Funny enough i found Mario too stereotype in those 4 pages…..his facial expression is too bland too...anyway let the chapter comes out before i give my verdict...
The "Shueisha" Thread
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Funny enough i found Mario too stereotype in those 4 pages…..his facial expression is too bland too...anyway let the chapter comes out before i give my verdict...
I can understand why you'd say bland (which I wholly disagree with but who am I to argue with someone that enjoys Naruto), but…stereotypical? wtf?
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'kids in America don't commit suicide,they takes gun and apply justice by themselves'….
don't you think this is a stereotypical?:wassat:
for every Columbine there are these...
(by the way i am not American)
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Here's the pages for the Shokugeki no Soma x Toriko x Curry Prince collaboration.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/565a53250926887 http://www.imagebam.com/image/f9809a250926894 http://www.imagebam.com/image/7212c0250926906
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Coming from someone who just cooked up about 10 servings of curry rice, that Toriko curry looks disgusting.
Now that my entire room is filled with smell of curry, time for me to head to bed.
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let me just fix this up…
Coming from someone who just cooked up about 10 servings of curry rice, thatTorikocurrylooks disgusting.That pretty much covers everything
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let me just fix this up…
That pretty much covers everything
I dunno, the food in Toriko usually looks pretty damn slurpable
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Toriko food just looks fake most of the time. Like, meat that shines and doesn't look anything like any meat I've ever seen, I can't hunger over that.
also screw you Aohige, now I'm craving curry rice. that stuff is like crack to me.
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I dunno, the food in Toriko usually looks pretty damn slurpable
I believe they were referring to the first picture gizmo posted.
And the picture of that looks pretty damn disgusting. But then most food photographed looks pretty bad. I mean there is a reason why they use fake food for advertising and stuff.
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Cooking books use real food photos. Just saying….
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Cooking books use real food photos. Just saying….
A lot of food photographed for such stuff isn't real food or is highly staged to look good. Whatever curry they took a picture of looked like someone had no sense of presentation.
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Cooking books use real food photos. Just saying….
http://www.pixiq.com/article/food-photo-tricks
Most photographed food has stuff like shoe polish, motor oil, glycerin and cotton balls and blowtorched sides in order to have a nice presentation. Milk used for cereal is often white glue. Colored mashed potatoes are usually used instead of ice cream so it doesn't melt. Branding irons are used to get those perfect sear marks on steaks.
Different for a filmed live shot where people are actually eating the food obviously, but staged nice looking food photos are usually pretty fake.
Nothing wrong with these techniques at all. It’s simply what it takes to make food look like it should while working with the camera, lighting, props, etc, not to mention the time it takes to get just the right shot. Real food tends to ‘fade fast’.. steam never lasts long, ice cream melts, produce wilts or turns brown, glistening roasts dry out. If the final product looks realistic and appealing, then the photographer has done their job.
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33 volumes?! Might be gone for a while…
33 volumes…didn't take as long as I thought it would (a couple of days). I underestimated my quick reading speed.
All of a sudden, my backlog doesn't look as daunting. -
The internet is also full of amateur bloggers and professional culinar photographers who eat the food they take in picture.
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Recent sales ranking of the series of the Jump.
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I love how One Piece is so much higher than the rest that they have to insert a break and skip a huge chunk of its bar in order for it to fit
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@Barbe:
Recent sales ranking of the series of the Jump.
[qimg]http://i42.tinypic.com/2hp21cg.jpg[/qimg]1- One Piece: 288,000,000 copies.
2- Dragon Ball: 157,210,000 copies.
3- Kochikame: 156,500,000 copies.
4- Naruto: 131,280,000 copies.
5- Slam Dunk: 120,290,000 copies.
6- Bleach: 82,070,000 copies.
7- Jojo´s Bizarre Adventure: 68,910,000 copies.
8- Hunter x Hunter: 65,870,000 copies.
9- Kenshin: 58,700,000 copies.
10- Yûyû Hakusho: 50,000,000 copies.Full 2013 Media Guide.
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1- One Piece: 288,000,000 copies.
2- Dragon Ball: 157,210,000 copies.
