It is announced that there is a possibility for Studio Ghibli going break up after Marnie.
Studio Ghibli thread
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So, yeah, obviously I don't understand Japanese, but supposedly this means that Studio Ghibli has shut down.
http://someoneone.blog116.fc2.com/blog-entry-8987.html
EDIT: Okay, so actually the studio's not totally shutting down for good, they're just going back to a freelance system and they're still keeping a skeleton crew around for Miyazaki projects.http://ca-tsuka.tumblr.com/post/93699964708/so-its-now-official-studio-ghibli-is-stopping
Still, a pretty big change.
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Well, that's a shame BUT Its honestly not all that shocking and they've been saying they might do that for a couple years now.
The two guys that make most of their films are old well past retirement age and just don't have a lot of films left in them… and everyone else they were grooming to fill the gap either died (Kondo), is only getting roles by being his father's son (Miyazaki) or wasn't accepted into the company to begin with even though it seems they would have been a perfect fit (Hosoda).
Better to keep the legacy strong with a solid ~20 films... rather than risk tainting it with a string of lesser directors for years while they struggle to find someone adequate, and financially its tricky to warrant keeping a whole full blown studio going if you're only producing one film every several years.
I imagine Hayao has another film or two in him yet though and won't stop until he dies, but I guess the company is approaching the point Disney did in the 60's after Walt died.
(Arguments can be made, and people can have personal favorites, I love Robin Hood, Pooh, and Fox and the Hound, but most can agree the Disney output from the 60's-80's was pretty weak overall compared to the Walt years or the Renaissance.) I don't know that I'd want to see the Ghibli equivilent of Aristocats or Black Cauldron... though I suppose we've already gotten Earthsea.
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The glorious reign of Kyoto Animation and Shaft is finally here.
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How about Yonebaiyashi? I enjoyed Arriety and the reactions to his latest film have been ovewhelmingly positive.
@All:
The glorious reign of Kyoto Animation and Shaft is finally here.
No wonder my head's been tilting strangely these last couple of weeks.
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@All:
The glorious reign of Kyoto Animation and Shaft is finally here.
That is nothing to celebrate.
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@All:
The glorious reign of Kyoto Animation and Shaft is finally here.
They're decent studios hat make some allright stuff.
But they're in no way Ghibli level quality.
How about Yonebaiyashi? I enjoyed Arriety and the reactions to his latest film have been ovewhelmingly positive.
Miyzaki did the script for Arriety. (As well as Poppy Hill, his son's by all accounts "better" second outing.)
Obviously I haven't seen Marie yet, but the studio at least (and rightly so) doesn't feel Yonebaiyashi is a strong enough presence or director to singlehandedly hold the studio together for major production after major production as a draw.. and obviously Goro isn't ready without his father writing the script.
And well, Takahata is 78, even older than Hayao. He can't have many (if any) left in him either.
So yes, the slow down while they try and find more talent makes sense, since they won't have their two big names making things inbetween trying to train up new guys. Really is a shame Hisoda didn't wind up in there. Summer Wars might have been a little weird for a Ghibli film, but Wolf Children was a perfect fit.
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They're decent studios hat make some allright stuff.
But they're in no way Ghibli level quality.
I agree. They produce good animation; but, it only appeal to the anime fans. For Studio Ghibli, they basically made the anime which every Japanese people (even non-anime fans) enjoy watching.
I doubt Shaft and Kyoto Animation going to be a successor of Studio Ghible.
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It is good to leave with honor intact, then attempting to hold up a sinking ship.
I never cared much for this studio, the drool inducing hype and love people gave this guy always surprised me, but then again just may not be my thing, though I enjoyed Princess Monoke quite a lot.
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I never cared much for this studio, the drool inducing hype and love people gave this guy always surprised me, but then again just may not be my thing,
You're a bad person and you should feel bad.
though I enjoyed Princess Monoke quite a lot.
Hrm, maybe you're okay.
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Really is a shame Hisoda didn't wind up in there. Summer Wars might have been a little weird for a Ghibli film, but Wolf Children was a perfect fit.
