Dellinger went down fine, the guy took out like four gladiators, we learnt about his persona enough for people to love him.
Chapter 772: Cabbage & Romeo
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Dellinger just moved up the favorites rank.
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You know, I like all these new characters and all, and I think that boxer should have done more, but I just want to see the Straw Hats! I hope next chapter shows Franky and his fight. I hope Robin isn't there to just take Rebecca away from the battlefield, which I have the feeling might be the case. It just feels weird to me that the only strawhats actually fighting the Dofla crew are just Luffy, Zoro, and Franky
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A pretty fun chapter. A little hectic, but it seems to be pulling all the characters together, so I don't mind. I hope Dellinger isn't down yet. Maybe I'm a bit biased cause he's my favorite villain this arc, but I want to see more from him.
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Of all the lower Donquixote members Dellinger is the one I wish most we'd seen more of. Jora and Sugar were meh, Buffalo and Machvise were boring, Lao G just never grabbed me, and I'm satisfied with the time Señor Pink and Gladius have recieved. But Dellinger? Now there was a vicious little genderqueer halfbreed psychopath after my own heart. Respect to Ideo, but you just didn't give us the fight we needed. Fighting fish-bro will be missed.
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Don't know bro, after seeing how Gladious has been portrayed I don't think that Hakuba will really have an easy win.
I can see the guys on level four falling to level 3 thus placing every body that is currently standing in there, Pica is planning something and this something better involves everybody around him cuz I need a freaking trainwreck.
Yuup, the entire place keeps being modified, not only by Pica but also Diamante and Gladius can make some changes too, there is no need on stuck with that "Cabbage can't climb" bullcrap, from all the ways Cabbage and Trebol can meet up, climbing was the most boring one anyways.
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LOL… wonder what sort of situations one can get away with using that image...
You just made me save that image to my troll collection album which only have 4 images.
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Yuup, the entire place keeps being modified, not only by Pica but also Diamante and Gladius can make some changes too, there is no need on stuck with that "Cabbage can't climb" bullcrap, from all the ways Cabbage and Trebol can meet up, climbing was the most boring one anyways.
Yeah, too bad Robin will deal with Trebol lol
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Yuup, the entire place keeps being modified, not only by Pica but also Diamante and Gladius can make some changes too, there is no need on stuck with that "Cabbage can't climb" bullcrap, from all the ways Cabbage and Trebol can meet up, climbing was the most boring one anyways.
There's still a lot of other problems such as the fact that Hakuba won't go away until everybody in the vicinity is down and Trébol is still immobile at the top of the palace.
And with Hakuba already making an appearance, there's very little time to set up a conflict between the two before he sleeps the rest of the arc out.
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Yeah, too bad Robin will deal with Trebol lol
Are you…..saying you want that to happen? Don't play with my emotions! I wish that happens so bad!
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I'm loving these fights so far. They're so much more then I expected! Unlike traditional 1v1 fights in other manga, these are brawls that was building multiple characters at once. I feel like we're getting so much each chapter.
I hope it's not the end for Dellinger! While a slash across the chest is difficult to come back from, if anyone could do it it'd be a fishperson hybrid. I'm hoping for at least a few more words, maybe one more attempted attack before Hakuba takes him down! If not, at least the upcoming drama with Hakuba will be interesting. Gladius seems sharper then Dellinger, I'm guessing he's not going to go down easy.
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Are you…..saying you want that to happen? Don't play with my emotions! I wish that happens so bad!
Oh no - for me that is a fact among facts.
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If D-Block is any evidence, he goes back to sleep either after a time limit or when everybody around is knocked out.
So, in the 2nd scenario, Barto and Gladius would need to be defeated before going back to sleep. And in the 1st, he wouldn't be able to climb an entire level and then the castle in such a short time.
But the thing is that he would give priority to the nearest person.
Now that I think about it, does Cavendish have a crew or does he go canooing with his horse alone?
