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      Hello guys,Siranime here!Some of you of course would remeber my previous thread regarding the 7th Warlord.This thread however,unlike the previous one would be more theory than wild speculation.One thing I've got to mention is that this theory is entirely my ceation.So if you'ce seen similar theories,it means that others have arrived to the same conclusion as me.So let's begin!

      First of all,I'd like to point out that half of the Yonko of the previous generation seem to somehow be related to the four Mythical Beasts of the Far East.Those beasts are the Seiryu(Azure Dragon),Suzaku(Vermilion Phoenix),Byakko(White Tiger) and Genbu(the Black Tortoise).
      So you might ask how could this be related to the Yonko?

      Firstly,someone has Phoenix powers AND is related to one of the Yonko.It's this guy

      While he is mostly blue,if I'm not mistaken the yellow part is more VERMILLION in the manga.He is the first mate of a previous generation Yonko-of Whitebeard!While many people do not know it,the Suzaku also represents a cardinal direction-South.HEnce I believe that Whitebeard,Marco come from the SOUTH BLUE(or at least that's where the crew was initially formed).

      2nd:Genbu,the black tortoise.
      So is there actually a CONFIRMED Yonko member that has a Zoan and can transform into a Black Tortoise?The answer is yes and it is this guy:


      Moreover,you should notice that it is not exactly entirely black,similarly to how Marco is not entirely Vermillion.He is a crewmember of Big Mom.The Black Tortoise represents a cardinal direction as well forever:North.Hence I believe that Big Mom's crew comes from the North Blue.

      But what about Shanks?
      If you remember the meeting between Shanks and Whitebeard,Shanks mentioned that he comes from the West Blue.
      ^Something that the Wikia confirms in the Shanks page,on the "History"part.
      So what is the beast that signifies the direction of west?That would be Byakko,the White tiger.

      But who would have the White Tiger Mytical Zoan in Shanks's crew?I believe this guy:

      Also check this out:

      Barely on the far right you can see someone with feline characteristics.I believe that is Rickstar in his Hybrid Zoan form!Don't forget that he's a Rookie.He has a 94,000,000 Berries bounty.He was made fun of both Shanks and Whitebeard.He could rely heavily on his Devil Fruit and he may actually be the only Devil Fruit user in Shanks's crew.

      Last but not least-Seiryu the Blue Dragon that can control the weather and represents the East.According to the logic so far,the older Yonko have a crewmember with those Zoan powers.The only one remaining is Kaido.Hence I predict that someone in Kaido's crew has the Seiryu Devil Fruit.And that Kaido actually comes from the EAST BLUE!
      KAIDO
      According to this theory he comes from the East Blue.But wouldn't a weather controlling Dragon Devil Fruit be in his possession,since it sounds ridiculously powerful?I don't believe so and here is my evidence:
      *The Yonko captains so far were not the ones who had those Mythical Beasts Devil Fruits.It was a crewmember.Hence a crewmember would have the Dragon fruit.I believe it will be the first mate adn,ultimately,Zoro's opponent.
      -Zoro has been depicted as a Dragon in various media.
      -"Santoryu" has"Ryu" inside it,which can mean DRAGON.
      -Tatsu Maki translates to Dragon Twister.
      -He defeated Ryuma(Pay attention,the "Ryu" pops up again),who killed a dragon!
      -He killed the artificial dragon in Punk Hazard.
      -Hence Zoro would fight that Dragon Fruit user.

      But what would Kaido's fruit be?Two possibilities:
      What animal is refered to as "King of the beasts" in our world's tradition?THE LION.
      I beliece that Kaido has a lion Devil fruit.It can be an ordinary lion,a mythical lion(like the Nemean lion that had an impenetrable armor fur)or a beast that is part lion(Chimaera or some other creature for example).Also there are bound to be many divine lions in our world's tradition or to some religion.
      -It doesn't have to be an incredibly powerful or a mythical Zoan however.Kaido is refered to as"The strongest creature in the World",not "He who has the most powerful Zoan".Remember that the future Pirate King is the user of the Gomu-Gomu,which is definitely not the most powerful Paramecia.
      -The lion Fruit would also represent Kaido as the leader.He the leader-king and his army of animals(The Smile users).

      2nd possibility:An animal that has to do with cold.
      Since the Winter island that X Drake landed on is a personal favourite of his(I believe the Lion one,but this one is good to be mentiones as well).

