will say though that one thing that does lead credence to my theory is that Blackbeard has 10 Division Captains under him (one of whom we're not sure about it, unless it's Stronger the Horse which is unlikely, and the identity of this mysterious 10th Division Captain is a mystery that will haunt me until the end of time) and since Blackbeard will be the Final Pirate villain, and possibly the final villain unless Akainu wants to step in, the idea that Luffy will face him and that 10 Straw-Hats besides Luffy will face 10 Division Captains seems to make a lot of sense for the final arc that will be here in... 2025 I presume. God... this really is The Long Runner of Shonen manga isn't it?
But I will say that... of the characters introduced right now, I do strongly believe that Bartolomeo and Kinemon are the two most likely candidates. And my votes for Bartolomeo. I'm not saying that he "will" be the 11th Straw-Hat necessarily just that... I want him to be and... of the characters introduced right now that could potentially fill that role he's the one who I think will have the biggest impact on the audience because... given how long we've gotten to know these other characters, if the final nakama isn't introduced soon (unless he's already been introduced... nudge, nudge, wink, wink) then Barto seems like the most likely candidate. Other then Kinemon but... Barto is way more interesting so my vote is for him. Please, please pretty please Oda sensei it'd make me ever so happy!!! :wub::ninja:
PS. Sorry to fanboy a little bit it's just that... I haven't wanted someone to be a Straw-Hat this much since... Franky I think... and that was like back when I was about 13 or 14, maybe even 12... and I'm 21 now so... it's been a long time since I wanted someone to be a Straw-Hat this much. I liked Brook and Jinbe just fine but... I wasn't in love with their characters like I am with Barto so... just let me have this moment. Please.
I am a bit disappointed though that Nami and Robin will remain the crew's two sole female members, unless someone else comes along (some people still suggest Hancock, who wouldn't be a bad choice mind you, I love Hancock, but I still know that she's an ally for the crew and that's probably what she'll forever remain, just like Law... unless Luffy marries her and has an offspring just like Roger and Rouge and Ace with her but... while that's not impossible we're way, way, way too far away for something like that to happen. Sorry shippers and Hancock fanboys, of which I am effectively one, but we must have realistic expectations). But anway... enough of my fanfictions, it's disappointing that if Bartolomeo joins the crew along with Jinbe that... the ratio of male to female characters in the Straw-Hat crew, will be a wopping 9 to 2... I mean, I guess 8 to 3 if another girl comes along wouldn't be too much better but... at least it'd be 1 more.
I'm not even saying this for some kind of shipper or fanservice reason, I'm not one of those guys who keeps doing that with every prominent female character that comes along in each arc (I know it's been said a million times but Rebecca is the most useless character ever... only thing I really didn't like about this arc honestly) I just... think having a 3rd female member of the crew would be a good idea. I've been saying that since around the time that Franky joined so... a bit disappointed by that but... at least I know that Hancock will always be a Straw-Hat crew member in my heart. That ain't much but... it's something at least. Sigh. A man can dream at least.
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The thing about Jinbe's dream is that no, we don't know exactly what he wants but we have probably been given some major hints. As he explained part of his history he was even unsure of who's ideals were correct, Otohime's or Tiger's. After the events of Fishman Island one might assume he's inherited the wills of both or some combination of the two anyway. Inherited will is such a strong theme in One Piece I would be absolutely shocked to find that his dream didn't involve theirs one way or another.
We'll get more detail when that scar on his face is fleshed out. Maybe his main goal has nothing to do with race relations and that's only secondary. What ever the case we will get something. Both Robin and Usopp joined before we figured out what they were about.
As for position, he could just be fighter like Zoro or get named into a position after he joins like Usopp. Chances are though it will be something simple like life guard. I know he steered a ship once but if that gets elaborated on as some great skill he has then I'll concede to the possibility of him being the helmsman.
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We will 2 get for sure. Jinbe is a given whenever he will join.
Dunno when the last one will join. (Waiting for "next chapter replies"