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Akaushi means Red Cow.
Ahhhh…...yes, now I see.
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I mean that that's an AMAZING coincidence and it's all but solidified him as the character.Anything could still happen but those are a LOT of coincidences stacking up.
Yeah Greg, maybe this is another coincidence,I heard Yoshio Harada’s Aramaki is strongly reminiscent of Toshiro Mifune's Kikuchiyo from Seven Samurai, and Mifune is the actor famously speculated to be Green Bull.
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is it true Oda's editor said the wano arc would begin in October?
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is it true Oda's editor said the wano arc would begin in October?
Nah. There is a event in Kyoto from October 7 to 22 titled “One Piece 20th x KYOTO Kyoto Straw Travel Journal: Another Country of Wano” and people assume Wa No will start in October since the event takes place then.
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Are the regular entries back up on the site again?
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Nah. There is a event in Kyoto from October 7 to 22 titled “One Piece 20th x KYOTO Kyoto Straw Travel Journal: Another Country of Wano” and people assume Wa No will start in October since the event takes place then.
Maybe there will be a brief tease with Zoro and the rest in Wano before Luffy actually goes there similar to how we got a glimpse of Sanji and the others on Zou even before Luffy sailed out of Dressrosa. That might explain the small picture that shows Zoro instead of Lufft in Wano.
Because unless the Reverie is one chapter followed by a cliffhanger and will be continued after Wano, I don't see it starting let alone ending before October.https://twitter.com/brain_yz 
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Greg any chance your on the podcast next time since the cake theory is confirmed pretty much?
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Maybe there will be a brief tease with Zoro and the rest in Wano before Luffy actually goes there similar to how we got a glimpse of Sanji and the others on Zou even before Luffy sailed out of Dressrosa. That might explain the small picture that shows Zoro instead of Lufft in Wano.
Because unless the Reverie is one chapter followed by a cliffhanger and will be continued after Wano, I don't see it starting let alone ending before October.Personally i do not even see it starting this year. Like someone previously mentioned, we more or less have 12 chapters left now in this year that have to deal with BM´s disease, BM´s past, the BM Pirates attacking the Strawhats, the other group attacking Capone, yet another group attacking the Vinsmokes, the cake being baked and served and the Strawhats´ escape/departure from WCI.
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Greg, do you think that the internet backlash, here, and especially on OJ, to the cake theory coming true would have been as bad if you had never made the theory? I find it hard to imagine, myself, but some of these fans are outrageous.
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Greg, do you think that the internet backlash, here, and especially on OJ, to the cake theory coming true would have been as bad if you had never made the theory? I find it hard to imagine, myself, but some of these fans are outrageous.
We would still be processing the idea rather than having discussed it at lenght so probably not.
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Greg, do you think that the internet backlash, here, and especially on OJ, to the cake theory coming true would have been as bad if you had never made the theory? I find it hard to imagine, myself, but some of these fans are outrageous.
Said posters would still be pissed about "NOT ENUFF FIGHTIN!".
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Greg, do you think that the internet backlash, here, and especially on OJ, to the cake theory coming true would have been as bad if you had never made the theory? I find it hard to imagine, myself, but some of these fans are outrageous.
People love proving others wrong so yeah it would be that bad. Same with people who predict things themselves that they think its the "obvious" way to go and then complain that it happens, not because it was bad, but because it was obvious/logical, which 20 chapters later turns into "it was bad, this arc sucks!".
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Greg, do you think that the internet backlash, here, and especially on OJ, to the cake theory coming true would have been as bad if you had never made the theory? I find it hard to imagine, myself, but some of these fans are outrageous.
Valid question, I believe so!
As Amigo suggested, those same people would be ticked that there isn't fighting and/or that Mom isn't getting punished.
They're the type of individuals who see the world in black and white and don't like to see the greys.
Just because Luffy sees everything in black and white doesn't mean Oda or his story can't acknowledge that those 'greys' exist and I firmly believe that's where Mom sits.
They are simply, as you suggested, outrageous and cannot stand that their own ideas, which I've been trying to tell them calmly for months, are wrong.
What you're seeing are people who read One Piece but fail to comprehend how it is made.
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Valid question, I believe so!
As Amigo suggested, those same people would be ticked that there isn't fighting and/or that Mom isn't getting punished.
They're the type of individuals who see the world in black and white and don't like to see the greys.
Just because Luffy sees everything in black and white doesn't mean Oda or his story can't acknowledge that those 'greys' exist and I firmly believe that's where Mom sits.