      Let's return to the "Kaido comes from the East Blue" part.It would actually make sense in various ways:
      -A current Yonko that belongs to a previous generation of pirates THAT COMES FROM EAST BLUE VS a rising legend of the new generation THAT COMES FROM EAST BLUE(Luffy).
      -The "generation theme is important:

      More obvious to the anime,where Crocodile clearly says"You're just a rookie pirate that has come out of nowhere.Do you know who I am"He was a member of a previous generation of piracy,a well-known one too and a Warlord.
      *Also remeber that Big Mom said:

      Middle panel.Kaido would be largely unaware of Luffy,similarly to how Big Mom was.In the anime the line goes"I remember your name NOW.'

      What about his background?
      So what is a place in East Blue that's an animal paradise or where starnge and quirky animals live.Yes it is this place:

      *So where am I getting at?I believe that is Kaido's HOME ISLAND!He somehow attained high intelligence and left the island to become a pirate.Sounds strange?The series we love is full of strange!It is the only trully strange place in East Blue and would be fitting for Kaido's background.Plus that way everything is connected together and we know that Oda loves Call backs and Foreshadowings.
      *Kaido could quite possibly not be an animal at all.Yeah I know that he has been reffered to as "The Strongest Creature alive".But what if that refers to the fact that he's the strongest Zoan,instead of the strongest animal per se?He doesn't necessarily have the strongest Zoan,but he's the best Zoan user.What if he's a human?What if he's the CAPTAIN OF GAIMON'S CREW?Or the pirate that took the treasure from the chests Gaimon has been guarding for so many years all alone,the chests up the hill that were empty,before Gaimon's crew arrived?Think about those possibilities.

      Don't forget to mention your opinion about all these.

      P.S. I accidentally wrote "Yonkos" on the title instead of "Yonko".Please don't be too harsh about it!
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      To me he looks more human than animal.

      In violently vociferating you violate your virility with vacuous vanity, vanguard of vileness. I visit my vengeance by vindictively vacating my vapours on your visage.

      Originally posted by UssopSpell.

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        That's not Rockstar in feline form, that's one of those weird looking humans. Same type as Squardo.

        I'll probably write more when I have the time.

        Originally Posted by Outerspec

        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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          I believe that Kaido has Sea Monster devil fruit, which doesn't have the water weakness. That'd be the strongest Zoan type.
          Also, nice theory, I like it.

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            @Siranime:

            What about his background?
            So what is a place in East Blue that's an animal paradise or where starnge and quirky animals live.Yes it is this place:
            http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130125193013/onepiece/images/5/5d/Island_of_Rare_Animals_Infobox.png
            *So where am I getting at?I believe that is Kaido's HOME ISLAND!He somehow attained high intelligence and left the island to become a pirate.Sounds strange?The series we love is full of strange!

            It's full of good strange, that sounds stupid strange. REALLY stupid strange.

            would be fitting for Kaido's background.

            No a gag island that Oda rushed by in one chapter would not be a fitting place for a Yonkou background.

            *Kaido could quite possibly not be an animal at all.Yeah I know that he has been reffered to as "The Strongest Creature alive".But what if that refers to the fact that he's the strongest Zoan,instead of the strongest animal per se?He doesn't necessarily have the strongest Zoan,but he's the best Zoan user.What if he's a human?What if he's the CAPTAIN OF GAIMON'S CREW?Or the pirate that took the treasure from the chests Gaimon has been guarding for so many years all alone,the chests up the hill that were empty,before Gaimon's crew arrived?Think about those possibilities.

            I see that you think that callbacks without rhyme or reason or dramatic value are just good because they're callbacks. And not because they're in any way satisfactory.

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              @Ktost:

              I believe that Kaido has Sea Monster devil fruit, which doesn't have the water weakness. That'd be the strongest Zoan type.
              Also, nice theory, I like it.

              Or this could possibly one of the stupidest fruit anyone could possibly obtain (or just..a fish fruit in general is just plain stupid)…considering how there is a guy with a swim swim fruit that probably wouldn't be able to SWIM in water even with the capacity to "swim" through things.

              So..yeah no. If anything, Oda has been very consistent with the swimming rule when it comes to fruits.

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                So, in summary, Gaimon is Kaido. Gotcha.

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                  Dolphins, Eskimos, who cares>? It's all a bunch of tree hugging hippie crap!

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                    I love how gung ho everyone is about destroying the simplistic nicely isolated parts of East Blue, and massively shrinking OP's world in the process.
                    Great ideas everyone.
                    Next let's reveal that Helmeppo's dogs that Zoro killed have been ressurrected by Moria and have become Kaidou's vicious deadly second in commands who will reveal the true history to us, but will lose in an epic island destroying duel with the fishmonger from Luffy's town, who has since become Green Bull since last we saw him.

                    Thank god Oda is a good writer.

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                      …so Chouchou for mysterious 7th Shichibukai anyone?