Wasn't the whole 6th One Piece movie an allegory to Hosoda's time working on Howl's Moving Castle?
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There were two brilliant directors that had potential to take up the mantle from the duo.
One died, and the other, Miyazaki advised to make a foothold for himself elsewhere.I am, of course, talking about Kondou and Hosoda.
With Miyazaki and Takahata not getting any younger, I think Ghibli resting in piece with the duo is perfectly fine.
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R.I.P the studio that defined my childhood with masterpieces like Momonoke Hime and Sen To Chihiro no Kamikakushi.
And yeah I agree with others that Hosoda Mamoru is the next big thing, if he isn't already.
The Girl who Leapt through Time is my all-time favorite since it resonates with me so much, and Wolf Children I'm sure is better than any Ghibli film of the past 10 years. -
I just wish Miyazaki had pulled out one more mature adventure like Cagliostro, Laputa, Nausicaa or Mononoke (especially Mononoke). The childhood cute stuff like Totoro and Kiki and Ponyo is good and all, and I get where his sentimentalism was with Howl's and Spirited Away and Poppy Hill and such… but that adventure stuff was the stuff I liked best and he was just so damn good at it.
Or Porco Rosso 2, but that's probably best left as a standalone if Wind Rises was going to be the gist of what he had left to say about airplanes and war and a man's passions.
I mean, he's still got time obviously to do one or two more if he feels the desire, but... retirement is seeming more official this time around than it was the first three times he retired.
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So all this press has got me thinking about all the films I haven't seen, or were too young to have understood (I've "seen" Spirited, Moving Castle, Laputa, and Mononoke, but I in no way knew what was going on or had any amount of respect for what I was viewing), so I decided to watch all of their movies because it's something I feel I need to do. Today I watched Totoro and Mononoke for the first time, and damn do I love this studio.
It's sad that they're "closing" (or whatever's going on) right when I'm at a time in my life when I'm finally capable and willing to understand what these films are all about, but I'll love them nonetheless. Let's not have what happened to the Stones happen to Zeppelin or the Beatles.
EDIT: I watched The Wind Rises today (and thus have finally seen all of his films) but, while I probably enjoyed it more than most, I certainly don't want it to be Miyazaki's final movie. I loved it and it was a fantastic movie regarding dreams and beauty with themes Miyazaki hasn't delved into as as much. However, the selfish part of me wants him to just make one last fantasy/adventure ride loaded with that trademark, yet ingenious imaginative quality, deep themes and lovable characters. Take the epic of Nausicaä, the adventure of Laputa, the childlike sensibilities of Totoro, the maturity of Mononoke, the imagination of Spirited and somehow distill them into one completely new/original film and I would be happy.
Though that is indeed one tall order.
Hopefully at one of his birthday parties Miyazaki will see a kid who doesn't believe in magic or adventure and has no values, thus finding his final inspiration.
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The animated storyboard/ink drawing type of animation is beautiful. Hopefully that won't put too many people off because it looks adorable and amazing. I'm kinda glad they went the direction of traditional ink paintings rather than their usual animation. -
Ahhhhh, it does look gorgeous! Now I just want it on DVD so I can watch the Japanese version. Because for me this is a movie where I REALLY need to listen to the Japanese version. The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter (traditional title, not Princess Kaguya) is considered an ancient, classical tale that's central to Japanese literature/myth, so it was part of my college studies.
I'm sure Isao Takahata's take on it is fantastic.
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There was a pre-premiere showing of Princess Kaguya at a film-festival here in Norway. I just got back from seeing it. (For the second time, being that I also caught it when I was in Japan last year.)
For the record it's easily my favorite non-Miyazaki Ghibli-movie, and my third favorite of their movies overall. I had been a bit unsure whether I prefer this or Porco Rosso, but having now seen it again… Yeah The Tale of Princess Kaguya > Porco Rosso. Sorry flying pig, I still love ya. -
Me and Captain Usopp are hoping to catch it in theaters when I go up to Canada… but it's only playing ONE (announced) showing so far, so... who knows?
