Things in manga/anime you're sick of seeing

[Tsukishima]

Schools, they need to burn, all of them. I mean seriously, aren't you tired of seeing this:

• Average MC who lives a "normal life in a normal school."
• Clubs with obscure name and purpose (Student Cultural Society…). What's wrong with normal clubs??
• "Good morning class! This is a new transfer student." "EHHH!? you're the guy/girl that I met yesterday."
• Cultural Festival episode.
• A character runs with a toast in his mouth because he is late for school.
• Playboy walks in the school all the girls are fangasming: "KYAAAAH! Playboy-kun!!!!" or muttering:"Playboy-kun is so cool! I hope he notices me!".
• Childhood friend who loves MC although he is boring and ordinary, because they remember that in the first Thursday of February in 5th grade, they saw him save a kitty."
• School trips, always the occasion for a character to acknowledge his feelings for another.
• Psychologics don't exist and friendship speeches are enough to cure years of trauma.
• Character who spends most of their free-time on the roof of their school. The schoolyard is too mainstream.
• The MC is always seating in the back row next to the window.
• Foreigners are always blond and pretty.

And so on...

[ibrahim2712]

@Tsukishima:

• Character who spends most of their free-time on the roof of their school. The schoolyard is too mainstream.

LOL I immidietly thought of Yusuke Urameshi hahaha

[1PceXperience]

@Tsukishima:

Schools, they need to burn, all of them. I mean seriously, aren't you tired of seeing this:

• Average MC who lives a "normal life in a normal school."
• Clubs with obscure name and purpose (Student Cultural Society…). What's wrong with normal clubs??
• "Good morning class! This is a new transfer student." "EHHH!? you're the guy/girl that I met yesterday."
• Cultural Festival episode.
• A character runs with a toast in his mouth because he is late for school.
• Playboy walks in the school all the girls are fangasming: "KYAAAAH! Playboy-kun!!!!" or muttering:"Playboy-kun is so cool! I hope he notices me!".
• Childhood friend who loves MC although he is boring and ordinary, because they remember that in the first Thursday of February in 5th grade, they saw him save a kitty."
• School trips, always the occasion for a character to acknowledge his feelings for another.
• Psychologics don't exist and friendship speeches are enough to cure years of trauma.
• Character who spends most of their free-time on the roof of their school. The schoolyard is too mainstream.
• The MC is always seating in the back row next to the window.
• Foreigners are always blond and pretty.

And so on…

There's so much win in this post, but you (melon) had me at the transfer student part. It seems that most Shounen titles are no different than Hollywood. Sure we have our exceptions on both sides (Matt Damon makes great movies), but there does not seem to be a slow down of recycled content. Maybe this is why we love those "out in the wild" type of anime like One Piece and Magi.

[MetaMario]

@Tsukishima:

Schools, they need to burn, all of them. I mean seriously, aren't you tired of seeing this:

• Average MC who lives a "normal life in a normal school."
• Clubs with obscure name and purpose (Student Cultural Society…). What's wrong with normal clubs??
• "Good morning class! This is a new transfer student." "EHHH!? you're the guy/girl that I met yesterday."
• Cultural Festival episode.
• A character runs with a toast in his mouth because he is late for school.
• Playboy walks in the school all the girls are fangasming: "KYAAAAH! Playboy-kun!!!!" or muttering:"Playboy-kun is so cool! I hope he notices me!".
• Childhood friend who loves MC although he is boring and ordinary, because they remember that in the first Thursday of February in 5th grade, they saw him save a kitty."
• School trips, always the occasion for a character to acknowledge his feelings for another.
• Psychologics don't exist and friendship speeches are enough to cure years of trauma.
• Character who spends most of their free-time on the roof of their school. The schoolyard is too mainstream.
• The MC is always seating in the back row next to the window.
• Foreigners are always blond and pretty.

And so on...

Man! Why do so many titles have all of this stuff?

I've seriously seen all of these things like 100 times. Especially the toast thing and main characters sitting in the back. And how many shonen start off this way? Bleach, Reborn…...makes you really appreciate the series that say "screw the norm" and set the story in some kind of fantasy or surreal situation right off the bat.

Like One Piece, Naruto, Toriko, Dragon Ball.....

my little pony is completely overrated in every sense of the word

[desa]

@Tsukishima:

• Foreigners are always blond and pretty.
  .

I love this cliche.

