Where's Kouch_Lee, I wanna see his take on this.
Chapter 784 : Gear Fourth
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Gear 4th looks awesome. People saying it should like this or that get over it. It looks cool and is better then anything you would have thought of.
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Could you guys explain something?
If Luffy came up with G4 in this timeskip training, how is this a shout-out to Bellamy?Simple: arlong parks crazyness.
No seriously i remember people speculating it in the spoiler thread butdid it continue after the chapters release? -
I think he means that instead of being met with a solid surface, as would be usual with something that's been covered with CoA, Luffy is still retaining his elasticity.
Still it must be a specificity of G4, because elasticity didn't help against Doflamingo's punches in their previous clashes. As you said, inflated muscles and maybe whatever G4 is doing to the elastic properties of his rubber body
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I just finished reading the new chapters for the big 3, I got to say this was an awesome week for them!!!
Why the heck are people calling Bleach big3? Toriko took its spot years ago, and then lost it to Assasination Classroom and Naruto I believe lost it also by the end…and even though I haven't read Bleach in months I dobut ti was awesome lol.
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The sheer simplicity G4 represents makes it so very appealing. Just being pure rubber, bouncing around, repelling force like it's nothing, and Luffy's looks to top it off– absolutely brilliant. Love it.
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OMG, Gear 4 was fucking badass!!
I'll post more of my thoughts later today since I do have a LOT more to say about it. :)
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So Monkey just turned into Gorilla
In a way, yes. lol
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I kinda felt like Doffy while reading this… "WTF is going on?!" :blink:
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This new Gear is pure gold. It's Nightmare Luffy, with new unique design elements in retractible punches and a hilarious bouncing movement style.
It's Luffy's new battle form. I instantly loved it when it bounced after Dofla stupidly. It's the essence of Luffy and Oda.The swirls are maybe a little jarring and I never liked the jet black haki as a visual representation of hardening. But aside from that visual noise, I love it in concept and design.
I really think that the blackening effect is the reason people aren't liking the design. I urge you to imagine the same Luffy without the black, and then tell me it would'nt feel several times better.
Reasoning: Everyone liked Nightmare Luffy. This is pretty much a more unique, more hilarious nightmare Luffy. So what's new that's not to like? You tell me.
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For those worried about gear 4 for being the go to for big fights he probably wont be able to use it verse blackbeard since he can remove his rubber powers but we'll see.
I personally really liked this chapter and luffys gear. A big plus for me with new gears/ power ups is the new naming scheme for moves (this time being cannons as people pointed out). This fight is far from over and doffly has yet to even get serious imo I think this fight has the potential to far outsurpass luffy vs lucci! Part of me hopes there isn't a gear 5 to finish donflamingo I hope its a gear 2, 3 or possbily 4 attack but I guess if gear 5 is cool enough It could be worth it. But I just feel like having a gear 5 reveal in the same fight as gear 4 was revealed will really devalue gear 4. -
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LOL so this fan art was real? Maybe the guy used to work for Oda, or he just had a dumb guess.
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Do you think this will have some meaning as the old color spread which has forshadowed Ace's death?
There was a colour spread that foreshadowed Ace's death?
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Thank God I red manga-joy scans first. I don´t even wanna say what I think about manga panda or his twin manga reader…
Aand, I was right about G4. I like it very much, it´s like the combination of all his previous techniques included nightmare Rufy. This chapter was better than a coffee with cream. -
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I'm not sure about the design of it, but I really like the idea behind Gear 4th. I love the spring/canon like attack Luffy did. At the same time maybe the design is intentionally this way because there is possible room for refining it. Another chapter where I wasn't very sure about the spoilers, but the chapter itself turned out to actually be really good.
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The point is that I can't really see gear 4 as an alternative to the previous gears. To me it feels much more like an upgrade because for it to be just an alternative, we would have to see quick changes between gear 2,3 and 4 (we already saw combinations of gear 2 and 3 post-timeskip). I don't feel like we're going to see Luffy in gear 2 in one pannel, doing large scale destruction in gear 3 in the other, and finishing it off with a punch of concentrated force in the last. I mean, imagine Luffy going gear 4 etc, dealing some major damage and in the last moment (when the opponent is immobilized) changing back to gear 3 to deal the finishing blow (assuming gear 3 does more damage?). Visually, I think it seems unlikely he's going to change from being his bulky self in gear 4 to being his small self in gear 3. Still, I can see the point of gear 3 as large scale destruction. As for gear 2, he couldn't deal any damage to Doflamingo with it so it makes me wonder what enemies he will face where gear 2 will be superior to gear 4 in combat.
and here is my prediction G 3+G 4 as a finishing move !!! :ninja: thats kings punch times 3!!! :)
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For me the retraction/explosive force of G4 mixed with the haki would have been enough of an upgrade. I'm not sold on the big haki gorilla Luffy design at all…
But then I didn't like Franky's post-timeskip makeover either but came to appreciate it pretty quickly. I'm sure I'll get used to this one too.
