Though I wouldn't like this to happen, I think it might be Shanks. Law's fascination with Luffy's straw hat on Amazon Lily before the timeskip might have been a foreshadowing to that…but that's just speculation.
Chapter 667: Cool Fight
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But that would mean that the SH and some of the Fishman also got something of that drug? Dunno if they somewhere said it tasted weird.
Maybe they make small portion of regular candy and all other "special"
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I read through the post and I don't think anybody mentioned this, but TheRainMonster @ reddit gave a cool explanation as to how Zoro/Sanjmi/Brooke are alive
Scotch & Rocks shoot these KYP bullets that are supposed to make them drunk, and I guess they think they can just alcohol poison everybody that takes the bullets to death. Zoro and Nami have well established alcohol tolerances, meaning that they'll simply wake up soon, unharmed.. but wasted.
And of course, alcohol goes right through Brooke :D
Edited to Add: Rock is the one who got hit with the reflected bullets. He isn't wearing a gas mask and gets back up, presumably because his tolerance to alcohol is very high (aligns with his name). Scotch, however wears a mask (see krule274's explanation), which would mean his tolerance is low and needs protection from the gas.
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LMAO!
This episode was hilarious!!!!
Franky lol man that guy! lol
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Really law? Talking proposal with Luffy?
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Enjoyed the chapter as always! There were some hilarious moments although the 'cool' puns got a little tired (and thats coming from someone who loves puns), I was disappointed to see the yeti bros. go down in quite an easy fashion but I guess they needed to be fodderised to a certain extent so Law could have his 'badass' moment.
My bet for the Yonko in question is BM. Law's a smart fellow who will no doubt have noticed the friendship between Shanks and Luffy so hell know not to go for shanks, Blackbeard fells too early in the story and Kaido's coming from nowhere. Back to Shanks, Law might see potential in his relationship with Luffy meaning that Law having seen Shanks' interjection in the war might lead him to think that should things go awry against BM Shanks might pop round to see his old friend Luffy (I dont think that this is gonna happen but Law might be thinking it).
I doubt that Luffy's gonna accept Law's offer right away anyway, he'll probably say no at first before accepting at the end of the arc.
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But that would mean that the SH and some of the Fishman also got something of that drug? Dunno if they somewhere said it tasted weird.
None of them said it tasted strange, in fact, Luffy was raving over it and saying how good it was.
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Why do people say the Yonkou is Shanks? First off, it's too early. Second, why the heck would they introduce Big Mam so early without touching about her in this arc? Third, candies anybody? Big Mam is so addicted to sweets, Law might be thinking of using those candies being fed to the children, though it can also be that what makes Big Mam strong is somewhere in the concoction used in the sweets.
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Amazing chapter, really liking this Arc so far, but i have one question… Doesn't Law wanting to ally with someone else to take down Big Mom (if it is her he is talking about) at the same time that Luffy declared war with Big Mom, seem to easy and convenient to be the real plot? I really want to see some proper reasons for this situation, 'cause ''it was just a coincidence'', seems too bad and easy of a story plot to be Oda...
Oda's used that kind of plot before. Lufy just happened to stop in the town where Zoro was at the beginning and prevent Helmeppo's execution of Zoro, the Straw Hat Pirates just happened to be in Usopp's hometown when the Black Cat Pirates were going to attack, when Crocodile was just about to lay the final plans in his takeover of Alabasta, when Enel was just about to destroy all of Skypiea, when the New Fishman Pirates were going to launch their coup. When you look at it, it seems that a lot of plots revolve at Luffy and the others arriving there on just the right day that things are going down and being a day late would prevent them from being involved or in other words it was just coincidence a lot of times. I don't see any difference.
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I read through the post and I don't think anybody mentioned this, but TheRainMonster @ reddit gave a cool explanation as to how Zoro/Sanjmi/Brooke are alive
Scotch & Rocks shoot these KYP bullets that are supposed to make them drunk, and I guess they think they can just alcohol poison everybody that takes the bullets to death. Zoro and Nami have well established alcohol tolerances, meaning that they'll simply wake up soon, unharmed.. but wasted.