3- Kochikame: 156,500,000 copies.
4- Naruto: 131,280,000 copies.
5- Slam Dunk: 120,290,000 copies.
6- Bleach: 82,070,000 de ejemplares.
7- Jojo´s Bizarre Adventure: 68,910,000 copies (only 5 first series).
8- Hunter x Hunter: 65,870,000 copies.
9- Kenshin: 58,700,000 copies.
10- Yûyû Hakusho: 50,000,000 copies.Full 2013 Media Guide.
So Togashi makes the list twice. That's impressive.
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1- One Piece: 288,000,000 copies.
2- Dragon Ball: 157,210,000 copies.
3- Kochikame: 156,500,000 copies.
4- Naruto: 131,280,000 copies.
5- Slam Dunk: 120,290,000 copies.
6- Bleach: 82,070,000 de ejemplares.
7- Jojo´s Bizarre Adventure: 68,910,000 copies (only 5 first series).
8- Hunter x Hunter: 65,870,000 copies.
9- Kenshin: 58,700,000 copies.
10- Yûyû Hakusho: 50,000,000 copies.Full 2013 Media Guide.
Random bit of Spanish there :O
Also that OP can outsell something continously released 21 years longer is simply fascinating O_O
Edit: Why do they only count the first 5 series of Jojo ? Also, anyone who can edit that picture to show OP's full bar ?
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You sure it isn't the first 6 series of Jojo? That could make sense since it moved from WSJ to Ultra JUmp during steel ball run, but I can't understand why they wouldn't include part 6
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redon can you edit that. It says nothing about Jojo only counting the top five.
Jojo is counting the entire series.
The sentence above is talking about Top 5 of this chart are so numerous, each of them exceed the Japanese population.
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I am asking because i really don´t know: Doesn´t the number 288 million entail that the average sale of a OP volume is approx 4 million, since 69 volumes are released right now? That would be surprising to me since i thought 3 million for one volume is already a huge number.
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3 million is how much a new volume sells in its first year.
People don't just buy that volume in the first year.People still do buy the first 60 volumes in 2013 you know
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I wonder how much the first volume of One Piece has sold until now. Do we have data on that?
When I was in Japan I found amazing that at the big bookstores they'd put up big piles of EACH One Piece volume. That must mean every single volume still sells like shit.
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Didn´t think that would influence the numbers that much though but clearly i was mistaken.
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I wonder how much the first volume of One Piece has sold until now. Do we have data on that?
When I was in Japan I found amazing that at the big bookstores they'd put up big piles of EACH One Piece volume. That must mean every single volume still sells like shit.
Unfortunately since no organization publish accumulative totals of constant, yet low ranking sales figures, we really have no ways of knowing unless Shuueisha publish the data.
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3 million is how much a new volume sells in its first year.
People don't just buy that volume in the first year.People still do buy the first 60 volumes in 2013 you know
I assume they get continously reprinted then ? I wonder which is the most current reprint of volume 1 if that is in fact the case.
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That would be easy to find out, just ask CCC or Steven to go to a nearest bookstore, and look at the final pages of a One Piece volume 1 lol.
My own copy dates back to 2000, and it's 19th reprint.
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That would be easy to find out, just ask CCC or Steven to go to a nearest bookstore, and look at the final pages of a One Piece volume 1 lol.
My own copy dates back to 2000, and it's 19th reprint.
So 20 printings in only 3-4 years O_O
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@No:
So 20 printings in only 3-4 years O_O
They didn't know at the time to print 3 million copies up front. There were probably a fair ammount of the first printing, maybe around 500,000 (maybe less, maybe more. Assclass was recently started at 800,000, but its 16 years later) but then the follow up printings were probably "only" 20,000-50,000 at a time initially to meet demand. And then demand would have exploded two years later when the anime hit. (Even when dealing with those amounts, there's cash flow issues. Even when you KNOW you're going to sell through that entire printing, you can still only afford to print and store so much.)
Somewhere along the way they may have opted to print a straight 1 or 2 million again just to have in perpetual stock though.