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Wow luffy looks like shit! I hope Oda will at least have other g4 forms up his sleeve.
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I really dig the design for Gear 4, Pretty much a tribal Nightmare Luffy, more compact and stable than Gear 3. I also for the first read-through, thought it had a sort of panda vibe, making me wonder if Oda was giving a shout out to Pandaman enthusiasts, but perhaps it's just the manga being in black and white, and the Manga-Reader translating it into "Pound Man" which by it's similarities immediately give off a Pandaman vibe. -_-
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Is there a poll somewhere about the new gear? If not, it should be made :<
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I don't know if anyone pointed it out yet, but one page one, you can see some random pirate carry an old married couple away from the birdcage
that's so adorable~~
also, GET WRECKED MINGO
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Actually, part of me is pretty happy that Luffy looks "stupid" because One Piece isn't a "cool" series to begin with, which is one of the reasons why I love it. I actually like seeing how people trash the form because it's not what you expect a "cool" shounen powerup to be. I like that idea behind it, One Piece knows it's goofy and never forgets that.
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G4 aside, it was interesting to see Zoro say that they were going to stop the birdcage.
Looks like Mingo's fate is to have his killer move defeated by the people rising up against it. Because the buildings aren't being sliced the strings can't be that sharp - I can see a lot of people pitching in to stop the shrinking of the cage while at the same time Mingo gets a royal beatdown from Luffy.
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Do you think this will have some meaning as the old color spread which has forshadowed Ace's death?
The zombies were present during the void century
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There was a colour spread that foreshadowed Ace's death?
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@zeff:
The zombies were present during the void century
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It reads 944 though? The void century was long ended already by then, no?
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I was wondering if the date nay have had to do with a voice actor dying. But I think that was in June and January. If it's a foreshadowing thing Ibguess we wait till next December to see?
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The concept is using Nightmare Luffy with Armament Haki.
Doflamingo was implying that the parts hardened by Haki loose the fruit user ability when touch it? Like if u touch a Hardened Akainu's arm you wont burn?
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The concept is using Nightmare Luffy with Armament Haki.
Doflamingo was implying that the parts hardened by Haki loose the fruit user ability when touch it? Like if u touch a Hardened Akainu's arm you wont burn?
Basically what I said, but he learned how to retract his arm into himself which I find epic.
That's interesting to me too, maybe it is related to Akainu getting cut with Haki by Shanks and not dying?
Love Luffy bouncing after Doffy all serious.
How does his hand just bounce off the air like that after Doffy?
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Actually, part of me is pretty happy that Luffy looks "stupid" because One Piece isn't a "cool" series to begin with, which is one of the reasons why I love it. I actually like seeing how people trash the form because it's not what you expect a "cool" shounen powerup to be. I like that idea behind it, One Piece knows it's goofy and never forgets that.
I agree! Oda never really wants there to be a fight that's totally serious. But I feel that when the jokes are done and the climax is coming, that's when the fans really get excited because they know the shit's about to hit the fan.
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Was I the only one that thought of Megaman when he drew in his fist for that kong pistol?
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Wow I guess the big predictions did come true, what a chapter, colorspread is top notch too, thank god it's Thursday!!!!
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I agree! Oda never really wants there to be a fight that's totally serious. But I feel that when the jokes are done and the climax is coming, that's when the fans really get excited because they know the shit's about to hit the fan.
Yeah, I understand the dislike for in in that sense, I guess, but I really like the dissonence of it looking wierd, but actually being really smart. I don't know if that's an appropriate comparison, but initially computers were really huge and clunky and ugly-looking, but as time when on, they were refined. An invention that is really smart might not always end up looking the most graceful. Does that make sense?
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I'm in love with the color spread. Theme, character interactions, humor, there's nothing I don't like about it. Not to mention Brook wearing the Beetlejuice suit!!! Fantastic way to start a chapter.
Love Gear 4. It powers up Luffy in a way that makes sense. Interested in seeing what toll it'll take on his body and/or side-effects when deactivated.
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I kinda didn't want a big Nightmare Luffy thing but I actually love the concept and how it works, so I'm liking Gear 4 a lot.
Doflamingo is taking a beating I didn't expect it to go so smooth after Luffy got Gear 4th, it hasn't ended but Doflamingo looks absolutelly helpless right now, seeing him on the streets make me think hes probably going to do something cheap like use the citizens or someone else.