And of course, alcohol goes right through Brooke :D
Ah and that is the funny thing =Alcohol tolerance is a physical effect
While Sanji doesn't have same tolerance as Zoro, he is in Nami's body so he would get that …"benefit" ...of her system used to high alcohol levels in the system.
It could still affect Brook, the sleeping gas on the Sunny did. Brook also still eats, drinks, and poops. So it could still affect him -
After some think Luffy is going to say yes…... it makes sense why Law switched Chopper, Sanji, Franky, and Nami's bodies now I bet he will bribe Luffy with that.
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Anyway… I still don't like the idea of Luffy + supernova x vs Big Mom or anyone else. Maybe an alliance to fight the big crews but Luffy, if he ever want to reach that strenght, should fight them alone someday
Well I love the idea. It's obvious that Luffy will make a great number of alliances before the final war, so this one with Law would make a perfect start to it.
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Oda's used that kind of plot before. Lufy just happened to stop in the town where Zoro was at the beginning and prevent Helmeppo's execution of Zoro, the Straw Hat Pirates just happened to be in Usopp's hometown when the Black Cat Pirates were going to attack, when Crocodile was just about to lay the final plans in his takeover of Alabasta, when Enel was just about to destroy all of Skypiea, when the New Fishman Pirates were going to launch their coup. When you look at it, it seems that a lot of plots revolve at Luffy and the others arriving there on just the right day that things are going down and being a day late would prevent them from being involved or in other words it was just coincidence a lot of times. I don't see any difference.
Yeah you are right, i am over thinking about it…
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My theorie is pure logic: Law is searching for some kind of candy or meal who can make Big Mam weak and then attack her. The problem with Big Mom is her fruit and body, she can support all kind of poisons and her weak point are candies…and her nature/wood fruit!! :P There are a lot of pirates who follow her, and it's too hard to approach her with a litlle crew. Law strategy is to take down every Yonkou and create chaos in the New World so he can find One Piece while other pirates are focusing on taking the places of the Yonkou. He made researches of what are the weak points of the Yonkous -he used the Shichibukai title to obtain information about the strongest pirates, their fruits etc.. and the government cant interfere- and knows that the only way to approach 3 of the 4 Yonkous (Shanks, BB and Big Mom) are with Luffy. Shanks because he's his friend, BB because he killed Ace, and Big Mom (he will know that after the candy problems in fisherman island).
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Counter Shock…was it Haki? Seemed like it to me.
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I read through the post and I don't think anybody mentioned this, but TheRainMonster @ reddit gave a cool explanation as to how Zoro/Sanjmi/Brooke are alive
Scotch & Rocks shoot these KYP bullets that are supposed to make them drunk, and I guess they think they can just alcohol poison everybody that takes the bullets to death. Zoro and Nami have well established alcohol tolerances, meaning that they'll simply wake up soon, unharmed.. but wasted.
And of course, alcohol goes right through Brooke :D
Edited to Add: Rock is the one who got hit with the reflected bullets. He isn't wearing a gas mask and gets back up, presumably because his tolerance to alcohol is very high (aligns with his name). Scotch, however wears a mask (see krule274's explanation), which would mean his tolerance is low and needs protection from the gas.
I'm pretty sure Rock shot Luffy with explosive bullets, not aware that they could be bounced back to him double fold. THEN, he switched to KYP bullets, to make him drunk in an instant; NOT to "drunk him to death", but to make him drunk enough so that he can't dodge that glacier. He literally says "We won't let you dodge that glacier!".
I greatly enjoyed this chapter, but I'll confess I needed a second read. The first time I thought it was kinda messy, but the second read proved to be exponentially more satisfying, and it left a big smile on my face. The fight felt much, much better, and I appreciated the art much more.
Man, that spread of Law cutting Scotch in two is. . .damn. Just DAMN.
Also, some of you guys really have good eyesight: I didn't catch Franky doing the Super pose in Monster Point, and Scotch does have a gas mask on.