But I just found it irritating that when how someone explain how good he is to a MC he usually get beat up easy.

[Thugcat]

Seriousely, I read the end of Samurai deeper Kyo yesterday and I do not want to insist but initial concept being torn apart is really bad. The end IS SO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.

I remember about when I heard about Samurai Deeper Kyo. A killer samurai douchbag emprisoned in a 5 feet katana, awesome art, plot taking place in edo era, a lot of suspens, real name/real characters mixed with manga code, katana fight… This was what I wanted from a manga.

But then I realised after 5 tomes the manga sucks H A R D. Fight sucks, character development sucks, too many wrong clichés, ridicule plot twist, the final is awful, everything is far fetched... I stop reading after tome 17 and that was highly painful. I read the end yesterday, and really, this manga could have been great.

I wish one day someone could emulate this mangaka style of drawing, keep kyo the way it is, taking the initial plot and make a good damn story and a good fighting manga out of it.

Full Metal Alchemist comes to mind.

Yep and of all the manga I read to the end, this only one who kept the quality up and ends well.

[Katzztar]

I agree that the school plot is overused and predictable.
And yeah, first I thoguht of was Urameshi of Yu Yu Hakusho … though that didn't really follow that plot, the first issue had him getting killed in a car accident to save a toddler ... who would have been fine even if Urameshi didn't push him out of the way.

The thing that really botehrs me in Manga is the sudden dropping of the series or it takes year/s to get a new chapter.
I enjoyed several: King of Hell, PHD:Phantasy Degree, Bizenghist, BASTARD!!, but some just end while others takes so long that I thought they did end.

[Cyclone_Baroness]

Teachers openly swooning over students.

[Ultra]

What I'm sick of seeing:

Reactions as the punchline. Seriously, if character trips, other character sweat drops and screams "She just tripped!?!?!??!?!" It's not funny at all.

I'm also sick of high schoolers being drawn like two year olds.

Not totally anime specific, but I'm also fucking sick of characters having cat ears. I don't care what your explanation is, it's stupid.

[Thugcat]

Japan saving the world.

Japan winning a non-pingpong competition.

I'm not being racist or anything, but last time I saw a japanese or a japan team win a valuable competition it was the DMC 2002 ( Dj kentaro ).

[No Maam]

This usualy goes for fight chapters but: panels of characters repeating what character X just did/said. Why ? Because they're bloody unecessary. Sakigake Otokojuku, which I'm reading now, is a prime example of this where literaly 50 % of a chapter is just characters parroting what someone just said or describing what just happened to exactly no one who didn't see it as well. It's literaly gotten to a point where I skip these panels entierly, because there's never anything new there.

Worse, in one chapter something happened that wasn't immediately clear from the pictures and that, as you may have predicted, was one of the few times we didn't get a description of any kind. Kinda like in Being Human, a terrible 90's Robin Williams movie everyone's forgotten about, which is realy just an anthology of five shorter films all starring Robin Williams, except only one of them feels like a complete story, and the dreadfull, absolutely useless narrating voice of Theresa Russell always, always goes in and describes everything that happens even when it's detrimental to the effectiveness of the scene….

except at the very begining where there's a weird, unexplained, totaly pointless sequay-thing which literaly has no meaning except to kill five minutes of screentime, and have us literaly be in the exact same situation as we were before it happened.

Also about the movie, Wikipedia has this to say

Reception

Critics panned the film.
[[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Being_Human_(film)&action=edit§ion=5"]edit]Box office

The movie was not a success

I just can't stop laughing at this.

[IceBorg]

@Thugcat:

Japan saving the world.

Japan winning a non-pingpong competition.

I'm not being racist or anything, but last time I saw a japanese or a japan team win a valuable competition it was the DMC 2002 ( Dj kentaro ).

I don't get this. Its like complaining that every superhero is american.

[No Maam]

@IceBorg:

I don't get this. Its like complaining that every superhero is american.

But there comes a time when every single solitary "warrior destined to save mankind chosen by destiny" coming from Japan gets a bit well, narcicist.

[IceBorg]

@No:

But there comes a time when every single solitary "warrior destined to save mankind chosen by destiny" coming from Japan gets a bit well, narcicist.

My point is that its not a manga/anime thing.

[No Maam]

@IceBorg:

My point is that its not a manga/anime thing.

It kinda is. Granted it has parallels elsewhere but it happens there alot too.

