I agree Dofla. No point in holding gruge over the deads.
Nothing say I'm an celestial asshole like lead bullets(he always carry that gun for important kills doesn't he?).
I agree Dofla. No point in holding gruge over the deads.
Nothing say I'm an celestial asshole like lead bullets(he always carry that gun for important kills doesn't he?).
Had a feeling Law would get incapacitated this chapter, how it happened was quite interesting however. I find it weird that Law seems to be able to rile Doflamingo but not the other way around.
He does seem to hit a nerve every time he mention Corazon stupidity or ruining Law.
I want to see how Toei is gonna handle that.
Bellamy has been useless since he first appeared, I don't know why Oda wants to put so much importance on him…he should die this time, at least there will be a reason to remember him...
Why is he useless? I think he will be useful in a FINAL COMBO ATTACK with LAW, Luffy and Bellawy to own Dofla…..of course it will be Kaido who will give the final blow to Dofla.
I can't wait for the moment Luffy, Law and Kid team up again and Luffy mocks them both for losing their arms
They'll just say "How's Shanks doing, heard fron him lately?"
I want to see how Toei is gonna handle that.
Depends if the wound will last. If Law will mend his arm after the fight, I think Toei will skip it completely
May I interrupt and point out things still not resolved in this saga, since Punk Hazard:
-Where Kuzan is headed?
-Who the brokers are, seen during Smiley broadcast?
-All of the fights on Dressrosa.
-Big Mom and what's up with Caesear, Chopper, Brook, Nami and Sanji?
-Mansherry and what's the deal with her?
-The destruction of the factory.
-CP0!!!!!!!!! The frick.
-And now: Law flickering frucking frik fricketing arm. -_- Don't know what to think about it since it could be reattached unless Oda goes "nope, we need more Shanks characters around".
After chapter 752 I thought we would end at 795 with that slow pacing, but I think I overshot it quite a bit. Still though, even after the fights, we got a lot more chapters to deal with before going to Kaido territory.
I want to see how Toei is gonna handle that.
Well they did show Oars getting his right leg cut of. So don't see any reason for them not to show Law arm getting his armcut off, might be watered down a bit like.
Haha Luffy used CoC on Doffla, so he let go of Bellamy :P
-And now: Law flickering frucking frik fricketing arm. -_- Don't know what to think about it since it could be reattached unless Oda goes "nope, we need more Shanks characters around".
Post that post in the NW thread(or the dressrosa one).
considering Law's power, how he gave the dudes in Dressrosa new limbs and how he fights, he is getting a new arm.
But damn, Is Bellamy stupid or what? I mean, sure i can kinda understand what he's saying… but after taking so much crap, and so much abuse he's like a wife thats get betean by a husband but still loves him. I can understand it, but that's fucked up :/
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Also that was pretty impressive what Law did, first hitting Doffla, then instantly attacking with all those parts of castle from all the sides. But still, Doffla was even more impressive. Stopped all that without much effort, dodged then even though Law teleported behind him he reacted and caught poor Law. if Luffy is to win 1-1 vs Doffla he must really push himself to the limits. Im kinda hoping for new attack.... maybe even gear? But that could be too much too ask for :p
May I interrupt and point out things still not resolved in this saga, since Punk Hazard:
-Where Kuzan is headed?
-Who the brokers are, seen during Smiley broadcast?
-All of the fights on Dressrosa.
-Big Mom and what's up with Caesear, Chopper, Brook, Nami and Sanji?
-Mansherry and what's the deal with her?
-The destruction of the factory.
-CP0!!!!!!!!! The frick.
-And now: Law flickering frucking frik fricketing arm. -_- Don't know what to think about it since it could be reattached unless Oda goes "nope, we need more Shanks characters around".After chapter 752 I thought we would end at 795 with that slow pacing, but I think I overshot it quite a bit. Still though, even after the fights, we got a lot more chapters to deal with before going to Kaido territory.
Don't be hasty.
@Thebomer93:
Well they did show Oars getting his right leg cut of. So don't see any reason for them not to show Law arm getting his armcut off, might be watered down a bit like.
Oars was a zombie.
hah, Bellamy you fool, but still i like that .
Luffy it's your move now, give me some epic heart shattering moment please .