How would a crew be safe with someone who will go crazy shit at any time he falls asleep?. Man how does he manage to go from island to island?
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Trebol is in one piece again and seems to be just fine, not wanting no interfere with Doula's seweing reality show doesn't mean he still can't move, besides Pica is planning to do some serious shit that could drastically change the position of various characters, there are plenty of chances for them to meet up actually.
As for if Cabbage can actually defeat Trebol, there is only one way to find out
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Trebol is in one piece again and seems to be just fine, not wanting no interfere with Doula's seweing reality show doesn't mean he still can't move, besides Pica is planning to do some serious shit that could drastically change the position of various characters, there are plenty of chances for them to meet up actually.
As for if Cabbage can actually defeat Trebol, there is only one way to find out
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I don't really see why Pica would even allow the people on the lower levels to reach the palace more easily. Isn't that what he preventing to do in the first place?
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Accidents happen, that would be a "whooopsiee". And then back to his job.
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So both Pica and Zoro decided to take a quick break. And Kyros seems to be getting tired. I bet the Zoro fans are all dying to see a Hakuba vs. Zoro fight…
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You just made me save that image to my troll collection album which only have 4 images.
LOL Glad to be of service… and what are those images?? Enquiring minds want to know!
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I would have prefer Cavendish to take care of stuff rather than Hakuba.
Liked Baby 5 and Dellinger owned quite a lot before going down.
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Hajrudin and Cavendish are pirates. And the Happou Navy is hinted to be made up of pirates too.
In fact, so far everybody has been defeated by pirates, except Buffalo.
It's the same ol' story that everyone that doesn't comply to the laws of WG is considered a pirate.
Hajrudin is called "pirate mercenary" which means everything and nothing at the same time since a pirate is not a mercenary.
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I liked how Oda keeps steel imbued with haki something useful even after all of "cutting steel" theme we had before.
Without it things like Burgess armor or Diamantes cape would be useful.I cannot wait until Diamante takes of his metal cape and he starts to blitz all around Kyros(if Oda will go that route of course). I would have no problem with that and it would remind me about Rock Lee and his "genious" theme when he fought G guy and dropped weights from his legs to become much faster- close to beginning when Naruto manga was pretty good.
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Nmaan, you were taking too long on putting the picture as avatar, I pointed out that Diamante's face since first page, I thought I was gonna see it all over the thread.
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Ha this chapter was simply great but it did lack a page or two (spreadsheets or not) cause it was a bit short. But really great chapter and I really love Bartolomeo and Cavendish kinda want them to join, although I know it wont happen. But man those two are great together lol
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Nmaan, you were taking too long on putting the picture as avatar, I pointed out that Diamante's face since first page, I thought I was gonna see it all over the thread.
I already have one face in mind from this chapter that would suit me far better so just wait
Also your TrebolxCabbage looks more possible than it was. I guess it will be Picas doing with shifting shape of palace and levels once again during next chapter. Trebol might fall because of that or Hakuba will be able to go up with shape shift of everything around.
Btw Barto could have won his block in seconds I guess - thats why he was just on ground letting everybody fight out and not just Buldozer the shit out of them pushing them all out of ring. Brato is a nice guy all around :happy:
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aw sabinis I was debating whether to use that avatar or not and you beat me to it :C
was it mentioned that Diamante´s been using haki on his cape? I thought it just broke the swords for being made of solid steel
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It reminds me of the Dolan Pls meme.
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aw sabinis I was debating whether to use that avatar or not and you beat me to it :C
was it mentioned that Diamante´s been using haki on his cape? I thought it just broke the swords for being made of solid steel
I think that Kyros doesnt hold back with his attacks.
Its hard to tell if CoA hardening was used on cape same as its hard to tell if Black Leg Sanji is using it on his legs.. We can just assume that those guys are not holding back.
Ah one more thing - funny that there is so many ground affecting powers in this arc. I hope that in volume/ on paper this chapter show off of Diamante and Gladius looks different enough as they reminded me one another bit much so to say.