They are simply, as you suggested, outrageous and cannot stand that their own ideas, which I've been trying to tell them calmly for months, are wrong.
What you're seeing are people who read One Piece but fail to comprehend how it is made.
I really don't get people bitching about "no punishment" at this point. Very few villains actually suffer long-term punishments, often for committing the most unforgivable crime is killing parent of Luffy's friends. In OP the punishment from Luffy is theoretically twofold: crushing of one's dream and an ass whooping. But Enel, a genocidal maniac, only got the.latter, less harsh one, Hancock got none because sad past (she'd probably welcome the ass whooping though :ninja:). Buggy and Wapol only barely (if even) reformed, and they still got everything they dreamed of and more after initial hindrance etc. etc. And now look at Big Mom - before this arc ends, she'll likely find out her adored role model, around whom she based last 62 years of her live, never existed, SHs fooled her like Roger once did with the poneglyph, she will never be a pirate queen. No matter what happens later, it's not less of a punishment than many villains got.
Generally Oda's treatment of villains is something that can be criticized, especially that the story is directed at kids, but bitching about this example is like bitching about every single fake death, kinda silly as you should be aware that's how things work around here.
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It's made with paper and ink right ?
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Besides, big mom has the worst punishment possible in store for her, finding out the truth about what happened to mother Carmel.
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This is me the past 6 months:
There are many ways to defeat an enemy.
"NO THERE AREN'T!"
Yes, yes in fact there are. Even One Piece has proved this and it will continue to.
"LUFFY NEEDS TO PHYSICALLY BEAT BIG MOM HARD!"
Well, if he did that he would be considered on the same level as a Yonkou. That is to say the same level as Shanks. If Luffy is on the same level as Shanks it completely messes with our expectations for Luffy for the rest of the series.
"NO IT WOULDN'T!"
Yes, yes in fact it would. There's no more vertical growth beyond that aside from Pirate King on the OP world Pirate Level Tree. This removes the shock of a high bounty but still relatively fresh pirate taking out Kaidou.
In all likelihood, Luffy will not straight-up beat Kaidou by himself. That would be absurd. It would make Luffy the strongest being in the world by default and that, again, simply isn't interesting.
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The exact same people whining about how Luffy isn't going to trounce Mom (and he will do JUST that in a very unique way this arc) would be complaining in two years about how Oda 'broke the power balance' when Luffy already beat a Yonkou but has a hard time with Kaidou.
It. Would. Happen.
Now those people are gnashing their teeth (despite my advice) but into two years they'll be cheering with excitement and I'll be sitting here smgdmfh.
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I guess my biggest concern with this is what becomes of Big Mom after this arc? Either she continues to be a threat after the Straw Hats escape or she basically pardons them of everything they've done to her since they entered the New World and lets go of her dreams. As long as she wants to be Pirate King and own Fishman Island, I feel that a physical confrontation with Luffy is inevitable somewhere down the line.
The cake theory is more than acceptable as a victory for right now given how inferior Luffy's group is to her, but I think that tying up so many conflicts (Poneglyphs, Sanji and the Germa 66, Jinbe and Fishman Island, Lola, Caesar, Bege, the wedding cake, Carmel's picture) with only that is incredibly simple and lets the crew off way too easy.
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I'm tempted to ask: why not accept the idea of Luffy not beating Big Mom in any way?
Also, could somebody link me to that controversial cake theory or tell me where it can be found? I'm really confused about this whole thing.
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I'm tempted to ask: why not accept the idea of Luffy not beating Big Mom in any way?
Also, could somebody link me to that controversial cake theory or tell me where it can be found? I'm really confused about this whole thing.
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I'm tempted to ask: why not accept the idea of Luffy not beating Big Mom in any way?
I think that the conflict has gone too far deep to just back out now. For Luffy and Big Mom to drop all tension between each other would mean she has to forgive him for destroying her cake, the portrait of Carmel, and saving Lola; and also give up ownership of Jinbe, Fishman Island, and any attempts on the Germa 66; and also accept that Luffy is walking away with her Poneglyph information. I just can't see what she could gain (aside from an absolutely amazing cake) for her to just ignore chapters upon chapters of conflict with Luffy.
