@Portgas-D-Ace:
As many have mentioned before me, purple being associated with gravity in Japanese culture
Whoa wait, it is?
@Portgas-D-Ace:
As many have mentioned before me, purple being associated with gravity in Japanese culture
Whoa wait, it is?
Didn't know that. If Wano lets me see this then I am definitely down:
i hope you mean a real tengu…not mr. karate.
Just like how we got to see Fishmen Karate Dojo!
…......... oh wait
Whoa wait, it is?
Alright sarcasm detected. I'll make it a point from now on not to make inane posts again.
Whoa wait, it is?
*modern media culture
Just about every gravity-based spell/magic/attack in most JRPGs and games in general, particularly SqENIX's.
And like I said earlier, Samus' Gravity Suit :ninja:
@Portgas-D-Ace:
Alright sarcasm detected. I'll make it a point from now on not to make inane posts again.
Well, I just wanted a source. I was absent from the thread for a while, so I guess I missed it.
EDIT: Oh okay, I see. Should've thought of the Gravity Suit.
So Law gave Nami a Vivre Card to Zou in case something happened to him, Robin and Usopp, right ? …I'm calling it, the Heart Pirates are going to make a return in this arc. Just an intuition so far, but I think shit will hit the fan for Law's group, and the other Straw Hats will have to go to Zou to get the Heart Pirates to help them save them.
yeah i had been saying that since the spoilers came out.
=== some guys in LAW's GROUP will be the hostages of this arc. the one's who would escape will contact the guys in the sunny.
=== some guys in NAMI's GROUP (most prolly momo) will be also be caught. and the rest of the remaining members there will fetch law's crew to save the day at the climax of the arc.
=== LUFFY's GROUP and prolly the one who escaped from LAW's GROUP (i'm guessing law and ussop) will enter in a team tournament against diamante's group.
after the tournament, shit will go deeper because luffy will have enough reason to kick doflamingo's ass since doflamingo will most likely play dirty. (hostages from his crew, momo and kanjuuro + ace's fruit)….every member of luffy's team will have a reason to fight in a tournament arc.
Well, I just wanted a source. I was absent from the thread for a while, so I guess I missed it.
EDIT: Oh okay, I see. Should've thought of the Gravity Suit.
Ah sorry about that. It's just that you're a familiar face round here and I thought you kinda had a point about my post being redundant. Oh and thanks for the rectification and explanation CCC.
That guy would either be the very best babysitter or the very worst.
@CCC:
Mostly, "Well I don't really think Fujitora is necessarily an admiral. And blind guy isn't necessarily Fujitora. I mean, I apparently haven't been reading One Piece or these forums or the countless explanations by Aohige, but I'm still convinced that my opinion is well-formed and substantiated."
that's what i think too:ninja:.to me ,there is a 75%chance of blind guy being fujitora.he would be great as a bounty hunter too.and we have not seen an awesome bounty hunter.
you know,somehow i want to see blind guy not being an admiral just to see everyone's reaction.but there's no reason to clog up the forum discussing something that will be resolve later.
and now to make my post not useless,here's something i have been thinking about douflamingo.
@Sofiawillows:
Hi guys! Nice to meet you all!! This is actually my first post, but I've been lurking for a while (and yes, I read the entire thread).
! A lot of people brought up the fact that the people of Dressrosa seem to genuinely appreciate Doflamingo, and I think this is a major factor in the direction of this arc.
! To talk about the direction of this arc and Doflamingo's role, first we should consider the larger theme of One Piece - clearly, it's not about conventional 'good' vs. 'bad', which is made very clear from the get-go because the main characters are stealing, law-breaking, and sometimes violent PIRATES. One Piece also doesn't deal with conventional morals such as 'killing is bad', '7 sins are bad', 'being selfish is bad', 'world peace', etc…
! Instead, we have seen consistently that the "bad guys" are those who lie with manipulative intentions and those who oppress others/ inhibit freedom. I.e. Arlong - oppressed the people, inhibited Nami's freedom; Wapol - oppressed the people of Drum; Crocodile - lied, oppressed the Alabastans, restricted freedom of access to rain; Enel - oppressive rule, lied; CP9-the system they stood for, the WG justice system, was highly oppressive: it covered up the Ohara system, prevention of freedom of access to ancient language, took Robin against her will; Moria - restricted freedom of those trapped on thriller bark, plans for dominance/tyranny in the world; World Government - covered up void century, hunts down those who seek freedom (pirates and revolutionaries), spawns corruption, Tenryuubito (oppression of other social classes). Almost all of the major antagonists are portrayed in a much more sympathetic light once they stop lieing and oppressing.