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In February 2011 One Piece Volume 01 reached 100th reprint, so I think now it´d be 110-115th reprint more or less.
Between 22th November 2010 and 20th November 2011, One Piece Volume 01 sold 545,045 copies. So I think it would be reach 5,000,000 copies total (it´s only a speculation).
http://www.oricon.co.jp/entertainment/ranking/2011/bookrank1201/index05_1.html
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God, 100 reprints. That's a lot.
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So Mario's gonna be in Jump Alpha next week. The prelude was in this week's.
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If you divided the total sales by the amount of volumes of each series to find the per volume purchase, the rank would change… to be like this
1. One Piece(69 volumes) : 4.173 million people
2. Slam Dunk(31) : 3.880 m
3. Dragon Ball(42) : 3.743 m
4. Yu Yu Hakusho(19) : 2.631 m
5. Kenshin(28) : 2.096 m
6. Hunter(32) : 2.058 m
7. Naruto(64) : 2.051 m
8. Bleach(58) : 1.415 m
9. Kochikame(185) : 0.845 m
10. Jojo(107) : 0.644 mOne Piece is still no.1, and Togashi rocks XD
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Thats a way to get an average, but I imagine there's going to be a bias towards the earlier try-out volumes for most series… and the most recent.
While it might be people's goal to get all of One Piece or Dragonball, even at the cheap price they're available at, it'd still take most kids or casual readers several years to build up to the entire collection, a volume or two at a time. Jojo in particular I can see people picking up on certain arcs only (especially with it being 107 volumes and the early arcs being distinctly different from the later) ... and Naruto and Bleach I can see having one or two specific highlight fights that you liked in the anime and skipping the rest... or having say the first 10-20 volumes before growing bored with a series decline.
Almost no one is going to have all 185 volumes of a current-event oriented 30 year running gag manga like Kochikame.
All in all, its probably pretty inacurate to assume all buyers are going to have all volumes.
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NOT TO MENTION SPACE!
My mother couldn't even afford to give me my own room when I was a child, there's no way she'd let me have hundreds of volumes of manga stocked in the bookshelf lol. Even in the later years when we were fairly well off, owning a spacey condo, at the best I could afford to keep was around a hundred or two.
It wasn't until I was in the Jr high we had afforded a nice family-sized condo with 3-4 bedrooms, and I could have a large collection of manga.
Japanese homes are very tight in space in general.
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is that list 'official' or another of those 'estimation'…..?
anyway glad to see Kenshin up there...it is the first manga i read(back in 2004-05)..when i started i even didn't know it should be read from right to left and first few chapters were confusing until i find it out by myself...i got it from a folder title 'comics' from a friend's computer and as i had already seen some anime episodes of it in animax,was just mildly interested how it looked like in print.....
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is that list 'official' or another of those 'estimation'…..?
It's a published data from Shuueisha, on a pamphlet aimed towards stores as a guide for their products.
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Place is a big city problem everywhere. My shelves where almost already full of French comics when I started reading manga so I only have oneshots at my place. I moved the series to my parents one. Digital could be a solution even if it's not my favourite.
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On that list Kochikame is the one that amazes me. gag manga tend to sell preety shabby compared to other shonen gemres, and one as beholden to current topics as Kochikame can't have high long-term sales. But man, it averages so well.
Wish i'd picked up volume 1 of Kochikame when i was on Oz though, i'd love to know how many printings that has
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I'd also be really curious to see the reprint number on volume 2 as well. It's probably much, much lower reprint count. It'd be interesting to see how many people just try out the first one. Somewhere in the middle (around 30) would also be a lot more telling than the first volume… especially since they eventually started printing 3-3.5 million up front on first printings. (I have no idea how long that's been the case, but the last several years at least.)
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perhaps 30-40 years down the line first print of first volume will become collector's item…
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If by collectors item you mean "sell for 10$ more"… maybe. First printings of books are generally more valuable than second printings, but that really only applies when the number is really low... and generally only when there's only a few printings at all. When its RARE basically.
When there's 100 printings, and millions of copies floating about, and its going to keep getting reprinted every time stock runs low so that it's always on the shelves? Not so much. The difference in value is nonexistant after maybe the third or fourth printing.
