Chapter 595: "Oath" Discussion

FireFistLuffy

@Kairouseki:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll37/Geesaroni/RageFace.png
That better be sarcasm.

I have to believe it's sarcasm

lol.

yes I'm messing :P

@ultimateclima:

Cnet's translation is out.
http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/23981

I noticed things I probably should've caught earlier, but whatever.

Blackbeard was surprised that Bonney has a bounty over 100 million. I mean, this could just be a sexist comment but given Akainu's comment Bonney's bounty might have been issued for reasons other than strength like Nico Robin's bounty.
I mean that was obvious that her bounty was issued involving some incident with the World Government from this chapter but I'm curious as to whether she was issued 100 million JUST because of this incident. If that's the case she must be more of a threat than Nico Robin, the girl capable of reviving the ancient weapons.
This also makes me curious how "strong" Bonney is. Nico Robin is super dangerous, but she was issued her bounty before she used her powers for assassination and stuff.

Finally! Yes <3 cnet128 true OP fan, unlike that bstrd Molokadin.

@ultimateclima:

Blackbeard's comments on Luffy made me think that he knew about bounties and strength. I mean he pegged Luffy as someone that should have a bounty of over 30 million, albeit that was because of Luffy's "ambition". Also, being on Whitebeard's crew would allow Blackbeard to see enough of the world to determine strength. He's been on the ship at least twenty years.

And even though Blackbeard is super powerful, the other comments about her not being powerful enough to join the crew also made me think she's not "strong". I mean it could just mean she's not "Blackbeard crew" strong but still.

And I don't mean this to be a "is Bonney strong" argument, but I'm more curious as to whether her initial bounty was issued like Robin's bounty was initially issued.

I think Bonney more of threat not with her DF powers but knowing some information on the WG. I always thought she was more of a dud out of the nova's was glad she got put in her place by BB crew. So I'm going to interpet BB calling her weak as her being weak, even if BB still out of her league. Thanks for cnet link !

madmanricky · M madmanricky next chapter is to be released 8/23/2010 in japan

next chapter is to be released 8/23/2010 in japan

wewacian

@madmanricky:

next chapter is to be released 8/23/2010 in japan

you mean the 16th, right?

….right?

Aohige_AP

@wewacian:

you mean the 16th, right?

….right?

No.
How in the heck did you manage to not notice the double issue notice, or are you not understanding how it works?

Zik

Ahh yes if it isn't "Is there a chap next week?" it's "When is the next chap releasing? In 10 days instead of 7 right? ignores what the length of a week is and that ppl on the internet illegally get the chap a week ahead of buyers in Japan"
@ultimateclima:

Blackbeard's comments on Luffy made me think that he knew about bounties and strength. I mean he pegged Luffy as someone that should have a bounty of over 30 million, albeit that was because of Luffy's "ambition". Also, being on Whitebeard's crew would allow Blackbeard to see enough of the world to determine strength. He's been on the ship at least twenty years.

And even though Blackbeard is super powerful, the other comments about her not being powerful enough to join the crew also made me think she's not "strong". I mean it could just mean she's not "Blackbeard crew" strong but still.

And I don't mean this to be a "is Bonney strong" argument, but I'm more curious as to whether her initial bounty was issued like Robin's bounty was initially issued.

I don't mean to say she's weak and not worthy to be a SN but just that it's an indication of rank among them where Luffy and Kidd would be at the top.

I was also referring to what BB had to say about Luffy in ID in regards to his ambition.

I dunno about the WG just tacking on a bounty/outright lying about one of her crimes to make her a wanted criminal. That'd be rather cheap for a SN.

wewacian

@Aohige_AP:

No.
How in did you manage to not notice the double issue notice, or are you not understanding how it works?

I didn't know it meant no chapter for two weeks

uoftotaku

@wewacian:

I didn't know it meant no chapter for two weeks

16 characters of No0b…Welcome to AP Forums exile from OneManga / Mangahelpers / Narutofan

Coolnerd89

Wait… Narutofan was destroyed as well?!
We should throw a party!

Aohige_AP

@wewacian:

I didn't know it meant no chapter for two weeks

It doesn't.

Since you're still confused, let me give you a massive hint.

@madmanricky:

next chapter is to be released 8/23/2010 in japan

Dryish

Aohigee~~
No need to be that harsh to the new guy. We've all been newbies at some point.

And wewacian, the next chapter is coming out next week, probably the 18th or the 19th day.

Sea

@Dryish:

Aohigee~~
No need to be that harsh to the new guy. We've all been newbies at some point.

Yes, I was worse.
Still better than a lot of Vietnamese readers who don't know a jack about how spoilers come to exist, nor do they know the existence of 4chan, 2chan.