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yeah I was telling a friend that very same thing, Diamante´s gotta go and kick Gladius in the ass for being a copy cat.
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I've tried sorting on how much is left, here's my analysis below of all the fights involved in this war. I made some assumptions on whose knocked out or "done" fighting in this war.
Bold = Defeated
Underline = Done, Not-CompetingGladiators: Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao, Sai, Boo, Abdulla + Jeet, Blue Gilly, Funk Bros, Dagama, Elizabello, Hajrudin, Ideo, Orlumbus, Suleiman,
Dofla Crew: Dolfla, Trebol, Diamante, Pica, Sugar, Jora, Lao G, Senor Pink, Machvise, Dellinger, Gladius, Buffalo, Baby 5
Others: Kyros, Rebecca, Violet, Bellamy, Law, Kanjurou, Kinemon
SH Crew: Usopp, Robin, Franky, Zoro, LuffyCleaning it up for remainders:
Gladiators: Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Abdulla + Jeet, Elizabello, Orlumbus
Dofla Crew: Dolfla, Trebol, Diamante, Pica, Senor Pink, Gladius
Others: Kyros, Rebecca, Bellamy, Law
SH Crew: Robin, Franky, Zoro, Luffy
Rearranging to represent current fights:
Barto + Cavendish vs. Gladius
Franky vs. Senor Pink
Kyros+Rebecca+Robin vs. Diamante
Zoro vs. Pica
Luffy+Law vs. Dofla+Trebol+Bellamy
Unaccounted: Abdulla + Jeet, Elizabello, OrlumbusBased on this, I think the chapters will knock out Gladius next, then Senor Pink, then Diamante, then Pika, and then Dofla/Trebol/Bellamy in that order. The things that I haven't figured out is, where the unaccounted fighters might prop up. We know for a fact Elizabello is going to help Zoro, but I'm not sure Orlumbus is actually going to return after his brief display of power. Abdulla + Jeet have been AWOL since the whole trap ordeal. Also, with Law with only one arm, I'm not sure if he or someone else will handle Trebol. At the moment, no available fighter seems of the level of Trebol, unless Barto/Cavendish break apart and one heads up.
Welp, that's my analysis at least
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Cabbage isn't taking out Trebol, it's pretty obvious now. More of chance of Luffy or Law just OHKO'ing Trebol at this point. Also even more in favor of the Robin vs Trebol theory now, compared to just a few chapters ago.
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Gladiators: Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao, Sai, Boo, Abdulla + Jeet, Blue Gilly, Funk Bros, Dagama, Elizabello, Hajrudin, Ideo, Orlumbus, Suleiman,
Dofla Crew: Dolfla, Trebol, Diamante, Pica, Sugar, Zoro, Jora, Lao G, Senor Pink, Machvise, Dellinger, Gladius, Buffalo, Baby 5
Others: Kyros, Rebecca, Violet, Bellamy, Law, Kanjurou, Kinemon
SH Crew: Usopp, Robin, Franky, Luffyfixed that for you:ninja:
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Great chapter! Love every page of it!
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I can feel it, Diamante vs Robin and Rebecca is coming soon.
Diamante will defeat Kyros, then Rebecca will decide to fight and protect her father of course with Robin's help (plus Robin's fruit won't be much OP against Diamante due to his abilities). -
As much as I would love Robin to have a fight, I don't want her to come in on the Rebecca & Kyros Vs Diamante fight. She'd just feel really out of place there, it's like some random outsider coming in on a grudge match. I also can't see her taking on Trebol as I can't imagine a worse match up for Robin's powers than him. I do hope she does something cool though.
The Barty and Cabbage tag team is hilarious. I'm glad that I'm enjoying One Piece chapters again now that we've finally stopped running and started fighting.
