Never said that Luffy and Zoro were Admiral level.
No, I just used them as an example.
Chapter 735: "Fujitora's Intentions"
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@LordEnel:
It was said that whitbeard wanted to make ace pirate king.
I just realized that if ace hadn't died, he probably would have become pirate king and not luffy.
Some people have the beliefs that this is one of the reasons why Oda killed Ace in the first place, he's potential was astonishing and Luffy might no catch up to him in a believable way but Ace never said that he wanted to become Pirate King though.
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Think another officer will join in on the Franky fight?
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Well garp and Rogers are said to have been equals.
As much as I hate talking about old generation resembling the new generation in one piece since every era is different.
Since their both of the same heritage we could say that at the peak of their strength ace and luffy(sabo maybe too) they would have been equal.
The thing is that ace had a much more powerful crew supporting him so he probably would have triunfed over luffy, if it had happened now, with time I guess luffys crew would become the most powerful overall . ( well at least their top 2 members both reaching yonkou level)
Yep anywho, basing on the chapter when luffy zoro and kinemon, reach the top they'll have to fight both Fuji and dofla?
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Damn that was a good chapter.
Fuji is going to fight Zoro for a bit while Luffy takes out Doflamingo.
Zoro's going to go all out or he's going to die…
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I didn't expect Fujitora will want to capture the SHs now but Fuji willing to go against the SHs changes the game completely. Someone needs to hold Fuji while Luffy pummels Mingo. Pica is also at the palace. I reckon Fuji will be against SHs until Sugar is stopped and the toys return back to normal. The Marines are making this difficult. I hate the Marines, they are nothing but distractions every time.
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Mera Mera no Mi was never the prize. Or so I suspect, DoFlamingo may have even lied, or better just won't give it up. It's all a trap you guys realize this right?^^ (Or maybe I'm wrong, him showing it doesn't really have to mean anything, it's all tricks and stuff. (It is DoFlamingo after all)
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Mera Mera is the prize and it's real. As far as Doffy is concern, they will never win it.
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As I said in the spoiler thread
Fujitora is awesome, S. Pink is awesome and Sabo is awesome cuz he still is using his pipe
But don't like the fact that Oda does change everything so obivious for a Rebecca win
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Maybe because Cavendish is going to play a major role in releasin' all the prisoners from the underground hideout, by using hakuba's wind while everyone's else are fightin'!
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I hope Hakuba appears when sugar tries to turn cavendish into a toy =D
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So i guess Ussop will be turned into a toy and Hakuba will be the one to scare the living shit out Sugar.
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Oda's a true genius. Look at Sabo this chapter and it is just incredible.
He gets complicated names totally wrong and doesn't give another thought about it: "Marinecolosseo"
He's warming up stance looks very much like Luffy and Ace's.
He drew a dodgy X scar on his chest to look like "Lucy".Sabo is just like who we expect him to be in the years of character traits provided by Luffy and Ace as their "brother".
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I hope Hakuba appears when sugar tries to turn cavendish into a toy =D
He'll be saved by ussop and robin and then Hakuba will fight trebol, while Ussop takes on sugar. And robin will be on the sidelines taking on the underlings/other pirates (b/c it's oda and it's shonen so robin won't a cool fight).
I can't wait to see DD's face when sugar gets beaten. The marines and everyone will have their hands full, DD will be angry and will fight luffy ontop of the palace roof or something.
He gets complicated names totally wrong and doesn't give another thought about it: "Marinecolosseo"
He's warming up stance looks very much like Luffy and Ace's.
He drew a dodgy X scar on his chest to look like "Lucy".Sabo is just like who we expect him to be in the years of character traits provided by Luffy and Ace as their "brother".
His appearance is a very positive sign for the fate of Mera-Mera no mi.Like I said earlier, he's a good middle for sensible and idiotic at the same time. So xoxoxoxoxo <3 <3 <3 :wub:
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He'll be saved by ussop and robin and then Hakuba will fight trebol, while Ussop takes on sugar. And robin will be on the sidelines taking on the underlings/other pirates (b/c it's oda and it's shonen so robin won't a cool fight).