While having a first printing of a super rare comic like Superman or Ninja Turtles 1 is worth something after a few decades, due to there being only a handful of them in existence, generally having the collected trade reprint of those things (especially when there's MILLIONS of them in circulation) don't increase in value at all.
It'd have to have something unique to that original printing to drive the price up.
The actual Jump issue with the first chapter might be worth a little something to a crazy collector someday, since the weeklies are printed on cheap paper and tend to be thrown away, and there won't be a lot of those running around even now. But you'd have to find such a crazy collector first.
But yes. In 40 years, it could be something. But I have to imagine Shueisha is going to keep it in-print indefinitely.
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I dont japan nerds are first print freaks like their western counterparts…theyre more like limited edition special event sort of freaks.
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I dont japan nerds are first print freaks like their western counterparts…theyre more like limited edition special event sort of freaks.
Rarity is what it is. If there's limited quantities and something is hard to find, that drives the price up. American publications don't go through that many printings, so there's often actual differences and things that make them collectible. (Change in cover, a new forward, fixing of errors, coming from an out of buisness publisher, only having 1000 copies existing, things like that.)
I imagine there's not a lot of difference between the first and 100th printing of OP, so there's nothing to drive the value up.
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manga has been really making inroad to non-japanese readers since DBZ exploded and 'anime' started to rub shoulder with 'cartoon'…..less than 20 years...then online scanlation....started around the end of 20th century...then came online readers...around 2004-05...readership increased exponentially.....
characters like spider-man,superman have had been in the scene for long enough and still attract way way more worldwide attention ....but i think 30-40 years from now manga will have bigger audience than these western heroes and those first print-first volume of classic mangas will have great attraction,particularly outside of Japan.....
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@Maxy:
On that list Kochikame is the one that amazes me. gag manga tend to sell preety shabby compared to other shonen gemres, and one as beholden to current topics as Kochikame can't have high long-term sales.
I wonder, does the series have things in it that are sorta off in retrospect ? I know long running series tend to.
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@RobbyBevard:
The actual Jump issue with the first chapter might be worth a little something to a crazy collector someday, since the weeklies are printed on cheap paper and tend to be thrown away, and there won't be a lot of those running around even now. But you'd have to find such a crazy collector first.
I actualy wouldn't mind seeing/owning that.
You know, as a bit of history.
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Also I just noticed that's Robby.
Totally threw me off with the avatar there.
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manga has been really making inroad to non-japanese readers since DBZ exploded and 'anime' started to rub shoulder with 'cartoon'…..less than 20 years...then online scanlation....started around the end of 20th century...then came online readers...around 2004-05...readership increased exponentially.....
characters like spider-man,superman have had been in the scene for long enough and still attract way way more worldwide attention ....but i think 30-40 years from now manga will have bigger audience than these western heroes and those first print-first volume of classic mangas will have great attraction,particularly outside of Japan.....
I wouldn't encourage manga readers to fall into the same pitfalls as western comics readers and think about collectibles. That way lies terrible, terrible human beings. comics are comics are comics, collector's markets should never have factored in, and in most cases are just make believe by people who bought 20 copies of x-men #1
@No:
I wonder, does the series have things in it that are sorta off in retrospect ? I know long running series tend to.
From what I've read there's not so much that feels off compared to a lot of older series, but there sure are a lot of topics that are just… They'd only really work with people who were living in Japan when the comics were coming out? Just old references and stuff.
Really tempted to see if there's any weird old chapters with accidental racism or anything in it now, though.
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@Maxy:
From what I've read there's not so much that feels off compared to a lot of older series, but there sure are a lot of topics that are just… They'd only really work with people who were living in Japan when the comics were coming out? Just old references and stuff.
Really tempted to see if there's any weird old chapters with accidental racism or anything in it now, though.
Do you remember any specific examples ?
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but i think 30-40 years from now manga will have bigger audience than these western heroes and those first print-first volume of classic mangas will have great attraction,particularly outside of Japan…..
…didn't you read ANYTHING that Robby just wrote?