Good chapter, can't wait to see this fight between Don Chinjao and Luffy along with the other collision.
Chapter 716: "Don Chinjao"
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Unlike Burgess, Bartolomeo wasn't so ashamed that he had to put a paper bag on his head.
While BUrgess is strong i don't think that he is too strong. plus he doesn't pull off shenanigans like barto, thus bart > burgess.But if Burgess is that strong i think we might see a team up of barto with luffy. if not, then there is defiantly some relation between luffy and barto that will come to play by the last battle of the coliseum for certain.
Disclaimer= I AM NOT saying that Barto can defeat Burgess.
Now that got that covered so some morons don't misquote me and turn words around … that comment made me remember something and think of a different scenario...Barto does have a chance against some other seemingly stronger opponent than himself. If he does pull off tricks in a battle, then he has a chance, esp against someone that is a one trick pony.
But again since I know someone will try to say "oh you think bArto can defeat Burgess? IDOIT"- that doesn't apply to Burgess… I doubt that Burgess still relies only on strength alone since he's an officer of an yonkou, if he's learned haki then he's no longer a one trick pony.Remember WAAAAAAAAAY back to East Blue when village boy Usopp just started out as a pirate? His first official one-on-one fight was with Chew, Fishman and one fo the top three Arlong pirate officers? "Oh they were weaklings!" .. not when compared to the SHs strength as it was back then. Zoro really had no problem with Hatchi and Sanji had a strong match against Kuroobi, but Usopp was outmatched by Chew. Yet Usopp used his bag of tricks to defeat a stronger opponent. Outran Chew which got Chew tired, then threw alcohol on Chew and lit him on fire. While Chew jumped into a pond and doused the flames, Usopp THEN used a real hammer to knock him out.
Its not the only time Oda has shown that trickery or cunning can be useful against a stronger opponent. That's why I think Barto can defeat someone stronger than him …though someone with Haki is a different thing altogether.
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Bart could always try a out of the ring if he goes against someone who is stronger than him.
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Lmao at people… Bart and Luffy vs Burgess? How dumber can this get?
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Will 717 spoilers come anytime sooner?… I need my fix:blink:
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I'm just going to start banning people who ask about spoilers from the spoiler section.
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Disclaimer= I AM NOT saying that Barto can defeat Burgess.
Now that got that covered so some morons don't misquote me and turn words around … that comment made me remember something and think of a different scenario...Barto does have a chance against some other seemingly stronger opponent than himself. If he does pull off tricks in a battle, then he has a chance, esp against someone that is a one trick pony.
But again since I know someone will try to say "oh you think bArto can defeat Burgess? IDOIT"- that doesn't apply to Burgess… I doubt that Burgess still relies only on strength alone since he's an officer of an yonkou, if he's learned haki then he's no longer a one trick pony.Remember WAAAAAAAAAY back to East Blue when village boy Usopp just started out as a pirate? His first official one-on-one fight was with Chew, Fishman and one fo the top three Arlong pirate officers? "Oh they were weaklings!" .. not when compared to the SHs strength as it was back then. Zoro really had no problem with Hatchi and Sanji had a strong match against Kuroobi, but Usopp was outmatched by Chew. Yet Usopp used his bag of tricks to defeat a stronger opponent. Outran Chew which got Chew tired, then threw alcohol on Chew and lit him on fire. While Chew jumped into a pond and doused the flames, Usopp THEN used a real hammer to knock him out.
Its not the only time Oda has shown that trickery or cunning can be useful against a stronger opponent. That's why I think Barto can defeat someone stronger than him …though someone with Haki is a different thing altogether.
You reminded me why i love (or at least loved) Ussop so much.
i think Barto is more Deceive and abuse of the opponent's strength than Ussop who is more cunning and strategic. The real question is whether Barto is for or against luffy, then we will know how interesting the fight will be. (or you know, Garp is at the coliseum, sleeping, suddenly wakes up and goes "ok time to crash this party" etc)I personally don't think Burgess is as strong as Chinjao overall. (i know that we lack info on both to properly compare the 2 but it's my wild guess)
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I'm just going to start banning people who ask about spoilers from the spoiler section.
Relax … they are CRaZy don't do that
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It depends on the question they ask.
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guys can i get a link to spoiler section? ive been looking for it for hours and coulndt find it. i wanna bookmark/favorite the section this time. pls help thanks!