I can't wait to see DD's face when sugar gets beaten. The marines and everyone will have their hands full, DD will be angry and will fight luffy ontop of the palace roof or something.
Like I said earlier, he's a good middle for sensible and idiotic at the same time. So xoxoxoxoxo <3 <3 <3 :wub:
i dont see robin fighting any cool fights really. Cause her ability forces her to stand still and just break everyones necks. Dont see how we can get a long fight out of her. Either she breaks the neck or she gets taken down cuz she has to stand still. Or, ooor she can run around and dodge, then stand still, then dodge, then stand still. which is kind of boring anyways.
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Oda's a true genius. Look at Sabo this chapter and it is just incredible.
He gets complicated names totally wrong and doesn't give another thought about it: "Marinecolosseo"
He's warming up stance looks very much like Luffy and Ace's.
He drew a dodgy X scar on his chest to look like "Lucy".Sabo is just like who we expect him to be in the years of character traits provided by Luffy and Ace as their "brother".
His appearance is a very positive sign for the fate of Mera-Mera no mi.I just wonder why garp also.beat up sabo ahhaha, i mean wtf he has done hahahah
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He'll be saved by ussop and robin and then Hakuba will fight trebol, while Ussop takes on sugar. And robin will be on the sidelines taking on the underlings/other pirates (b/c it's oda and it's shonen so robin won't a cool fight).
I really don't like this, Robin should be the one to handle Trebol. We have Franky who took down two officer and is now fighting two more, but we have Robin who hasn't have an awesome fight yet, she needs to smash that ugly mug man.
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i dont see robin fighting any cool fights really. Cause her ability forces her to stand still and just break everyones necks. Dont see how we can get a long fight out of her. Either she breaks the neck or she gets taken down cuz she has to stand still. Or, ooor she can run around and dodge, then stand still, then dodge, then stand still. which is kind of boring anyways.
Why does she needs to stand still?
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I just wonder why garp also.beat up sabo ahhaha, i mean wtf he has done hahahah
Yeah I think that too haha. That's why I suspected Don Chinjao to be Sabo when he first appeared and claimed that Garp almost killed him way way back lol
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Yeah I think that too haha. That's why I suspected Don Chinjao to be Sabo when he first appeared and claimed that Garp almost killed him way way back lol
The resemblance is uncanny. Might still be true
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@LordEnel:
It was said that whitbeard wanted to make ace pirate king.
I just realized that if ace hadn't died, he probably would have become pirate king and not luffy.
I think that was the main reason Oda killed him, though obviously other aspects such as Luffy developing a bit were nice bonuses to it.
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No… a king of a kingdom wouldn't become a marine admiral dude... are you saying the 7th shichibukai is stronger than an admiral? wtf..
and giving him the devil fruit doesnt make him admiral level power dude, yes df do enhance the strength and power of an individual, but it doesn't automatically boost them to 'admiral level' dudeI should have been clearer. I'm saying that Ishho was part of said kingdom (possibly someone in its military)
I'm also not saying he was weak in my scenario (he managed to hold off a shichibukai and his crew FFS), I'm saying he wasn't admiral level, or even mihawk level. He is Admiral level now. He uses his new fruit in every attack he does, so it's obviously given him a hell of a boost
Also Fuji obviously has some sort of issue with Shichibukai, and he's lost both of his eyes. It's possible that the two could be related.
Damn that was a good chapter.
Fuji is going to fight Zoro for a bit while Luffy takes out Doflamingo.
Zoro's going to go all out or he's going to die…
I think so too. I'm guessing Kinemon fights Pica, Robin fights Trebol, Usopp fights the spiky haired guy, Barto and Rebecca fight Diamante and Franky fights everyone else
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I should have been clearer. I'm saying that Ishho was part of said kingdom (possibly someone in its military)
I'm also not saying he was weak in my scenario (he managed to hold off a shichibukai and his crew FFS), I'm saying he wasn't admiral level, or even mihawk level. He is Admiral level now. He uses his new fruit in every attack he does, so it's obviously given him a hell of a boost
Also Fuji obviously has some sort of issue with Shichibukai, and he's lost both of his eyes. It's possible that the two could be related.