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Saw Kaguya in the theater with Captain Usopp. Very gorgeous film, the different artstyle was amazing. I really liked the opening twenty-thirty minutes or so when she was just a young child, but felt the middle dragged, and the ending really came out of nowhere (unless you're already familiar with the folktale… which I assume the entirety of the target Japanese audience does since infancy... so thats not a thing I guess.)
There was really no reason at all for the film to be over 2 hours long. I won't begrudge a director going the extra mile on their final work... and I wouldn't say there was any given thing that was wrong or should have been taken out, but... with 10 or 20 minutes cut off it might have been a much stronger film that moved at a better pace. COnversely, take out some of that middle and make the ending a real spectacle and pay it all off better might have worked?
For those not familiar with the folktale...
! the story ends with the reveal that Kaguya is from the moon… and the moon people (sometimes in a spaceship) come down to take her away and there is a great battle fought to keep Kaguya on Earth. In the film it was made mostly into a harmless affair with a little pagentry and emotion, but...I dunno... it could have packed more punch. The baby sequences were cute but the entire royalty sequence just dragged and dragged... I guess that'll happen when you take a 10 minute folktale and spend 137 telling its story.
It was decent, one of Takahata's better outings, but I still wouldn't put it ahead of much anything Miyazaki did. Its also really hard one to judge as not-a-native, since I didn't grow up with the story and rather than seeing a new version of it, I was basically seeing my first version of it (Outside of Okami I guess.)
Worth seeing for the visuals though.
I think CU liked it more than I did, however.
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naw. I'm about on the same boat as you, maybe a little more forgiving. It was a nice little film. Fun to watch for all the pretty artwork, but ya, the story could have been put together a little more solidly.
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naw. I'm about on the same boat as you, maybe a little more forgiving. It was a nice little film. Fun to watch for all the pretty artwork, but ya, the story could have been put together a little more solidly.
GAH WHERE did you guys see it?
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GAH WHERE did you guys see it?
….in Toronto?
It should be in small release in theaters stateside... but even in a major city it'll probably only be in an arthouse theatre for a week or two for a few showings, thats how most of the Ghibli films have been. Only in maybe 30-50 theatres total. (unless it gets an emmy nod or win in a few months)
OCTOBER 24
San Francisco, CA – AMC Metreon
San Francisco, CA – Sundance Kabuki Cinemas
Irvine, CA – Regal Edwards University Town Center
Pasadena, CA – Laemmle Playhouse
Berkeley, CA – Landmark Shattuck Cinema
Mountain View, CA – Century Cinemas 16
Santa Cruz, CA – The Nick
Portland, OR – Regal Fox Tower
Seattle, WA – Landmark Harvard Exit
Phoenix, AZ – Harkins Camelview
Montclair, NJ – Clairidge Cinema
Red Bank, NJ – Red Bank Theater
Manhasset, NY – Manhasset Cinemas
White Plains, NY – Cinema 100
Nelson, BC – Civic TheatreOCTOBER 31
San Diego, CA – Reading Gaslamp Stadium
Philadelphia, PA – Landmark Ritz at the Bourse
Baltimore, MD – The Charles
Charlotte, NC – Regal Ballantyne Village Stadium
Atlanta, GA – UA Tara Cinemas
Houston, TX – Sundance Cinemas
Austin, TX – Regal Arbor
Dallas, TX – Angelika Film Center
Honolulu, HI – Kahala Theatres
Vancouver, BC – Vancity Theatre
Gloucester, MA – Cape Ann Community Cinema (11/1 & 11/4-7)NOVEMBER 7
Providence, RI – Cable Car Cinema
Amherst, MA – Amherst Cinema
Cincinatti, OH – T.B.A.
Raleigh, NC – The Raleigh Grande
Knoxville, TN – Regal Downtown West
Memphis, TN – T.B.A.
