Who's under that mask, is that you, bull?
General Marines Thread
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Who's under that mask, is that you, bull?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130425174421/onepiece/images/3/34/Bastille_Manga_Infobox.pngWhere is this taken from?
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@NER:
I have a theory that the fruit Fujitora ate cannot be used on living things. okay, bye.
Tell that to the bar thugs who were feeling heavy.
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Wait, they said that? I thought he just used his gravity on thr floor and made it so heavy that they – nvm, I suck at this.
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Who's under that mask, is that you, bull?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130425174421/onepiece/images/3/34/Bastille_Manga_Infobox.pngProps to Nolus if this turns out to be true. He saw it coming a mile away.
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It was always (based on 5 examples we have) color + animal.
Well, Z's nickname was Black Arm, so it might just be Color + Thing. Though that might just be for him, since his nickname was actually relevant to how he fights.
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Who's under that mask, is that you, bull?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130425174421/onepiece/images/3/34/Bastille_Manga_Infobox.pngI think DD implied that Green Bull had been "drafted" the same way Fujitora was, so its likely that he/she was not part of the marines during that war.
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What color is FujiTora?
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Orange is kinda of represented already.
Kizaru (Yellow) + Akainu (Red) = Orange.
By that logic so were purple and green
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Of any character already introduced, I honestly think Coby has a better shot than most. Oda just has to give him another growth spurt and he could come out of it looking like another Japanese actor.
Are you seriously suggesting Coby became an admiral in the past two years and had his face morph into one of the near realistic Admiral faces because WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT.
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Good One Monkey King! Your hammy statements are always good comedy!
However, I'm sure Great Liver intended to opine that Coby would become an admiral after he matures into a complete badass.
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@Monkey:
Are you seriously suggesting Coby became an admiral in the past two years and had his face morph into one of the near realistic Admiral faces because WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT.
No. Oda seems to have made it clear he plans to stick to the pattern of admirals being modeled after famous Japanese actors, at least in current timelines seeing as Sengoku didn't look like anyone while he was an admiral. He held that up after the time skip, so I could see it holding up for the likely time skip we get at the end of the series that will serve to wrap up some world building. Coby's appearance has been proven to be more plastic that other characters, so of any character of whom we have already seen the face, I think he has the best odds of his face somehow managing to end up looking like a Japanese actor.
Do I think it will happen, not particularly. I could, however, imagine Oda pulling the joke of Coby's drastic change in appearance a second time.
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No. Oda seems to have made it clear he plans to stick to the pattern of admirals being modeled after famous Japanese actors, at least in current timelines seeing as Sengoku didn't look like anyone while he was an admiral. He held that up after the time skip, so I could see it holding up for the likely time skip we get at the end of the series that will serve to wrap up some world building. Coby's appearance has been proven to be more plastic that other characters, so of any character of whom we have already seen the face, I think he has the best odds of his face somehow managing to end up looking like a Japanese actor.
Do I think it will happen, not particularly. I could, however, imagine Oda pulling the joke of Coby's drastic change in appearance a second time.
I don't remember Oda stating that all admirals will be modeled after Japanese actors.
He has modeled every one of them so far after Japanese actors, but that's simply his quirk. That in no way implies that it's "clear" that he plans to model all admirals after Japanese actors.
In addition, your last paragraph contradicts your first.
P.S. I'm nit-picky for the jollies. Keep it jolly, okay?
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I don't remember Oda stating that all admirals will be modeled after Japanese actors.
He has modeled every one of them so far after Japanese actors, but that's simply his quirk. That in no way implies that it's "clear" that he plans to model all admirals after Japanese actors.
Correct, it doesn't imply that Oda will model all the admirals after Japanese actors.
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@Monkey:
Correct, it doesn't imply that Oda will model all the admirals after Japanese actors.
It deeply implies that Oda will model all the admirals after Japanese actors.You're mean. I won't play with you.
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Welcome Green Bull
http://i.imgur.com/xKcSAhJ.jpgYou sir, are a genius.
Is that Toshiro Mifune by chance?
Oh, and I've found a fanart relating to the cover flap of Volume 70.
