well at the moment dofla's clone hasn't really shown to be any weaker than the original.
so it's possible that both luffy and law will have their chance to beat up dofla
also..now that i think about it..do we know who got the original?
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That is a Shonen specific trope and you know it.
Luffy will fight and beat arc antagonist because he is main character. Fine. But don't ask me to consider that an example of good storytelling solely because Luffy is a main character. That does not mean he needs to be personaly responsible for every noteworthy event in the manga.
Or that I have to consider it excellent solely because "Duh, Luffy is main character". I know that. But as of right now, he has about as much connection to him as a rubber bullet. Fight might be interesting on level of choreography, but on level of personalities, it is nothing that hasn't been done before, or even worse than that, because I don't recall an arc where Straw Hats and Luffy personaly had so little to do with the main villain in the history of the manga.
Rant over.
I actually agree with you on everything you have said my dear Darth. I didn't feel anything when Luffy landed that RedHawk, but I might feel something now that I know more about Dofla, but this doesn't change the fact that Law should be the one to deal with Dofla or at least deliver the last blow and seal Dofla's fate.
I wouldn't call this a "Bullet connection" since Luffy hates Celestial Dragons and I'm pretty sure that Doffy will keep on blabbering how above he is and what not, but again this doesn't really create a connection that will satisfy
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@superv:
Crocodile, Enel, Hody Jones and many other villains deserved to be beaten by the poeple who have a grudge against them, question is: could they beat them?
so far the only character who may be capable of defeating dofa is law and that won't happen if he doesn't get rid of terbol first.Law has been getting bitch-slaped by Doffy since the arc started . How on earth does people think he has a chance of beating Doffy is completely beyond me . And fun-fact Luffy has done more damaged to Doffy then Law despite Law having the most op fruit ability in the series ( plot reasons ).
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well at the moment dofla's clone hasn't really shown to be any weaker than the original.
so it's possible that both luffy and law will have their chance to beat up dofla
also..now that i think about it..do we know who got the original?Law has it and the clone will be gone by the time we get back (Probably) and Oda making luffy fight a clone and Law the original sounds super absurd.
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But you know what's truly sad?
We have all those people with vengeances and grudges against Doflamingo, connections to him, build to be in conflict with him.
And the one to beat him will still be Luffy.
Sigh I hate Shonen tropes.
The flashback seems to be implying that Trebol at least had some roll to play yet. Wouldn't mind luffy getting a few good punches in and go to beat the snoot of trebol while law mops things up.
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@superv:
Crocodile, Enel, Hody Jones and many other villains deserved to be beaten by the poeple who have a grudge against them, question is: could they beat them?
so far the only character who may be capable of defeating dofa is law and that won't happen if he doesn't get rid of terbol first.Issho, Sabo, Zoro, Jesus might have a pretty good fight against the all powerful Dofla, but they'll lose of course, don't you think?
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@Galaxy:
It's a Shonen manga, and you acknowledge that yourself. Don't know why you would expect it not to follow some of the tropes contained within the genre.
Luffy and the Straw hats are involved with most of the events because it's important for it to be seen with those character's perspectives in mind.
We've got the entire Whitebeard War already where Luffy wasn't responsible for the defeat of any major antagonist. Yes, he was involved in the events, but the break in to Impel Down was the only one that was caused specifically by him.
Maybe there's a little less personal motivation than normal… but it's definitely growing. We've got Luffy's interactions with Rebecca driving him, his friendship with Law (remember his reaction to Law's shooting), and more recently, Doflamingo's treatment of Bellamy). There's more... but the motivation and connection is definitely there.
First, thank you for actually engaging in discussion instead of useless strawmaning.
Second: Tropes are not inherently bad. I'm just saying that this spefic case of Oda using them is. Those arcs that you brought up are great examples of him going against those tropes for the benefit of storytelling. He has shown himself to be capable of that, so I don't think it's out of place to acknowledge that. He is not Kubo, he is rather capable writer and storyteller.