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In defense of Fights:
I like fights in One Piece. Call me a "Battle Whore!!" or whatever, but I think they are a fun, essential part of the experience. That does not mean that I find it interesting to see two bland characters pummel each other wordlessly and unimaginatevely, and should "just go read Bleach then if you like fights lasting more than a few pages so much".
Fights in One Piece contain humor, drama, character development and introspection, soaring emotions, memorable moments, viscerally satisfying conclusions, and yes, just the pure fun of well-choreographed action and imaginative use of powers.Usopp/Chopper vs the Mr 4 pair didn't need to be three chapters long, but it was entertaining, and made for some highly memorable Usopp moments. Franky didn't need to spend 3 chapters fighting Fukurou, but it was friggin hilarious, and very distinct and creative. Robin didn't need to spend 12 pages brutalizing Yama, but it was bloody awesome. Fights are part of OPs identity and contain a lot of OPs flavor; If you asked me if I wanted an abridged version of the Sea Train chase where Sanji takes out a pointless filler villain like Wanze in just three pages, I'd say hell no.
We didn't NEED a chapter like 771. But it was pretty great, right?
Fights are an ideal source of awesome character moments, and that goes for villains too. OP henchmen don't always get to do much before their big final fights, but the spotlight of those fights allow them to go out in a blaze of memorability that makes you feel like you got your moneys worth from the character. Prior to last week Lao G hadn't really said or done much beyond his introduction in the fun elevator scene, but chapter 771 compensates by being jam-packed with Lao G goodness. Theres fun jokes, elaboration on his abilities, and the funny old man is even given a sinister edge in his attitude towards Baby 5. The chapter focuses almost exclusively on the Happo Navy people, Lao G has been focusing his fighting efforts on the Happo Navy people, and so when Lao G is dramatically taken out by the Happo Navy people, it is a satisfying conclusion.
With Dellinger, his apparent exit from the story is walking into some other peoples fight, then getting blindsided. What a thrilling resolution to the exciting Dellinger-Cavendish battle. As boring as he is, it'd have been more satisfying to just have Ideo get brutalized by Dellinger some more, only to land a final superpowered sucker punch to take out Dellinger.
Besides, I thought people liked these Coliseum guys and Doflamingo Officers? Why would you want to see the time spent on them limited so, then?
"Dellinger is so cool, I like seeing Dellinger in action, now lets be done with him and not waste anymore time on this unimportant character"
I guess the several full chapters of slow-progress block B/C coliseum fighting really were just boring wastes of time after all, which people were right to hate? They could've just named the characters and be done with it in quick montages.You can always say that "Theres so many characters now, Odas not as young as he once was, he wants to finish this before he dies so he can't spend that much time on stuff"
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it'd have been more satisfying to just have Ideo get brutalized by Dellinger some more, only to land a final superpowered sucker punch to take out Dellinger.
But then, that would be too cliché.
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I've tried sorting on how much is left, here's my analysis below of all the fights involved in this war. I made some assumptions on whose knocked out or "done" fighting in this war.
Bold = Defeated
Underline = Done, Not-CompetingGladiators: Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao, Sai, Boo, Abdulla + Jeet, Blue Gilly, Funk Bros, Dagama, Elizabello, Hajrudin, Ideo, Orlumbus, Suleiman,
Dofla Crew: Dolfla, Trebol, Diamante, Pica, Sugar, Jora, Lao G, Senor Pink, Machvise, Dellinger, Gladius, Buffalo, Baby 5
Others: Kyros, Rebecca, Violet, Bellamy, Law, Kanjurou, Kinemon
SH Crew: Usopp, Robin, Franky, Zoro, LuffyCleaning it up for remainders:
Gladiators: Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Abdulla + Jeet, Elizabello, Orlumbus
Dofla Crew: Dolfla, Trebol, Diamante, Pica, Senor Pink, Gladius
Others: Kyros, Rebecca, Bellamy, Law
SH Crew: Robin, Franky, Zoro, Luffy
Rearranging to represent current fights:
Barto + Cavendish vs. Gladius
Franky vs. Senor Pink
Kyros+Rebecca+Robin vs. Diamante
Zoro vs. Pica
Luffy+Law vs. Dofla+Trebol+Bellamy
Unaccounted: Abdulla + Jeet, Elizabello, OrlumbusBased on this, I think the chapters will knock out Gladius next, then Senor Pink, then Diamante, then Pika, and then Dofla/Trebol/Bellamy in that order. The things that I haven't figured out is, where the unaccounted fighters might prop up. We know for a fact Elizabello is going to help Zoro, but I'm not sure Orlumbus is actually going to return after his brief display of power. Abdulla + Jeet have been AWOL since the whole trap ordeal. Also, with Law with only one arm, I'm not sure if he or someone else will handle Trebol. At the moment, no available fighter seems of the level of Trebol, unless Barto/Cavendish break apart and one heads up.
