Van Der dekken doesn't have to have the devil fruit, someone else with a devil fruit could have made him live underneath the sea. God only know what weird Devil fruits are yet to come.
Chapter 606: Adventure in the Depth
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Any word on what Van Der Dekken's name could be a reference to?
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it is straight up the name of the Flying Dutchman in the original fable/myth.
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One of the few times in One Piece where a character's name matches perfectly to the namesake.
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wel, his front name should be willem for it to be correct, but yes. Popular folklore suggest it's a Flemish ship coming from terneuzen that tried to get around cape de goede hoop but a storm broke loose and the captain of the ship got pissed and threw his helmsman overboard stating "I will sail around this cape even if it'll take 'till the end of days" He then threw his bible into the sea which incurred the wrath of god himself. The storm went down and God said to Van Der Dekken that he will sail the cape untill the end of days. His crew eventually withered away and he sails the cape endlessly, never able to get away.
Also, there is a curse connected to the flying dutchman. It is common believe that seeing the ship causes bad luck and the reason why they call it the "flying" dutchman is because there is a phenomena at see in which the crew of a ship can see their own ship flying somewhere above them and also other ships in thick fog. I have no scientific explanation but it has to do with reflections from the sea surface getting projected into the fog. Because people saw a flying ship they would immediately think of the legend of course and believe to have struck by bad luck. Even people that didn't believe in ghost ships believed seeing this phenomena was bad luck. -
Oh, that's cool. I looked it up on Wikipedia just to see and missed it.
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well seeing he's a legend and a myth and Flemish. I know quite a bit about it. I am Flemish too and I just happen to like folklore so.
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- I do like the cover page since anything with Robin is beautiful, but is it just me or is the angle a bit weird?
- I absolutely love the dark sea with the luminescent jellyfish. Strange deep sea creatures are fascinating.
- Oh wow, and there it goes. That's what you get for trying to eat a jellyfish. Good thing Robin warned Chopper in time since it was enough poison to kill that other huge fish.
- Brook having a monologue is hilarious.
- Yo, don't go forgetting Caribou is still on board!
- Oh my god the panels with Franky creeping up on Caribou made me howl with laughter!
- Holy awesome his hand is a toolbox.
- Being the slave of master bikini pants doesn't seem like a bad idea actually.
- It's getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes~
- Oh damn, underwater volcanoes. Get outta there.
- That blobfish is seriously creeping me out.
- Like hell Oda would not use the nipple lights joke again. Golden stuff.
- YES ANGLERFISH! I love them, they look so menacing.
- A sea giant now? And hey, really nice to have The Flying Dutchman here, though everybody has already mentioned it.
- Wow, the panel with Surume punching the umibozu is kickass. And he's kinda cute when smiling, I like him a lot.
- It never ceases to amuse me when Zoro gives lectures on other people getting lost.
- I love how Usopp is still shocked in the background.
- Ah, cliffhanger ending.
Loved this chapter.
ditto on this end.
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my prediction is that the flying dutchman crew are gonna become allies. And luffy will entrust the krakken to them while he goes on his adventure. That will be how the flying dutchman gets the krakken, a la Pirates of the Carribean…
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well seeing he's a legend and a myth and Flemish. I know quite a bit about it. I am Flemish too and I just happen to like folklore so.
–---------------> Leuk!!!
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A devil fruit that means he can't leave the sea? That's pretty much…no, its EXACTLY opposite of a DF.
who knows? there might be such exception,
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well seeing he's a legend and a myth and Flemish. I know quite a bit about it. I am Flemish too and I just happen to like folklore so.
I am Flemish too, but how can you think the Flying Dutchman (vliegende hollander) is flemish rather than dutch?
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I am Flemish too, but how can you think the Flying Dutchman (vliegende hollander) is flemish rather than dutch?
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Vliegende_Hollander_(spookschip
Read that, apparently the flying dutchman was just a nickname for the ship and in that time Flanders was dutch territory.
The dutch did take a lot of credit for things the Flemish have done. First settlers of New York were Flemish, etc etc etc….
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That would be so cool and Coriboo would try to avenge his crew by killing the SHs.
Yeah, Coriboo seems like a character that will stick arround for awhile, if not then perhaps just for FI arc. He fits right in with BB crews look.
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http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Vliegende_Hollander_(spookschip
Read that, apparently the flying dutchman was just a nickname for the ship and in that time Flanders was dutch territory.
The dutch did take a lot of credit for things the Flemish have done. First settlers of New York were Flemish, etc etc etc….
Yeah…off course they did..... to think of it, the flemish are just lost dutchies anyway. What the hell are you doing trying to form a country with the French anyway?
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i love nami's new habit of putting her hands on her face when something scary is going on. so cute.
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i decided to animate my avatar
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i decided to animate my avatar
Hmm….Could you make it slower? It feels like it'd be more effective than.
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Franky is so awesome. I can't wait to actually see him in a fight.
-Rockets
-Nipple LightsImagine the other stuff he has. I'm guessing we'll get a new revelation of a Franky gadget every five or so chapters.
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this time i was awwed by the chapter …...... love brooks gag ..... finally no more sanji nosebleed :D .......... and kraken was so cute .... it actually blushed hahahah ...and i dont think oda would bring so mane wannabe fakes ... according to me the flying dutchmen would be a long lost ancient fishman ....anyways i was wondering wht would happen if a fishman eats a devil fruit :O
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Shaking my head at Chopper being unaware of jellyfish venom. I mean, dude, you suck at being a doctor.
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Roger and Luffy look EXACTLY the same in this chapter when Luffy tells Surume to stop. I really don't like the roger-luffy similarity.
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Shaking my head at Chopper being unaware of jellyfish venom. I mean, dude, you suck at being a doctor.