Those things that you bring up are indeed part of his motivation, but because if how rushed his friendship with all those people is, it doesn't feel this way. He knew Rebbeca for a chapter, they've had two conversations. Similary with Law, who has not interacted with Luffy almost at all. And then there is Bellamy, sudden friendship with whom remains in my opinion one of the most jarring things in this arc, considering he implied to have done things to Sky Island people.
Most importantly: Oda has spend very little time building up conflict between Doffy and Luffy, and has spend an exceptional amount of time building up conflict with other characters, most notably Riku's Family and Law.
And then everyone all but break the forth wall about Luffy beating Doflamingo because he is main protagonist.
The only thing that can be said about his connection to Doffy is that it isn't unexisting.
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The flashback seems to be implying that Trebol at least had some roll to play yet. Wouldn't mind luffy getting a few good punches in and go to beat the snoot of trebol while law mops things up.
I wouldn't mind that at all also, but I just can't buy that Oda will choose to go that route.
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Croc wasn't going to be beaten by Cobra or Vivi, his treatmen of vivi specificaly made Luffy mad and his defeat was satisfying
Enel was almost beaten by someone with enough power and grudge to make it good, he revived himself, pissed off luffy by deepfrying everyone but Nami and Chopper, so he got a deserved beating, and it was satisfying.
Hoddy was more of a case of "let's make you a hero, because we need one" thing.. It was weird and unsatisfying, but more because of Hoddy's lackluster performance, and stylistic suck of motive than Luffy's involvement, as it was orchestated by Jinbe. -
At least you chose the before image. After is the true ugly.
That is a Shonen specific trope and you know it.
Luffy will fight and beat arc antagonist because he is main character. Fine. But don't ask me to consider that an example of good storytelling solely because Luffy is a main character. That does not mean he needs to be personaly responsible for every noteworthy event in the manga.
Or that I have to consider it excellent solely because "Duh, Luffy is main character". I know that. But as of right now, he has about as much connection to him as a rubber bullet. Fight might be interesting on level of choreography, but on level of personalities, it is nothing that hasn't been done before, or even worse than that, because I don't recall an arc where Straw Hats and Luffy personaly had so little to do with the main villain in the history of the manga.
Rant over.
I actually agree with you on everything you have said my dear Darth. I didn't feel anything when Luffy landed that RedHawk, but I might feel something now that I know more about Dofla, but this doesn't change the fact that Law should be the one to deal with Dofla or at least deliver the last blow and seal Dofla's fate.
I wouldn't call this a "Bullet connection" since Luffy hates Celestial Dragons and I'm pretty sure that Doffy will keep on blabbering how above he is on what not, but again this doesn't really create a connection that will satisfy
you/us besides the Angel vs Devil thing that Oda has created.The flashback seems to be implying that Trebol at least had some roll to play yet. Wouldn't mind luffy getting a few good punches in and go to beat the snoot of trebol while law mops things up.
I think the author can use this encounter to at least give Law 50% of the effort required to beat Doflamingo's behind. In my humble opinion, it's only fair as baiscally the manga has been Law's playground for the last couple of months. :happy: I wonder if the other Novas will get such attention, hopefully.
@Bartholemew:
About Mingo's fate, I think he's a very forgettable villain who no one will remember afterwards - if you know what I mean.
You mean he will drown in sugar?
Now to more of your favorite villain analysis or attempted analysis.