Because you could basicly apply the same argument to most criticism.

[Thugcat]

I don't get this. Its like complaining that every superhero is american.

Never said that the " every superhero is americain " isn't as dumb as what I stated before about japanese.

It's dumb too. I'm not american by the way.

[desa]

@IceBorg:

My point is that its not a manga/anime thing.

It is. It just like in hollywood movie z:
-Aliens go to USA as the center of the world
-USA saves from aliens
-USA saves the world
-USA has the only people able to tell you that the world will be fuck in X day.

It's normal and it happens

[No Maam]

For once I wanna see a big budget movie where Denmark saves all of manking from certain doom.

[1PceXperience]

@desa:

It is. It just like in hollywood movie z:

-USA has the only people able to tell you that the world will be fuck in X day.

It's normal and it happens

That's not entirely true. In movies the Russians and the British play a big role in the intel field. :p Good thing Matt Damon doesnt get caught up in such films. Citizen Kane is truly a classic compared to trash like that. Movie goers these days have no clue… WHAT A DISGRACE!!!! I spit on their (pineapple) DVDs

[IceBorg]

@No:

It kinda is. Granted it has parallels elsewhere but it happens there alot too.

Because you could basicly apply the same argument to most criticism.

@Thugcat:

Never said that the " every superhero is americain " isn't as dumb as what I stated before about japanese.

It's dumb too. I'm not american by the way.

Okay thats fair, but still kinda nitpicking is it not? I know its all fictional so it never really bothered me that much.

[Hiroy]

Shonen in general does so much of the same old stuff, that the only ones I would actively read(that are ongoing) are One Piece, Magi and One Punch Man. Sket Dance too, but I'm still really early into it. Nothing is more boring than following a series every week with fans that about nothing but talk who's going to win some fight, who's going to fight who, who's strong according to comic's logic, and who gets more or less "badass" spotlight. It reminds me too much of my DBZ fanboy days.

I'd rather discuss things like character, the world, subtle little details the author hides in the background or behind dialogue, the adventure itself, and who is going to face inevitable danger. So while I do like some shonen, I'm not a huge fan of genre. So I tend to mix my readings up with senein(I am a Hero, Berserk) or a good ole clean oddball slice of life that has the same kind of feeling Calvin and Hobbies has.

[Sir Derp]

I hate it when the characters have a concept of love/relationships that a 6 year old would have, resulting in overly awkward scenes which I actually physically can't read.

First example which comes to mind would be from Beelzebub a couple of chapters ago: OMG they drank from the same bottle?! That's like kissing!

[valiantt]

@Thugcat:

Japan saving the world.

Japan winning a non-pingpong competition.

I'm not being racist or anything, but last time I saw a japanese or a japan team win a valuable competition it was the DMC 2002 ( Dj kentaro ).

Essentially it is a Japanese person writing about what they knows best "Japan". Unless an author is writing about a fantasy world they completely made up, they will draw upon information they know best (which, in this case, is obviously Japan). Also they are fully aware their demographics will be Japanese. STOP Unless there is a specific purpose/gimmick in NOT making their character(s) Japanese, then there is no purpose other than creating more work for themselves by doing additional research. (Or in most cases, making stuff up and making an ass of themselves to an international audience).

[Hallwacker]

There's too many things I hate in anime/manga than I can remember.

[Thugcat]

Unless there is a specific purpose/gimmick in NOT making their character(s) Japanese, then there is no purpose other than creating more work for themselves by doing additional research.

An author should be someone with a good culture. And that culture should not be limited to japan related things. That sounds pretty obvious to me.

Oda, Togashi, Araki… All the "best" manga author have pretty good worldwide culture.

[wolfwood]

@Thugcat:

An author should be someone with a good culture.

I don't see why that should be a criteria

[Gliblord]

@Hiroy:

Shonen in general does so much of the same old stuff, that the only ones I would actively read(that are ongoing) are One Piece, Magi and One Punch Man. Sket Dance too, but I'm still really early into it. Nothing is more boring than following a series every week with fans that about nothing but talk who's going to win some fight, who's going to fight who, who's strong according to comic's logic, and who gets more or less "badass" spotlight. It reminds me too much of my DBZ fanboy days.

I'd rather discuss things like character, the world, subtle little details the author hides in the background or behind dialogue, the adventure itself, and who is going to face inevitable danger. So while I do like some shonen, I'm not a huge fan of genre. So I tend to mix my readings up with senein(I am a Hero, Berserk) or a good ole clean oddball slice of life that has the same kind of feeling Calvin and Hobbies has.