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What. The. Farm.
Happy marine animal farm. Whats next? Admiral Bronze Duckling? Admiral Silvercat?
Props on the Horns.. But I dont see that happening.. Aint no monkey tail on Borsalino >:o
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We already saw post-timeskip Coby and Helmeppo artwork that was drawn for One Piece Film Z.
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Prediction: Green Bull will be a Zoan user and his power relates to radiation. My bet is he has a Godzilla fruit.
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I dont see Oda breaking the Admiral-Logia Pattern. Wait, he did with Z anyway..
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I dont see Oda breaking the Admiral-Logia Pattern. Wait, he did with Z anyway..
That happened way before with Sengoku.
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And then there's Garp
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Scratch my post. I had a valiantt moment.
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Fujitora isn't a Logia either.
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Scratch my post. I had a valiantt moment.
Well, Z is non-canon, Sengoku was fleet admiral and Garp was vice admiral, so technically all admirals have been logias, but I don't see Fuji being one, so maybe we'll have now one of each (Light logia, gravity(?) paramecia and bull zoan). That or a horn logia.
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Well Z the character isn't non-canon is he? Isn't he like Shiki?
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Sengoku was an Admiral in the days of Roger , presumably right around the same time as Z.
They don't have to be Logia, but the way Fujitora talks about "testing" his power , I wouldn't be surprised if eating a df fruit is a requirement now.
Can't wait to hear more about the World Draft. Although, it must be quite ego crushing for the VAs that their new Fleet Admiral rather search outside sources for the Admiral positions instead of promoting one of them.
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The background story of both Z and Shiki are canon as far as i know, only the movies themselves are not.
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They don't have to be Logia, but the way Fujitora talks about "testing" his power , I wouldn't be surprised if eating a df fruit is a requirement now.
It's been discussed to death but Fujitora wasn't "testing" his powers so much as saying, "I'm just getting warmed up."
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Can't wait to hear more about the World Draft. Although, it must be quite ego crushing for the VAs that their new Fleet Admiral rather search outside sources for the Admiral positions instead of promoting one of them.
Might be the reason why VA's are getting the Worf treatment nowadays.
Smoker and Maynard, shame on both of you.
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Might be the reason why VA's are getting the Worf treatment nowadays.
Smoker and Maynard, shame on both of you.
Definitely the reason. Can't blame the higher ups of the Marines/WG for relying on World Draft because in terms of power, the VAs were significantly weaker than the admirals. Plus majority of the VAs were middle aged already so their window for growth as far as their power is concerned is pretty much closing or even shut.
Now that Sentomaru's a marine officer, his right to command pacifistas were obviously retained. I wonder if other marine officers could've been given the same right of taking and commanding pacifista units.
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I'm wondering what kind of draft this really was, I could imagine Sakazuki making it mandatory for all islands with a marine influence to submit every male of a fighting age. Then again maybe the conscription was just a way to fast track powerful people not previously aligned with the marines ie. there's normally no way someone could be come an admiral within 2 years no matter how strong they are.
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Maybe the use of conscription here isn't quite how it's used in the west. It seems strange that the navy would put people who haven't been proved openly loyal and competent in such positions of power. It also seems unlikely that under a forced conscription characters like Kuzan or Sengoku would be allowed to leave. Fujitora is blind so maybe what's meant by conscription is re-upping former personal who've retired because of disability or age and a more concise translation wasn't available.
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Could've just been a way to squeeze strong people out of their previous undertakings
These people may be people who were run out of the service for political reason
people who were tied to national forces
mercenaries from outside nations who previously wouldn't have been eligible
But overall i'd think it's safe to belive that these new admirals aren't in it for ideological reasons like the previous ones
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Or there could be other branches of the military forces that were shifted to the marines. For example guards in marineford or a large army on the redline could be recuting points for the marines.
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I'm wondering how the draft worked. When Sakazuki nominated the two admirals who got the final say? Yes, the Gorousi can just observe from the sidelines, and let Pan Fleet Admiral Kong make the final decision, but personally I think the Gorousis' visions are very clear: to ensure the three powers( warlords, admirals, and Youkous) are as balanced as possible. In other words I think the Gorousi can veto any nomination if they feel if it will tip the balance of power towards their enemies.