Jacksonville, FL – Sun-Ray Cinema
Santa Fe, NM – CCA Santa Fe
Tucson, AZ – The Loft Cinema
Bellingham, WA – Pickford Film CenterNOVEMBER 14
Madison, WI – Sundance Cinemas
New Haven, CT – Bowtie Criterion Cinemas
Ithaca, NY – Cinemapolis Theater
Charlottesville, VA – Regal Downtown Mall
Nashville, TN – The Belcourt
Key West, FL – Key West Film Festival
Salt Lake City, UT – Broadway Centre Cinemas
Victoria, BC – The Vic TheatreNOVEMBER 28
Hartford, CT – Real Art Ways
DECEMBER 12
Columbus, OH – Sundance Cinemas
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Aw man, I see Toronto's done then.
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For those not familiar with the folktale…
! the story ends with the reveal that Kaguya is from the moon… and the moon people (sometimes in a spaceship) come down to take her away and there is a great battle fought to keep Kaguya on Earth. In the film it was made mostly into a harmless affair with a little pagentry and emotion, but...I dunno... it could have packed more punch. The baby sequences were cute but the entire royalty sequence just dragged and dragged...
! In the original folktale there's really not much of a battle. Kaguya's father gets a bunch of soldiers to try and fight the moon people off, but they just kinda overwhelm them so that there's not even a fight. Then they call Kaguya and she comes out on her own. So the movie might be closer to the story than you think.
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Aw man, I see Toronto's done then.
Would've been nice to support Studio ghibli at home.It'll probably run for a week or two wherever its showing, and not just one night. When we checked listings it was running till Thursday the 24th at the tiff theatre.
http://www.tiff.net/programming/new-releases/the-tale-of-the-princess-kaguya! In the original folktale there's really not much of a battle. Kaguya's father gets a bunch of soldiers to try and fight the moon people off, but they just kinda overwhelm them so that there's not even a fight. Then they call Kaguya and she comes out on her own. So the movie might be closer to the story than you think.
Oh I'm sure it's close to the original story. I'm just saying in my "didn't grow up in the culture at all and has no familiarity with the original" opinion, that was a chance to do something much more interesting at that point in the movie. Not a big action scene, maybe more akin to the parade in Pom Poko or something… or just a little more foreshadowing or proper emotional payoff. Just something a little grander or more touching than it was.
This is a case where I know I'm totally in the wrong as a foreigner and I can't hold anything against the movie for being faithful to its story... and its not the movie's fault for taking for granted a detail something that EVERYONE in the intended audience would already know
(akin to complaining that Shrek never explicitly explained it's fairy tale creatures and just took it as a matter of fact that everyone would get the references and jokes so Pinnochio's nose growing seems to come out of nowhere)It just seems like a missed opportunity to me.
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New interview with Miyazaki, after Governor's Award.
As well as video of John Lassiter introducing, and Miyazaki accepting.
TL;DR, Miyazaki is out of retirement, though he doesn't want to take the helm on any "big" projects. So far he's working on short films with a small team, but after that he said he doesn't know what his next project will be. Also confirmed that Ghibli will not stop making feature length films, only that they just wrapped up two films almost at once. He also said he hated sitting at home without working and that he'll work "until the day [he] dies".
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Wait…so how many times has this guy retired and made a come back by now?
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Well in his mind he's "retired from feature-length films", though whether that turns out to be true or not remains to be seen. My money's on him making at least one more movie. Just give him time to realize he wants to do it.
He's also currently trying to work on a manga set in the samurai days.
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That's good. I saw the Wind Rises, and I love the look at aviation and engineering work in the film, but it felt pretty long, and I felt the romance got in the way of the engineering work in the end. I mean, the romance was set up near the first act, but there's a fairly large middle portion that just focused on career before coming back to the romance. And even then, I felt like his success occurred off-screen and we only saw the finished product (though maybe I just wanted to see more on engineers designing aircraft). I can feel the passion in the project, and my feelings on the film are pretty good overall, but definitely hoping his career ends on a different note.
Another manga though? That could be very interesting indeed.
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Regarding the manga:
"Q: I’ve heard that you’re working on a new manga.
A: Yes, but it keeps getting pushed behind other projects (laughs). I can’t work on it as much as I’d like to.
Q: Is it set in the samurai days?