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                        The only way the OP would be acceptable was if it was totally played for laughs, and Kaidou was some sort of retarded Octopus with squirrel parts or something that Luffy kept callingthe wrong base animal and getting him mad.

                        Somehow I do not think this was the way the OP was intending it though!

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                          Hello guys,Siranime here!Some of you of course would remeber my previous thread regarding the 7th Warlord.This thread however,unlike the previous one would be more theory than wild speculation.One thing I've got to mention is that this theory is entirely my ceation.So if you'ce seen similar theories,it means that others have arrived to the same conclusion as me.So let's begin!

                          First of all,I'd like to point out that half of the Yonko of the previous generation seem to somehow be related to the four Mythical Beasts of the Far East.Those beasts are the Seiryu(Azure Dragon),Suzaku(Vermilion Phoenix),Byakko(White Tiger) and Genbu(the Black Tortoise).
                          So you might ask how could this be related to the Yonko?

                          Firstly,someone has Phoenix powers AND is related to one of the Yonko.It's this guy
                          http://static.tumblr.com/e7sqaon/pmUmbglhe/marco_phoenix.png

                          While he is mostly blue,if I'm not mistaken the yellow part is more VERMILLION in the manga.He is the first mate of a previous generation Yonko-of Whitebeard!While many people do not know it,the Suzaku also represents a cardinal direction-South.HEnce I believe that Whitebeard,Marco come from the SOUTH BLUE(or at least that's where the crew was initially formed).

                          2nd:Genbu,the black tortoise.
                          So is there actually a CONFIRMED Yonko member that has a Zoan and can transform into a Black Tortoise?The answer is yes and it is this guy:
                          http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121111221728/onepiece/de/images/6/6e/Pekoms_auf_der_Fischmenscheninsel.jpg
                          http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120111172439/onepiece/pt/images/2/2e/212px-PekomsDevilFruit.jpg
                          Moreover,you should notice that it is not exactly entirely black,similarly to how Marco is not entirely Vermillion.He is a crewmember of Big Mom.The Black Tortoise represents a cardinal direction as well forever:North.Hence I believe that Big Mom's crew comes from the North Blue.

                          But what about Shanks?
                          If you remember the meeting between Shanks and Whitebeard,Shanks mentioned that he comes from the West Blue.
                          ^Something that the Wikia confirms in the Shanks page,on the "History"part.
                          So what is the beast that signifies the direction of west?That would be Byakko,the White tiger.

                          But who would have the White Tiger Mytical Zoan in Shanks's crew?I believe this guy:
                          http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130128022058/onepiece/images/8/8c/Rockstar_Anime_Infobox.png

                          Also check this out:
                          http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3TSH75HYkuA/TnIzZQ6VDqI/AAAAAAAADro/hzFiUEuv2ec/s1600/shanks-crew.jpg

                          Barely on the far right you can see someone with feline characteristics.I believe that is Rickstar in his Hybrid Zoan form!Don't forget that he's a Rookie.He has a 94,000,000 Berries bounty.He was made fun of both Shanks and Whitebeard.He could rely heavily on his Devil Fruit and he may actually be the only Devil Fruit user in Shanks's crew.

                          Last but not least-Seiryu the Blue Dragon that can control the weather and represents the East.According to the logic so far,the older Yonko have a crewmember with those Zoan powers.The only one remaining is Kaido.Hence I predict that someone in Kaido's crew has the Seiryu Devil Fruit.And that Kaido actually comes from the EAST BLUE!
                          KAIDO
                          According to this theory he comes from the East Blue.But wouldn't a weather controlling Dragon Devil Fruit be in his possession,since it sounds ridiculously powerful.I don't believe so and here is my evidence:
                          *The Yonko captains so far were not the ones who had those Mythical Beasts Devil Fruits.It was a crewmember.Hence a crewmember would have the Dragon fruit.I believe it will be the first mate adn,ultimately,Zoro's opponent.
                          -Zoro has been depicted as a Dragon in various media.
                          -"Santoryu" has"Ryu" inside it,which can mean DRAGON.
                          -Tatsu Maki translates to Dragon Twister.
                          -He defeated Ryuma(Pay attention,the "Ryu" pops up again),who killed a dragon!
                          -He killed the artificial dragon in Punk Hazard.
                          -Hence Zoro would fight that Dragon Fruit user.