Wait… Narutofan was destroyed as well?!
We should throw a party!

Narutofan being down may not be a good thing when the fugitives there immigrate to AP.

JERK DISEASE

If Narutofan ever went down we would need to allow the mods to give me banning powers for at least a month in order to avoid becoming a shitty forum overnight.

mpz777

@Hnikarr:

For his life? Well, I'd say more for his manliness… and maybe for a part of his body... :ninja:

I meant it more in a figure of speech way. I was originally going to say "fight of his life", but that didn't sound quite right to me since the fight of his life would probably be sometime down the road.
But hey, ironically, in a way "fight for his life" is kind of true, since lovin' the ladies is 98.72% of Sanji's reason for living.

SGRaaize

@IceBorg:

I have friends that do that.
Derp derp.

Kill them as soon as possible :ninja:
And no, I never say "Derp", its exclusive to the internet and SMS's

Tsukishima

@ultimateclima:

And I don't mean this to be a "is Bonney strong" argument, but I'm more curious as to whether her initial bounty was issued like Robin's bounty was initially issued.

Probably, but you shouldn't neglect the fact she was also a captain whereas Robin wasn't. She is probably weak compared to the other SN. I think her bounty is so high due to her importance for the WG, but also due to her crew and the crimes she commited as a pirate.

Narutofan down may not be a good thing when the fugitives there immigrate to AP.

That would be really interesting.

FireFistLuffy

@Sea:

Yes, I was worse.
Still better than a lot of Vietnamese readers who don't know a jack about how spoilers come to exist, nor do they know the existence of 4chan, 2chan.

Narutofan dwon may not be a good thing when the fugitives there immigrate to AP.

Yea how could you not know how spoilers come to exist!? Anyone who been to sniper island knows this!

isrnick

About Narutofan, I just entered the site and it seems to be normal, no signal of it going down, yet…

@wewacian:

I didn't know it meant no chapter for two weeks

@Dryish:

And wewacian, the next chapter is coming out next week, probably the 18th or the 19th day.

Yeah, Dryish answered it, but just to explain better in case you still didn't understand, we get the manga in the internet about 5 days before the official release in Japan.

JERK DISEASE

I hope it goes down. It's worse then gaia.

SGRaaize

No it isn't…
No, it fucking isn't, JERK

Sea

@FireFistLuffy:

Yea how could you not know how spoilers come to exist!? Anyone who been to sniper island knows this!

I know you are joking but I should inform a bit.
Vietnamese readers read the Vietnamese scanlation, translated from the English version. They don't care how people do it. They just discuss the manga. They don't even know that Jump's released on Monday in Japan. Just like the girl who commented on Kubo's Twitter and thus result in the end of Raw Paradise.

The only reason I know about this illegal spoiler business is thank to browsing this forum (and I am the only active Vietnamese here)

If Jerk Disease understands Vietnamese and visit a manga forum there, I am afraid that he would call most of them retarded.

MagneticMonkey

At NF they neg you for telling the truth. Telling someone how retarded his post is (and why) brings you more problems than it solves. Obviously because there are way too many retards there. It's a mess.

SGRaaize

Far worse in Gaia
Faaaaaaaar woooooooooorse in Gaia
This is not discussable, I'm sorry, but it isn't

FireFistLuffy

@Sea:

I know you are joking but I should inform a bit.
Vietnamese readers read the Vietnamese scanlation, translated from the English version. They don't care how people do it. They just discuss the manga. They don't even know that Jump's released on Monday in Japan. Just like the girl who commented on Kubo's Twitter and thus result in the end of Raw Paradise.

The only reason I know about this illegal spoiler business is thank to browsing this forum (and I am the only active Vietnamese here)

If Jerk Disease understands Vietnamese and visit a manga forum there, I am afraid that he would call most of them retarded.

Yea was joking but thanks for informing me on that, I knew about regular spoilers but didn't know that about the Vietnamese one piece manga. That sucks like a worse case of telephone for their translation. If the english version your mentioning is molokadin's.

Sea

@FireFistLuffy:

Yea was joking but thanks for informing me on that, I knew about regular spoilers but didn't know that about the Vietnamese one piece manga. That sucks like a worse case of telephone for their translation. If the english version your mentioning is molokadin's.

Only I and my group know about Stephen's and Aohige's translations. The rest just use One manga or mangastream (Sleepyfan's translations suck too) version. Some might know about Cnett though (because I told them). Thank to that I made the best translation (but I stopped translating for them). The Vietnamese official translation also sucks because the (supposed to be professional) translator isn't One Piece fan. They called Vivi empress instead of princess (which is retarded as hell).