Well we already knew that, half the time he forgets that he is a doctor…
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"Jim, I'm a doctor not a zoologist!"
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Roger and Luffy look EXACTLY the same in this chapter when Luffy tells Surume to stop. I really don't like the roger-luffy similarity.
yeah i dont like it either. it completely took away luffy's idividuality
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I agree, hence why I wasn't totally psyched about the strawhat originally belonging to Roger.
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my prediction is that the flying dutchman crew are gonna become allies. And luffy will entrust the krakken to them while he goes on his adventure. That will be how the flying dutchman gets the krakken, a la Pirates of the Carribean…
but this isnt pirates of the carribean….........
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I kind of hope the Kraken will stay with them for longer than just this arc, but I get the feeling they'll part ways when the SHs resurface.
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I kind of hope the Kraken will stay with them for longer than just this arc, but I get the feeling they'll part ways when the SHs resurface.
Yeah, he'll be the Giant Serpent/ King Yagara of the Arc. Probably take a big hit from some enemy and survive to be awesome another day.
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Roger and Luffy look EXACTLY the same in this chapter when Luffy tells Surume to stop.
Honestly… Anyone could have seen that coming, I mean jeez, Luffy announces he's going to be king of the pirates, you should have seen the simularities.
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I kind of hope the Kraken will stay with them for longer than just this arc, but I get the feeling they'll part ways when the SHs resurface.
This seems to be the case.
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But it sounds like Luffy wants him/her forever.. Which would be cool.
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Yeah…off course they did..... to think of it, the flemish are just lost dutchies anyway. What the hell are you doing trying to form a country with the French anyway?
well they don't, they more try to be independant right today…
if they are part of Belgium it is because it was based on religious split with Holland
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Honestly… Anyone could have seen that coming, I mean jeez, Luffy announces he's going to be king of the pirates, you should have seen the simularities.
Zing.Him and every other person embarking on to the seas looking for One Piece.
I didn't like the straw hat being Roger's however it was foreshadowed slightly when Luffy met Rayleigh for the first time, although I'm sure everyone thought Rayleigh was making a comparison to shanks.
Also, the comparisons have been shown repeatedly since the beginning so I guess it was only a matter of time, that we had something significant bond formed between Roger and Luffy.
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Shrug Similar people do similar things and tend to say and like the same things. I once had a great friend who was incredibly similar to me, and we liked and said and did the same things all the time independently of each other. Whether you want to call it fate, or luck, or just what happens, it doesn't really matter, nor does it do anything to lessen the achievements of anybody.
People tend to put too much importance on being the first to do something, or being unique in some way. Just because someone climbed Mt. Everest before you did doesn't make your achievement less important.
I didn't say any of that too well because I was just saying the first thing that came to mind but I'm to lazy to go over it and edit it to make it more organized or fleshed out.
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I know she's very concerned about undersea volcanoes, but do you think that Nami heard Van der Decken saying he was the richest man in the world and that he was after her treasure?
If she did then I doubt he will be able to sail as rich he was before!Also I don't think the ship is the Flying Dutchman, it's probably fans for the real Flying Dutchman (aka Johan Cruyff :ninja:)
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Page 12. I came.
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Dunno if it has been mentioned but i think the Kraken won't be able to help next chatper: Van Der Dekken said "Monster of the Arctic" when referring to the Kraken so i suppose that, like Chopper, he doesn't do well in hot situations such as an active underwater volcano about to erupt.
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I know she's very concerned […]
Maybe a bit out of context, but i repost it here again for those who are interested what those undersea-vulcanos are in real life..
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..what i realy liked in this chapter ?
the amount of Real Life information..
about the Umibozu..(at first..i thought that he was a giant(the same height as San Juan)
..and the Flying Dutchman ?
just awesome..
..this chapter gives me knowledge..
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This volcano is interesting. And was a fairly good cliffhanger to the chapter.
Franky totally stole the show this chapter. Just hilarious.
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If the Van Der Dekken Pirates are the Main Villains i hope that Umibozu (?) fights Chopper's Monster Form (Controlled or Not) :D
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Honestly… Anyone could have seen that coming, I mean jeez, Luffy announces he's going to be king of the pirates, you should have seen the simularities.
Zing.well so did half of the other pirates in the new world.
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People tend to put too much importance on being the first to do something, or being unique in some way. Just because someone climbed Mt. Everest before you did doesn't make your achievement less important.
It's okay though. Luffy may only be the second to go to Raftel, but he will be the first to completely overthrow the world government ^_^
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Dunno if it has been mentioned but i think the Kraken won't be able to help next chatper: Van Der Dekken said "Monster of the Arctic" when referring to the Kraken so i suppose that, like Chopper, he doesn't do well in hot situations such as an active underwater volcano about to erupt.
Ooh, good call, I didn't think about that! Yeah, I can totally see Oda working that in!
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Perhaps it was already said, but the idea just hit me.
What if van der Dekken is a giant. Or was(if he is dead). Or something close in size(like Kuma-size). His ship is enermous and from that particular shot from marineford with Oars against Lacruax (that in cap), when battleship is used as club, I established that Oda usually keeps in mind giant=battleship height. And Sunny has a good scale shot on the last page.
So to operate such ship van der Dekken either must have big crew, or be very high himself, so big ship is needed to fell comfortable. And the latter will be more cool. So just, perhaps? -
I don't see Luffy as similar to Roger in the least…. but I guess thats just my opinion.
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Umibozu is not a giant..right ?
hes a sea monster..Right ?
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i wonder..if oda will show more sea monsters,like sirens,lyumnades and Scylla
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Umibozu really looks like Sanjuan Wolf, to me…
The eyes are the best example.