You'd do well to add Shingeki to your list of ongoing shounens

[FolhaS]

@Thugcat:

Never said that the " every superhero is americain " isn't as dumb as what I stated before about japanese.

It's dumb too. I'm not american by the way.

In Japan they write things for a japanese audience, in America they write things for an american audience. So obviously the main characters and the settings are going to be japanese/american to appeal more to the readers/viewers. There are some exceptions like if it's an adaptation of a previously existing foreign work or some rare works with a foreign setting like Hellsing.
Of course they know a lot of that will go to other markets but their main, if not the only, concern is their home market.

You can't complain about One Piece having japanese language puns because it is meant to be read by japanese audience. Or the dozens of people in this thread who complain all those series that take place in highschool. You're freaking reading shounen manga, meant for japanese boys in highschool, of course a bunch of the stories will be around highschool. The authors don't care that an american or european guy doesn't relate to that because his highschool isn't like that or because he doesn't go to highschool anymore, they care about their audience which is mainly teenage boys in Japan.

@Sir:

I hate it when the characters have a concept of love/relationships that a 6 year old would have, resulting in overly awkward scenes which I actually physically can't read.

First example which comes to mind would be from Beelzebub a couple of chapters ago: OMG they drank from the same bottle?! That's like kissing!

That has more to do with japanese society costumes. For example, you can't kiss in public in Japan.
The notion of an indirect kiss being serious at that age probably has more to do with their relationship costumes than to those we relate.
Plus the characters are thugs who shelter themselves from the world unless fighting is involved, when they were reminded that they were sharing saliva with the opposite sex they got all stressed out.

[valiantt]

@Thugcat:

And that culture should not be limited to japan related things.

Why not? They are writing to an audience predominantly located in Japan. It is merely a perk (unless you are one of the top titles in Japan that can sell millions abroad) to have your work published internationally. There is an obvious reason why all "School" based comics are based on Japanese Schools or why the most chaotic events happen in Japan.

Oh and Oda/Togashi are fantasy based universes. It is easy to implement other cultures when you are taking parts of it/making it up.

[1PceXperience]

@Thugcat:

And that culture should not be limited to japan related things.

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In his defense, it seems important to note that series that do feature elements of outside cultures fare very well in ratings. I believe that it's due to One Piece's focus on Pirates (which is more of a western element than it is an eastern one) that has contributed to the series popularity because it was so "new" and "refreshing".

Not to mention that here in the States, a lot of people love anime BECAUSE it displays elements of a foreign culture. So while mangaka should feel free to fashion all things Japanese in their series, stepping out of cultural bounds is something that should be encouraged.

Matt Damon is married. Old school musicals are better than today's.

[ibrahim2712]

Well in the end it's their choice.

[Thugcat]

Well. I was not specially talking about cultural reference. Name or reference dropping was not my full point.

I was talking more about a worldwide "culture of things". Maybe the best word for this is "awareness" ?

English is not my first language, so let's take a stupid example :

You can't make a manga like Death note without being aware of the problem of morality caused by "death sentance" around the world.

I strongly believe that the more awareness you have, the more versatile and the more open minded you can be. And to me, that seems pretty important to make a story interesting and worth reading.

I did not mean to say that the more "cultivate" you are, the better your work will be. Most genious ( and not only genious author ) have droped school early in their life. And that did not prevent them to be intelligent and talented. One Piece is full of cultural reference and you won't learn some deep shit from reading it thanks to the cultural references.
But I think it is because Oda is a versatile guy and an open minded guy ( at least I think he is ) that his work is a worldwide success.

I do not know if he's that cultivate, but at least we can say safely that he's intersted in a lot of things. And not things only related to japan.

[Lorce]

Things I definitely get sick of seeing in mangas/anime:

• Girl beating up main character (like she's so strong and all) but in the end she needs saving from main character… (Sakura, you know I'm talking to you) I mean, after the main character saves your ass so many times, you go and be ungrateful by acting like a bitch? Bitch, Shut up.