FireFistLuffy

@Sea:

Only I and my group know about Stephen's and Aohige's translations. The rest just use One manga or mangastream (Sleepyfan's translations suck too) version. Some might know about Cnett though (because I told them). Thank to that I made the best translation (but I stopped translating for them). The Vietnamese official translation also sucks because the (supposed to be professional) translator isn't One Piece fan. They called Vivi empress instead of princess (which is retarded as hell).

The same could be said about Molokidan the translator mangastream uses for their translations. I didn't mean I know the in's and out of what's behind the Aohige spoilers just know were to go to find good translation usually on the spoiler threads. And I think you was the one that mentioned cnet128 before probably how I found out about him. Big thank you for this info or else I be stuck with molokidan's crap.

Supernademan

Is there a chapter this week?

Old_King

@Supernademan:

Is there a chapter this week?

If there's not a chapter this week, Im gonna pissed like a m f'er… Needs my weekly manga fix LOL

Crossword

@Supernademan:

Is there a chapter this week?

Read the thread, for crying out loud! It's been answered! Multiple times!

Renegadesoul

NO JUMP THE WEEK OF THE 9TH~13TH
Most of you should know already, but for those who don't, there will be no chapter or spoilers next week. For those who are interested, this week's chapter (595) was released in issue #36-37 of JUMP; the '36-37' means the issue covers two weeks instead of one, and is therefore deceitfully named a double issue… the deceit being we don't receive double the content. In a typical year we receive four double issues: two back to back in December/January for the holiday and new year, one in April for Golden Week, and I believe the last one in August is for the Obon Festival. Of those four, only the New Year issue and the Golden Week issue have early spoiler leaks, so don't get your hopes up about spoilers still coming out next week. Yes, that includes you overly excitable member #9042A who will undoubtedly create a spoiler thread next week thinking the fakes are real.

You can look forward to spoilers coming out on or around the 17th.

by Brennen.exe

READ IT OR HIS GONNA KILL YOU BY FIRE. That's gonna hurt. Seriously, that hurts.

Darkstorm

Don't you guys know how difficult reading is.

Robby

There, I just made a NEW THREAD, ALL IN CAPITALS, and stickied it so it should appear right next to this one on the main page. Hopefully that'll stem the spoiler questions some.

While it would be amusing to say that from here on out, you all have my permission to lie to the people that ask the question and say "Oda's taking a vacation, no OP for 2 months" or something… I'll have to discourage that. Just rough out the question and try not to get too annoyed by it. If it gets too ridiculous and out of hand, we'll just close this thread up. Hopefully it won't come to that.

Gonna be a looong week.

Carry on.

Supernademan

Well not trying to be an internet douche there is 44 pages of post to wade through and most of which is just complaining and discussion. But thanks anyway…

JERK DISEASE

@SGRaaize:

Far worse in Gaia
Faaaaaaaar woooooooooorse in Gaia
This is not discussable, I'm sorry, but it isn't

It is though.
Gaia is free, horrible but free.
Narutofan has extremely strict and petty mods all the fuck over the place. Imagine people like CaptainUsopp and MiniLuffy being modded.

Locks

@Supernademan:

Well not trying to be an internet douche there is 44 pages of post to wade through and most of which is just complaining and discussion. But thanks anyway…

It's on the previous page i believe. Good idea to look at the last several pages in threads So ya know what's being talked about and what not.. Also might find answers to questions you have.

Robby

@Supernademan:

Well not trying to be an internet douche there is 44 pages of post to wade through and most of which is just complaining and discussion. But thanks anyway…

Its also in the very first post in this thread, and the spoiler discussion of this chapter, in the spoiler news thread, and a dozen other places, including several times in the last several pages.

SGRaaize

@JERK:

It is though.
Gaia is free, horrible but free.
Narutofan has extremely strict and petty mods all the fuck over the place. Imagine people like CaptainUsopp and MiniLuffy being modded.

This is not discussable
As a guy who searched for the worst of Gaia and as a guy who searched for the worst of NarutoFans, It shocks me how anyone would think that Gaia is better than NarutoFan, or better than any other forum, for that matter

Both NarutoFan and Crunchyroll are far superior

Aohige_AP

To be honest with you, whenever Jump takes a holiday break and do a double issue, they sometimes print the next magazine a little early and once in a blue moon those gets leaked out a few days early, making the wait a little shorter than 2 weeks.
But you can't really count on that to happen.

chlj

Well, we can't count on that, but it still helps!! I guess everything must have a break once in a while, but it seems like years will pass before the next chapter comes out. Especially with everything that's happening.
(Sorry, I'm still a little noob in the One Piece world, so please excuse any mistakes I might make and I'd really love if you'd correct me.)

Zach Logan

@robbybedfart:

Its also in the very first post in this thread, and the spoiler discussion of this chapter, in the spoiler news thread, and a dozen other places, including several times in the last several pages.