If He Insists, He Slits. (Leave it to the Luffy, Law)
Don't be hasty.
Oars was a zombie.
Oars Jnr. was a living descendant of the original Oars that Moria used as a zombie.
He was the one that got the Doffy amputation treatment at Marineford.
He does seem to hit a nerve every time he mention Corazon stupidity or ruining Law.
To some degree, but one seems to piss off the other quite a bit more than the other way around. I'm curious if this arc will be over in 15 chapters, or whether it may take even longer. As previously stated, there's quite a few unresolved issues, though I suspect several of them will get transitioned into future arcs.
I'd be pretty interested to see the strength gap between Bellamy and Luffy if Bellamy used a more cagey approach, rather than presenting himself on a silver platter for a falcon punch.
Seems like he's not learned his lesson when it comes to using Spring Hopper against Luffy though.
…Silly bellamy.
I doubt that Luffy is going to go and do the "OHKO" again. I kind of get Bellamy's line of tougth.. but I'll wait till monday to give a better judgment.
I doubt that Luffy is going to go and do the "OHKO" again. I kind of get Bellamy's line of tougth.. but I'll wait till monday to give a better judgment.
Maybe but I would be so satisfied if he really did the same OHKO move to bring him down.
I'd be pretty interested to see the strength gap between Bellamy and Luffy if Bellamy used a more cagey approach, rather than presenting himself on a silver platter for a falcon punch.
Seems like he's not learned his lesson when it comes to using Spring Hopper against Luffy though.
…Silly bellamy.
Since Luffy can't punch him from fear of killing him, he may stand a chance.
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Oars was a zombie.
He is talking about Junior who wasn't.
@Miss:
Maybe but I would be so satisfied if he really did the same OHKO move to bring him down.
But its shallow thinking wanting another OHKO for Bellamy- there is close to no point in it. Back then it was used to crush Bellamy in many ways- beside showing that Luffy is far stronger.
Right now it would be just killing for killing while respecting Bellamys choices. Though Luffy finds them as idiotic as we do he probably(I might be wrong) doesnt consider killing off somebody who he called nakama few chapters ago and who he seen growing into better character.
Bellamy needs Doflamingo to be taken out for him so he can follow his dream of becoming great pirate on his own and not for somebody who doesnt even share his dream.
This is Horatio Nelson, commander of British fleet, who died in Battle of Trafaglar. He gave up his arm in fight against Spanish army; he defeated them, but gave up his own life in this fight.
source: http://www.onepiece.com.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?p=314349#314349
But its shallow thinking wanting another OHKO for Bellamy- there is close to no point in it. Back then it was used to crush Bellamy in many ways- beside showing that Luffy is far stronger.
Right now it would be just killing for killing while respecting Bellamys choices. Though Luffy finds them as idiotic as we do he probably(I might be wrong) doesnt consider killing off somebody who he called nakama few chapters ago and who he seen growing into better character.
Bellamy needs Doflamingo to be taken out for him so he can follow his dream of becoming great pirate on his own and not for somebody who doesnt even share his dream.
But if Luffy can't OHKO Bellamy this time, it just shows he doesn't have the conviction to face Doflamingo. He's going to have to do it, regardless of feelings.
http://s30.postimg.org/orsu3t6c1/250px_Horatio_Nelson1.jpg
This is Horatio Nelson, commander of British fleet, who died in Battle of Trafaglar. He gave up his arm in fight against Spanish army; he defeated them, but gave up his own life in this fight.
source: http://www.onepiece.com.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?p=314349#314349
So, Law will die? hmm
This somewhat relates to this post I posted just earlier. Originally it's not mine though. But this is actually really interesting point about the lost arm and the sacrifice, but Corazon kinda did that already.
http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=32320&page=373&p=3368092#post3368092
I think Bellamy will hit Doflamingo. If not then why did he turn into a crybaby when Doffy was controlling him. Anyother choice he ends up dead, or KO-ed till the end of the arc.
So, Doflamingo admitted that he is no match for Kaido and that Law should have sticked to the plan. It was clear from the beginning that Oda uses him as a royal hype tool for the Yonkou, but I didn't expect that he would let Doffy outright say it…
Still, the short fight choreography was ridiculously cool, can't wait to see how Doffy handles Luffy.