• Kinda the same point, but girl characters that get angry too quickly... or more annoyingly, the boy characters being so scared by them... like they can really do that much (no sexism intended)

• Sports mangas going too far with their phrasings like "We will win even if it kills us" or "We won't let them score even if we die"... it's just a sport man, relax (Slam Dunk not included but mainly Kurokos Basket here -.- getting kinda old now)

• Main characters that 'Grow' unnaturally at a inhuman speed in strength/skill... (Kurokos Baset again)

• The mystery talk... you know "HE/SHE won't like this" or "I'm sure HE/SHE will be unhappy to hear that"... and then after we find out who HE/SHE is they casually mention their names all the time -.-

• Characters speaking in third-person... get out of your own 'royal' arse your wannabe 'highness' sheesh

• Characters that say the SAME WORD AFTER EACH SENTENCE!!! It's old and gets on my nerves... one of many examples is obviously.... BELIEVE IT!!

• Mystery sibling appearing after 100 chapters of getting to know the main character…

• Character stopping 2 other characters in the middle of the fight by stopping BOTH their attacks one handed... happens too much...

• Characters appearing out of nowhere even though the characters in the manga should have been able to see them coming a long time ago...

• Main character being "The only one who could save us now" -.-

• Dead people coming back to life...

• Bad guys talking too much or explaining their evil plan to the near death hero so he can take it to his grave... if he really thinks he's gonna kill him, he's just wasting his breath on a soon to be corpse -.- which never happens btw (which is why Scar from Lion King is such a Don... doesn't even explain shit, just says "Long live the King" and throws that MoFo down with no chance for him to talk... [which was of course sad, but come now, it's a cartoon])

• Characters having to shout out their attacks before doing them… you can do them silently as well I'm sure, and tbh this effects Naruto the most, given that they're Ninjas and should be silent killers...

• Eye powers.

• Characters with unnatural hair colours... Green, white, pink... what's wrong with black hair man D:

• Bullies (just cos they make me sad to see those poor weak characters being picked on)

• Cool looking characters with a secret past that they don't want to share with anyone (Sasuke)

• A seemingly real life story that could actually make sense ending up having some stupid 'spirit' based move inserted, turning it unrealistic (kinda looking at Tough here, cos it was all cool with their martial arts style, but then that spirit attack thingy just went a bit too far :/)

• Ditzy girl characters with huge knockers... not like they don't exist in real life, but they are used too many times

• High school mangas in general, but then that 'there's a new student coming to join us today' 'i hope she's a cute girl' blah blah blah and most the time she is and ends up sitting next to the main character...

• Characters surviving explosions... they are hot dam firey KABOOM explosions but get treated like a soap bubble...

• Main characters being stupid (which works okay with Luffy for me, but it happens alot in other mangas, which is why Death Note and Gambler Fish seemed like such a change of pace for once...)

• Not really a in manga flaw, but potentially good mangas being cut short or ending weirdly... I know it could be because of bad funding, but they should take the funding of the shitty ones then... some to name would be: Sensei No Bulge (I liked the idea of aliens and the countless enemies they cud've faced), Takamagahara (seriously? it had so much potential and was kinda unique with its powers but the ending was so abrupt and shit), Psyren and more

• And so many more that have been named before or I can't think of at the moment

Ahhh I actually feel kinda relieved having let all that out... this is like going to a psychiatrist :D

[King Cannon]

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[ibrahim2712]

Eye Powers? You must hate Naruto lmaoo

[valiantt]

@Thugcat:

But I think it is because Oda is a versatile guy and an open minded guy ( at least I think he is ) that his work is a worldwide success.

Death Note is a good example of how it could be addressed in a global scale, BUT the author decided to set it in Japan. The reason why it was set there is because of the author having the strongest grasp of Japan (culture, locale, so on). The author still addressed the issues death sentences effectively. It is not necessary; nor does it make you a better writer to acknowledge the world outside of Japan. It just only shows that you have a broader knowledge. You cannot penalize an author for having a limited knowledge beyond the scope of Japan. They are simply writing on topics they enjoy most (or at least have the most familiarity with).

I agree with you that Oda is versatile (and open minded I suppose), but that is not what makes him a global success. He is a global success because of his strong narrative, excellent art, and obvious publicity by Viz and anime…so on. If this were the case, (and this will address 1pceExperience's post), explain how series such as Naruto/Bleach (ugh), Melancholy of Haruhi, Love Hina, and other Japan-centric works have gotten so popular/recognized in the West? It is obviously not because the authors' have broad, global understandings of the world, but for different reasons. In fact, it is hard to say that the "globally aware" works seem to gather better recognition than the Japan-centric ones. It seems that the Japan-centric ones are more recognized than the former.