                          But what would Kaido's fruit be?Two possibilities:
                          What animal is refered to as "King of the beasts" in our world's tradition?THE LION.
                          I beliece that Kaido has a lion Devil fruit.It can be an ordinary lion,a mythical lion(like the Nemean lion that had an impenetrable armor fur)or a beast that is part lion(Chimaera or some other creature for example).Also there are bound to be many divine lions in our world's tradition or to some religion.
                          -It doesn't have to be an incredibly powerful or a mythical Zoan however.Kaido is refered to as"The strongest creature in the World",not "He who has the most powerful Zoan".Remember that the future Pirate King is the user of the Gomu-Gomu,which is definitely not the most powerful Paramecia.
                          -The lion Fruit would also represent Kaido as the leader.He the leader-king and his army of animals(The Smile users).

                          2nd possibility:An animal that has to do with cold.
                          Since the Winter island that X Drake landed on is a personal favourite of his(I believe the Lion one,but this one is good to be mentiones as well).

                          Let's return to the "Kaido comes from the East Blue" part.It would actually make sense in various ways:
                          -A current Yonko that belongs to a previous generation of pirates THAT COMES FROM EAST BLUE VS a rising legend of the new generation THAT COMES FROM EAST BLUE(Luffy).
                          -The "generation theme is important:
                          http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/23-209.0/compressed/One_Piece_209_10.jpg
                          More obvious to the anime,where Crocodile clearly says"You're just a rookie pirate that has come out of nowhere.Do you know who I am"He was a member of a previous generation of piracy,a well-known one too and a Warlord.
                          *Also remeber that Big Mom said:
                          http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/66-651.0/compressed/d017.jpg
                          Middle panel.Kaido would be largely unaware of Luffy,similarly to how Big Mom was.In the anime the line goes"I remember your name NOW.'

                          What about his background?
                          So what is a place in East Blue that's an animal paradise or where starnge and quirky animals live.Yes it is this place:
                          http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130125193013/onepiece/images/5/5d/Island_of_Rare_Animals_Infobox.png
                          *So where am I getting at?I believe that is Kaido's HOME ISLAND!He somehow attained high intelligence and left the island to become a pirate.Sounds strange?The series we love is full of strange!It is the only trully strange place in East Blue and would be fitting for Kaido's background.Plus that way everything is connected together and we know that Oda loves Call backs and Foreshadowings.
                          *Kaido could quite possibly not be an animal at all.Yeah I know that he has been reffered to as "The Strongest Creature alive".But what if that refers to the fact that he's the strongest Zoan,instead of the strongest animal per se?He doesn't necessarily have the strongest Zoan,but he's the best Zoan user.What if he's a human?What if he's the CAPTAIN OF GAIMON'S CREW?Or the pirate that took the treasure from the chests Gaimon has been guarding for so many years all alone,the chests up the hill that were empty,before Gaimon's crew arrived?Think about those possibilities.

                          Don't forget to mention your opinion about all these.

                          P.S. I accidentally wrote "Yonkos" on the title instead of "Yonko".Please don't be too harsh about it!
                          P.S.2 http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131013103704/onepiece/es/images/thumb/b/b6/Kaido_Infobox.png/500px-Kaido_Infobox.png
                          To me he looks more human than animal.

                          Shanks already comes from east blue so it would be better if he came from somewhere else lol.

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                            Quoting the whole message, really ? For this.

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                              The Vermillion Phoenix that is not vermillion at all.

                              The Black Tortoise that is not black at all.

                              Rockstar is a DF user despite that guy looking nothing like him.

                              And that guy looks nothing like a hybrid Zoan.

                              Kaidou comes from East Blue based on extremely flimsy evidence.

                              Not the best thought-out theory.

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                                Shanks already comes from east blue so it would be better if he came from somewhere else lol.

                                Shanks comes from West Blue.

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                                  @Ordinary:

                                  So, in summary, Gaimon is Kaido. Gotcha.

                                  so in essence, this is the most elaborate post that belongs in the dumb theory thread?

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                                    I like your theory.
                                    I don't think you are right but I still like it.
                                    Keep it up and don't let these people here demoralize you.

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                                      White tigers are not Mythical Creatures. They are very real.

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                                        @DollarScholar:

                                        White tigers are not Mythical Creatures. They are very real.

                                        I am refering to the Japanese Byakko-White Tiger.
                                        Anyway,I've mentioned these theories to other fans in the past and they liked them and that's why I decided to make them officially public.

                                        In violently vociferating you violate your virility with vacuous vanity, vanguard of vileness. I visit my vengeance by vindictively vacating my vapours on your visage.

                                        Originally posted by UssopSpell.

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                                          @Siranime:

                                          I am refering to the Japanese Byakko-White Tiger.
                                          Anyway,I've mentioned these theories to other fans in the past and they liked them and that's why I decided to make them officially public.

                                          How about you make a poll about whether people want Kaidou to be one of thoe goofy rooster-fox snake-rabbit things from Gaimon's island and see how far that gets you.