You are assuming that he wasn't admiral level. Just because there are individuals in the One Piece world who are not part of pirate crews/marines/world government/kingdoms etc, doesn't mean there aren't exceptionally powerful individuals who have made a name for themselves in the past. There is no proof that he wasn't already admiral level, no proof that he didn't have a DF beforehand, how can you say that its a new fruit.. Power in One Piece doesn't come from having a fruit, it helps but I would say other factors are more important. Eg Blackbeard gave Shanks 3 scars before he had the Darkness logia fruit. So all in all, theres no proof he wasn't admiral level dude, and he only joined the marines after a world wide conscription to cover the losses of Aokoji and Akainu being promoted to Fleet Admiral.
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I should have been clearer. I'm saying that Ishho was part of said kingdom (possibly someone in its military)
I'm also not saying he was weak in my scenario (he managed to hold off a shichibukai and his crew FFS), I'm saying he wasn't admiral level, or even mihawk level. He is Admiral level now. He uses his new fruit in every attack he does, so it's obviously given him a hell of a boost
Also Fuji obviously has some sort of issue with Shichibukai, and he's lost both of his eyes. It's possible that the two could be related.
I think so too. I'm guessing Kinemon fights Pica, Robin fights Trebol, Usopp fights the spiky haired guy, Barto and Rebecca fight Diamante and Franky fights everyone else
Once you are a fighter worth of being an admiral, devil fruits don't count so much, even if you take away his fruit he'll still be an admiral regardless, and why would someone not use their df powers that the most retarded thing I've heard, it's like you have two swords, but let's just use one, lol.
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I edited that post while you replied, but whatever.
Nobody, in this case, means the common people. Everybody in the government knew.
The moment the government stops seeing you as strong (like, losing against a relatively newbie pirate) or even influential is the moment they stop seeing you as useful.
Moriah was kept around for the war because there was no point in leaving him out of it. Rather have somebody there instead of nobody at all.
Nobody ie all the common people he was meant to intimidating out of becoming pirates, he was still useful as a shichibukai.
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Why indeed. My mind did wander to Kaido for a second, Doffy has close enough ties to him, and he seemingly hates Moria.
But if one were to, for the sake of argument, say that was the case, what could Kaido hope to offer the nobles?
Or maybe it's just grandstanding, them showing that while they can't overrule the elder stars, they can still get their will through.
It's a fun, and completely open area for speculation.
Very true, who knows if we'll ever get the answers we're looking for.
Maybe when Moria reappears for the Kaido arc we'll get more insight into it.
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I should have been clearer. I'm saying that Ishho was part of said kingdom (possibly someone in its military)
I'm also not saying he was weak in my scenario (he managed to hold off a shichibukai and his crew FFS), I'm saying he wasn't admiral level, or even mihawk level. He is Admiral level now. He uses his new fruit in every attack he does, so it's obviously given him a hell of a boost
Also Fuji obviously has some sort of issue with Shichibukai, and he's lost both of his eyes. It's possible that the two could be related.
I think so too. I'm guessing Kinemon fights Pica, Robin fights Trebol, Usopp fights the spiky haired guy, Barto and Rebecca fight Diamante and Franky fights everyone else
It seems difficult for me to see Zoro fighting against Fujitora for longer than 1 or 2 minutes, and I'd wager the Luffy vs Doflamingo fight is bound to take much longer.
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Who did Zoro and Robin killed? I do think Robin did kill people in her past, but I don't think it's been confirmed.
He killed the previous Mr. 7. We were told about this back, I think, at Whiskey Peak.
Robin told the crew her specialty was 'assassination', something her DF powers strongly lend themselves to, and which her criminal history is highly consistent with.
We didn't see either kill anyone on-screen, but we were explicitly told Zoro killed a specific person, and Robin herself suggested that she has killed people.
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Luffy has had the Gumo Gumo no Mi since he was a kid. Ace had the Mera Mera no Mi. Sabo keeps it OG and sticks with his pipe. Funds are low with at the Revolutionary Army right now.
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Luffy has had the Gumo Gumo no Mi since he was a kid. Ace had the Mera Mera no Mi. Sabo keeps it OG and sticks with his pipe. Funds are low with at the Revolutionary Army right now.