! This has also differentiated between which characters ultimately ended up as the antagonistic forces of the arc and which characters had little skirmishes with the strawhats but ultimately ended up allying with them. For example, the Franky Brothers, Brownbeard, diving crew on Jaya, the Shandians, Boa Hancock, Flying Fishman Riders (okay, they were joke characters, but still...), etc... all did not lie with malicious intents and all did not oppress any others; they all did not end up as major antagonists.
! This brings me to my point. We have not actually seen Doflamingo do anything particularly oppressive or stand for anything particularly oppressive. The Slave auctions are a thing of the past, the kidnapped/drugged kids were more of Ceasar's doing (correct me if I'm wrong), and there is nothing particularly wrong with weapons dealing or selling smilies, especially seeing how his weapons are helping rebels. Instead, Doflamingo is widely respected by his crew and subjects. Right now, Doflamingo does not really fit into the previous trends. It is not enough that we, the readers, see Doflamingo as sinister and dangerous.To be a real antagonist, Doflamingo will have to either lie to the weak, or he will in some way oppress people/ restrict them from achieving their dreams. In conclusion...
! 1) There is something very sinister about Dressrosa
- Doflamingo is planning some kind of world-takeover scheme
- Doflamingo is not the real enemy (hard to believe, I know, because he has been hyped up for so long. He could, however, still get the obligatory punch in the face, the factory would get destroyed, and his business would fall apart, but maybe he wouldn't be the big baddie of the arc on the same level as Crocodile and Enel. Dare I say, they would ally together against Kaidou? This last part is a wild shot in the dark, don't take it seriously)
so,as everyone knows that douflamingo hasn't been shown as a quintessential bad guy.but i think that he doesn't necessarily have to be shown bad.i mean,he would mark a departure from the usual antagonists of one piece.i mean,the series is about pirates,not about vigilantes.
everything the strawhats do doesn't has to fit in the usual"good vs bad" archetype.maybe this time we will see them do something just for the heck for it.of course,that doesn't mean doffy will be a saint either.and neither does that mean strawhats have to be jerks.
just my thoughts.
edit:and it is overdoing it to call anyone who thinks blind guy is not fujitora a noob.why,i think it's more apt to say that anyone who think luffy will eat mera mra is a noob,or anyone who think luffy and zoro were referring to blackbeard's multiple bodies in that infamous dialogue in jaya is a noob. but still you don't see me calling everyone a noob
Wolfwoof, you and some of the other mods (aohige, CCC) have been trying non-stop to convince these posters who joined APforums in late 2012 or 2013. They obviously don't know that much about One Piece, Oda's style, or much about Japanese culture (famous actors, etc).
Just let them believe whatever, because in a few chapters we will get confirmation and they will change their minds. I've given up trying to reason with these newer members who are either trolls or just don't understand One Piece
yep. i gave up reading about it 20 pages ago.
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@Yosemite:
Quite the elitist way of thinking there, pal.
I may have a Feb. 2013 join date, but I've been following this series since the summer of 2011 and spent that entire summer reading the series and catching up. I spend time every week reading this forum and listening to the OPP so I can be just that much more involved in the fanbase that I'm pretty proud to be a part of. Now I wouldn't say I'm more knowledgeable about the series than someone following since 2004 or something, but I'd say my opinion and thoughts are more than just some throwaway bullshit.
Now, I bet you're a nice guy and all, and I can see that there are some on here that should do a bit of homework on the series before posting, but to say posters that joined in the past 2-3 months are all newbies that shouldn't be listened to is kind of unfair, don't you think?
word. i started reading one piece 2003 and i just had been interested in one piece forums back in 2011.
48 pages of posts are too long to read my friend :getlost:
Not even 10%, it is literally mentioned in every page^^
i hope you mean a real tengu…not mr. karate.
LOL. What Tengu or Mr. Karate are u talking about. That's obviously SogeSage, SogeKing's mentor
Popular? No. More well known than other Bollywood stuff? Yes.
I'd call it more of a cult hit.
He is more like the Chuck Norris of India. So is there any little chance that Oda might incorporate his references in any of OP characters? Just my wishful thinking though. Happy that Aohige knows about Bollywood.
Them, or the fairies. :ninja:
16 chars of I hope not. Minkmen FTW
Well, its up in the air. :/
No one foresaw living toys. And from what it seems, they're a species on their own.