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                                            ^ That just reminded me of Digimon

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                                              The knife that luffy used to cut himself was actually an ancient weapon

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                                                ^ That just reminded me of Digimon

                                                Gaimon's name ends with 'mon'. So if both Kaido and Gaimon are digimon, they are the same person.

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                                                  The knife that luffy used to cut himself was actually an ancient weapon

                                                  Best comment ever lol

                                                  My Team Supreme

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                                                    @Siranime:

                                                    Hello guys,Siranime here!Some of you of course would remeber my previous thread regarding the 7th Warlord.This thread however,unlike the previous one would be more theory than wild speculation.One thing I've got to mention is that this theory is entirely my ceation.So if you'ce seen similar theories,it means that others have arrived to the same conclusion as me.So let's begin!

                                                    wheter i agree with you or not i really appreciate your effort to put some content instead of talking about unuseful stuff

                                                    "I'm simply an accident. Why take it all so seriously?"

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                                                      Kaidomon, New World Pirate, Kaidomon is an Emperor

                                                      Kaidomon, New World Pirate, Kaidomon is an Emperor

                                                      Chaaaaange into Big Time Pirate, tooooo, destroy the Neeeww World

                                                      _"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron

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                                                        Dammit you guys, now I want to play Digimon World 2 again.

                                                        Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                          Shanks already comes from east blue so it would be better if he came from somewhere else lol.

                                                          !

                                                          "I'm simply an accident. Why take it all so seriously?"

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                                                              Hello guys,Siranime here!Some of you of course would remeber my previous thread regarding the 7th Warlord.This thread however,unlike the previous one would be more theory than wild speculation.One thing I've got to mention is that this theory is entirely my ceation.So if you'ce seen similar theories,it means that others have arrived to the same conclusion as me.So let's begin!

                                                              First of all,I'd like to point out that half of the Yonko of the previous generation seem to somehow be related to the four Mythical Beasts of the Far East.Those beasts are the Seiryu(Azure Dragon),Suzaku(Vermilion Phoenix),Byakko(White Tiger) and Genbu(the Black Tortoise).
                                                              So you might ask how could this be related to the Yonko?

                                                              Firstly,someone has Phoenix powers AND is related to one of the Yonko.It's this guy
                                                              http://static.tumblr.com/e7sqaon/pmUmbglhe/marco_phoenix.png

                                                              While he is mostly blue,if I'm not mistaken the yellow part is more VERMILLION in the manga.He is the first mate of a previous generation Yonko-of Whitebeard!While many people do not know it,the Suzaku also represents a cardinal direction-South.HEnce I believe that Whitebeard,Marco come from the SOUTH BLUE(or at least that's where the crew was initially formed).

                                                              2nd:Genbu,the black tortoise.
                                                              So is there actually a CONFIRMED Yonko member that has a Zoan and can transform into a Black Tortoise?The answer is yes and it is this guy:
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                                                              Moreover,you should notice that it is not exactly entirely black,similarly to how Marco is not entirely Vermillion.He is a crewmember of Big Mom.The Black Tortoise represents a cardinal direction as well forever:North.Hence I believe that Big Mom's crew comes from the North Blue.

                                                              But what about Shanks?
                                                              If you remember the meeting between Shanks and Whitebeard,Shanks mentioned that he comes from the West Blue.
                                                              ^Something that the Wikia confirms in the Shanks page,on the "History"part.
                                                              So what is the beast that signifies the direction of west?That would be Byakko,the White tiger.

                                                              But who would have the White Tiger Mytical Zoan in Shanks's crew?I believe this guy:
                                                              http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130128022058/onepiece/images/8/8c/Rockstar_Anime_Infobox.png

                                                              Also check this out:
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                                                              Barely on the far right you can see someone with feline characteristics.I believe that is Rickstar in his Hybrid Zoan form!Don't forget that he's a Rookie.He has a 94,000,000 Berries bounty.He was made fun of both Shanks and Whitebeard.He could rely heavily on his Devil Fruit and he may actually be the only Devil Fruit user in Shanks's crew.

                                                              Last but not least-Seiryu the Blue Dragon that can control the weather and represents the East.According to the logic so far,the older Yonko have a crewmember with those Zoan powers.The only one remaining is Kaido.Hence I predict that someone in Kaido's crew has the Seiryu Devil Fruit.And that Kaido actually comes from the EAST BLUE!
                                                              KAIDO
                                                              According to this theory he comes from the East Blue.But wouldn't a weather controlling Dragon Devil Fruit be in his possession,since it sounds ridiculously powerful?I don't believe so and here is my evidence:
                                                              *The Yonko captains so far were not the ones who had those Mythical Beasts Devil Fruits.It was a crewmember.Hence a crewmember would have the Dragon fruit.I believe it will be the first mate adn,ultimately,Zoro's opponent.
                                                              -Zoro has been depicted as a Dragon in various media.
                                                              -"Santoryu" has"Ryu" inside it,which can mean DRAGON.
                                                              -Tatsu Maki translates to Dragon Twister.
                                                              -He defeated Ryuma(Pay attention,the "Ryu" pops up again),who killed a dragon!
                                                              -He killed the artificial dragon in Punk Hazard.
                                                              -Hence Zoro would fight that Dragon Fruit user.

