@Robby:

Pedro and Chopper also did that job at Cake land.

And the instant Usopp was back on the ship he took over that duty. He and Carrot were both at the bottom of the mast, enemies approached… and Usopp was the one at the top doing the looking.

Carrot's much vaunted superior jumping didn't get her there any faster. She wasn't motivated or inspired to get up there. She didn't volunteer or prove herself the best at the task. She just.. let Usopp do it.

If Oda was trying to prove a character's worth at a specific task, to show they're the best and deserve a spot on the ship purely from how good they are at that job, she failed that test badly.

Not to mention when she failed to notice the giant octopus or the fish the size of the ship.

Jinbe was the just steering the Marine battleship while not showing in particular skills either, so it's not like there is no precedent. He only showed these skills in WCI.

Aren't Rabbits farsighted, also?

Either way, I'm not making a case for her to join, but as far as roles go, she sure has a better chance than Yamato.

So what's the role that is being suggested for Yamato? "Ship Guard"? Seems non-sensical to me.
a "lookout" is more realistic and the only character shown to repeatedly fill that role is Carrot. just like how Jinbe was shown to be a helmsman many times before he joined.

Honestly not many archtypical roles remain to be filled, but Carrot has a better claim than Yamato, role wise.

I don't like her though, I feel she doesn't add an interesting dynamic to the crew in terms of personality.

It might be better off if Jinbe is the last one, Oda has a tough time juggling between the Straw Hats before Jinbe joined, the intimacy the crew had is no longer there… It's why Oda keeps seperating them in each arc to give each better panel-time. As a result they don't interact as often as before.

For example, how many times did Zoro and Franky interact? 3 times? 1? ZERO?? I can't remember if they even spoke to each other in the past 700 chapters or so.

It has gotten pretty bad.

I just can't see it working. They'd have to re-imagine and re-write a lot of shit to the point where it's almost unrecognizable from the source material in order to get anything remotely close to a decent result.

Tone.
Character personalities.
Character design.
etc…

The action and battles are probably going to be the easiest thing to pull off.

No one is commenting over the fact that Zoro is massacring Policemen who think he's a serial killer?

@G1Ravage:

We don't know that Oda did this. It wasn't part of the actual chapter, and wasn't translated nor released internationally. It may have been something Shonen Jump put in themselves.

I'm referring to the fact that this arc is a clusterfuck even in it's early phase.

Even Dressrosa was never this bad.

@Kdom:

https://i.imgur.com/90cdWdPr.png

What a colossal fuck up from Oda

@.access:

So… let's take a moment to go through each character of this arc so far:

Strawhat Pirates:
Luffy - Udon, working on the factory as a prisoner.
Zoro - Kibi, Ebisu town.
Usopp, Franky - Flower Capital, going to Ebisu with Law.
Nami, Robin, Brook - Flower Capital, Orochi's palace.
Sanji - Flower Capital, fighting Pageone.
Chopper - Kuri.

Kozuki clan:
Momonosuke, Kiku,Tama, Hitetsu - Kuri.
Kin'emon - Kuri, at a "certain abandoned village" with the Mink trying to pit the Beast Pirates against Ashura Doji.
Hiyori - Unknown.
Kanjuro - Flower Capital, posing as a fishmonger.
Raizo - Udon, trying to free Luffy.
Ashura Doji - Kuri, Mt. Atama.
Denjiro, Kawamatsu - Unknown.
Shinobu - Flower Capital, Orochi's palace.

Mink:
Inuarashi and Musketeers - Kuri, at a "certain abandoned village" with Kin'emon trying to pit the Beast Pirates against Ashura Doji.
Nekomamushi and Guardians - Supposedly left Sphinx going to Wano.

Beast Pirates:
Kaido - Onigashima.
King - Supposedly Onigashima after blocking Big Mom Pirates entrance.
Queen - Last seen at Onigashima.
Jack - Last seen at Onigashima. Told by King to contact someone.
Drake - Flower Capital, searching for the soba shop owner.
Hawkins - Flower Capital.
Pageone - Flower Capital, fighting Sanji.
Apoo (?) - Unknown.
Speed - Last seen in Kuri, Okobore town, after being attacked by Kaido.
Holdem - Last seen in Kuri, Okobore town, after being defeated by Luffy.
Dobon - Last seen in Udon after being defeated by Luffy and Kid.

Wano:
Orochi - Flower Capital, his palace.
Komurasaki - Flower Capital, Orochi's palace.
Kyoshiro - Flower Capital, Orochi's palace.
Toko - Flower Capital, Orochi's palace.
Oniwabanshu - Flower Capital, Orochi's palace.
Kamazo - Unknown.
Ushimitsu Kozo - Unknown. Known to have made an appearance on the current day.
Urashima - Last seen in Kuri, Okobore town, after being defeated by Luffy.
Yooooctopus - WHERE ARE YOU, MAN?

Other pirates:
Law - Flower Capital, going to Ebisu with Usopp and Franky.
Heart Pirates - Last seen at Flower Capital.
Kid - Udon, working on the factory as a prisoner.
Kid Pirates - Unknown.
Linlin - Kuri.
Big Mom Pirates - Unknown.

And we still have Jinbe to come at any point, the fishspitter prisoner, the missing Tobi Roppo… also Oniwabanshu, minks and the other pirate crews can break into multiple characters if they don't move always as a group. So far Oda is handling everything fine, but it will be a challenge when the plot lines start developing and intertwining.

Yeah this is gonna be a shit show like Dressrosa

@MasterKingJC:

I've come to the conclusion years ago that buzzwords like "pacing" don't hold much weight. It's all subjective and correlated to one's enjoyment of the arc itself.

@MrBits:

I’ve heard other people say that, but I don’t agree at all. I think it’s the same as any arc in it’s opening stages.

Eh, Oda is literally skipping events left and right, and time is passing at an absurdly fast rate.

Does anyone else dislike the extremely fast pacing in this arc? After Dressrosa's slow pacing I thought I'd appreciate a faster pace, but this is too much.

Well, it still shares something with Dressrosa so far: It's chaotic as fuck.

The chapter discussion is so fragmented that I don't bother visiting AP anymore unless to check if the spoilers came out.