Yep, Franky going berserk absurdly fast won the chapter. Also, he got his spotlight with that Glacier Smash. In your face.
The Law revelation at the end has been discussed to death, so I won't dwell in it.
Finally, I don't think we've seen the last of the Yeti Cool Bros. We still don't even know their faces. . .
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So luffy's got beef with big mom
kid took down two of her pirate ships
and law now wants to take down a yonkou
did anyone else immediately thought of this scene
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v52/c504/16.html
c'mon this is so gonna be, rivals unite again scene
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So luffy's got beef with big mom
kid took down two of her pirate ships
and law now wants to take down a yonkou
did anyone else immediately thought of this scene
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v52/c504/16.html
c'mon this is so gonna be, rivals unite again scene
rivals unite again or rivals beating each other to see who will beat big mom?
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yes yes yes
wonderful chapter !
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Counter Shock…was it Haki? Seemed like it to me.
Haki doesn't slice things in half. It was his power.
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Law's power is so damn hax. Did he even create a room when he cut one of the Yeti brothers in half? And what the hell was 'Counter Shock'? Looked like an electric impact dial, must be haki cause I don't see how that fits in with the whole Operation Fruit thing…
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It's been a while since I've found the time to do this, and these have been good chapters.
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Iva on the cover. It doesn't seem like there are many people left to get to, but Iva increases the likelihood of a bunch of other people, like Mihawk for example. So I really have no clue how much more is left of this cover story.
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Oda's done a really good job of making Ceasar out to be a major dick, but I don't really get the feeling that he's that much of a threat. Most of the tension in this arc has been pretty short lived so far.
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It's so in character for Franky to just immediately pop a rumble ball like that and go berserk. It made what would have otherwise been a fairly boring fight hilarious. I suppose the fact that Luffy treated Franky as the biggest threat in that fight says a lot about how overconfident Ceasar and the Cool brothers are. Oda is having a lot of fun with this body switch stuff. It's hilarious how different he's making his characters seem by changing their personalities. Franky inside Chopper is a total win, but I think Tashigi inside Smoker still kills me those most, though. This is probably the best thing about Law.
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I really like the upgrade of Luffy aiming his balloon defense and having it double as offense. Even though he sort of did it once at the beginning of the series with Buggy, it was never really a focus, especially with multiple bullets. The targeting gag is nice, but I'm not so sure about the beep sfx.
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Despite being told to eliminate Luffy, Scotch runs away after he sees Lock get totally wrecked. Why did Ceasar think these guys would be not only good enough, but overdoing it? I guess he gives Law a chance to show off and help out again. Speaking of which, Law is coming across as being ridiculously strong, and his fruit seems pretty freaking powerful on top of it. And it seems like he fought this time without putting his room up, and I'm not entirely sure what to make of that. I think it's about time we learn the name of his sword, since it seems to be in the 12 class. I also wonder what this "important key" is, but I don't really have any ideas.
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With Law's proposition, this is starting to feel like the beginning of the New World's version of a Baroque Works arc, to me. Go through some shorter island arcs with villains who are outclassed while building up to the first major fight against the resident group of powerhouses. Assuming this is leading into a war against Big Mom, which I am, then it's really turning into quite the carnival. Law, Kid, Jinbe, and all their crews as a starting point. Then we also have Smoker and the Marines, along with possibly more of a mess with this Joker guy. Add in a few more third parties with another small island or two, and set it all up on an island that Big Mom is trying to destroy and it'd really be something. I suppose that means that Law is Vivi, though… oh well, sorry Law fans. :ninja:
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I don't find it too unusual that Law took out Scotch so fast, since he essentially stabbed him in the back with a cheap shot. However, Counter Shock was surprising and does seem a lot like a Haki technique.
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Or he just has a hidden defibrillator, being a doctor and all.
A defibrillator cranked up to 11. -
I suppose that means that Law is Vivi, though… oh well, sorry Law fans. :ninja:
No, Kinemon is Vivi, and the Straw Hats will have to save the land of Wano.