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You know, I've been hearing about the term "Moral Justice" as the kind of justice the "good" marines, like Aokiji and Garp follow, in contrast to Absolute justice. Sooo where does it come from? I've never heard about it in the series so is it just a fanmade term? :ermm:
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Seems fanmade. Too preachy to be a great Oda invention
Now lazy justice that's the ticket
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I've only seen it on One Piece Wiki; it was never used in the actual story.
The One Piece Wiki creates this false dichotomy of Marines on one side who support Absolute Justice and Marines on another who support "Moral Justice", as if there can't possibly be other types of justice that some Marines follow or Marines who have no specific stance on justice and act based on the situation rather than having a philosophy that they apply to everything.
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@Medical:
I've only seen it on One Piece Wiki; it was never used in the actual story.
The One Piece Wiki creates this false dichotomy of Marines on one side who support Absolute Justice and Marines on another who support "Moral Justice", as if there can't possibly be other types of justice that some Marines follow or Marines who have no specific stance on justice and act based on the situation rather than having a philosophy that they apply to everything.
That's exactly what was bugging me with the term! :getlost:
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Just a thought. This Bastille guy, his nickname is shark cutter right
Does that not sound a tad underwhelming. Unless they're talking about some insane new world shark
I mean Mohawk kills sea kings from the inside out and this dude brags about cutting sharks?
Spiderbutt when he gets into the story should really be called something like the sea king sword juggler
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@wolfwoof:
Just a thought. This Bastille guy, his nickname is shark cutter right
Does that not sound a tad underwhelming. Unless they're talking about some insane new world shark
I mean Mohawk kills sea kings from the inside out and this dude brags about cutting sharks?
Spiderbutt when he gets into the story should really be called something like the sea king sword juggler
Does Shark Fishmen count?
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Does Shark Fishmen count?
The Arlong puncher would've been a good nickname
Wonder what Spotsworths title will be. He's a giant spotted dog man
Something about biting? Taking a bite out of crime is sadly taken
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Arlong Puncher Bastille? Sounds weird. Shark Cutter Bastille has a nice ring to it. Oda gives his characters some weird and unique names. It's pretty hard coming up with nicknames that would work well with the name Bastille.
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It sounds all tough til you remember that Zoro decapitated a dragon like last week
Like how does that even stick. Does he kill alot of sharks? Are sharks a major problem in the new world?
There needs to be a SBS question on this topic
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Who knows, but the nickname works well with his name.
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@Medical:
I've only seen it on One Piece Wiki; it was never used in the actual story.
The One Piece Wiki creates this false dichotomy of Marines on one side who support Absolute Justice and Marines on another who support "Moral Justice", as if there can't possibly be other types of justice that some Marines follow or Marines who have no specific stance on justice and act based on the situation rather than having a philosophy that they apply to everything.
Blind Justice is clearly the best
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Could Ryokugyu end up being another Samurai? Miyamoto's theory about Mifune seems pretty spot on.
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Could Ryokugyu end up being another Samurai? Miyamoto's theory about Mifune seems pretty spot on.
We don´t even know if Fujitora is a Samurai to be honest. Of course he is modeled after Zatoichi, who, strictly speaking, was also not a Samurai, so his clothes are traditional Japanese, but that does not equal him to be a OP world Samurai, meaning coming from Wa No. While i think that the last guy will be modeled after Mifune, possibly after his role in Yojimbo, in which he actually plays a Samuran Ronin, it does not mean that he has to be a Samurain in the OP world.
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@Light:
You know, I've been hearing about the term "Moral Justice" as the kind of justice the "good" marines, like Aokiji and Garp follow, in contrast to Absolute justice. Sooo where does it come from? I've never heard about it in the series so is it just a fanmade term? :ermm:
It's in SBS vol. 64…
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Can't seem to find it that SBS. All they talk about is the admirals and their quirky forms of justice
Did you mean another SBS?