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you logged in to post this and weren't logged in before.
If that is the case you would have never found the spoiler section because it is hidden unless you are logged in. Just letting you know that for future reference.
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What's going on? I thought some one said were getting early spoilers and an early chapter? Got my hopes up man:sad:
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I'm just going to start banning people who ask about spoilers from the spoiler section.
What's going on? I thought some one said were getting early spoilers and an early chapter? Got my hopes up man:sad:
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Y'all tryna get banned, cuhh?
Find a happy medium.
On topic: I have a feeling that doflamingo will suddenly appear at the tournament all relaxed n shit, only for us to wonder what happened to traffy and Fuji.
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What's going on? I thought some one said were getting early spoilers and an early chapter? Got my hopes up man:sad:
please, don't talk about spoilers outside the spoilers thread >_> the big fella up there wants to BAN you! run!
anyway, spoilers come out when they come out, might be in a minute or in 2 days, asking wont help.
Psssssssst! mods! feel free to clean this post and the one above, just getting the message across to this new guy. -
if you joined and your email isn't verified then you can't see the spoiler section! I had to PM an admin to get verified manually because I never got the email.
One Piece ,\/,,
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Please waiting … [NO SP]
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I don't think I remembered seeing burgess during the B and C block fight. Was he watching or.. probably didn't really care that he went sleeping all this time.
I bet he woke up feeling the strong armament haki clash of luffy and chinjao though. -
I don't think I remembered seeing burgess during the B and C block fight. Was he watching or.. probably didn't really care that he went sleeping all this time.
I bet he woke up feeling the strong armament haki clash of luffy and chinjao though.Maybe he went sightseeing who wouldn`t like to go sightseeing in the land of love, passion and toys. There are a lot of women and their toys to look at…:ninja:
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someone quoted my post aaaaaaaannnnd its gone -.-
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Spoiler is out. . .
One Piece ,\/,,
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Banned. Banned. Have a nice week.
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Remember when I said this thread isn't as terrible as past threads? Yeah.
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So who thinks next chapter is going to shift away from the tournament just to leave us in suspense for another week?
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Look, all I'm saying is that if you get a lion pregnant because you were drooling oatmeal over George Lucas's cornrows, you can't blame me because I've been telling you for years. Don't expect me to bail you out either; I barely have enough body fat to convince China that food stamps are mythical creatures. This time next month, they'll probably find me shriveled up at the bottom of a well with a CEO's brain glued to the salamander tattoo on my liver trying to find its way back to Billy Mays's uterus.
I accept Jesus Burgess as my Lord and Savior
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@Medical:
Look, all I'm saying is that if you get a lion pregnant because you were drooling oatmeal over George Lucas's cornrows, you can't blame me because I've been telling you for years. Don't expect me to bail you out either; I barely have enough body fat to convince China that food stamps are mythical creatures. This time next month, they'll probably find me shriveled up at the bottom of a well with a CEO's brain glued to the salamander tattoo on my liver trying to find its way back to Billy Mays's uterus.
Kids, this is why drugs are bad.
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Kids, this is why drugs are bad.
Humans, there's no such thing as that bad or good. Realities insignificance at best
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All I am saying is, Imagine the head butt that Chinjao gave to Jean ango.. and what would have happened if he had done to the same to Bartolomeo…?!
Who would have been messed up? -
Still waiting for barto to ride a barrier like a magic carpet. /sad
Veni, Vedi, Vici.
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All I am saying is, Imagine the head butt that Chinjao gave to Jean ango.. and what would have happened if he had done to the same to Bartolomeo…?!
Who would have been messed up?with haki maybe can affect barto
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Still waiting for barto to ride a barrier like a magic carpet. /sad
It's like you know what i want to see even before I know it.
! Make way for Prince Barto!
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Get Lost! It's Prince Barto.
! Oi ! Clear the way in the Tournament.
Oi You!
Hump a Screw,
Or the slash will be permanent.
! inspired bybtw, have anyone addressed in the past discussions that Chinjao's name means "green pepper" in Chinese?
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@Monkey:
If you honestly believe that why don't you just ask Oda for his storyboards or even just the scripts or plot outlines, and stop reading the completed project.
This is the equivalent of calling a skeleton a human being.