Please read my earlier posts for a clearer picture.Some might say, Doflamingo's lack of a role model in his life is one of the causes for his descent into madness. Comparing Doflamingo, Robin, Law, Nami and rocinante, it's clear that they all faced hardships and pain since an early age, however, they apart from Doflamingo had people like Saul, Rocinante, Bellemere and Sengoku to an extent. It's true that a good mentor figure was absent from Doflamingo's later life as a kid and beyond, however, one can argue that Doflamingo would repel such figures and stray more towards the company of people like Trebol and Vergo as shown in his memories. The difference between Robin, Law, Nami, Rocinante, and Doflamingo is the initial disposition of their characters on the moral spectrum not just the morality of their mentors. That is not to say that Doflamingo is born evil and had no chance what so ever in life but to be a villain, it's more of saying, Doflamingo's character is far more influenced by the evil factors in his life like Mariejois' social atmosphere, than by the good factors in his life like his parents. These factors alone are not absolute in carving people's personalities and characters, for the people themselves make choices that reflect their receptiveness to said factors. For example, Rocinante chose to embrace the values of his father much more than the values of the celestial dragons. Furthermore, I don't think we should dismiss such a choice by attributing it to Rocinante's saintliness. If all the kids in Mariejois chose to continue the cycle of evilness they inherited from their parents, while one kid chose to see the evil in said cycle, do we call him a saint which the world won't see the likes of in centuries? I prefer to call him a good person who saw the right path through all the misguidance surrounding him. While the other kids made the wrong choice of accepting their misguided reality and grew with that choice. Of course the evil choice will be the easier route for kids living in such poisonous environments, but Doflamingo had seemingly good parents in his early life, a fact that should have made it easier for him not to stray. Doflamingo had all the reasons to not submit to the dragons twisted ideals, the same reasons Rocinante had, alas their resultant personalities were different because simply, one is good while the other gave in to wickedness. Here's my friend Rocinante's words:
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Luffy is barely miffed by Doffy and his treatment of Rebecca, and pissed enough by his treatment of Bellamy.
Law has.. tons of baggage more to deal with, unless he ask of Luffy for him to beat Doffy, I don't see luffy actually doing the KS.
Mingo can also get annoyed at the defeat of the family, try to cut his losses, and get Kaidoh'd.
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I think the author can use this encounter to at least give Law 50% of the effort required to beat Doflamingo's behind. In my humble opinion, it's only fair as baiscally the manga has been Law's playground for the last couple of months. :happy: I wonder if the other Novas will get such attention, hopefully.
There's not such of thing as 50%, the only way I can see this happening is If Luffy fights Trebol and beats him while getting the same amount of damage as Dofla during his fight with Law.
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There's not such of thing as 50%, the only way I can see this happening is If Luffy fights Trebol and beats him while getting the same amount of damage as Dofla during his fight with Law.
Law is going to get brutally knocked out within two chapters after Flashback to provide further motivation for Luffy is what I'm betting.
Unless I'm right and Oda is setting us up for subversion of "Protagonist solves all problems and everything is fine" cliche, then it will take a little bit more, but they are both going down.
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If the problem is expectations, then that seems more like your problem.
Everything pretty much already fits. It certainly doesn't makes sense for Law to return to the Donquixote Pirates when you consider everything Rosinante did in this chapter and the last page. Your expectations are pretty much going against what's being written.
Where did I wrote that Law might return to Mingos Pirates? Quote me there please because I cant remember
There are 3 more years before Doflamingo invades Dressrosa. Law doesnt know Sugar as she joined between time he left and time of taking over Dressrosa.
What I wanted to say is that Law can possibly encounter somebody from Doflamingo pirates during those 3 years, then just having conversation through den den Mushi with Doflamingo.
Just talking about killing Corazon and putting there for example line about "weak not being able to choose way they die" would give more context and meaning to those words.
Right now its bit messy for me in some way, One Piece made me used to everything "clicking" and nicely working together like in mechanical watch.Also Shadowgreed - what happened to you? Are you in love or something ?
You seem nicer than ever lately(no offence)
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I am truly sorry if my avatar offends anyone. I just find the depiction artistically amusing.
No problem, but I was just giving the heads up in case the mods came after you.
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There's not such of thing as 50%, the only way I can see this happening is If Luffy fights Trebol and beats him while getting the same amount of damage as Dofla during his fight with Law.
Interesting take. It's not 50% per se, I want Law to actually be a determining factor in beating Doflamingo. Come on Law, do it for Rocinante!
No problem, but I was just giving the heads up in case the mods came after you.
Thank you very much kind lady/sir. I very much appreciate it.