                                                              But what would Kaido's fruit be?Two possibilities:
                                                              What animal is refered to as "King of the beasts" in our world's tradition?THE LION.
                                                              I beliece that Kaido has a lion Devil fruit.It can be an ordinary lion,a mythical lion(like the Nemean lion that had an impenetrable armor fur)or a beast that is part lion(Chimaera or some other creature for example).Also there are bound to be many divine lions in our world's tradition or to some religion.
                                                              -It doesn't have to be an incredibly powerful or a mythical Zoan however.Kaido is refered to as"The strongest creature in the World",not "He who has the most powerful Zoan".Remember that the future Pirate King is the user of the Gomu-Gomu,which is definitely not the most powerful Paramecia.
                                                              -The lion Fruit would also represent Kaido as the leader.He the leader-king and his army of animals(The Smile users).

                                                              2nd possibility:An animal that has to do with cold.
                                                              Since the Winter island that X Drake landed on is a personal favourite of his(I believe the Lion one,but this one is good to be mentiones as well).

                                                              Let's return to the "Kaido comes from the East Blue" part.It would actually make sense in various ways:
                                                              -A current Yonko that belongs to a previous generation of pirates THAT COMES FROM EAST BLUE VS a rising legend of the new generation THAT COMES FROM EAST BLUE(Luffy).
                                                              -The "generation theme is important:
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                                                              More obvious to the anime,where Crocodile clearly says"You're just a rookie pirate that has come out of nowhere.Do you know who I am"He was a member of a previous generation of piracy,a well-known one too and a Warlord.
                                                              *Also remeber that Big Mom said:
                                                              http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/66-651.0/compressed/d017.jpg
                                                              Middle panel.Kaido would be largely unaware of Luffy,similarly to how Big Mom was.In the anime the line goes"I remember your name NOW.'

                                                              What about his background?
                                                              So what is a place in East Blue that's an animal paradise or where starnge and quirky animals live.Yes it is this place:
                                                              http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130125193013/onepiece/images/5/5d/Island_of_Rare_Animals_Infobox.png
                                                              *So where am I getting at?I believe that is Kaido's HOME ISLAND!He somehow attained high intelligence and left the island to become a pirate.Sounds strange?The series we love is full of strange!It is the only trully strange place in East Blue and would be fitting for Kaido's background.Plus that way everything is connected together and we know that Oda loves Call backs and Foreshadowings.
                                                              *Kaido could quite possibly not be an animal at all.Yeah I know that he has been reffered to as "The Strongest Creature alive".But what if that refers to the fact that he's the strongest Zoan,instead of the strongest animal per se?He doesn't necessarily have the strongest Zoan,but he's the best Zoan user.What if he's a human?What if he's the CAPTAIN OF GAIMON'S CREW?Or the pirate that took the treasure from the chests Gaimon has been guarding for so many years all alone,the chests up the hill that were empty,before Gaimon's crew arrived?Think about those possibilities.

                                                              Don't forget to mention your opinion about all these.

                                                              P.S. I accidentally wrote "Yonkos" on the title instead of "Yonko".Please don't be too harsh about it!
                                                              P.S.2 http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131013103704/onepiece/es/images/thumb/b/b6/Kaido_Infobox.png/500px-Kaido_Infobox.png
                                                              To me he looks more human than animal.

                                                              I said a long time ago on another forum during when Drake went on Kaido's favourite island which was a winter island that Kaido could be a mythical zoan yeti which would mean that he would not feel the low temperature and would feel most at home because his fur would make him hot on the islands that are not cold also he could have weather powers to do with cold kind of like monet's powers but not logia.

                                                              he does not have to have a lion type zoan just because he is the king of the beasts that could just mean that he is the strongest (true) and he commands a army of beasts also true which he does due to the smiles and his starter crew could have been mostly zoan and non human creatures such as fishman,animals that can talk race minkmen such as bepo from laws crew and that lion guy from big moms,ect

                                                              This would give Kaido his weather power and give him a feared rare mythical zoan Yeti also he most likely has kings haki and is a minkmen that ate a zoan just like that lion minkmen from big moms crew that ate that turtle type zoan.