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I think that the conflict has gone too far deep to just back out now. For Luffy and Big Mom to drop all tension between each other would mean she has to forgive him for destroying her cake, the portrait of Carmel, and saving Lola; and also give up ownership of Jinbe, Fishman Island, and any attempts on the Germa 66; and also accept that Luffy is walking away with her Poneglyph information. I just can't see what she could gain (aside from an absolutely amazing cake) for her to just ignore chapters upon chapters of conflict with Luffy.
I must have expressed myself wrong. What I mean is not that the conflict gets erased, but that Luffy manages to escape from it, momentarily. Therefore, the fight would be rescheduled for later.
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I guess my biggest concern with this is what becomes of Big Mom after this arc? (…)
The cake theory is more than acceptable as a victory for right now given how inferior Luffy's group is to her, but I think that tying up so many conflicts (Poneglyphs, Sanji and the Germa 66, Jinbe and Fishman Island, Lola, Caesar, Bege, the wedding cake, Carmel's picture) with only that is incredibly simple and lets the crew off way too easy.The way I see it, this is where Pudding's memory powers kick in. After the cake is successfully delivered and possible complications ensue, she can play a part in opening Big Mom's eyes on what became of Mother Carmel & the orphans - which radically changes her focus for a time. Or she manipulates the memory of key players in the Charlotte family / the whole island in order to lessen the Straw Hats' perceived responsibility in the events. With any luck their major offense - poneglyph imprint - will go unnoticed for a long while, as I doubt the only 2 witnesses will want to expose themselves to Linlin's wrath at the end of this particular day.
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I think that the conflict has gone too far deep to just back out now. For Luffy and Big Mom to drop all tension between each other would mean she has to forgive him for destroying her cake, the portrait of Carmel, and saving Lola; and also give up ownership of Jinbe, Fishman Island, and any attempts on the Germa 66; and also accept that Luffy is walking away with her Poneglyph information. I just can't see what she could gain (aside from an absolutely amazing cake) for her to just ignore chapters upon chapters of conflict with Luffy.
There are a couple of things to consider:
- The still possible thing that Pudding has altered some of Big Mom's memories.
- Big Mom having explained to her or realizing what happens during her temper tantrums (for example regarding her son) and her feeling regret because of this
- The whole situation gets some kind of resolution which without Luffy and the others wouldn't be possible, which makes Linlin in a strange way indebted towards them
- Pekoms who possibly has Mama's ear says a good word for our heroes
Big Mom could be some kind of morally-principled persons who acknowledges that she in a strange way "benefitted" from the Strawhat's interference and forgives them (even though the Strawhats would still conceal that they have copied the Road Poneglyph for example).
Or an escape scenario.In any event, the Strawhats will soon after this be completely in Wano, which is the territory of the world's strongest being. So even if Linlin was fulfilled with rage, would she really go up against kaido's and the Shogun's forces? The fact that they will be in Wano has the Strawhats being threatened by Kaido for sure, but ironically also protects them against Big Mom's (possible) rage.
As for what happens with Big Mom finally, I offer a theory that I and others had for some while: She will be taken out by Sakazuki's Marines, possibly in a scenario where the Marines are unleashed on the Gorosei's orders after Kaido falls and the balance of the three powers (that the Gorosei strive to maintain) is altered.
Kaido goes down by the Lufy-led alliance, Shank's is reserved for Blackbeard and the Marines were presented as being a stronger power after two years and Sakuzuki specifically relocated the location of the new headquarters to the New World, to quote the bartender at Sabaodys "to show the Yonko he means business". I guess we can assume such a foreshadowing quote will amount to something.
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Hi Greg, I want to ask your personal opinion about the line that was stated in the narration box of Kaido's introduction chapter that he NEVER lost a 1-on-1 fight ("In a One-on-one, always bet on Kaidou").
How would you interpret the foreshadowing of that line? That Luffy will team up with his friends to take down Kaidou together, JRPG-boss-fight style, or that Luffy will be the first ever who managed to defeat Kaidou in a one-on-one fight?
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Like what? Like sate the insatiable appetite of a raging Yonkou and saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of lives.
I fully agree with this portion. If the cake is supposed to play a major role in saving the day and be believable, we need to be shown that the whole country is in danger. That hasn´t happened yet, so I´m not sold.
After this one started, she was almost instantly redirected towards the SHs without a true showcase of collateral (civilian) damage and the SHs have managed to survive her pursuit so far. So the reason for Sanji to leave…felt like no reason at all. The situation was partially saved by Chiffon, which is the true heroine for me considering what she´s been through in her life and that she´s truly facing death here.