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Maybe it's possible for Law to manipulate his room like Whitebeard and apply it to his weapon thereby allowing him to slash Scotch in half (without having to put him in a room). As for his counter shock, maybe it was some sort of shambles-like technique and he was able to transfer electricity from somewhere. Either way, hope it's explained soon.
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Was Elephant Gun SUPPOSED to be overkill? Because that shit took out an entire Kraken,
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Haki doesn't slice things in half. It was his power.
Counter Shock wasn't him slicing him in half, it was the attack he used afterwards.
Another great, interesting chapter. Maybe I'm the only one, but I feel like this is one of the few times in the series where I have no idea how Luffy's going to react to the proposition.
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I lol'd with Franky transforming so fast, and "Iron Man" as well
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Law's powers are getting a little ridiculous.
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Law's powers are getting a little ridiculous.
Yeah, this is kind of like when Kuma's powers were shown, but not accurately explained.
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If it is Shanks then Luffy and Law are set up to fight there and then, which if they do and Luffy wins then the news of the Strawhats returns would be publicised like crazy and would set up power levels quite nicely for the inevitable luffy vs big mam. But I hope Luffy and Law will team up because well…....... it would just be really cool
I hope they team up also. But Luffy (and I would guess Kid is more like Luffy in this respect) doesn't seem like he'd team up just to make something easier, and he'd never become a Shichibukai like Law did, regardless of the reasons. So regardless of the circumstances I don't see Luffy teaming up, EXCEPT he owes Law his life. Luffy beating Law wouldn't mean much for power levels vs Big Mam. I mean she is around Shanks level someone who easily stopped Akainu (who was able to go toe to toe with an injured Whitebeard). Luffy beating Law wouldn't even put him at admiral level considering Law was only able to catch Smoker off guard when he stole his heart. Still like you said a Luffy, Law tag team would be cool. Also considering SA was one of my favorite arcs, Luffy/Law/Kid vs Big Mam would be a dream for me. Depending on what Law's key is to take down this Yonkou, to stand a chance they'd all need each other and their crews. I could also see Law saying it is Shanks (just because it'd be a big surprise) or Big Mam just because that's what we've been lead up to (Blackbeard is too strong and dangerous atm, Kaidou has no reason to be brought up). Still lots of questions, who the Yonkou is important, but what the key is and how CC fits into plan, where the hell is Law's crew, and what does he want to get back? Can't wait til next week's chapter.
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Yeah, this is kind of like when Kuma's powers were shown, but not accurately explained.
I hope we get some insight into Law's powers soon.Kuma's powers were a little different, even at the start.
They had one basic function and nothing else.But yeah, I guess we'll get a suitable explanation for Law eventually.
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The only Yonkou that Luffy would agree to form an alliance with Law is Big Mom. Because she's the one Luffy wants to ass-kick. If its any other Yonkou, he will never say yes. Why? Because that's not Luffy's goal, to defeat other pirates for no reason. But even if its Big Mom, I'm not sure he'll say yes because the idea of Luffy forming an alliance with another pirate seems like out of his character IMO. He always wants to defeat someone by himself. On the other hand, Nami being there would be key. I can imagine Luffy saying no to the proposal and Nami making that typical angry face and tries hard to convince Luffy otherwise.
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because the idea of Luffy forming an alliance with another pirate seems like out of his character IMO. He always wants to defeat someone by himself.
Not true.
Think about the Franky Family and the Impel Down break-out gang.
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I read through the post and I don't think anybody mentioned this, but TheRainMonster @ reddit gave a cool explanation as to how Zoro/Sanjmi/Brooke are alive
Scotch & Rocks shoot these KYP bullets that are supposed to make them drunk, and I guess they think they can just alcohol poison everybody that takes the bullets to death. Zoro and Nami have well established alcohol tolerances, meaning that they'll simply wake up soon, unharmed.. but wasted.
