@ka!z0ku:
We clearly have a different view on strength..if u don't view ability to transform from 1 form to another is indeed a strength poses by DF Zoan user then its pointless for us to argue on this matter..so for me if DF Zoan user can add additional form more than 3(which's a "god given" limit for them),its clearly a sign of additional in strength.
It has nothing to do with view. Its that you're arguing a completely different topic. I put god given in quotes because obviously his powers are from a DF and I don't think Chopper trained to be so buff in his human/gorilla point. His fruit simply gave him human body already in its peak. That strength is still his being put to different uses by the rumble ball.
I'm never saying RB increased his existing muscle mass..Can Chopper focuses his existing muscle mass in to Arm point or any other additional point without RB?
So in this case RB acting as stimulants for additional transformation which is unnatural for DF Zoan user or chopper specifically.While for Hody ES acting as stimulants for additional energy/power by increasing his muscle mass an improve his bone structure.The point is both Hody and Chopper taken ES and RB for the purpose gaining an advantage during their fight.
OK but the original argument being made was that we shouldn't view ES as a bad thing because they're just like RB and Cola. The disagreement is in how simplistic that view is ignoring the vast differences each substance has on the user and how they use the "power" afforded to them.
I dont want to turn this into a Scientific/medical forum.My advice is for u to do some more research on this matter.Ur statement r baseless..We indeed have steriods in our body for example sex hormone and both vitamin & steriod are "organic compound". Supplement/vitamin pill and "Drug" are both "chemical compound".The differents are level of dosage that can harm/benefit and the side effect.
Please don't tell anybody to do research and then follow with either wrong or partial information. Naturally occurring steroids are different than the anabolic(synthetic) steroids some athletes take. Obviously ES are anabolic and Hodi is abusing them. Might also try looking up the definition of baseless. How is my description of a supplements use baseless or the definition of a drug?
Twas the argument.
@Stylishman:
This is way, way too complicated and specific a definition. A drug is simply something that has an effect when introduced into the body. That's it. Therefore, both ES and RB are drugs.
That is way to simplistic.
-A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.
-a chemical substance that affects the processes of the mind or body.
You're trying to not recognize the difference between heroin, cocaine, banned anabolic steroids, and alcohol with insulin, vitamin supplements, and Pepto-bismal.