Don't get the sentiment behind wanting Bellamy to get another knock out like in Jaya. Back then, he was hated. Him and his crew were annoying as shit. Seeing that cocky shithead get slammed into the ground was among most gratifying moments of my life when it comes to fiction.
But Bellamy is a different person now. A character to be respected and pitied. Where's the fun in seeing him get slammed down again?
But yeah, I could see it happen in order to liberate him from his code of honour. Like a second christening, or whatever. Even if it would be repetitive as shit.
It's been a while, i didn't want to read all those Law fan boy's posts about Luffy being weak compared to Law, that stuff sickens me.
Finally! Finally! Thank you Oda. I'd love it if Law died in this arc, that'd make up for all the Law crap we had sit through. If it was a crushing defeat with Luffy showing off King Haki two years of training, best thing Ever!
I look forward to next week, this will give Luffy motivation he needs to kick Dof's but, your about to regret your actions buddy
http://s30.postimg.org/orsu3t6c1/250px_Horatio_Nelson1.jpg
This is Horatio Nelson, commander of British fleet, who died in Battle of Trafaglar. He gave up his arm in fight against Spanish army; he defeated them, but gave up his own life in this fight.
source: http://www.onepiece.com.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?p=314349#314349
Oh, right, the spanish theme of Dressrosa ! Damn, Oda…
Don't get the sentiment behind wanting Bellamy to get another knock out like in Jaya. Back then, he was hated. Him and his crew were annoying as shit. Seeing that cocky shithead get slammed into the ground was among most gratifying moments of my life when it comes to fiction.
But Bellamy is a different person now. A character to be respected and pitied. Where's the fun in seeing him get slammed down again?
But yeah, I could see it happen in order to liberate him from his code of honour. Like a second christening, or whatever. Even if it would be repetitive as shit.
He still hated and he have an annoying character.
He deserve another OHKO from Luffy but with him dead as a bonus IMO.
Love chapters like this liked the flashback but man and no break this was a classic oda break chapter. No matter how bad people say Dresrosa is to me it's one of the best arcs. I just think the anime is so close he can't be as detailed as he used to be he relies on the anime to fill in the blanks but when he is focused on 1 scene one word superb
So, Law will die? hmm
Actually he could. Think about it. The only purpose for Law in this story of One Piece is to explain the origin of Doffy and give insight into Kaido. That's it. Law does not have a goal to find One Piece, especially since Luffy is a D. and thinks he will be the one to be Pirate King. Law is there to aid Luffy, hence why he saved him in Marinefold. Law might sacrifice himself and that would not surprise me. We knw almost everything about Law and he does not have long term ambition like the Straw-Hats so him becoming a crew mate would not happen.
Actually he could. Think about it. The only purpose for Law in this story of One Piece is to explain the origin of Doffy and give insight into Kaido. That's it. Law does not have a goal to find One Piece, especially since Luffy is a D. and thinks he will be the one to be Pirate King. Law is there to aid Luffy, hence why he saved him in Marinefold. Law might sacrifice himself and that would not surprise me. We knw almost everything about Law and he does not have long term ambition like the Straw-Hats so him becoming a crew mate would not happen.
But what about his crew then?
So, Doflamingo admitted that he is no match for Kaido and that Law should have sticked to the plan. It was clear from the beginning that Oda uses him as a royal hype tool for the Yonkou, but I didn't expect that he would let Doffy outright say it…
Still, the short fight choreography was ridiculously cool, can't wait to see how Doffy handles Luffy.
True, But in in the next sentence Doffy states that there is "a million ways to get rid off someone you are no match for".
Kaidou for Oarz 2.0. Luffy, Law, X Drake, Moriah, Cavendish, Bartolomeo, Zoro, Sanji, Franky Shogun, Monster Chopper, Don Chinjao, Shogun of Wano, Kinemon, the Tournament Fighters, plus other SH allies versus Kaidou and his commanders.
But what about his crew then?
Honestly apart from Bepo, his crew is filled with uninteresting characters, and I am sure they will throw him a funeral or something.
He still hated and he have an annoying character.
He deserve another OHKO from Luffy but with him dead as a bonus IMO.
So why do YOU hate him?