A: Yes, it is but I have my doubts as to whether I can finish it or not. I wanted to put a lot of effort into it, ignoring costs, like a hobby. I thought I’d have free time, but I keep getting project offers. Not necessarily lucrative ones, but they have a significance for me."
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Do we have French from Paris here who went to the Studio Ghibli exhibition at Art Ludique ? I’m tempted since I heard good report but this museum is quite expensive.
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New interview with Miyazaki, after Governor's Award.
As well as video of John Lassiter introducing, and Miyazaki accepting.
TL;DR, Miyazaki is out of retirement, though he doesn't want to take the helm on any "big" projects. So far he's working on short films with a small team, but after that he said he doesn't know what his next project will be. Also confirmed that Ghibli will not stop making feature length films, only that they just wrapped up two films almost at once. He also said he hated sitting at home without working and that he'll work "until the day [he] dies".
well i'm just glad that Miyazaki isn't retiring for good. retirement can be quite boring.
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Miyazaki isn't retired for the fifth time: News at 11.
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At this point he only will retire when he is actually dead.
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They recently announced new bluray releases for US. February 3rd Pom Poko, Porco Rosso, and Tales From Earthsea are getting the treatment. Princess Kaguya also is available for preorder, though no date is listed as of this post. I would assume Feb 3rd as well.
I'm really happy these releases are coming this fast as I hold off on buying DVD's, so I haven't gotten any of them yet. I hope they continue this three films released every three months, and I can't wait to finally own all the Ghibli movies in HD.
Just give us Spirited Away already!!! I need to complete my Miyazaki collection!!! Why, Disney, why!?!?
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Finally watched The Wind Rises, i am kind of ambivalent towards it. On one hand, thematically speaking, it might be a worthy last movie for Miyazaki (if it turns out to be his last of course), covering his love of flight, nature and humanity corrupting generally beautiful things, and of course, not to forget, those beautiful flight sequences, but on the other hand, it never managed to touch me and make me invested in any of the characters, mostly because it seemed like the movie itself was going through the motions without really exploring Jiro´s different experiences or the dilemma he was facing about his dream of building airplanes. Heck, even the reference to Thomas Mann´s Zauberberg and to Castorp (who appears in the film as the German in the hotel and is the main character in the Magic Mountain) actually had potential considering the times Jiro lived in but felt like random without any exposition.
Btw, since i read the last few pages of the thread, a possibly interesting piece of info: Thomas Mann´s wife had tuberculosis as well and was in a sanatorium because of it, thus Mann himself spent a considerable amount of time there. It was served as inspiration for The Magic Mountain which is set in a sanatorium as well. -
GKIDS will be dubbing "When Marnie was There".
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The trailer for Ghibli's final film, "When Marnie was There":
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So I finally got to watching Porco Rosso and absolutely loved it… but what the heck is up with Ghibli film endings?!
I went from "^_^ aah this was so nice~" to "O_O WHAT THE HELL" in 15 seconds.
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So I was just looking at Filmweb.no, basically the homepage of Norwegian cinema, and found that apparently Spirited Away is getting a theatrical re-release this month, due to the movie getting dubbed in Norwegian. (Really kind of weird that it's only NOW getting dubbed, being that it's been available on DVD in Japanese with Norwegian subtitles since like 2002 or so.)
Goddammit Norwegian cinema, I'm trying not to spend all that much money but the idea of seeing Spirited Away in theaters seems very tempting…So I finally got to watching Porco Rosso and absolutely loved it… but what the heck is up with Ghibli film endings?!
I went from "^_^ aah this was so nice~" to "O_O WHAT THE HELL" in 15 seconds.
Yeah, endings never did seem to be Miyazaki's strong side. I think out of all his movies, the only ones I didn't feel could have benefitted from another minute or two before the credits started rolling were Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke.
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Or in Nausicaa's case, another 6 hours.
I'm surprised that with Miyazaki's latest retirement, the studio hasn't decided to do a full blown adaptation of the manga. Its already written and storyboarded, it wouldn't need quite as much personal attention and work… but I guess the idea of committing resources to 8 hours of film in a multi-part franchise isn't really the Ghibli model.