@'T€:
@$;2836119']He is more like the Chuck Norris of India. So is there any little chance that Oda might incorporate his references in any of OP characters? Just my wishful thinking though. Happy that Aohige knows about Bollywood.
just no.why would oda incorporate rajnikanth?he rarely incorporates people or celebrities(exception being japanese).he is more inclined to include the cultural,social and physical attributes of a place.and there are better cliches and much more "indian" stuff that he can take.and skypiea and the overall manga has references to hindu mythology.
more importantly,why do you want him to do something like that?rajnikanth sucks.
just no.why would oda incorporate rajnikanth?he rarely incorporates people or celebrities(exception being japanese).he is more inclined to include the cultural,social and physical attributes of a place.and there are better cliches and much more "indian" stuff that he can take.and skypiea and the overall manga has references to hindu mythology.
more importantly,why do you want him to do something like that?rajnikanth sucks.
I agree with what you said but i think a Rajnikanth like character would be hilarious. and there is also a Steve Buscemi reference to Sanji.
@'T€:
@$;2836125']I agree with what you said but i think a Rajnikanth like character would be hilarious. and there is also a Steve Buscemi reference to Sanji.
well,if you consider his ridiculous super-strength,and that he(or any south-indian film character) is able to beat hordes of enemy ,i would say that almost every strong character is like rajnikanth.except here we have good fight choreography.
well,if you consider his ridiculous super-strength,and that he(or any south-indian film character) is able to beat hordes of enemy ,i would say that almost every strong character is like rajnikanth.except here we have good fight choreography.
haha its not about super strength alone but funny quirks and quotes. and lolSalman khan and SUnny delol having good fight choreography. lol u made my day
@Foxy:
Onigumo seems to be underestimated a lot. Don't forget that he was the one who was tasked with escorting Ace to Marineford.
There were 5 vice admirals who escorted Ace from Impel Down: http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/24969_one-piece_chapter_539/page_15
you know,somehow i want to see blind guy not being an admiral just to see everyone's reaction
Same here. At first I didn't really care, but after all this "lol at idiots who think it's not Fujitora" crap… I'm really hoping it's not him.
Same here. At first I didn't really care, but after all this "lol at idiots who think it's not Fujitora" crap… I'm really hoping it's not him.
You realize you repeating that is getting just as obnoxious and annoying right?
'course you don't.
If it's of any concern, this isn't a point being argued in Japanese forums.
Not that you'd care, you just want people to burn.
! >! the blind guy is the head of donquxote family :ninja:
You realize you repeating that is getting just as obnoxious and annoying right?
'course you don't.If it's of any concern, this isn't a point being argued in Japanese forums.
Not that you'd care, you just want people to burn.
"He who fights monsters…", I guess.
@zeff:
! >! the blind guy is the head of donquxote family
! >! No.
"He who fights monsters…", I guess.
Wanting the story to turn from its plotlines, patterns, and foreshadowing simply so you can feel good in a forum indicates you care more about its social bearings to you than the actual One Piece manga itself. It's just a very unhealthy path to take.
It's sorta like those people who go "I hate xxxxx because of the fans". That to me indicates he/she doesn't really care for that story in the first place. You know what I mean?
To clarify:
"I want xxx to happen because I would like it" = this is a matter of personal opinion, and is perfectly healthy
"I want xxx to happen so I can laugh at people in a forum" = this indicates complete lack of respect to the said story.
Wanting the story to turn from its plotlines, patterns, and foreshadowing simply so you can feel good in a forum indicates you care more about its social bearings to you than the actual One Piece manga itself. It's just a very unhealthy path to take.
It's sorta like those people who go "I hate xxxxx because of the fans". That to me indicates he/she doesn't really care for that story in the first place. You know what I mean?
Haha. I don't hate One Piece or it's fans. I'm just a little annoyed. Would him not being an admiral be that terrible? "Plolines, patterns and foreshadowing"… It's only the famous actor thing (which is pretty good evidence, though). But it's not like it would be an asspull if he's not an admiral. And I don't think wanting the story to go in a different direction is an unhealthy path?
And I'm not saying he's isn't Fujitora... Just that you don't need to attack/make fun of people who are (saying that).
Could someone tell me in which panel Momonosuke punches Luffys balls? I've been staring at his crotch for a few minutes now but I can't spot anything (:getlost:).
Could someone tell me in which panel Momonosuke punches Luffys balls? I've been staring at his crotch for a few minutes now but I can't spot anything (:getlost:).
sixteen chars of middle panel .
But it's not like it would be an asspull if he's not an admiral.
The Japanese forums aren't even talking about it because it's such a foregone conclusion.