And I think that Luffy being forced to kill him would be great for his character's growth, but chances of that happening are really low.
http://s30.postimg.org/orsu3t6c1/250px_Horatio_Nelson1.jpg
This is Horatio Nelson, commander of British fleet, who died in Battle of Trafaglar. He gave up his arm in fight against Spanish army; he defeated them, but gave up his own life in this fight.
source: http://www.onepiece.com.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?p=314349#314349
This is NOT OK! But it makes sense…
For the sake of defense (and hope), I don't think Luffy's going to let another person die in front of him. Not even Bellamy who's all but trying to do so. And as others have said, there's still Law's crew and whatever business is going on in Zou to take care of. Yes, this seems to be Law's main purpose, and he personally doesn't have anything else for a 'goal', but he has other potential purposes within the story just with that outlying factor.
Actually he could. Think about it. The only purpose for Law in this story of One Piece is to explain the origin of Doffy and give insight into Kaido. That's it. Law does not have a goal to find One Piece, especially since Luffy is a D. and thinks he will be the one to be Pirate King. Law is there to aid Luffy, hence why he saved him in Marinefold. Law might sacrifice himself and that would not surprise me. We knw almost everything about Law and he does not have long term ambition like the Straw-Hats so him becoming a crew mate would not happen.
Nah, Pre-TS he said that he wanted to find the OP post war, also Oda mentioned the national tresor that only Law's power can control it (yes, Law can die and someone else eat the DF), i don't believe that Oda will forgot this like other mangaka do.
Probably the next arc will be Kaido's, it's hard for me to image SH fight a yonko alone (they have other alias aside from Law but i don't think they are strong enough).
So why do YOU hate him?
And I think that Luffy being forced to kill him would be great for his character's growth, but chances of that happening are really low.
I don't hate him but i don't like him either. It's just that in this chapter he forced Luffy to make a hard decision.
Actually that will be might be good, if that happen.
i hope bellamy get his second ohko, then i'll like that ass*ole
Hopefully before the long break that happens at the end of December or whatever we'll finally see Doffy's eyes, which more or less likely will happen at the same time as Luffy damages Doffy without Law's help.
Bellamy is not going to die to Luffy's hand, that much we can be certain.
There are a few options:
1. Luffy talks sense into him, not likely in my opinion.
2. Luffy "beats" him, but just knocks him out, only to be there when he awakes after being tended too.
3. An outsider takes care of him
4. Doffy Kills him.
I am of the opinion that he will be saved and healed, in the process of which he starts to really admire Luffy.
This was a great action chapter. The fight between Dofla and Law looked ridiculously cool, all the perspectives and also particularly how the "spider web" was shown. It's just a really well drawn fight.
Law getting his arm cut off was in particular really brutal. I do hope it does have some kind of an further effect or consequence.
I was sort of indifferent towards Bellamy, like I'm with a lot of characters that I don't really like or care about, rather than hating him. But after this I like Bellamy. It's stupid (hell, Bellamy even says it's stupid), but it's in a way admirable.
The whole thing ends with Bellamy doing Spring Hopper, which also looks really cool.
About the length of the arc. It's long, but I don't feel it's dragging. The flashback was all really strong stuff and I WANT to have proper fights because so many of the enemies (and also colloseum fighters) have really fun personalities. It's so long already, but not boring or dragging to me. This chapter proves it. Once again, just a great action chapter.
Nah, Pre-TS he said that he wanted to find the OP post war, also Oda mentioned the national tresor that only Law's power can control it (yes, Law can die and someone else eat the DF), i don't believe that Oda will forgot this like other mangaka do.
Probably the next arc will be Kaido's, it's hard for me to image SH fight a yonko alone (they have other alias aside from Law but i don't think they are strong enough).
OH really (No sarcasm here)? I don't remember that part in Pre-TS, but whatever. Even if Law has that purpose I don't think his death will be useless, but as Kisoto just mentioned, Luffy would not let another person die in front of him, so it might indicate Law is actually gonna live.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Luffy try and knock Bellamy out with CoC.
True, But in in the next sentence Doffy states that there is "a million ways to get rid off someone you are no match for".
Yeah, this chapter sheds a new light on some of the things he said and did months ago. When he confronted Aokiji and claimed that he could kill Fujitora I thought it was just Oda trying his best to somewhat keep his reputation as the main villain intact (while at the same time hyping the endgame opponents), but now he seems much more credible.