Great chapter, so glad we're finally at fishman island.
Also is it just me, or does Noah have the same nose as Shillew?
Chapter 608: "Paradise Under the Sea" Discussion
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Sanji stole the whole chapter.
"I withstood it." Had me in pain from the laughter
And i love the rest of the crew legitamitely noting that theres something wrong with Sanji since he's been back.
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OMFG the NFP leader is KOKORO'S EVIL TWIN! :O:O:O:O
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Great chapter, so glad we're finally at fishman island.
Also is it just me, or does Noah have the same nose as Shillew?Noah is not his name.
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Also, loving the killifish mermaids. I really hope they color them properly in the anime:
[qimg]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__AuwUApfRb4/SNM57NNDvCI/AAAAAAAACww/RuRnwVXgFv8/s1600/killifish.jpg[/qimg]Not all killifish look like that though, so it is hard to predict what colors will be used. (According to wikipedia there are 1270 species).
They could even look (somewhat) ugly:
That is a mangrove killifish, which is known for being able to spend up to 2 months out of the water at a time. And as they are rather close to a mangrove, it wouldn't be too surprising to me if that was the color they got. I do hope they end up being one of the prettier species though.
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I'm more interested in the differences. Whereas Skypiea had a middle eastern holy land conflict vibe, the dominating cultural background of Fishman Island seems to be southern california. We have hot bikini girls, gyoverly hills, mansions, beach volleyball, designer brands, water highways, and the classic hollywood trope of the struggling waitress with super star friends. I'm wondering if the Fishmen district is going to be based on Compton?
Most likely. The fishmen seem to be the dangerous living, gangsta, previously oppressed Minorities of FI the same way African Americans are in comparison to California as well. Nice assessment there on the Cali vibe, spot on.
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And i love the rest of the crew legitamitely noting that theres something wrong with Sanji since he's been back.
"Seriously what the hell happened to you in the last two years!?"Me trying to imagine what it would be like living with transvestites constantly trying to turn me gay for 2 years…. yea, I can see why Sanji is finding it hard to get by without fainting at the sight of beautiful women, lol.
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Awesome chapter, loved the Sanji stuff, and the mermaids were smokin'. Great all around, the only thing I didn't like was the "Going from a Pirate logo to a Ninja logo" Announcement. >_>
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Well, two chapters ago the water pressure was supposed to be able to kill Zoro. Now they all drown, Nami, Usopp and the weaker DF users Robin and Chopper, if it wasn't for the stream, they would have had no problem, and Kamie luckily was there (I didn't understand her statement about the one month mistake) to save them all, at the right place at the exact right time.
They passed through the giant bubbles, but they didn't use the actual entrance out of desperation. Past the bubbles they were no longer subject to the pressures of the actual ocean, just the water at the bottom of FI. Still underwater, but its the difference between being at the bottom a bathtub and the bottom of a lake.
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First, I think all the whining about "separation" is kinda ridiculous.
Second, I think complaining about Luffy possibly facing a tough opponent on Fishman Island is also ridiculous. We've been building to this arc for what, four and a half years now? I want it to be a 60 chapter major story arc like Water Seven / Enies Lobby / Alabasta / Skypiea, not a quick pit stop like Logue Town or even a small arc like Drum / Little Garden.
Guarantee they'll be spending as much time 10,000 meters below the ocean as they did 10,000 meters up in the sky. I think this needs to be an equally big arc with lots of new ideas (such as dials) introduced.
We're already seeing that there's a heck of a lot more going around…Neptunian Army? Van Der Dekken and the Flying Dutchman? "Noah"? New Fishman Pirates Leader? What about a backstory for Fisher Tiger? What about seeing Arlong again? And .... what about Jimbei?
I mean, these "New Fishman Pirates" are actually on Fishman Island (probably in the bottom Bubble imo)...and their leader has got to be pretty strong right? Well...where is Jimbei? What's he doing about all this? Could he have been a coup? Jimbei has been friends with many humans (Ace, Luffy, Whitebeard, etc.) and is ultimately peaceful.
Honestly, if this new Fishman Pirate Leader is strong enough to even rival Jimbei, he should be enough to rival Luffy as well. Luffy being Admiral "pwn everything and everyone" level would be boring as heck....unless you want every fight to be like Luffy vs. Bellamy.