So what would have to happen now is a continuous island switch where BM is showcased to rampage through civilians so that her family is also forced to stall her beside just waiting (with their arms crossed) for Pudding´s cake (the family kind of believing the she of all people can help feels "weird" considering her epic fail at the wedding ceremony).
I wish that the one glaring weakness of the BM pirates was the main reason for the SHs to escape. It seems like a big theme of the arc considering Sanji and his more than complicated relationship with his blood relatives, that being a "family" by blood but not functioning as one properly, mainly due to an abusing parent figures treating their children as tools (of war), can cause more harm than good when you need one another (in stark contrast to the SHs and how they cooperate). That would be a good enough reason for me if they failed to capture the SHs in the end.
It´s just my personal preference for the conclusion, BM "family" vs SH family, instead of foodgasm+deus ex memory alteration to make an egomaniac power abuser like BM somehow pardon the SHs.
So far, I am satisfied with her showcase of power and believe that the SHs currently do not have the strength to win by physically overpowering her. They have also done more than enough psychological damage so let´s see if them getting out of there alive will be reasonable (the less coincidental the better).
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Hi Greg, I want to ask your personal opinion about the line that was stated in the narration box of Kaido's introduction chapter that he NEVER lost a 1-on-1 fight ("In a One-on-one, always bet on Kaidou").
How would you interpret the foreshadowing of that line? That Luffy will team up with his friends to take down Kaidou together, JRPG-boss-fight style, or that Luffy will be the first ever who managed to defeat Kaidou in a one-on-one fight?
I've stated my theory (dunno if it was here or on the podcast) for how Kaido will be dealt with in addition to the theme of Wano and I'm gonna stick with that. It's in the ether.
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Any link to your Kaido theory?
Speaking broadly mine is that it will be a JRPG-boss-fight style battle with Luffy and lots of his allies as that's the only believable way to win, right?
! Which, of course, fails so that it boils down only Luffy fighting in the climax and at the end Luffy will be the first ever who managed to defeat Kaidou in a one-on-one fight.
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Any link to your Kaido theory?
Speaking broadly mine is that it will be a JRPG-boss-fight style battle with Luffy and lots of his allies as that's the way to win, right?
! Which, of course, fails so that it boils down only Luffy fighting in the climax and at the end Luffy will be the first ever who managed to defeat Kaidou in a one-on-one fight.
He believes it will be a team-up between Luffy, Momo, Marco, and Inurashi as a reference to the main heroes in Momotaro (Momotaro, Monkey, Dog, and Pheasant).
So yes, I guess JRPG boss style.
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That will be only one phase.
It will go:
First clash with luffy after a few people flopped against him. Luffy gets thrown into another island
Second clash with nightmare luffy, ends with kaido having to reveal his devil fruit, luffy gets ko
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Isn't the Momotaro reference already there since they're leaders of different parts of alliance? Theoretically Law is one too but, let's face it, he is basically Luffy's subordinate ever since he got beaten by Doflamingo.
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Isn't the Momotaro reference already there since they're leaders of different parts of alliance? Theoretically Law is one too but, let's face it, he is basically Luffy's subordinate ever since he got beaten by Doflamingo.
I see what you're suggesting! That's very interesting, I hadn't considered that.
Although I'd tweak that a bit you're saying that the:
Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai Alliance = Momotarou and representatives of each part stand for a Momotarou lead.
I'm of the belief that:
Momo (Momotarou), Luffy (Monkey), Wanda/Dogstorm (Dog), Marco/Kuzan (Pheasant)
stand for the roles but going by your observation it would suggest that:
Momo (Samurai/Momotarou), Luffy (Pirate/Monkey), Wanda/Dogstorm (Mink/Dog) AND….. UNKNOWN WANO NINJA (Ninja/Pheasant)
I like this idea very much! I still can't shake the feeling of Marco's involvement considering Catviper is looking for him and that the team must be able to fly/soar/climb in order to go toe-to-toe with Kaido, but a yet-unknown ninja could just as easily fill that role.
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This is me the past 6 months:
There are many ways to defeat an enemy.
"NO THERE AREN'T!"
Yes, yes in fact there are. Even One Piece has proved this and it will continue to.
"LUFFY NEEDS TO PHYSICALLY BEAT BIG MOM HARD!"
Well, if he did that he would be considered on the same level as a Yonkou. That is to say the same level as Shanks. If Luffy is on the same level as Shanks it completely messes with our expectations for Luffy for the rest of the series.
"NO IT WOULDN'T!"