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What it seems like you guys are forgetting is the emotional investment of characrers in Luffy. Given that most of the arcs revolve around the Strawhats showing up, hearing a sob story, and bashing heads, you could argue that one of the main points is that Luffy doesn't always have a connection to the villain. He's usually fighting them on behalf of someone else, often someone he's just met, and gets pissed off by hearing/seeing how the villain acts. Oda has gotten really skilled at this. Seriously, has there ever been a time when Luffy beat the villain'sface in that wasn't satisfying?
At this point what we're waiting for is Law to put his faith in Luffy. We've already got the Rikus doing that, the townsfolk following their lead, and even freaking Fujitora believing in them. Law has been shown to rely on the Strawhats, but he hasn't quite pinned all his hopes on them. This will be a bit more difficult to pull off since Law is a capable fighter himself, but it's going to happen.
Really, all the narrative points are there for Luffy to win. It would be way weirder for Law to win because he's only fighting for revenge. Law will eventually channel all the emotional build-up we just had from the flashback into Luffy.
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Issho, Sabo, Zoro, Jesus might have a pretty good fight against the all powerful Dofla, but they'll lose of course, don't you think?
I was talking about villains getting beaten by people who have a grudge against them. and yeah Issho and Sabo might hold their own against Dofa. Zoro is preoccupied with Pica and Jesus has no reason whatsoever to involve himself in this fight.
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Similary with Law, who has not interacted with Luffy almost at all.
Just to address this point, Law did save Luffy's life two years ago so I think that has to count for a lot.
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You just settle for "easy" stuff. Own a bar for example
but if people does not obey him/her (The person from the example I described before) how is he/she going to be at the forefront of an enterprise? It really doesn´t matter the bussiness you are in the result will be the same,I just took barman because it was the first thing that crossed my mind but you could start from Biomedical Engineering and down shift positions if you feel the need, my point was ambition oriented anyway. You could perfectly run a bar all high tech and be known world wide for what you do it really doesnt matter. By the way have you seen professional Bartenders that do flaring and stuff, that is an art on its own and you would need ambition to get there so that´s besides the point, I wasn´t questioning the position, but the fact that you would obviously woudn´t need to go adventuring out and around the sea if you run a bar; unless its a sea bar a la Baratie.
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Law is going to get brutally knocked out within two chapters after Flashback to provide further motivation for Luffy is what I'm betting.
Unless I'm right and Oda is setting us up for subversion of "Protagonist solves all problems and everything is fine" cliche, then it will take a little bit more, but they are both going down.
Two chapters after FB is way too long, I'll give him one in between in which Law tell Dofla that he's a D only to get knocked out right away
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"weak not being able to choose way they die" would give more context and meaning to those words.
Right now its bit messy for me in some way, One Piece made me used to everything "clicking" and nicely working together like in mechanical watch.I still don't get it, why do you guys want a panel where Dofla teach that phrase to Law, back in PH it didn't have any meaning but it gained it once Dofla said it, isn't that enough?
Also Shadowgreed - what happened to you? Are you in love or something ?
You seem nicer than ever lately(no offence)
I might be lol
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@superv:
I was talking about villains getting beaten by people who have a grudge against them. and yeah Issho and Sabo might hold their own against Dofa. Zoro is preoccupied with Pica and Jesus has no reason whatsoever to involve himself in this fight.
If you have a strong Devil Fruit, Jesus will have a reason to find you lol
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This chapter was fantastic, so much feels. Oda can really get you emotionally involved in his manga :(
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But you know what's truly sad?
We have all those people with vengeances and grudges against Doflamingo, connections to him, build to be in conflict with him.
And the one to beat him will still be Luffy.
Sigh I hate Shonen tropes.
Makes sense. Luffy is the only one who can do it for Law, the Rikus, Bellamy, the gladiators and heck, even Fujitora, as he is the only person who interacted with all of them.
Law is doing it for Rosinante, but he doesn't have any sort of investment with Dressrosa and its people, so it doesn't make sense for him to save it.
Similarly, The Rikus' story is not as deep as Law's.