Welp, that's my analysis at least
Oi oi, give Hajrudin some credit. Bold+Underline!
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Man, I love the way you just keep putting words on other people's mouths.
Shrugs I have to deal with twenty plus people doing this shit to me all the time, because they can't come into terms with the fact that one can like something while finding it faulty.
For that matter, if I accused you unjustly, I apologize, though if I recall you were one of the people who defended both the setup and the pace it was done at from me.
Also, "defending whatever Oda does"? It's not my fault I'm not a nitpicky critic like you with ridiculous standards for a comic book written by a middle-aged family man.
Every time a critisism is laid towards any aspect of the series you take a contrarian stance to it, for better or worse. It got to the point that you were the only person to match my levels of posting just because you were constantly defending certain plot points.
Biases aren't bad, but it's important to acknowledge you have them.
For that matter, it doesn't matter that Oda is middle-aged or a family man. A work of art should stand on it's own, regardless of who the author is.
And you never see people trying to defend Togashi on those grounds, for example.
Weren't you complaining that Dressrosa was getting too long? Now you want it to be longer?
No, I was complaining that overall pace was bad because of how many subplots there are.
I also argued that if we are going to have them, they should be more developed, even at further damage to said pace.
Overall pace is too slow. Pace of individual plots is too fast. If I had to decide which one I would like to change, it would've been the latter.
Without the Colosseum, we wouldn't have those gladiators out there. It was needed to introduce those fighters. How the hell is it a side-story?
It has little to do with the main story arc, was created to distract Luffy and introduce tertiary characters and is resolved by secondary character with little to no stakes in the main story arc.
It's the definition of side story, even if it ties to the main one.
You know the build up happened 25 chapters ago, right? That's half a year right there. Those fights had already started 20 chapters ago, and the gladiators and officers were already fighting by then with named characters already dropping out. Right now, we're getting the results, and they're most likely going to take around 10 chapters including the last 3 ones.
While I would've liked a bit more focus on Dellinger and Co., we certainly don't need more than one chapter to deal with them. It would kill the momentum we've been getting lately. The flashback itself required a recap right after it to make people remember what was happening in present time (because it lasted 2 months).
One chapter focused on him would be fine.
But there isn't.
We get five pages of Dellinger, after which he get's taken out by character that is a complete blank slate with the exception of apparent psychopathy.
Yes, we've had significant build-up. What I'm arguin is that the pay-off does not live up to the hype.
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But then, that would be too cliché.
That's not a definition of cliché.
If anything, it would be a trope.
But even then, Oda has plenty of those. It all depends on how well they are implemented. Just because something was done before or is considered stereotypical, it doesn't automaticaly make it bad.
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Hakubo is a good solution to this crowded scene.
I don't think Dellinger needs that much of a screen-time. Maybe more pages, yes, but this suffice. They were indications that he was half fish and Oda made it clear now. But what is more to him? A child that grew up with Doflamingo and that's it. And he lost… He just fights, not like he does anything else or has some character established to himself.