[Archie Griffs]

@Lorce:

Things I definitely get sick of seeing in mangas/anime:

You must hate a lot of mangas/animes, that's a very list. A lot I do agree with though, and it's okay, some are way too repetitive. If I were filled with helium right now, I think that list would become funny rather than depressing to have so many repetitive things pointed out.

As for something I especially hate:

Unexplained powers/poorly explained powers, or sudden bursts of strength that seem unreasonably too convenient at the time they release it. I can live with Dragonball Z (but it certainly has this problem), and gear second in OP is explained well. Sometimes though, there's just too many comebacks or powerups in a single fight and it gets ridiculous.

[Katzztar]

About the power ups: What I hate about them is when a certain power is suppose to be unique and that is what certain support characters stand out, then BAM! this guy and that guy , thier minion and his cousin has same or similar powers. Remember when the Hyugas and Uchihas were suppose to be unique, so unique the names of their clans demanded respect (or at least recognition) of other villages? Not anyomre chums. Worse is when I hear fans ask or say "Naruto will/did get the Rinagain!" (yeah I misspelled it )
So much for unique or MC making his way with his own powers:ermm:

Not including Blackbeard in that. A villian that steals powers (thats itself is a classic plot- good or bad, its a classic trick) from others to get stronger is different than saying "Hey lets make the MC stronger by giving him (or copy) powers of a different character! There's no need for him to go through training (or the trainings worthless) when thats done"

[Lorce]

@ibrahim2712:

Eye Powers? You must hate Naruto lmaoo

Well yeah now I do… I actually used to be crazy about it before Shipuuden but then things just got too repetitive... but I meant eye powers in general now, cos so many mangas have something to do with eyes, even if it's not a power but unique eyes like one is red,or they turn blue or stuff like that and it's just used too much... choose a different body part for once please like errrr the pinky toe! :p

You must hate a lot of mangas/animes, that's a very list. A lot I do agree with though, and it's okay, some are way too repetitive. If I were filled with helium right now, I think that list would become funny rather than depressing to have so many repetitive things pointed out.

Yeah well I guess nowadays some mangas just find it so hard to be original :/ that's why I really liked mangas like Sensei No Bulge or Takamagahara which were ended so early :/ but there's still hope in some new one like One Punch Man for obvious reasons and I guess AssClass is good for comic relief but One Piece is my top atm, with HxH of course :p then there are some which I have just bookmarked for later because I'm not sure if I wanna read them or not but now that I think about it, even with my huge critic list, I actually read ALOT of mangas… Vagabond, Tough, The Breaker, Oroborous, Hammer Session, Gambler Fish, Green Blood, ReMember, Ganz, Buster Keel... the list goes on :p

[Tsukishima]

@Lorce:

Things I definitely get sick of seeing in mangas/anime:

• Sports mangas going too far with their phrasings like "We will win even if it kills us" or "We won't let them score even if we die"… it's just a sport man, relax (Slam Dunk not included but mainly Kurokos Basket here -.- getting kinda old now)

• The mystery talk... you know "HE/SHE won't like this" or "I'm sure HE/SHE will be unhappy to hear that"... and then after we find out who HE/SHE is they casually mention their names all the time -.-

• Mystery sibling appearing after 100 chapters of getting to know the main character...

• Character stopping 2 other characters in the middle of the fight by stopping BOTH their attacks one handed... happens too much...

• Characters appearing out of nowhere even though the characters in the manga should have been able to see them coming a long time ago...

• Main character being "The only one who could save us now" -.-

• Dead people coming back to life...

• A seemingly real life story that could actually make sense ending up having some stupid 'spirit' based move inserted, turning it unrealistic (kinda looking at Tough here, cos it was all cool with their martial arts style, but then that spirit attack thingy just went a bit too far :/)

• High school mangas in general, but then that 'there's a new student coming to join us today' 'i hope she's a cute girl' blah blah blah and most the time she is and ends up sitting next to the main character...

• Characters surviving explosions... they are hot dam firey KABOOM explosions but get treated like a soap bubble...

Those things are particularly annoying, and they happen all the time.