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NFP's leader is Kaidou.
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if that's him, where are the jagged teeth? =/
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Great chapter.
I think I say that about every new chapter now.On page 9 when we first see the leader, who first came to mind?
First thing I noticed was what looked like 5 blades coming out of his hands.
I was thinking, "They chose to bring back Kuro?!?!?!"It was awesome they mentioned him crying while leaving Baratie. That was an amazing chapter. I think the anime improved him leaving Baratie though.
Did anyone notice that Sanji doesn't seem to want the sexual aspect of women?
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When Oda does a colored image, it is so amazing. That image of Luffy blew my mind.
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Not for anything, but Kokoro does have a mostly human granddaughter…so regardless of the exact nature of mermaid anatomy, we do know they can breed with humans....and somehow I think we'll get an explanation for that as best as Oda can provide in a shonen series.
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Well you know after 30 they can walk on land (so perhaps…)
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NFP's leader is Kaidou.
Yeah, I thought that to. The silhouettes are similar, but i don't really think he is Kaidou. Anyways, there is a room for doubt
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It was funny seeing Luffy in a T-Shirt. Made him look younger. Haha
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Who else thinks Jinbei is with some of the other strawhats?
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if that's him, where are the jagged teeth? =/
The jawline and nose looks like Kaido's silhouette, also the hat. I believe 'Kai' from Kaido means 'Ocean.' It just makes sense.
To answer the question about the teeth it could just be covered by his upper lip on the old silhouette, since that was drawn from an angle looking downwards. Also Kaido had a past with Moria, and it didn't take Jinbei very long during the war to point out that Salt was his weakness. I would be surprise if it wasn't Kaido.
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I bet the army is made of male mermaids opposing the fishmen ways and the boss is called NeptunNeptun is the King of FI.
Neptune (Romans) / Poseidon (Greeks).
Awesome.
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This arc already have New Fishman Pirate, Neptune's Army, Caribou's gang, the Flying Dutchman… the grandeur of multi-faction actions is one of Oda's specialties and what separate OP from other Shonens, can't wait!
In comparison, the sexy mermaids are almost non-important, almost...
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Those mermaids were worth the page. In my opinion.
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This has been the kind of chapter I was finally waiting for; for 'twas extremely good, and I must say that I finished reading it feeling more satisfied than any other chapter that's been released after the two-year timeskip as of yet. Fishman Island looks friken awesome, the issues of segregation is engrossingly intriguing, and Sanji had me literally ROFLMAOing (Nearly took me two minutes to get myself together again after Luffy said, "He's crying more than when he left Baratie, huh?") 'till my cheeks got tired.
Excellent chapter, Oda!!
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Everything was worth it's own page in this chapter, in my opinion.
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Sigh. :] It's so good to see them all on an adventure again. I totes missed this.
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What exactly is shown in the panel on the bottom? I can't recognize it.
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I hope the rest of the crew are not dead
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What exactly is shown in the panel on the bottom? I can't recognize it.
! [qimg]http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/5/32383345/08.png[/qimg]
Noah.
Noah's an ark.
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What exactly is shown in the panel on the bottom? I can't recognize it.
It is named Noah, or the place I believe, so it is probably an arc. Like Noah's Arc, almost looks like Eneru's.
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I hope the rest of the crew are not dead
They are dead.
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Aw man, this chapter rocked. :D
-Glad to see Keimi again!
-Heh, I chuckled when the Mermaid Quintuplets named themselves, the whole Yonka two thing was funny. XD
-The page with the adult mermaids…...okay, that was awesome. ;)
-Sanji was killing me, he never ceases to entertain me.
-Wonder where Hachi is? And frankly, the rest of the crew....
-The shadowed Fishman at the end.....no, it couldn't be. -
Aw man, this chapter rocked. :D
-Glad to see Keimi again!
-Heh, I chuckled when the Mermaid Quintuplets named themselves, the whole Yonka two thing was funny. XD
-The page with the adult mermaids…...okay, that was awesome. ;)
-Sanji was killing me, he never ceases to entertain me.
-Wonder where Hachi is? And frankly, the rest of the crew....