                                                              Big mom just seems to have a acid fruit which would make her the perfect yonkou for Luffy to 1vs1 after they team up on Kaido due to rubber being immune to acid so it would be like the Enel fight.

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                                                              I was talking about him forming his crew in east blue also Shanks and Buggy most likely started their bounty's in east blue due to them only being cabin boys on Roger's ship or Buggy would have had a much higher bounty if Shank's had gotten one on Roger's ship kind of like how Blackbeard did not get a bounty until he left Whitebeards crew even though he was strong and because he was just a member of Roger's crew when he left which means he was not a captain himself which like how Sanji was a nobody in the pirate world when he went to east blue.

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                                                                Shanks already comes from east blue so it would be better if he came from somewhere else lol.

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                                                                I was talking about him forming his crew in east blue also Shanks and Buggy most likely started their bounty's in east blue due to them only being cabin boys on Roger's ship or Buggy would have had a much higher bounty if Shank's had gotten one on Roger's ship kind of like how Blackbeard did not get a bounty until he left Whitebeards crew even though he was strong and because he was just a member of Roger's crew when he left which means he was not a captain himself which like how Sanji was a nobody in the pirate world when he went to east blue.

                                                                …you didn't say anything about Shanks forming his crew in East Blue.

                                                                Just admit you messed up, bud.

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                                                                  i like that post, even tho i think we still know almost nothing about yonkous. let's wait and see if it was only speculation or the real case. Oda has shown to be well versed with simbolism through all the story, you'll never know, tnx a lot again @siranime

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                                                                    I was talking about him forming his crew in east blue

                                                                    Aside from Yassop when was it ever said or implied that Shanks formed his crew in East Blue.

                                                                    also Shanks and Buggy most likely started their bounty's in east blue due to them only being cabin boys on Roger's ship

                                                                    Buggy sure, but Shanks there's no reason to think this.

                                                                    which like how Sanji was a nobody in the pirate world when he went to east blue.

                                                                    We don't know when Sanji went to East Blue, whether as a child on the resort ship or as an adult with Zeff.
                                                                    Either way what are you talking about nobody? He wasn't an anybody because he wasn't in the pirate world in any way shape or form until he decided to join Luffy.

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                                                                      Sanji was only a nobody pirate because he chose to be a chef instead. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were pretty much leagues ahead of everyone in the east blue except for Arlong.

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                                                                        Sanji was only a nobody pirate because he chose to be a chef instead. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were pretty much leagues ahead of everyone in the east blue except for Arlong.

                                                                        Sanji wasn't any kind of pirate at all.

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                                                                          Big mom just seems to have a acid fruit which would make her the perfect yonkou for Luffy to 1vs1 after they team up on Kaido due to rubber being immune to acid so it would be like the Enel fight.

                                                                          In what way is that true?

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                                                                            The one thing I really like about your theory is Kaido being from the east blue. Generations IS an important theme, maybe this means Luffy will replace Kaido as the yonko from the east blue?? I like the idea.

                                                                            We dont know who will be defeated first, big mom or Kaido, but i'd bet money on kaido being more evil than big mom and therefor the more likely candidate for Luffy to defeat and replace. Perhaps making big mom an ally in the future.

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                                                                              I'm kind of hoping for big mom and kaidou clashing because they are after Luffy or maybe both decide to work together also bringing together law Luffy and kidds alliance too work together which would be epic and take out two yonkous in one arc.

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                                                                                There's this thing that does not add up with Kaido being from East Blue (not like he is anyway), I mean we have Roger, Garp, Dragon (secret), Zeff, Yassop and probably Rayleigh from East Blue, so wouldn't people take that sea more seriously instead of going "Oh East Blue is the weakest of them all" but it sure gives some strong foes from time to time.

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                                                                                I'm kind of hoping for big mom and kaidou clashing because they are after Luffy or maybe both decide to work together also bringing together law Luffy and kidds alliance too work together which would be epic and take out two yonkous in one arc.

                                                                                Kaido and Big Mama working together in order to defeat a few Supernovas is really not great at all, it cheapens them and make them look weak plus If this were somehow the case, the Supernovas alliance will most likely be doomed.

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                                                                                  Shanks-Haki Master
                                                                                  Big Mom-Candy Paramecia
                                                                                  Kaido-Mythical Zoan
                                                                                  Blackbeard-Darkness Logia

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                                                                                    We dont know who will be defeated first, big mom or Kaido, but i'd bet money on kaido being more evil than big mom and therefor the more likely candidate for Luffy to defeat and replace.

                                                                                    You don't automatically replace a Yonko by defeating them.

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                                                                                    Big Mom-Candy Paramecia

                                                                                    I'm curious as to how this would work?