Yes, yes in fact it would. There's no more vertical growth beyond that aside from Pirate King on the OP world Pirate Level Tree. This removes the shock of a high bounty but still relatively fresh pirate taking out Kaidou.
In all likelihood, Luffy will not straight-up beat Kaidou by himself. That would be absurd. It would make Luffy the strongest being in the world by default and that, again, simply isn't interesting.
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The exact same people whining about how Luffy isn't going to trounce Mom (and he will do JUST that in a very unique way this arc) would be complaining in two years about how Oda 'broke the power balance' when Luffy already beat a Yonkou but has a hard time with Kaidou.
It. Would. Happen.
Now those people are gnashing their teeth (despite my advice) but into two years they'll be cheering with excitement and I'll be sitting here smgdmfh.
People expect the yonkos to be omnipotent and all powerful gods basically, then whine when we see they are so hard ahead they cant be surpassed or have human flaws
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He believes it will be a team-up between Luffy, Momo, Marco, and Inurashi as a reference to the main heroes in Momotaro (Momotaro, Monkey, Dog, and Pheasant).
So yes, I guess JRPG boss style.
I really hope something like this happens. I agree with Greg's point that having Luffy surpass Yonkou status in Wano would feel premature.
That said, I don't think we have seen Oda let any character besides Luffy go toe-to-toe with an arc's final boss in the fight that ends up deciding it.
He's teased it before like we saw with Law + Luffy vs. Doffy but it always ends up with Luffy going one-on-one in the end.
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He's teased it before like we saw with Law + Luffy vs. Doffy but it always ends up with Luffy going one-on-one in the end.
Law got in a major crippling blow on Donfla before Luffy even started fighting him, and the citizens bought Luffy a ton of time while he was exhausted and out of power, and other people worked on stopping the bird cage, and Luffy had help from dozens of helpers to deal with all of Dofla's backup.
Yes, the main showcase was Luffy and Dofla one on one, but it's very easy to look at that and go "without help, Luffy would have been outclassed and dead."
Gaining allies and getting help IS one of Luffy's superpowers, but it's been a looooong time since he absolutely soloed the big boss on his own. Probably not since Lucchi on Water 7… and even then he needed Usop to inspire him and the spirit of Going Merry to save him at the end.
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The birdcage was a problem because of the citizens, not for Luffy himself, hence you got the G4 debacle and him rushing things.
And Oda pretty much made the point that Luffy was somewhat tired already after the collosseum and completely wrecked after he took Bellamy´s hits, at least visually comparable to Luffy during his fight against Lucci. And well, then you have DD and Luffy commenting on each other´s state of injury and fatigue.I don´t wanna turn it into a power level discussion or anything but it is obvious that the intended scenario was still a 1vs1, especially considering Law comments several times on it.
Regarding the fight against Kaidou, while it´s a no-brainer Oda will somehow parallel the story of Momatarou with the 3 animals, i do not think he will force it while sacrificing reasonable developments and logical progression.
Luffy is obvious, i can even see Marco who could practically take up his role of supporting Luffy in MF but neither Wanda nor Inuarashi make sense in that fight. Either you get an additional character to parallel the dog or, what i think might be more likely, Oda simply parallels the small boy having 3 allies and forgetting the animal parallel. -
I don´t wanna turn it into a power level discussion or anything but it is obvious that the intended scenario was still a 1vs1, especially considering Law comments several times on it.
I also do not wish to start a power level war, but no one has ever questioned Luffy beating Crocodile, yet if we treat this fight as one-on-one, he lost. Crocodile was merely unconscious, Luffy was dying because of poison. Same with Krieg. As I said, I don't care who would win in one-on-one fight between Doflamingo and Luffy, but just because characters call it Luffy's one-on-one victory, it doesn't mean it was.
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Heck, go back to Arlong. Luffy easily manhandled Arlong once they got serious, but if not for help from his friends his stupidity would have gotten him drowned with his feet embedded in concrete.
Luffy may do the heavy lifting in fights, but its incredibly rare that he does them entirely alone. I can't think of any big fights past East Blue where it was 100% Luffy winning and surviving entirely on his own.