Why would Sabo even want a fruit? How many people can say they're strong enough to hold their own(and then some) with a metal pipe?
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Zoro trained with the strongest swordsman in the world for 2 years. He's not a chump. The Strawhats have always fought someone stronger than themselves and became stronger so who knows? Maybe they don't fight even.
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I bet we see a combo move where senor pink drags Franky halfway underground and machvise crushes him
still these guys need to step it up, they don't seem to be as big of a threat as I assumed they would be, hopefully machvise can do more than be a copy of Miss Valentine
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yea that guy. I came across his review of a chapter and he goes on this rant about how sabo now has a grudge against luffy because he couldn't save ace lol.
Ugh, I remember that video and commented on how fucking dumb that sounded especially when in the chapter Koala asks Sabo if he's crying because he was happy to see Luffy and Sabo denies he is (lol we know you were shedding man-tears Sabo XD)
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Ugh, I remember that video and commented on how fucking dumb that sounded especially when in the chapter Koala asks Sabo if he's crying because he was happy to see Luffy and Sabo denies he is (lol we know you were shedding man-tears Sabo XD)
Didn't he block you?
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Maybe Sabo is the seventh Shichibukai
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@krule274:
And Roger was my mom.
I´m being serious… If someone like Buggy became a Shichibukai why not Sabo?
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Didn't he block you?
Lol I didn't comment rudely like that, but I did comment how Sabo didn't have a grudge and blah blah explanation of how he didn't have a grudge.
Sorry, I watch him somewhat frequently and the stuff he questions…is like, "Oda has pointed it out for us if you would just use context clues, God!!"
Like his review for this week's chapter. Now he has ppl in the comment section seriously questioning whether this is Sabo (or Bon Clay) and it's all because Oda is doing his job as a mangaka and holding Sabo's face as ransom for people to continue reading his manga, but the bumbling idiots don't process that part into their analyses.
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I´m being serious… If someone like Buggy became a Shichibukai why not Sabo?
Sabo's a Revolutionary. How the hell could the WG not know that?
And even if they didn't, why would he be undercover as a pirate?
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I´m being serious… If someone like Buggy became a Shichibukai why not Sabo?
Buggy, why people keep underestimating Buggy, just because Luffy beat Buggy doesn't mean that Buggy is a loser, just because Buggy gets scared doesn't mean that Buggy is a loser and just because his the second luckiest character in One Piece doesn't mean that Buggy is a loser. Buggy has the potential to be real powerful but he's just too lazy and relies too much in his subordinates.
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Buggy, why people keep underestimating Buggy, just because Luffy beat Buggy doesn't mean that Buggy is a loser, just because Buggy gets scared doesn't mean that Buggy is a loser and just because his the second luckiest character in One Piece doesn't mean that Buggy is a loser. Buggy has the potential to be real powerful but he's just too lazy and relies too much in his subordinates.
There's nothing wrong with relying on his subordinates if his subordinates are powerful, but they're not.
His flashiness is just too blinding.
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I´m being serious… If someone like Buggy became a Shichibukai why not Sabo?
because Sabo's a revolutionary
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I´m being serious… If someone like Buggy became a Shichibukai why not Sabo?
Sabo isn't one because he's a Revolutionary. The Revolutionaries outwardly oppose the government while pirates might not like the government, but they try not to bring any unnecessary attention from the marines to themselves. The Revolutionaries just don't give a fuck.
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@Terry:
Fujitora #1 Rankings Marines 2014
I agree, this chapter cinched it for me, he's taken Aokiji vacant spot as my fave Marine. I still like Kuzon but he's not a marine anymore so the spot had to go to someone!
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I hope Cavendish don't get tranformed into a toy
You DO realize you have ignited a thousand different dumb predictions here right?
1- We know that Sugar is actually older than she looks,
2- women love Cavendish
We do not know if the toys shape is decided by Sugar or are random and only slightly influenced by what she's thinking.
this means that Sugar will also fall for Cavendish's good looks and thinking "he's cute" when transforming him can have various results.
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Sabo is supposed to be smart though, having spent his whole life with the revolutionaries. He's supposed to have the situation under control.