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Makes sense. Luffy is the only one who can do it for Law, the Rikus, Bellamy, the gladiators and heck, even Fujitora, as he is the only person who interacted with all of them.
Law is doing it for Rosinante, but he doesn't have any sort of investment with Dressrosa and its people, so it doesn't make sense for him to save it.
I admit this is a great angle. Interesting indeed, good sir.
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So, since the flashback is ending…
How will Luffy untie himself from strings that cut through everything, are uncuttable (bird cage) and are under Doflamingo's control?Ok, with Law's fruit... that's fine by me, but else? Is one (sneaky and pretty undodgeable) hit from Doflamingo enough to make every non-logia, non-buggy fighter almost useless (imagine for example Zoro)?
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Makes sense. Luffy is the only one who can do it for Law, the Rikus, Bellamy, the gladiators and heck, even Fujitora, as he is the only person who interacted with all of them.
Law is doing it for Rosinante, but he doesn't have any sort of investment with Dressrosa and its people, so it doesn't make sense for him to save it.
Similarly, The Rikus' story is not as deep as Law's.
A) This is taking Luffy's capability as the protagonist to Sue level. Every single of those individuals that are presented as highly capable in the context of the story finds themselfs relaying on protagonist solely because he is a protagonist. That is especially true when it comes to Rikus and Fujitora, 3/4 of the former not taking part in the fight at all, and the latter forced to having to rely on ridicilous plot devices to keep him out of the action.
B) The fact that Luffy serves as a proxy for them all does not change a fact that his personal stake in the fight is null. He could be replaced with any character that interacted with those people and nothing would have changed as far as the story is concerned.
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such an amazing chapter! Oda is too good, idno how he does it lol I want Roci back!! he was so cool…maybe dragon saved him too? lmao
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@Buggy:
such an amazing chapter! Oda is too good, idno how he does it lol I want Roci back!! he was so cool…maybe dragon saved him too? lmao
Rosi's dead baby, Rosi's dead.
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While I thin Law coujld play a role in Doflamingo's defeat, so far all is agains't it.
Trebol send in the final fight, law is very damaged, no way he can solo Doflamingo who is just fine.
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such an amazing chapter! Oda is too good, idno how he does it lol I want Roci back!! he was so cool…maybe dragon saved him too? lmao
Rosi's dead baby, Rosi's dead.
So cruel.
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Law is going to get brutally knocked out within two chapters after Flashback to provide further motivation for Luffy is what I'm betting.
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Pretty much the most logical thing to happen and also Cabbage showing everyone that Becca never had a chance in block D, but then you have those guys that don't want all this to happen because it's gonna make Doula "look bad" if it gets defeated by Luffy alone, like Doula's level was something relevant in front of the one who's gonna surpass Yonkos.
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Pretty much the most logical thing to happen and also Cabbage showing everyone that Becca never had a chance in block D, but then you have those guys that don't want all this to happen because it's gonna make Doula "look bad" if it gets defeated by Luffy alone, like Doula's level was something relevant in front of the one who's gonna surpass Yonkos.
I couldn't care less if Doffy was beaten by Luffy if Oda has spent time developing conflict between the two.
He didn't. Instead, we have chapters upon chapters of backstory and build-up for everyone BUT Luffy.
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Law would be lucky if he even get to take Trebol. But when he is already in bad shape while Doffly is at his best? I have no doubt he is already doom and will simply serve to motivate Luffy.
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A) This is taking Luffy's capability as the protagonist to Sue level. Every single of those individuals that are presented as highly capable in the context of the story finds themselfs relaying on protagonist solely because he is a protagonist. That is especially true when it comes to Rikus and Fujitora, 3/4 of the former not taking part in the fight at all, and the latter forced to having to rely on ridicilous plot devices to keep him out of the action.
B) The fact that Luffy serves as a proxy for them all does not change a fact that his personal stake in the fight is null. He could be replaced with any character that interacted with those people and nothing would have changed as far as the story is concerned.