And dont want to tarnish the original or whatever. But still!
Similarly amazed they haven't remade Akira by now. Both cases where the movies were done when the mangas werent even half way and so missed the real meat of the story and had cop out endings.
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I want a Nausica OVA based on the manga rather than whatever the hell stunted crappy mutant the movie is supposed to be.
Same for Akira (though the Akira movie is at least an audio-visual pleasure still).
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The strangest big deal anime adaptation of those days is still Ghost in the Shell though.
That movie is so dour and gloomy, and you think "man the manga must be super dark and super realistic".
And then the manga is tonally confused mish mash of cartoony humans goofing around and tech-babble lol.
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I want a Nausica OVA based on the manga rather than whatever the hell stunted crappy mutant the movie is supposed to be.
Same for Akira (though the Akira movie is at least an audio-visual pleasure still).
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The strangest big deal anime adaptation of those days is still Ghost in the Shell though.
That movie is so dour and gloomy, and you think "man the manga must be super dark and super realistic".
And then the manga is tonally confused mish mash of cartoony humans goofing around and tech-babble lol.
Still think the SAC tv series were ultimately the best product of that franchise.Come on, crappy is pushing it… But yeah, it is one of Ghibli's weakest films and a more faithful OVA would be glorious (is Anno still interested in doing one?). It's pretty much a 10/10 manga even though it was difficult to get through for me because of my concentration issues.
Remember the Ghibli marathon we had in 2013? Did you guys have one last year as well?
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The trailer for Ghibli's final film, "When Marnie was There":
Oooh that looks interesting! Good casting choices too.
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That feel when Kaguya isn't showing in theaters anymore because you procrastinated watching it for so long.
It's odd though, they only showed it for a little more than a month in Stockholm. Maybe it didn't do well.
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Finally got to watch When Marnie Was There.
I wasn't big fan of some of Ghibli's latest pictures, notably The Wind Rises and From Up On Poppy Hill which felt like a chore for me watching them.
Hooray the Miyazakis are making films they want to make! But yawn it's not something I want to see.
But boy this was a treat to my eyes, ears and, yeah yeah, heart.With a plot that might sound like a psycho-sexual horror thriller if told by wrong voices (In evil Cumberbatch voice: A sick girl is lured into an adandoned mansion by a mysterious woman who has some dark secrets), this film has classic Ghibli elements:
A young girl with problems. Well-meaning adults. (Beautiful) Country side. Supernatural (?) friend.
You spend the first half hour just enjoying the beautiful pictures and ticking off your To-See List for a Ghibli film.Very very slight spoilers ahead, but still in a spoiler tag.
! Then Marnie appears.
I realized what the film was doing but was still mystified by it.
Got to admit the change of scenes didn't really feel connected.
I guess it was hard for the makers too since they resorted to "stuff disappeared while the heroine dosed off" cliche.
However this is not faulting the contents but the glue.
! There was a moment where I grinned and whispered "Aha!" 15 minutes before the final revelation and ended up proven wrong with a clever twist on the twist.
Wow. What a pay-off it had.
The obligatory explanation sequence was turned into something powerful and resonant and it's thanks to the build-up that may have baffled you earlier.It's a shame that this film lost out to the annual regurgitation of tired old Pokemon: The Movie series.
The director Yonebayashi made Arrietty for Ghibli which easily trumps Goro Miyazaki's attempts at direction.
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New Ghibli film next September, The Red Turtle.
This one is a co-production with French and European studios apparently. But hey, good to have something while the studio is rudderless after the retirement of their main guys.
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And because this came and went without much comment a year ago and I was just reminded that it even existed…
Ronia the Robber's Daughter
http://gogoanime.io/sanzoku-no-musume-ronja-episode-1#Co-produced by Ghibli, directed by Goro Miyazaki, 26 episodes.
The CG characters are a bit distracting but the backgrounds are gorgeous. Sort of a Nino Kuni looks as a result. Slow paced, very old school in style.