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That's not a definition of cliché.
cliché
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noun: cliché; plural noun: clichés; noun: cliche; plural noun: cliches-
a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.
"that old cliché ‘a woman's place is in the home’"- a very predictable or unoriginal thing or person.
"each building is a mishmash of tired clichés"
- a very predictable or unoriginal thing or person.
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cliché
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noun: cliché; plural noun: clichés; noun: cliche; plural noun: cliches-
a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.
"that old cliché ‘a woman's place is in the home’"- a very predictable or unoriginal thing or person.
"each building is a mishmash of tired clichés"
- a very predictable or unoriginal thing or person.
Wait, side characters defeating antagonists it's not something that could be considered predictable in a Shonen Manga.
If anything, vast majority of them make a point of everyone but main protagonist being useless.
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In defense of Fights:
I like fights in One Piece. Call me a "Battle Whore!!" or whatever, but I think they are a fun, essential part of the experience. That does not mean that I find it interesting to see two bland characters pummel each other wordlessly and unimaginatevely, and should "just go read Bleach then if you like fights lasting more than a few pages so much".
Fights in One Piece contain humor, drama, character development and introspection, soaring emotions, memorable moments, viscerally satisfying conclusions, and yes, just the pure fun of well-choreographed action and imaginative use of powers.Usopp/Chopper vs the Mr 4 pair didn't need to be three chapters long, but it was entertaining, and made for some highly memorable Usopp moments. Franky didn't need to spend 3 chapters fighting Fukurou, but it was friggin hilarious, and very distinct and creative. Robin didn't need to spend 12 pages brutalizing Yama, but it was bloody awesome. Fights are part of OPs identity and contain a lot of OPs flavor; If you asked me if I wanted an abridged version of the Sea Train chase where Sanji takes out a pointless filler villain like Wanze in just three pages, I'd say hell no.
We didn't NEED a chapter like 771. But it was pretty great, right?
Fights are an ideal source of awesome character moments, and that goes for villains too. OP henchmen don't always get to do much before their big final fights, but the spotlight of those fights allow them to go out in a blaze of memorability that makes you feel like you got your moneys worth from the character. Prior to last week Lao G hadn't really said or done much beyond his introduction in the fun elevator scene, but chapter 771 compensates by being jam-packed with Lao G goodness. Theres fun jokes, elaboration on his abilities, and the funny old man is even given a sinister edge in his attitude towards Baby 5. The chapter focuses almost exclusively on the Happo Navy people, Lao G has been focusing his fighting efforts on the Happo Navy people, and so when Lao G is dramatically taken out by the Happo Navy people, it is a satisfying conclusion.
With Dellinger, his apparent exit from the story is walking into some other peoples fight, then getting blindsided. What a thrilling resolution to the exciting Dellinger-Cavendish battle. As boring as he is, it'd have been more satisfying to just have Ideo get brutalized by Dellinger some more, only to land a final superpowered sucker punch to take out Dellinger.
Besides, I thought people liked these Coliseum guys and Doflamingo Officers? Why would you want to see the time spent on them limited so, then?
"Dellinger is so cool, I like seeing Dellinger in action, now lets be done with him and not waste anymore time on this unimportant character"
I guess the several full chapters of slow-progress block B/C coliseum fighting really were just boring wastes of time after all, which people were right to hate? They could've just named the characters and be done with it in quick montages.You can always say that "Theres so many characters now, Odas not as young as he once was, he wants to finish this before he dies so he can't spend that much time on stuff"
Which is likely true, and is an explanation.
But an explanation =/= the new format being as good or satisfying as before.Mostly agree with everything you said here. I sometimes find myself loving some portions of the manga only to find out they're apparently labeled for Battle Whores. . .like, I just so happen to fucking love the Sea Train section, and that was basically fights against, as you put it, filler villains. Yet I loved it. And I loved the assault on Ennies Lobby before the one on one's begun, which was basically one giant battle scene. I loved that Skypiea had fights for almost everyone, greatly enjoyed the little bouts here and there like Zoro vs. Braham or Luffy vs. Wiper. I've been saying for a while that I woulnd't mind at all if the last fights of the arc went back to the past style and be longer than the average post-ts fight, which seems to be less than a chapter TOPS.