And of course, alcohol goes right through Brooke :D
Edited to Add: Rock is the one who got hit with the reflected bullets. He isn't wearing a gas mask and gets back up, presumably because his tolerance to alcohol is very high (aligns with his name). Scotch, however wears a mask (see krule274's explanation), which would mean his tolerance is low and needs protection from the gas.
Did any of the translation imply that those KYP bullets are all they use?
I was under impression that they were just shooting explosive bullets (cannonballs at that size, really), and the KYPs were supposed to be shot when the glacier was falling.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
@krule274:
None of them said it tasted strange, in fact, Luffy was raving over it and saying how good it was.
Are people STILL going on about the candy on fishman island being the same as Caesars?
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I think Counter Shock is just like a Defibrillator
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Couple translation questions, sorry if these have been answered.
When the YCBs say "cool" are they saying that in English or in Japanese?
Also the same question for "Thank You Fire"
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Pretty good chapter, though I thought there was going to be a bit more to the Brothers then that. Oh well.
Also, I think Law is going to bite off more then he can chew, but we will see.
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Good chapter, but Law seems to act so…...random.
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@Mark:
I think Counter Shock is just like a Defibrillator
Counter shock is Rokuougan :D
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I expect another hint at least from Law about what has happened to him in the last two years. It appears he has made a very sober assessment of his chances in the New World and is using his Schchibukai status like many others for personal gain. Would not be surprised right now to hear if he has had his crew wiped out or taken by a Yonkou and he has been reflecting constantly on what happened.
Also I don't think he ever intended to match up with Clown, more just happened to find him and just dealt with it.
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Compared to Luffy Law is a coward. He hides at this island. Luffy already declared war to big mom, on his own.
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War with yonkou whitebeard took full strength of marine forces, admirals, vice admirals, sengoku, garp, thousands of them, PLUS royal shichibukai.
If Luffy is going to fight yonkou big mam with a crew of 10, adding a shichi who's clearly not admiral level wouldn't hurt, I guess.
If Luffy defeats yonkou big mam on his own then you might as well suggest he can fight on par with marine full force, which is not possible.
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Typical One Piece chapter. In other words fuckin' gorgeous. Now just to wait for C3's translation and it will be even better.
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Compared to Luffy Law is a coward. He hides at this island. Luffy already declared war to big mom, on his own.
Nope, Law is a realist, not a coward. Nor is he hiding, he is looking for something.
Also, when Luffy finally fight Big Mom, he will not be alone, rest of his crew will be there to fight Big Mom's crew. Right now, we don't see Law's crew. Add their absence with Law making a comment that he wants back too, we can assume they are not simply hiding but are being kept away from Law.
Law is alone right now with no crew.
Since you've compared him to Luffy lets go with that. Lets imagine that some theories put forth here are correct, Law's crew was taken by a yonkou and he wants them back. That would be comparable to when Luffy wanted to save Ace. Luffy could not do that alone no matter how hard he tried. Luffy accepted the help of others in Impel Down and fought beside Whitebeard & allies at Marineford War. Luffy had to learn the hard way from those experiences that to go against someone so strong without backup to take care of the middlemen is suicide.
Unlike Luffy, Law actually thinks about situations and plans for the future instead of just going with the flow as Luffy tends to do. That does not make make him a coward, it makes him smart.
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Luffy won't accept the offer. It is one thing to temporary ally with a Shichibukai (Hancock, Jinbe, Crocodile) to achieve a minor goal, but taking down a Yonkou seems to cross the line. He wants to be the Pirate King after all, allying his way up wouldn't fit his personality (at least I don't think it would suit him).
As to who the Yonkou is, Big Bum seems to be the best bet, but wouldn't that be a little too obvious?
Anyway, go Traffy go.
Saving Ace is a minor goal?:wassat:
If anything thats about 1000000x more major thEn defeating a Yonkou.
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@Massimo:
How is continually challenging the Yonkou makes you survive in NW??
I'm guessing its the same as surviving in prison. Become someone's bitch or get a posse for yourself and intimidate others.
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Saving Ace is a minor goal?:wassat:
Obviously, saving Ace was important to him, but the motivation was totally different.