Sabo was 10 when the burning of Grey Terminal happened, ten years later is when Luffy left to the sea, then +2 for time skip. So he didn't spend his whole life with them, only half (+ 2 years) of it.
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Lol I didn't comment rudely like that, but I did comment how Sabo didn't have a grudge and blah blah explanation of how he didn't have a grudge.
Sorry, I watch him somewhat frequently and the stuff he questions…is like, "Oda has pointed it out for us if you would just use context clues, God!!"
Like his review for this week's chapter. Now he has ppl in the comment section seriously questioning whether this is Sabo (or Bon Clay) and it's all because Oda is doing his job as a mangaka and holding Sabo's face as ransom for people to continue reading his manga, but the bumbling idiots don't process that part into their analyses.
I don't watch those type of reviewers, I only watch King of Lighting (Funny guy), Code Provider (Those Naruto reviews) and Sawyer (Professionalism, I guess) but I once watched a review of that guy (Forneverworld - Ugly modafoka) where he "Ranted" on Fairy Tail but that rant was more like his was advertising the manga and it was god awful, the worst crap I have seen as of yet, but those who still have doubts about who this person is, are just stupid people who lack reading comprehension and believe everything that comes out of those reviewers mouth without applying their own logic or having their own thoughts about storylines.
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@krule274:
There's nothing wrong with relying on his subordinates if his subordinates are powerful, but they're not.
His flashiness is just too blinding.
Hey-hey his subordinates are powerful now but the guy was in Roger's ship, he has potential and a good Devil Fruit that can have some good developments but yet he still lacks ambitions, but I have my hopes up for Buggy, I think that I'm the only one that is no underestimating him right now.
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I'd love to see a scene where the Shichibukai are disbanded and they show them going to each Shichibukai and try to take them down
they show a buster call attacking amazon island, marines surrounding Mihawk, who closes his eyes and sighs then grabs the hilt of his blade, Buggy doing a "what!!!!" face
all done at the speed and same music playing as the scene in the godfather where they kill everyone…. and add some revolving doors
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It seems difficult for me to see Zoro fighting against Fujitora for longer than 1 or 2 minutes, and I'd wager the Luffy vs Doflamingo fight is bound to take much longer.
Zoro will obviously last longer than that. He doesn't have to hold him till Mingo is defeated, once Sugar falls, Fujitora will reconsider his position. His justice is to protect the citizens isn't it?
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I think so too. I'm guessing Kinemon fights Pica, Robin fights Trebol, Usopp fights the spiky haired guy, Barto and Rebecca fight Diamante and Franky fights everyone else
I guess Trebol will be taken down by Franky and Robin combo. Gladius is at the palace, Wicca and Viola are with Luffy's group.
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Hey-hey his subordinates are powerful now but the guy was in Roger's ship, he has potential and a good Devil Fruit that can have some good developments but yet he still lacks ambitions, but I have my hopes up for Buggy, I think that I'm the only one that is no underestimating him right now.
Oh, don't get me wrong, the guy's got a story stacked in his favor. He's just unambitious and lazy
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He killed the previous Mr. 7. We were told about this back, I think, at Whiskey Peak.
Robin told the crew her specialty was 'assassination', something her DF powers strongly lend themselves to, and which her criminal history is highly consistent with.
We didn't see either kill anyone on-screen, but we were explicitly told Zoro killed a specific person, and Robin herself suggested that she has killed people.
Ok, I feel dumb for not remembering Robin part, it is one of my favorite lines of her.
The Zoro one I was mistaken. Considering crocodile "worked" for the government, he would've known now if an subordinate was arrested, and if he had just been beaten he might contact the organization. Might be the guy knew he would be killed by the organization if he failed, and decided to run, but I won't argue that, considering I don't know/remember if killing subordinates that didn't accomplish missions were standard procedure.
Thanks for clarifying this for me.
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I found this funny!
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I found this funny!
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I don't get it…
Praise our king, First fist of the Sea, DonMarimo DoBuggino exploring Bonesbeard.
If someone seriously claimed that Whitebeard was running a vibrator business as his second job you'd ignore him as a troll.
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I wonder if Kanjuro will show up in the next coming chapters.