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Did you guys understand doffys last sentence? Why does what not shrink ? Luffys body ?
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Did you guys understand doffys last sentence? Why does what not shrink ? Luffys body ?
He wondered why his arm didn't contract like with the kong gun.
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Stupid question time: does Luffy have a title for the other gears? In this chapter, he said " Gear 4, Bound Man". Does that mean there might be variations in Gear 4?
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Did you guys understand doffys last sentence? Why does what not shrink ? Luffys body ?
Luffy's arm after the attack.
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This week, the Bleach Chapter was Good.
The Boruto Chapter was Great!
The Toriko Chapter was AWESOME!!
BUT THIS ONE PIECE CHAPTER WAS…............GODA!!!!First Up, that is the best Colour Spread I have seen in a while; the Zombie Woman chewing on Sanji was great.
Congrats people who predicted Gear 4th was Muscle and Haki-based. But I bet you still did not see Bounce-Man coming; that whole 'limbs retracting into his body' thing just made if even more awesome IMO. Luffy can use freakin' Geppou; I can only hope Sanji ges Rankyaku someday to combine with Diable Jamble.
Is it weird that after the first attack landed on Doflamingo, I paced around my house for like 5 minutes before I could continue reading? Cue people saying that's light stuff compared to what this chapter made them do. I hope nobody caused a scene.................though it would be perfectly justified if you did.
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I love how Kabuki Gear Fourth looks. I've been waiting soooooo long for Luffy to punch the smile off Doflamingo's face, and this ark has been worth the wait.
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Stupid question time: does Luffy have a title for the other gears? In this chapter, he said " Gear 4, Bound Man". Does that mean there might be variations in Gear 4?
Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
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How long is the Golden Week break? I remember it being several weeks, but I'm not sure.
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How long is the Golden Week break? I remember it being several weeks, but I'm not sure.
Haha, no, no, it's just one week :)
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He wondered why his arm didn't contract like with the kong gun.
True! Makes sense. Thanks. Guess doffy got his answer pretty fast.
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I have not gone through the thread yet but I think no one should jump to conclusion regarding the mechanics of gear 4 seeing that in the very chapter Doffy himself is trying to figure it out, not even Luffy explains how it works as yet. One thing I gather is that Doffy is surprise and confuse at the same time as he can't understand how Haki can be applied to a rubber body that is how I interpret that scene at least.
My take on it is that Luff applies haki to his harm as he stretche so and my reason for that is because while we have seen Luffy applying haki to his harm he only apply it on the part that is going to make impact with an enemy or thing, I could be wrong as I have not gone through the past chapters. I feel that Luffy cotes his harm as it stretch and that is one of the reasons he his able to make it change direction, therefore once he apply haki that part then becomes hard and the other part that that haki is not applied stretches. I hope what I am saying is understandable.
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luffy is now franky i love it
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Emperors beware, here comes Gear Fourth Luffy! The bouncy Rubber-ball man with retractable arms! He is the basketball of doom!
Anyway, I really enjoyed this hilariously ridiculous monstrosity, but I could tell from my first glance at it that this design was really not going to appeal to some people. But its here to stay (though it might not be used too often), so hopefully everyone will come around to it eventually.
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I have not gone through the thread yet but I think no one should jump to conclusion regarding the mechanics of gear 4 seeing that in the very chapter Doffy himself is trying to figure it out, not even Luffy explains out it works as yet. One thing I gather is that Doffy is surprise and confuse at the same time as he can't understand how Haki can be applied to a rubber body that is how I interpret that scene at least.
My take on it is that Luff cote is harm in haki as he stretcheso and my reason for that is because while we have seen Luffy coating his harm he only coat the part that is going to make impact with an enemy or thing, I could be wrong as I have not gone through the past chapters. I feel that Luffy cotes his harm as it stretch and that is one of the reasons he his able to make it change direction, therefore once he apply haki that part then becomes hard and the other part that that haki is not applied stretches. I hope what I am saying is understandable.
i've been thinking about this ability khaki thing for awhile like in MF where WB stabs Aokiji and nothing happens i think it's because Luffy and Aokiji both had better khaki than their opponents that they could use their abilities in defence…
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I still think the colorspread looks disturbing. Not only did one zombie loose his head, another lost his arm.
I can totally understand Doofy's reaction to Gear 4, even the townfolk of Dressrosa agrees. It looks ridiculous, albeit in a good way and it gives Luffy dozen of possibilities for new techniques.
Doffy's comment about rubber surprises me a little bit because strings aren't that impressive either. Never the less, Doffy's power (especially Black Knight) is like a human 3D printer. He should know from experience what a devilfruit user is capable of.