He accepted all the support because he simply had no choice. Without the help from even his greatest enemies (Crocodile) he would have had no chance to even get to Ace. There was a lot of pride to swallow, but he did it for his brother and not for himselve. Marine Ford was a detour, as Oda put it. Important for Luffy, important for the story, but it didn't affect the major goals of the main characters. Of course, in the end it greatly affected Luffy's personal growth, but that wasn't the goal.
However, taking down a Yonkou is a major stepping stone to becoming the Pirate King. His personal dream. I would imagine that teaming up with anyone (except his crew) would cheapen the achievement (in Luffy's eyes).
Luffy refused to take the logbook from Jeff because of that, he even turned down Rayleigh and said that he doesn't want to know anything about One Piece. He won't accept help if it isn't necessary to save a friend.All that said, I don't know if Luffy regards beating a Yonkou as a requirement to become the PK - but he obviously does when he regards the PK as the man with the most freedom.
How do you achieve freedom in the world of pirates?
Become stronger than anyone else - by defeating the Yonkou (or at least defeat one and intimidate the others).
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@Massimo:
How is continually challenging the Yonkou makes you survive in NW?? I assume that your mere presence "challanges" the Yonkou. So you either fight or die - or join them. Since the NW is divided between the 4, you are always going to piss off somebody.
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Are people STILL going on about the candy on fishman island being the same as Caesars?
Yeah, that's weird. Didn't the crew eat the candy in the banquet at the end of the arc? That means the strawhats are all drug addicts! Watch out for a whole new season of Intervention: One Piece edition!
Here's my two cents about the whole "Law and Luffy alliance thing": I know Law is mysterious and all that, and some believe he has some deep meaning behind bringing down a Yonkou, like to save his crew or something….but honestly, I think he just wants to take over the New World so he can claim One Piece. No, really? You don't say! I know it seems rather plain and simple, but honestly I think it's just that. There hasn't been any real evidence about his crew being hurt or in any type of danger. I think his crew might just be waiting at bay, ready for when he needs them. He knew if his whole crew embarked on PH, Caesar would've saw them as a threat. He wanted to appear harmless…that sneaky little bastard. Anyways, Law is taking advantage of the fact that the Strawhats happened to be on the island during his whole "actions towards his master plan" thing. He thought that it was quite a coincident they are on PH at this time, especially since he's looking for the key to take down a Yonkou. That's what I like about that crazy pirate doctor, he knows what he's up against and plans accordingly. He's smart about what steps he takes and obviously he knows that he can't take on a Yonkou by himself.
In Law's eyes, Luffy is not a threat yet. Sure they want the same prize and title, but Law knows they're necessary steps needed in order to get what they want. If he needs some one like Luffy on his side to achieve it, so be it. It doesn't make him a coward, he's just fucking realistic about what he goes against. A good example of this is represented during the whole Law vs Tashigi bit. When Tashigi tried to fight Law even though she was sliced in half, he didn't think she was being brave, he thought she was being a fool…it was obvious she lost and that was that. Plan better next time you go against someone stronger than you. And when she asked him to take her life, he didn't think she was being courageous, he thought she was being stupid. You don't learn anything from being dead, you're dead from being dead (unless your Brook. yohohoho.). Plus, he didn't plan to kill her and now there she was asking to be killed. He was like "Bitch, don't test me!" or "The weak do not pick their way of death!" or something like that. But yeah, the moral of the story is: be smart about your actions...or Law may sell your corpse to Gekko Moriah.
Anyways, about the so call "alliance" between the two, I'm calling foul. Law knows that getting the Strawhats to take down a Yonkou while he's around will only help him succeed in his plans to take over the New World. He's cleaver and cunning, patient with every move he makes. Law is like the fucking Bobby Fischer of One Piece. And every mastermind needs a powerful line of pawns...I have a feeling Luffy and his crew fit the bill.
But yeah, Law is mysterious and all that, so anything could happen :ninja:
Damn, that wasn't two cents...more like a buck fifty.