It would absolutely be an asspull. It's seriously to that extent. Oda gave us the new admiral name last chapter, and we get a Japanese actor at the place where said admiral is supposed to be in the next chapter. I was actually thinking about this earlier- IF blind guy weren't Fujitora, then it would be because Oda was performing the wiliest, sneakiest trolling in all of One Piece. It would be an intentional misdirect, and would probably even be reflected with some lampshading by the characters (like, the actual Admiral would walk up to blind guy and say, "hey, you look like you'd be good for this job," or a strawhat would say "Wow, with that sort of power I thought you were an admiral for sure!").
Those are the options here. Obvious conclusion, or deliberate misdirect. There's no middle ground.
What's frustrating is when people look at the evidence and say, "Ehhhhhhhhhh maybe, I guess," like with Shichibukai Buggy, or Sabo being alive. Granted, I'll concede to you perhaps we shouldn't get so carried away, because getting frustrated never helped anything. And because this is a children's pirate comic. Better to just have fun with it, as with the "Is Monet dead?" poll, I guess.
oda has made some misdirects.like ace being dragon's son.
oda has made some misdirects.like ace being dragon's son.
Which did not contradict what he laid out prior. This does.
And I don't think wanting the story to go in a different direction is an unhealthy path?
It's your REASONING behind it.
Here, again
"I want xxx to happen because I would like it" = this is a matter of personal opinion, and is perfectly healthy
"I want xxx to happen so I can laugh at people in a forum" = this indicates complete lack of respect to the said story.
It's your REASONING behind it.
Here, again
Ah, okay. I don't think it's that bad, though. I don't care that much…
@Aohige_AP:
This does.
Not really. It's not like it's been stated in story that you must be based on a famous actor…
But whatever, I don't want to argue about this.
sixteen chars of middle panel .
Thank you. Would have definitely missed it without the forums.
Not really. It's not like it's been stated in story that you must be based on a famous actor…
It would be strange if the blind guy was not an Admiral yet resembled an actor. It'd be too corny to lead us on that way and then to switch completely, because he'd be the only non-Admiral with a link to a Japanese actor, which is a desperate attempt to mislead us. That's would contradict Oda's style, because he could think of better ways to mislead us without breaking the "link to an actor" chain.
Re-reading the chapter I noticed how pumped up Franky is about blowing up the factory. Normally he doesn't have that drive and just goes along with the SHs. Oda has him feeling SUPER~ with the revelation of the mission being to blow something up. That's Franky's speciality! You know he's gonna come out of nowhere with a beam or something and just take that factory out. Having an individual personality trait give extra purpose to a Straw Hat is one of Oda's specialities, and is what keeps our interest in every crew member (we need more from Robin outside her search for Poneglyphs, like a mission of stealth which she can do).
@CCC:
The Japanese forums aren't even talking about it because it's such a foregone conclusion.
It would absolutely be an asspull. It's seriously to that extent. Oda gave us the new admiral name last chapter, and we get a Japanese actor at the place where said admiral is supposed to be in the next chapter. I was actually thinking about this earlier- IF blind guy weren't Fujitora, then it would be because Oda was performing the wiliest, sneakiest trolling in all of One Piece. It would be an intentional misdirect, and would probably even be reflected with some lampshading by the characters (like, the actual Admiral would walk up to blind guy and say, "hey, you look like you'd be good for this job," or a strawhat would say "Wow, with that sort of power I thought you were an admiral for sure!").Those are the options here. Obvious conclusion, or deliberate misdirect. There's no middle ground.
What's frustrating is when people look at the evidence and say, "Ehhhhhhhhhh maybe, I guess," like with Shichibukai Buggy, or Sabo being alive. Granted, I'll concede to you perhaps we shouldn't get so carried away, because getting frustrated never helped anything. And because this is a children's pirate comic. Better to just have fun with it, as with the "Is Monet dead?" poll, I guess.
Not to mention he seems to have that care free like personality that matches the admirals that have been sent out to find the straw hats. Aokiji sleeping on the job, Kizaru looking derpy while trying to contact something through the DenDen Mushi. Fujitora gambling while waiting for Luffy and Co just seems to match that case so much.
@$abZ:
It would be strange if the blind guy was not an Admiral yet resembled an actor. It'd be too corny to lead us on that way and then to switch completely, because he'd be the only non-Admiral with a link to a Japanese actor, which is a desperate attempt to mislead us. That's would contradict Oda's style, because he could think of better ways to mislead us without breaking the "link to an actor" chain.
Re-reading the chapter I noticed how pumped up Franky is about blowing up the factory. Normally he doesn't have that drive and just goes along with the SHs. Oda has him feeling SUPER~ with the revelation of the mission being to blow something up. That's Franky's speciality! You know he's gonna come out of nowhere with a beam or something and just take that factory out. Having an individual personality trait give extra purpose to a Straw Hat is one of Oda's specialities, and is what keeps our interest in every crew member (we need more from Robin outside her search for Poneglyphs, like a mission of stealth which she can do).