A) The Rikus really aren't that strong in the first place. Sure Rebecca and King Riku are above average, but only Kyros has really stood out. And he's currently fighting his wife's murderer. Can't complain.
As for Fujitora….umm...well he's helping? Sort of? Ok, not really, but at least he justified his actions...kind of. I guess doing nothing fits his overall agenda for dismantling the Shichibukai? This isn't working…. Hey, remember that time he stomped Sabo without breaking a sweat? That was cool!
B) Luffy doesn't have a personal reason for fighting very often. Most of the time he just fights because the bad guy hurt someone he cares about, but sometimes even that is iffy. Remember Mr. 3? Or Wapol? Or Bellamy? Or Foxy? Or Hody? And Caesar! He literally attacked Caesar because he was told something interesting would happen if he did.
Seriously, Luffy always fights for others. The two things that piss him off most are hurting the innocent and contradicting his moral code. I daresay Doflamingo has done both.
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I couldn't care less if Doffy was beaten by Luffy if Oda has spent time developing conflict between the two.
He didn't. Instead, we have chapters upon chapters of backstory and build-up for everyone BUT Luffy.
I think that's almost the point. Doflamingo is totally focused on Law and treats Luffy as just a simple pirate. It plays into his CD characterization. He thinks only those he interacts with are important.
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so when a flashback is happening…are the characters in current timeline being told the story too? or its just for us to know? I always wondered that lol Like even in Robin's flashback...do the SHs even have a clue what happened exactly?
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A) This is taking Luffy's capability as the protagonist to Sue level. Every single of those individuals that are presented as highly capable in the context of the story finds themselfs relaying on protagonist solely because he is a protagonist. That is especially true when it comes to Rikus and Fujitora, 3/4 of the former not taking part in the fight at all, and the latter forced to having to rely on ridicilous plot devices to keep him out of the action.
B) The fact that Luffy serves as a proxy for them all does not change a fact that his personal stake in the fight is null. He could be replaced with any character that interacted with those people and nothing would have changed as far as the story is concerned.
a) You have to be the first person I met to complain about the protagonist being protagonistic.
Also, do you even know what a Mary Sue is?
b) Luffy fights as a proxy most of the time. Kuro, Krieg, Arlong, Crocodile, Enel… none of those guys were personal enemies of Luffy. He has always fought those guys for other people (doesn't matter if they are other Straw Hats, princesses, allies or just people he likes). Heck, remember when he fought for a fucking dog?
You could say that his personal stake is higher than anyone else because he's invested with all characters involved. Law could give a shit about the Rikus and vice-versa.
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@Buggy:
so when a flashback is happening…are the characters in current timeline being told the story too? or its just for us to know? I always wondered that lol Like even in Robin's flashback...do the SHs even have a clue what happened exactly?
They definitely aren't being told unless it's specifically stated otherwise. I believe the only major flashbacks to be narrated to the crew are Fishman Island, Nami, and King Riku, and even then the whole crew isn't there/paying attention.
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@Doffy.:
Law fangirls sure do like to overrate his role in the story . Not that i am particularly surprised or anything . Also lol @ Law killing Doffy when Doffy role in the story seems to be far more important than Law's .
Are you that Doflamingo fanboy that has had their account banned twice already for writting bat shit crazy posts on a consistent basis? You are using the exact same images that guy was. I don't remember his names but I do remember that much. Law is a D and is part of the trifecta of Supernovas. He and Kid have a far more important role than Doflamingo whose going to get pounded and humiliated in the span of 3 months.
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Doflamingo whose going to get pounded and humiliated in the span of 3 months.
3 months being optimist, in my personal expectations I have Age of Ultron coming up before Doula'as ass getting kicked.
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Luffy settling some one else's debt? NO, that NEVER happens…
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Luffy being the one to defeat Mingo… yes, it's the mold, and that can get redundant, but even so it fits with Luffy's character. I'd be disappointed if Luffy wasn't going after his friend's enemies.