Maybe Foxy? (But even there it was Foxy's own power and the Afro holding a mirror shard that won)
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… and the one who came up with afro was Usopp. So if you count Usopp's motivation speech in Lucci, I'd count this one too. Only fights won entirely by Luffy after Kuro were against small fries. Even against Wapol, Nami helped by stealing a key (come to think of it, Nami might have the biggest number of assists for Luffy; we have Buggy, Wapol, Enel and Cracker). And honestly, I don't really like it. "X saved Y,so he can continue fight Z" or "X saved Y, after he beat Z" are the laziest and most uncreative forms of "teamwork". Suff like Mr. 4 pair or Ors fight is the way to go if you want to do it.
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I also do not wish to start a power level war, but no one has ever questioned Luffy beating Crocodile, yet if we treat this fight as one-on-one, he lost. Crocodile was merely unconscious, Luffy was dying because of poison. Same with Krieg. As I said, I don't care who would win in one-on-one fight between Doflamingo and Luffy, but just because characters call it Luffy's one-on-one victory, it doesn't mean it was.
Yep, unconscious and forever crushed in prison. Victories are not only achieved by survival or death, Luffy preventing Crocodile from taking over the country was the victory.
And yep, it pretty much mean they were.
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Heck, go back to Arlong. Luffy easily manhandled Arlong once they got serious, but if not for help from his friends his stupidity would have gotten him drowned with his feet embedded in concrete.
Luffy may do the heavy lifting in fights, but its incredibly rare that he does them entirely alone. I can't think of any big fights past East Blue where it was 100% Luffy winning and surviving entirely on his own.
Maybe Foxy? (But even there it was Foxy's own power and the Afro holding a mirror shard that won)
Blueno, and well Lucci unless you consider Usopp screaming "not fighting alone".
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Yep, unconscious and forever crushed in prison. Victories are not only achieved by survival or death, Luffy preventing Crocodile from taking over the country was the victory.
It was victory, but not if you look at it as strict "one-on-one" battle, due to arrest also being an assist of others and Luffy being about to die. And Crocodile's defeat wasn't the most important thing in stopping him. rest of SHs defeated his men and together with Pell stopped bombing, the truth was about to be exposed due to Igaram and Kohza knowing it. Smoker (or luck if you want to look at it that way) was about to pour rain on the whole country, so he'd have a hard time doing anything alone. He'd lose either way.
Also, if Sanji didn't intervene, it'd be both Luffy and Krieg with their dreams crashed, it wasn't solo victory.
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Blueno, and well Lucci unless you consider Usopp screaming "not fighting alone".
Blueno wasn't a big boss fight. He doesn't count any more than Bellamy does.
And yes, Luffy did basically all of the fighting on Lucchi but completely failed to save Robin, that was on Usopp's sniping and the rest of the crew fighting the rest of CP9. And Luffy was ready to drop dead before Usopp inspired him and distracted Lucchi for moment.
But even not counting that, after fighting Lucchi, Luffy was exhausted and completely unable to move. There were countless marines in the area and a buster call bombardment about to go off and Luffy was 100% helpless. He needed the entire crew to hold off all the captains, and Robin to haul him out, and a dues ex machina recently sentient Going Merry driving itself to save him. He won that fight without much help but lost the actual battle.
Same with Crocodile. Luffy definitely won that fight but without pure luck to save him after the second round, or Robin to save him the third, he was dead, while Croc was only knocked out. Or Enel where Luffy was the only one doing damage, but still needed Nami to get him up the beanstalk and the giant gold ball to stop the lightning storm. Or Moria where he needed 100 shadows for a starting gambit, and then the crew's help to beat Oars… and won the match with literally half a second to spare. Had Moria just pulled back even a little or waited twenty minutes till daylight he would have easily won that.
Luffy does the punchy punches and knocks the big bads out, but he does not win entirely on his own against the big guys.
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Luffy is obvious, i can even see Marco who could practically take up his role of supporting Luffy in MF but neither Wanda nor Inuarashi make sense in that fight. Either you get an additional character to parallel the dog or, what i think might be more likely, Oda simply parallels the small boy having 3 allies and forgetting the animal parallel.
Of course Inuarashi isn't going to make sense with just the plot we have right now. But things can change in the dozens or even hundreds of chapters we have before the final fight, and Inuarashi's got potential given he's gonna be one of the minks' leaders in the final war.
It's like people saying there was no room to make a cake back when we were at the wedding and the pace was at breakneck speed, only for Oda to shift the situation to make the cake baking extremely viable.
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Lucchi
Please stop writing it Lucchi. It's Lucci. "cci" makes a ch sound. I'm sorry if this feels OCD, but your spelling of his name is grating my eyes. Lucchi would be read Lukki. It's just, no, stahp.