Yeah I pointed that out before, ever since he revealed that laser beam he has been hyping it up by spamming it everywhere :P
I can see it now, Luffy will slip his name out.
I can see it now, Luffy will slip his name out.
Blind Guy (Fujitora): Who are you?
Luffy: I'm Luffy, the man who will become Pirate King!
Zoro, Sanji, Franky & Kinemon: YOU IDIOT!!!
Sounds about right to me.
I wonder if the fight against Fujitora will be anything like this.
!
He could easily stop Luffy from zapping around in gear second, taking away his greatest advantage in battle.
Wonder how many more of these oh it doesn't have to be the character that Oda wants us to know it is
Should we call it the Buggy syndrome?
@$abZ:
Blind Guy (Fujitora): Who are you?
Luffy: I'm Luffy, the man who will become Pirate King!
Zoro, Sanji, Franky & Kinemon: YOU IDIOT!!!Sounds about right to me.
Hahah you just know this is bound to happen!
You realize you repeating that is getting just as obnoxious and annoying right?
'course you don't.If it's of any concern, this isn't a point being argued in Japanese forums.
Not that you'd care, you just want people to burn.
Just as a point of interest what is being discussed on Japanese forums right now? I'm kind of amazed that we've basically had a brand new race revealed in the latest chapter and that it's had little to no discussion. Instead we've had page after page of this fujitora "debate".
I'm actually fascinated by how different the japanese OP forums are to our own? Do they have a very different atmosphere to AP? Or are they too dominated by people arguing over what is meant by "strongest swordsman" (to be fair I haven't seen this particular debate in a while but it's always been one tht annoyed me whenever it resurfaced)?
btw thank you for your excellent translations and insight, don't think I've ever had a chance to say thanks
@$abZ:
Blind Guy (Fujitora): Who are you?
Luffy: I'm Luffy, the man who will become Pirate King!
Zoro, Sanji, Franky & Kinemon: YOU IDIOT!!!Sounds about right to me.
I could see the reaction of Blind guy's going two ways
I would go with #1 though
Blind man isnt fujitora he is another admiral. That would troll us hard ^^. Although you gotta wonder why Akainou would send a blind admiral to find Luffy.
For all those complaining that ppl should recognize the admirals when they see them i have to disagree with you. Remember the first time we net Kuzan, the rest of the crew had no clue who he was only Robin knew.
Oda introductions to new places are always awesome. Everything seems so nice and peaceful, nothing can be that good :). I wonder when will we meet the other side of the country. We have to remember that DD is now King but what happened to the previews king, what happened to his family, to his followers.
I really wonder why Green bit cant be reached by sea, we cant even speculate that its on calm belt since that compass rules that out.
Fujitora is the "New Akainu" (blind justice). The other admiral if probably a mildly good guy like Aokiji.
Plus he probably has the best CoO we've seen so far, so I can't see him having problems tracking people down. We was able to sense where the roulette ball was going to land. He probably has a "maxed out version" of the Blind Swordsman from the films' abilities of sensing.
edit: I doubt it's related but apparently a "blind tiger" is slang for an illegal bar (think prohibition era)
Well, it's just too hard to believe that the blind guy is an admiral.
I think he is a new nakama.
i don't know is somebody already said this,if yes i apologize.i think the blind ossan is from the roger pirates,scopper gaban or whatever his name was,thats my bet
I'M LATE.
But dat chapter. I liked it o O o
I still think the whole plan has many holes because, well, we know little about it, or at least I feel like it.
Making Dofla quit the Shichi and resign as a King of Dressrosa seemed quite random, and more of a personal vendetta from Law than part of a bigger plan.
Also, as people said, placing a meeting in an island that you can only access by land and crossing the country of the man you're endlessly pissing off does seem like a bad idea.
I'm expecting things getting explained in a satisfactory manner in future chapters.
Meanwhile, I hope that the adventuring part of One Piece takes center stage for a while. Love these moments.
Can I share something with you, guys? For some weird reason, after seeing those toys living alongside humans, first thing comes to my mind is that did Doflamingo had a crewmember that is actually a toy? I checked all the Donquixote Pirates that we've seen so far and none of them looks like a toy except that Spade seat guy with spike spaulders. I think he's a toy, I know it sounds silly but I don't know. What do you guys think? Also, I think the reason why all the toys are alive maybe because of the faeries or Doflamingo's DF power? (would make sense since he's like the Puppet Master)
still reading the thread so not sure if anyone has posted this but…. we might see franky with actual PANTS!!! lets hope ppl.