Luffy's fought the world for one of his friends, and no matter what Law wants to think, their alliance equates to them being friends. Luffy already hated Doflamingo after hearing Rebecca and the Gladiator's stories, but when the man went and shot Law no less than three times right in front of Luffy - the same kid who punched a World Noble after a former enemy had the same thing happen - Mingo signed his ass-kicking papers, I'm afraid.
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Law won't be fighting much longer in his current condition. Which leaves Luffy the only one capable of fighting Doflamingo. I'm counting on Cavendish coming to finish off whats left of Trebol.
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Thank you guys! Now the perfect closure to me in this arc is Tsoru finally killing/arresting Dofla because she had to deal with his BS two decades. But there are still a main protagonist and this Law guy butting in… meh
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@Hamburger:
Luffy settling some one else's debt? NO, that NEVER happens…
Is anyone denying it is the tradition and this what going to happen?
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I couldn't care less if Doffy was beaten by Luffy if Oda has spent time developing conflict between the two.
He didn't. Instead, we have chapters upon chapters of backstory and build-up for everyone BUT Luffy.
maybe manshelly has the giro-giro-in-someone-elses-mind fruit:ninja:
but for real, thats more or less what I'm thinking, too. after this flashback there should be something for luffy to show what dofla actually did to law imo.
is this the first time the readers hate for the antagonist seemingly completly passes luffy by?
even if he got the whole part about rebecca and dressrosa, i just find laws part too important in this matter, also you could easily redirect half of luffys hate about her fate to the people of dressrosa who hold her responsible. -
So, since the flashback is ending…
How will Luffy untie himself from strings that cut through everything, are uncuttable (bird cage) and are under Doflamingo's control?Ok, with Law's fruit... that's fine by me, but else? Is one (sneaky and pretty undodgeable) hit from Doflamingo enough to make every non-logia, non-buggy fighter almost useless (imagine for example Zoro)?
after law is almost done there will be plenty of haki to take care of strings, Black knight clone and pink fur.
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3 months being optimist, in my personal expectations I have Age of Ultron coming up before Doula'as ass getting kicked.
That's not bad, that point of view Made my wait a lil bit less bitter
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Are you that Doflamingo fanboy that has had their account banned twice already for writting bat shit crazy posts on a consistent basis? You are using the exact same images that guy was. I don't remember his names but I do remember that much. Law is a D and is part of the trifecta of Supernovas. He and Kid have a far more important role than Doflamingo whose going to get pounded and humiliated in the span of 3 months.
Same avatars = same person ?!!! ROFLMFAO!!!!
Law is a D and he knows Rocinante and …...............? What other important connection does he have ? Hell Oda put more emphasis on the importance of Law's fruit ability considering that Doffy would have used that ability to get whatever that national treasure is then Law himself.
And Law is not the first major character in the series that is a D . It is surprising but hardly anything that would put him as an important figure in the One Piece story . Law is basically like Vivi in a sense that he is an important character in this arc but not so much in the future or the entire One Piece main plot . He doesn't even seem to know anything about the D's aside from what Doffy's brother told him lol .
While Doffy is behind major stuff like slavery and smiles , has ties with the world government , has ties with Kaidou , is the biggest underworld dealer , is the first major character / villain in the series that is a former world noble is one of the major character in the entire series to have CoC , has an knowledge of a national treasure that could shake the world if people knew about it ,and he is an descendant Donquixote Family who were INVOLVED IN THE VOID CENTURY AND THE CREATION OF WORLD GOVERNMENT . Lol me having to explain Doffy's ties and why he is far more important then the likes of Law to someone is completely baffling to me .
Law and his fangirls delusions lol .
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@Doffy.:
Same avatars = same person ?!!! ROFLMFAO!!!!
Law is a D and he knows Rocinante and …...............? What other important connection does he have ? Hell Oda put more emphasis on the importance of Law's fruit ability considering that Doffy would have used that ability to get whatever that national treasure is then Law himself.
I didn't have to read the whole thing in order to summarize it!
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I didn't have to read the whole thing in order to summarize it!
Fucking hate newbies .