You really don't give a shit about anything but a quick jolt of "Event" into your blood stream lol.Yes because I've never asked about what something means or why something happened that isn't involved in fighting or action. Good straw man argument though, Lol. A better example is you think a skeleton can't stand on it's own without muscles and tendons. I'm not the one saying that you can have the skeleton stand by itself. I'm saying that something is either relevant or not relevant to the story, nothing stands on it's own… unless you say so.
@Monkey:
I wonder why people are giving you grief? Hmm.
Because people get butthurt if you don't like every chapter and think it's perfect but somehow it's ok to hate on an entire arc.
@Monkey:
Actually neither being literal or metaphorical would that ever be correct about a story.
Ok so finding out that a character lives in a mountain or has blue hair story isn't connected but anything that happens in a storyline/plot has to relate in some way back to the story. If you don't recognize this then I really don't see why you ever read anything besides online articles.
@Monkey:
No, it's not.
Yes it is, so what do you call a story that goes nowhere?
@Monkey:
Oh man, you really don't have a goddamn clue what I was talking about.
Then you must be really shitty at articulating your points. You love to be ambiguous and trollish to get reactions from people which is fine, but it doesn't mean what you say makes any sense.
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Did I hit a nail on the head because you went off in a simple question, did you or did you not read your signature, I never asked you "Hey why do you like Kid so much, If he has only been shown like 5 times in the manga" did I?
You know what you were insinuating from your previous post attacking me. It's not a stand alone post, it's relevant to what you had said earlier. Don't pretend like it was legitimate question you were asking me, it was an attack on me having my signature.
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World building is more than making a huge backdrop in which the story occurs, and this is something that too many authors forget. The world shouldn't be a static place where the main characters are at the center of everything that goes on in the entire world, it's important to give the impression that the world is a far larger place than we'll ever see in the story, and that many other big stories are going on just out of sight. The world should feel like a living, breathing place. The characters we're seeing in the tournament include all sorts of other people having their own adventures, from different parts of the world, with varying levels of importance (and who may turn out to be relevant to the story later… or may not). This is exactly what world building is about - giving the impression that all sorts of other things are going on, and the world isn't just some static background in which the story takes place.
That's a very good point, I guess I was thinking too narrowly about world building. I just didn't like the expanded introductions of some characters, I think more interesting characters like Ideo could of been played on moreso than someone like Dagma or Bluegilly or the others from Block C besides Elizabello. That said I definitely see where you're coming from.
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Yes because I've never asked about what something means or why something happened that isn't involved in fighting or action. Good straw man argument though, Lol. A better example is you think a skeleton can't stand on it's own without muscles and tendons. I'm not the one saying that you can have the skeleton stand by itself. I'm saying that something is either relevant or not relevant to the story, nothing stands on it's own… unless you say so.
lol I never said it was fighting, I was talking about pure linear plot development.
And my whole metaphor is suggesting the plot is the skeleton, and the world plausibility, themes, quirks, style, and spices of the rest of the storytelling process is everything else on it. What the hell story metaphor wouldn't have the plot be the skeleton. Your metaphor makes no sense, or you are saying that the plot is everything which comes back to my point that you have no idea what storytelling actually involves.Because people get butthurt if you don't like every chapter and think it's perfect but somehow it's ok to hate on an entire arc.
Actually that makes lots of sense.
Single chapters are pieces of wholes, and lots of idiots judge them week by week, usually for shallow stupid impatient reasons, and not as the actual picture they're being compiled to create. This is serial storytelling 101.
Whereas judging a whole arc? The finished picture? That actually makes sense.Ok so finding out that a character lives in a mountain or has blue hair story isn't connected but anything that happens in a storyline/plot has to relate in some way back to the story.
Depends entirely on what you mean by "relate back to the story". Judging by everything you've said, you mean literally everything has to serve a plot device type purpose. Which is exactly why I said you know nothing at all about this topic. Never try and tell a story, it will be so bland I don't even know.
Yes it is, so what do you call a story that goes nowhere?
I'm sorry, I think we we're talking about your statement that everything in a story has to get the story to another point. Not about abstract narratives with no plot structure. Maybe you might want to go back to the original topic. Perhaps instead ask me "But Zephos, what other purpose might be served by elements in a story if not plot progress? I do not understand?" That would be good.