Yeah, I posted that there in bold for a reason…:getlost:

flandrian15

(Sorry, I'm still a little noob in the One Piece world, so please excuse any mistakes I might make and I'd really love if you'd correct me.)

Putting this in your sig would not be a bad idea because some members will think you are a troll or something if you make even the tiniest mistake.

Zoom

@flandrian15:

Putting this in your sig would not be a bad idea because some members will think you are a troll or something if you make even the tiniest mistake.

Yea… Like me. I like bleach and Aizen and get called an troll for it.

Renegadesoul

I've been wondering since there is no regular JUMP chapters this week.

Can the translators do the JUMP ONE SHOTS instead?

A member has links to the raws.

@Adamant:

Ikkyu Hanasaka
Shunkan X Heroism
Chrono Mansion

piratemarimo

Well, since One Piece is on break, I wonder what I should read now? what else is good these days…

Also, I'm sure this was brought up, but Apoo seem really weak in this chapter. is anyone else disappointed or is that just me? He has such a neat devil fruit, but it's just confusing as to how he's got a high bounty when running away is virtually the only thing he's been doing. although I suppose someone's got to be the comic relief guy (at least I hope that's all it is).

chlj

@flandrian15:

Putting this in your sig would not be a bad idea because some members will think you are a troll or something if you make even the tiniest mistake.

Thank you very much!! I'll try my best not to be a bother to everyone :happy:

@piratemarimo:

Well, since One Piece is on break, I wonder what I should read now? what else is good these days… Also, I'm sure this was brought up, but Apoo seem really weak in this chapter. is anyone else disappointed or is that just me? He has such a neat devil fruit, but it's just confusing as to how he's got a high bounty when running away is virtually the only thing he's been doing. although I suppose someone's got to be the comic relief guy (at least I hope that's all it is).

I'd recommend Hatenkou Yuugi / Dazzle, but it's completely different from One Piece.
Maybe Oda is just saving his powers for a later epic battle!!

Sabo

@piratemarimo:

Also, I'm sure this was brought up, but Apoo seem really weak in this chapter. is anyone else disappointed or is that just me? He has such a neat devil fruit, but it's just confusing as to how he's got a high bounty when running away is virtually the only thing he's been doing. although I suppose someone's got to be the comic relief guy (at least I hope that's all it is).

I was also confused by this. Perhaps he did not want to risk harming his crew with his devil fruit?

Who knows…

SGRaaize

@Zoom:

Yea… Like me. I like bleach and Aizen and get called an troll for it.

Ignore them, you're free to believe whatever you want, Zehahahahahahahahahahahaha

piratemarimo

@chlj:

Thank you very much!! I'll try my best not to be a bother to everyone :happy:

I'd recommend Hatenkou Yuugi / Dazzle, but it's completely different from One Piece.
Maybe Oda is just saving his powers for a later epic battle!!

I'm sure you'll be fine. you're polite for one thing, which shows you aren't a troll.

I've never heard of that manga, but I guess I could check it out. What's it about?

@Sabo:

I was also confused by this. Perhaps he did not want to risk harming his crew with his devil fruit?

Who knows…

That kind of reminded me of that hilarious scene where Shoujo destroys his own ship with his singing. XD Or maybe those pigs-that-look-like-Swinub are actually a threat, which for all we know could be true (although that is ridiculous).

Stylishman

@Sabo:

I was also confused by this. Perhaps he did not want to risk harming his crew with his devil fruit?

Who knows…

He seems to be able to target his powers competently, he didnt hit anyone else when attacking kizaru, and several were nearby

chlj

@piratemarimo:

I'm sure you'll be fine. you're polite for one thing, which shows you aren't a troll.

I've never heard of that manga, but I guess I could check it out. What's it about?

Wouldn't it be against the rules to speak about it here? By the way, in my opinion the anime was better than the manga…
What do you guys mean by trolls?

--
I was reading Apoo's page on the wikia, and it says he's a passive guy... Maybe he just doesn't like to fight and that's why he always seems to run away...
I'd love to see Brook with his (Apoo) devil fruit

Old_King

@piratemarimo:

Well, since One Piece is on break, I wonder what I should read now? what else is good these days…

Also, I'm sure this was brought up, but Apoo seem really weak in this chapter. is anyone else disappointed or is that just me? He has such a neat devil fruit, but it's just confusing as to how he's got a high bounty when running away is virtually the only thing he's been doing. although I suppose someone's got to be the comic relief guy (at least I hope that's all it is).

Well, while you guys read different manga for this week of no One Piece. I think I'll go and get ready for the football season in my spare time. Hmmm… Uh does anyone know why the spoilers always take so long if it comes out on monday, why do I have to wait till Wednesday usually for my spoiler satisfaction???