But it's also true that the Colosseum bunch are a gazillion guys, and their fights can't be 2-3 chapters long each. They're decently developed, funny and unique in their own right. . .but still they're no Strawhats, they're still relatively secondary/tertiary characters, and can't have such long fights each one. I don't know what are you implying when you say the Blocks B/C were slow-progressing, since I think those parts were fun, exciting and engaging in their own right without necessarily needing a future section of the arc focused on them again, and just be the Giran or Nam of the tournament, guys that bring colour and variety to a fight fest. Oda decided to keep them going for the arc's climax? Great! But not having lengthy finishers does not mean all that came before with the Colosseum fellas was "slow build up that's now not paying off"; I don't consider the Colosseum part of the arc as a prequel of sorts that sets the ground for the finale, it was a pretty self-contained, fun ride that just so happened to get a sequel, not the other way around. Add all of this stuff, and you get some pretty nice, and in some cases, even memorable panel time for these fellas.
With that I mean, this is a unique situation, a ton of new characters are duking it out with the villain group while tons of events are going on at the same time, and panel time is scarce in nowadays One Piece, and I guess Oda wants to do a lengthy Luffy vs. Doffy as the finale. I guess a finale of Luffy,Zoro, Robin, Franky and Usopp vs. Doffy, Trebol, Diamante, Pica and ¿Gladius?¿Pink?, wathever, a fifth one, without background noise and a focused scenario would've been closer to Alabasta, Ennies Lobby or Skypiea in both length and focus, but with, ¿14? Colosseum gladiators, the dwarves, Kyros and Rebeca (who just hijaked a head honcho of all things!), Law, Sabo. . .all trying to have a spot during the climax at the same time, having a chapter like last week is already some sort of miracle.
I agree I would've prefered if Dellinger's chapter was its own thing, and then the Gladius/Bart/Caven be given its own chapter. I actually found Dellinger disposing of Ideo a nice change of pace after Hajrudin could, against all odds, defeat Machvise with just inspirational speech power up, but it's true he felt like a side dish to Bart and co's much more developed (and entertaining) section of the chapter. Kind of a shame, but again, can you really blame Oda for deciding to shift the focus between so, so many characters?
An interesting thought on the matter would be, come the finally final chapter of the Franky vs. Pink and Zoro vs. Pica fights, how will the focus/length be? Like this, scattered and shared with other characters and scenes playing simultaneously? Or more focused and lengthier? I think those'll be a good measuring stick to gauge if this is what we should expect of all future fights (final fight vs the BB pirates aside), or if we should consider these fights an anomaly.
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Wait, side characters defeating antagonists it's not something that could be considered predictable in a Shonen Manga.
If anything, vast majority of them make a point of everyone but main protagonist being useless.
Getting 'brutalized' and then suddenly landing a superpowered move to finish off an enemy is cliche, whether it's a side character or not.
I'd also argue that the way Oda handled Ideo's fight broke up the momentum of the last two chapters where those side characters defeated 2 (3?) officers.
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@Daz:
As boring as he is, it'd have been more satisfying to just have Ideo get brutalized by Dellinger some more, only to land a final superpowered sucker punch to take out Dellinger.
It would be a repeat of Hajrudin's own fight.
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So Barto' isn't just a defensive-type fighter…
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And? It's not like Oda hasn't repeated plots before. Some people taken to call this arc Alabasta 2.0 precisesly because of that.
It's one thing to repeat something done years ago, knowing that Oda likes to reuse ideas for the sake of newer readers.
It's another to do the same plot from 2 chapters ago.
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Mingo family is gonna be defeated..
Waiting for the next arc
it would be Bigmom or something else
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