-The shadowed Fishman at the end…..no, it couldn't be.That would be awesome and epic, but in the same time it just wouldn't feel right. O_o
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…couldn't be what?
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-The shadowed Fishman at the end…..no, it couldn't be.
Unless Fishman Island offers rhinoplasty, it's not.
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Aw man, this chapter rocked. :D
-Glad to see Keimi again!
-Heh, I chuckled when the Mermaid Quintuplets named themselves, the whole Yonka two thing was funny. XD
-The page with the adult mermaids…...okay, that was awesome. ;)
-Sanji was killing me, he never ceases to entertain me.
-Wonder where Hachi is? And frankly, the rest of the crew....
-The shadowed Fishman at the end.....no, it couldn't be.How did u know….it IS chuck norris :ninja:
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Chuck Norris is in Fishman Island?? :o
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Well, two chapters ago the water pressure was supposed to be able to kill Zoro. Now they all drown, Nami, Usopp and the weaker DF users Robin and Chopper, if it wasn't for the stream, they would have had no problem, and Kamie luckily was there (I didn't understand her statement about the one month mistake) to save them all, at the right place at the exact right time. For whatever reason (???) the group has been split in at least two (?) and all they have to say is "well, they must be fine" when even them couldn't do anything to save their own lives !?
Yea something weird happened. Nothing is making sense so far. Why is there sky and sunlight(even outside the bubble). (yea I mentioned this earlier). I could see the water pressure not being bad because it was between the two bubbles. Hopefully Oda explains after yet another break… <sigh>why does he have to take a break every 2 weeks :.</sigh>
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Yea something weird happened. Nothing is making sense so far. Why is there sky and sunlight(even outside the bubble). (yea I mentioned this earlier). I could see the water pressure not being bad because it was between the two bubbles. Hopefully Oda explains after yet another break… <sigh>why does he have to take a break every 2 weeks :.</sigh>
ya…how dare Oda not work during holidays. someone should whip him so he gets back to work.
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Yea something weird happened. Nothing is making sense so far. Why is there sky and sunlight(even outside the bubble). (yea I mentioned this earlier). I could see the water pressure not being bad because it was between the two bubbles. Hopefully Oda explains after yet another break… <sigh>why does he have to take a break every 2 weeks :.</sigh>
Jump issue is double so not Oda take a brake,and if what Redon posted in the spoiler thread is true the next chapter is going to have a colorspread and if we lucky if the spoilers from the next chapter are going to appear the next week.
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Your all fools it's arlongs brother, it explains everything!!!!!!!!!
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Wow! I still can't believe we are at Fishman Island already!! Just as speculated the Strawhats entered FI the unconventional way. I really love the Quintuplet little mermaids they are really cute. Caime/Keime look so hot along with the other mermaids. Sanji was funny in this arc again and Pappug.. Groverly Hills.. really? Hammond's boss looks like Arlong's stronger brother or maybe even his Father
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Your all fools it's arlongs brother, it explains everything!!!!!!!!!
Your argument is only valid if Oda claims that the fishmen can cross breed with other fish types.
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He's Arlong's second cousin.
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Or maybe he's…
JINBE!!
[[b]EDIT: Even though that wouldn't really make any sense whatsoever, appearance-wise. :P]
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Or maybe he's…
JINBE!!
[[B]EDIT: Even though that wouldn't really make any sense whatsoever, appearance-wise. :P]
Jinbei is more than likely in charge of Neptunes army.
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Then Jinbei didn't cut his hair in all 2 years even if it cost his life.
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Jump issue is double so not Oda take a brake,and if what Redon posted in the spoiler thread is true the next chapter is going to have a colorspread and if we lucky if the spoilers from the next chapter are going to appear the next week.
Lol, sorry I should have sounded less serious about Oda's breaks. His comics are so detailed that I just dont care. He's gotta manage all these personalities and backgrounds. It's tough stuff.
I am itching for a great colorpsread with the 2Year strawhats though. Gotta get something printed and I dont wanna settle on the previous few.
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Sky piea, Sky Piea, Sky piea
this chapter reminds me of sky piea just skip the portion of them getting split with luffy, ussop and sanji at conis house they got split from the get go. Only difference is that this time around chopper is with the trio and not with the others.