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                                                                                      Shanks-Haki Master
                                                                                      Big Mom-Candy Paramecia
                                                                                      Kaido-Mythical Zoan
                                                                                      Blackbeard-Darkness Logia

                                                                                      I am assuming the combo kinda works with the old Yonkou so it comes as

                                                                                      Whitebeard - Paramecia
                                                                                      Shanks - Haki
                                                                                      Kaidou - Mythical zoan
                                                                                      Big Mom - Logia (acid perhaps?!)

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                                                                                        You know, it's possible Shanks has a devil fruit now.

                                                                                        Even though I'd like it if he didn't.

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                                                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                          You know, it's possible Shanks has a devil fruit now.

                                                                                          Even though I'd like it if he didn't.

                                                                                          He became a Yonkou without it so doesn't seem necessary for him to eat one now to retain the title. But who knows!

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                                                                                            We don't really know that he became a Yonkou without it. We only know that he didn't have one while he was in East Blue.

                                                                                            Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                                            Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                            It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                              We don't really know that he became a Yonkou without it. We only know that he didn't have one while he was in East Blue.

                                                                                              You're starting to sound like a certain Vagabond…:ninja:

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                                                                                                You're starting to sound like a certain Vagabond…:ninja:

                                                                                                Just keeping open for possibilities. It's easy to claim or wish that Shanks doesn't have a devil fruit, but it doesn't really have much of a solid standing. There's 10 year gap between Shanks not having a devil fruit and the first time we saw him again. And it's not like he was shown swimming or something.

                                                                                                And it's not like he ever declared he was against devil fruits. In fact, the first devil fruit we saw in the story belonged to his crew. And they had that devil fruit book with them. Well, it was either a book or a sketch Roux drew, hard to know for certain.

                                                                                                Originally Posted by Outerspec

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                                                                                                  And it's not like he ever declared he was against devil fruits. In fact, the first devil fruit we saw in the story belonged to his crew. And they had that devil fruit book with them. Well, it was either a book or a sketch Roux drew, hard to know for certain.

                                                                                                  I thought that Roux had drawn a sketch of the fruit to help sell it on, or maybe to get more information about it.

                                                                                                  It could be the devil fruit encyclopedia that Teach mentioned previously, but I'd find it strange for that to be in possession of the Red Hair Pirates.

                                                                                                  I just think it'd be a strange turn of events for Shanks to eat a fruit at this point, after one of the most important points in his life was while swimming, he already had a DF in his possession and didn't eat it, and he's been shown to be an absolute monster when it comes to haki.

                                                                                                  Not to mention that he seems to essentially be like a young Rayleigh, and that his crew is the most normal that we've seen in the series.

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                                                                                                    Not disagreeing with anything you said, just saying there's no definitive evidence Shanks doesn't have a devil fruit.

                                                                                                    And while I'd like it if it stayed that way, who knows what Oda intended.

                                                                                                    Originally Posted by Outerspec

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                                                                                                      Not disagreeing with anything you said, just saying there's no definitive evidence Shanks doesn't have a devil fruit.

                                                                                                      And while I'd like it if it stayed that way, who knows what Oda intended.

                                                                                                      As strong as Kyros is now he is not exactly as dangerous as he would be with both legs- he is doing very good against Diamante and will probably beat him but with both legs and full mobility - speed that it gives I think fight with Diamante could be possibly over.
                                                                                                      Oda is getting us ready for one armed badass most likely 👅 But on other hand Shanks in now Yonko and he is at Zenith of pirates among 4 strongest of them and he cant let himself have any handicaps.
                                                                                                      Aokiji after loosing his leg made himself a new one thanks to his logia so It would be logical if Shanks eat some Devils Fruit and ends up with balancing out his handicap in that way.

                                                                                                      Even Mihawk said he lost his interest in duels with one armed Shanks.. so nobody can deny its handicap in a way for Swordsman. If Shanks would not loose his arm chances would be close to zero for him ever eating devil fruit as Robzilla said he would just become as badass as Rayleight in "no DF" way but as he lost an arm there are chances we might see Shanks with power later on- he sure had DF and didnt eaten it but it was before loosing an arm.
                                                                                                      Also Shanks rival now has 2 Devil Fruits and they should fight sooner or later as it was foreshadowed

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                                                                                                        Well, concerning Mihawk and Shanks' duel, Mihawk would be in a bind whether he won or lost.

                                                                                                        If he dueled Shanks and won, he would have won against an one armed man.

                                                                                                        If he dueled Shanks and lost, he would have lost against an one armed man.

                                                                                                        Don't know which would be worse for him, lol.

                                                                                                        Originally Posted by Outerspec

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