Then you must be really shitty at articulating your points. You love to be ambiguous and trollish to get reactions from people which is fine, but it doesn't mean what you say makes any sense.
What I'm saying is really obvious unless you're incredibly close minded and have a child's firm conviction of STORY IS LIKE DIS, NOT LIKE DIS. Your argument time and time again is operating off objectively wrong limitations on what storytelling is for or can do. That isn't my fault.
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Does any one have any theories of how and when Sanji will become the most feared man by the marines? I remember him telling Kuma at thriller Bark that he will become the most feared man by the marines soon enough. I'm pretty sure this will come true.
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Does any one have any theories of how and when Sanji will become the most feared man by the marines? I remember him telling Kuma at thriller Bark that he will become the most feared man by the marines soon enough. I'm pretty sure this will come true.
I'm pretty sure it won't.
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@Monkey:
I'm pretty sure it won't.
Sanji said it would so im pretty sure it will. Luffy will become pirate king, zoro will become greatest swordsman and sanji will become the most feared. I think it was for shadowing and will happen. My theory is he will beat a strong VA to near death and become feared.
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@Monkey:
I'm pretty sure it won't.
I'm pretty sure it will, one way or another
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Sanji said it would so im pretty sure it will. Luffy will become pirate king, zoro will become greatest swordsman and sanji will become the most feared. I think it was for shadowing and will happen. My theory is he will beat a strong VA to near death and become feared.
No Sanji will find All Blue, because the things you're listing are their dreams, as opposed to some random line of shit-talking he did to Kuma.
Also it's called "foreshadowing".
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You know what you were insinuating from your previous post attacking me. It's not a stand alone post, it's relevant to what you had said earlier. Don't pretend like it was legitimate question you were asking me, it was an attack on me having my signature.
LOL, I wasn't attacking you
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@Monkey:
No Sanji will find All Blue, because the things you're listing are their dreams, as opposed to some random line of shit-talking he did to Kuma.
Also it's called "foreshadowing".
Sorry MonkeyMan english is a second language, but now your saying that he wont be feared by marines?
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Sorry MonkeyMan english is a second language, but now your saying that he wont be feared by marines?
He's already feared by Marines since he's both a sizeable bounty and a member of the Strawhat Pirates. I'm sure many a Marine shakes in their boots at the thought of a Supernova crew who blew through Enies Lobby and whose Captain fought in Impel Down and Marineford.
I don't know why you've apparently abandoned "most feared man in the sea" or why you've focused on the marines.
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@Monkey:
He's already feared by Marines since he's both a sizeable bounty and a member of the Strawhat Pirates. I'm sure many a Marine shakes in their boots at the thought of a Supernova crew who blew through Enies Lobby and whose Captain fought in Impel Down and Marineford.
I don't know why you've apparently abandoned "most feared man in the sea" or why you've focused on the marines.
Maybe iv been reading the wrong translation because it said most feared man by marines.
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Maybe iv been reading the wrong translation because it said most feared man by marines.
Why would Sanji threaten Kuma by saying he would be the most feared man specifically to Marines.
Looking at the official english translation he just says something about "The Marines don't take me seriously right now but eventually I'll be causing more trouble than all these (the other strawhats) guys put together."
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@Monkey:
Why would Sanji threaten Kuma by saying he would be the most feared man specifically to Marines.
Looking at the official english translation he just says something about "The Marines don't take me seriously right now but eventually I'll be causing more trouble than all these (the other strawhats) guys put together."
Thanks for the correction.
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The points behind that line are two.
1. Sanji is talking shit to Kuma and trying to save the crew in the same way Zoro is at the time.
2. Sanji has a running gag with him feeling annoyed that he's being underrated by the government compared to Zoro and Luffy.That's all it is.
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Regarding Sanji's line to Kuma, I could ultimately see him being the result of something so outrageous he is considered the most troublesome by some higher ups in the Marines. The first step in that direction seems to be his connection with the G5 soldiers, the bit of "loyalty" they showed Sanji during PH is going somewhere.
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With monkey king change of avatar and signature I really am expecting Dofla to have give Law a good beating or reveal some great backstory
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With monkey king change of avatar and signature I really am expecting Dofla to have give Law a good beating or reveal some great backstory
Who is going to have give what?
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@Monkey:
Who is going to have give what?
Change … for which purpose ! are you fed up from the previous
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