[Archie Griffs]

@Lorce:

Well yeah now I do… I actually used to be crazy about it before Shipuuden but then things just got too repetitive... but I meant eye powers in general now, cos so many mangas have something to do with eyes, even if it's not a power but unique eyes like one is red,or they turn blue or stuff like that and it's just used too much... choose a different body part for once please like errrr the pinky toe! :p

Yeah well I guess nowadays some mangas just find it so hard to be original :/ that's why I really liked mangas like Sensei No Bulge or Takamagahara which were ended so early :/ but there's still hope in some new one like One Punch Man for obvious reasons and I guess AssClass is good for comic relief but One Piece is my top atm, with HxH of course :p then there are some which I have just bookmarked for later because I'm not sure if I wanna read them or not but now that I think about it, even with my huge critic list, I actually read ALOT of mangas... Vagabond, Tough, The Breaker, Oroborous, Hammer Session, Gambler Fish, Green Blood, ReMember, Ganz, Buster Keel... the list goes on :p

Mangas should try and stay original, I agree, and I try not to let that get in the way of how I feel about it, but if it's the same old same old, it does get very annoying. That's part of why I spend most my time on the same ones like One Piece (will always be my favorite), DBZ, Naruto (though I know it will get old fast), and Bleach. After I finish DBZ I might throw in some newer ones I haven't tried before it's kind of hard to break away from my cycle, and I go into withdrawal if I don't go through all of One Piece's anime every 6 months. I need to shake things up, they're getting to static, I'm certainly up in the air for new mangas/animes.

[Lorce]

Mangas should try and stay original, I agree, and I try not to let that get in the way of how I feel about it, but if it's the same old same old, it does get very annoying. That's part of why I spend most my time on the same ones like One Piece (will always be my favorite), DBZ, Naruto (though I know it will get old fast), and Bleach. After I finish DBZ I might throw in some newer ones I haven't tried before it's kind of hard to break away from my cycle, and I go into withdrawal if I don't go through all of One Piece's anime every 6 months. I need to shake things up, they're getting to static, I'm certainly up in the air for new mangas/animes.

Seeing this that must mean you only ever watched/read those mangas… Did I understand that right? :p

Well if you're interested in new mangas, my list from before gives you enough options, and since you saw how big my list of dislikes was, I would only recommend mangas that are above standard and original as can be ;D try some :) (I hope I don't look like I'm blowing my own horn here :p)

You know just to show you some of the ones I read: Vagabond, One Punch Man, Hungry Joker, Tough, The Breaker, Oroborous, Hammer Session, Gambler Fish, Green Blood, ReMember, Ganz (mature), Buster Keel, Suicide Island, Sun Ken Rock (mature) and some more, but these are top of my head best ones I know :)

[Aohige_AP]

@Lorce:

Well yeah now I do… I actually used to be crazy about it before Shipuuden but then things just got too repetitive... but I meant eye powers in general now, cos so many mangas have something to do with eyes, even if it's not a power but unique eyes like one is red,or they turn blue or stuff like that and it's just used too much... choose a different body part for once please like errrr the pinky toe! :p

Yeah well I guess nowadays some mangas just find it so hard to be original :/ that's why I really liked mangas like Sensei No Bulge or Takamagahara which were ended so early :/ but there's still hope in some new one like One Punch Man for obvious reasons and I guess AssClass is good for comic relief but One Piece is my top atm, with HxH of course :p then there are some which I have just bookmarked for later because I'm not sure if I wanna read them or not but now that I think about it, even with my huge critic list, I actually read ALOT of mangas... Vagabond, Tough, The Breaker, Oroborous, Hammer Session, Gambler Fish, Green Blood, ReMember, Ganz, Buster Keel... the list goes on :p

@Archie:

Mangas should try and stay original, I agree, and I try not to let that get in the way of how I feel about it, but if it's the same old same old, it does get very annoying. That's part of why I spend most my time on the same ones like One Piece (will always be my favorite), DBZ, Naruto (though I know it will get old fast), and Bleach. After I finish DBZ I might throw in some newer ones I haven't tried before it's kind of hard to break away from my cycle, and I go into withdrawal if I don't go through all of One Piece's anime every 6 months. I need to shake things up, they're getting to static, I'm certainly up in the air for new mangas/animes.

You guys realize there's new volumes of over 1000 titles being released every month in Japan, right?
You may want to venture away from "big popular shounen manga", because Japan is NEVER in lack of variety and originality.

Did you know there's a popular series running in Sunday about CATTLE FARMING?
Did you know there's a popular manga running in Monthly Big Comic Spirits where entire manga is composed of nothing but "images of a girl eating delicious food"?
Did you know there's a popular manga about Jesus Christ and Buddha living in an apartment in Japan as young, eccentric hipsters?
Did you know there's a popular manga about conspiracies of TV medium, ties with Yakuza, and a beautiful news caster protagonist being the mastermind behind it all?
Did you know there's a long running popular manga about a vigilante swindler who only swindle other professional swindlers, exacting revenge and justice on them?

Guys, the list can go on for hundreds of lines. And I'm not even exaggerating.
These are just the current manga, if I include the last fifty years of manga, the list would be counted in thousands.

Every single time I see someone complaining about lack of variety, it's the same focus on "but but but it's not running in Jump! So it must not exist!"
Blame the English speaking fan communities for feverishly only focusing on "popular big shounen titles", neglecting vast majority of the market out there.

[Haros]

@Aohige_AP:

Every single time I see someone complaining about lack of variety, it's the same people who only focus on "but but but it's not running in Jump! So it must not exist!"
Blame your own English speaking communities for feverishly only focusing on "popular big shounen titles", neglecting vast majority of the market out there.

more like the mangas that are presented in English are the ones that get the attention of the translators and the ppl doing the scanlation. But it all has to start with a raw.l its something easier said that done if you have no access to raw mangas. the focus is on jump because its the one thats easier to get access to because of the established popular series.
if you want to blame someone blame them for not learning japanese not the community :). The community is contributing something even if its the most known they dont . So get your lazy asses and start giving somehing back
I am more of the opinion that if you havent contributed something you have no right to complain or demand because every manga required time and efford

[Lorce]

Wow that's some funky ideas lol Jesus and Buddha? that had me laughing… sure that's original... but maybe a little too original? though it is true that we don't know ALL those varieties of mangas so I agree we shouldn't complain too much, but it's still hard finding mangas that get you hooked you know?

(and Aohige, I think I know which one you're talking about when you say that vigilant swindler lol not sure but it sounds like Usogui, but I think I'm wrong -.-; ) [h=1][/h]

[Aohige_AP]

@Lorce:

Wow that's some funky ideas lol Jesus and Buddha? that had me laughing… sure that's original... but maybe a little too original? though it is true that we don't know ALL those varieties of mangas so I agree we shouldn't complain too much, but it's still hard finding mangas that get you hooked you know?

(and Aohige, I think I know which one you're talking about when you say that vigilant swindler lol not sure but it sounds like Usogui, but I think I'm wrong -.-; )

Usogui is a good one too, it's about a liar who gambles with lies.
But the one I'm talking about is Kurosagi, the Black Swindler.

I read TONS of manga, past and present. I love Big Comic Spirits, Evening/Afternoon, and many other magazines with creative manga running in them. I'm always dissapointed how vast majority of the titles I like have no exposure outside of Japan, even ones that are best-sellers in Japan. Do we really need half a dozen scanlation groups working on Naruto and One Piece? Especially when there's official English releases already? I have a feeling a lot of the ad-driven sites are greedily looking for money with pirated content instead of being actually interested and invested in the fandom.

[valiantt]

In case anyone is interested in what this manga on Jesus and Buddha is:
http://mangafox.me/manga/saint_oniisan/

The fact that a bunch of girls mistook Jesus as Johnny Deep is hilariously…Japanese. Happens in real life.

[Lorce]

Yeah the problem is just that all those other magazines aren't all as successful as Shonen Jump…. which makes some good potential mangas end up ending early due to financial circumstances etc... I mean there are TONS of great mangas, even manwahs (such as Sun Ken Rock) but they just don't get as much publicity as Shonen Jump mangas do :/

[Aohige_AP]

@Lorce:

Yeah the problem is just that all those other magazines aren't all as successful as Shonen Jump…. which makes some good potential mangas end up ending early due to financial circumstances etc... I mean there are TONS of great mangas, even manwahs (such as Sun Ken Rock) but they just don't get as much publicity as Shonen Jump mangas do :/

Yes, BUT. Fan scanlations are not publishers.
There's no strong reason to "only jump on the popular titles" in droves other than if sleazy profitting from piracy is involved.
Yeah. You know who I'm talking about..

[Hiroy]

You know, this sort of reminds me of people that don't really think other comics exist outside the "cape" genre from DC/Marvel. Which is kind of a shame.